Author Topic: Drop in sales - is it only me?... (Read 10146 times)

SVH · « **Reply #100 on:** February 17, 2022, 06:26 »

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 05:30

Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

Yes congrats, very impressive! How long did it take to get there?

Wilm · « **Reply #101 on:** February 17, 2022, 06:39 »

Quote from: SVH on February 17, 2022, 06:26

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 05:30
Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

Yes congrats, very impressive! How long did it take to get there?

Thank you very much. I started at shutterstock on 09/11/2010.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #102 on:** February 17, 2022, 09:45 »

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 05:30

Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

Congratulations Wilm.

I think the others would also be very grateful if you would remove the dirt in front of the dollar sign.

Wilm · « **Reply #103 on:** February 17, 2022, 10:07 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 17, 2022, 09:45

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 05:30
Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

Congratulations Wilm.
I think the others would also be very grateful if you would remove the dirt in front of the dollar sign.

Thank you, Ralf! Well, I guess the others should be able to approx. guess what is hidden there.

S2D2 · « **Reply #104 on:** February 17, 2022, 10:44 »

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 10:07

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 17, 2022, 09:45
Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 05:30
Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

Congratulations Wilm.
I think the others would also be very grateful if you would remove the dirt in front of the dollar sign.

Thank you, Ralf! Well, I guess the others should be able to approx. guess what is hidden there.

If you told us the average $ per download we could work out the hidden sum 😊

I bet the total was higher for the 1st 50% of the downloads than the 2nd 🤔

Wilm · « **Reply #105 on:** February 17, 2022, 10:48 »

Quote from: DO on February 17, 2022, 10:44

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 10:07
Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 17, 2022, 09:45
Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 05:30
Regardless of the fact that my download volumes have decreased significantly, I have just now a small "anniversary" to celebrate.

Thus, shutterstock accounts for 45% of my total downloads.

Congratulations Wilm.
I think the others would also be very grateful if you would remove the dirt in front of the dollar sign.

Thank you, Ralf! Well, I guess the others should be able to approx. guess what is hidden there.

If you told us the average $ per download we could work out the hidden sum 😊

I bet the total was higher for the 1st 50% of the downloads than the 2nd 🤔

Both is absolutely correct, Debbie!

LouisPhotos · « **Reply #106 on:** February 17, 2022, 10:49 »

oufff huge drop of revenu on my side. sell around 120 photos per day but $$$ is not there. Very frustrated situation. I never see this on SS. For the february i am around 40% less that last years. That huge drop. January $$$ 30% less than last year. Adobe stock sell lot of photo and stable situation.

LouisPhotos · « **Reply #107 on:** February 17, 2022, 11:30 »

The problem is the $ per photo. I dont know what happen on 2022 but the number of $ per photo is very bad . I am level 4 and i sell less photo 35$ 100$. The extended and single have drop this years. 50% less than last year

beanstock · « **Reply #108 on:** February 17, 2022, 14:34 »

My $ per photo is also very bad. Much worse than last year.

I got a .10 On Demand, which I have not seen before, and don't know how that could be calculated off of a single image purchase.

I would understand if they negotiated a "discount" rate, but assumed those would fall under SODs (understand does not equal being happy, I would just get their logic $:-\$ )

Firn · « **Reply #109 on:** February 17, 2022, 15:04 »

Quote from: LouisPhotos on February 17, 2022, 10:49

sell around 120 photos per day but $$$ is not there.

Quote from: LouisPhotos on February 17, 2022, 11:30

I am level 4

One of these numbers can't be right. With an average of 120 sales per day you should have more than double as many sales as are needed to reach level 5.

aphasia · « **Reply #110 on:** February 17, 2022, 15:11 »

My SS is down 65% this year and iStock usually my best earner is down 30% while Adobe has doubled.

Wilm · « **Reply #111 on:** February 17, 2022, 16:29 »

Quote from: Firn on February 17, 2022, 15:04

Quote from: LouisPhotos on February 17, 2022, 10:49
sell around 120 photos per day but $$$ is not there.
Quote from: LouisPhotos on February 17, 2022, 11:30
I am level 4

True!

One of these numbers can't be right. With an average of 120 sales per day you should have more than double as many sales as are needed to reach level 5.

Wilm · « **Reply #112 on:** February 17, 2022, 16:30 »

Quote from: Firn on February 17, 2022, 15:04

Quote from: LouisPhotos on February 17, 2022, 10:49
sell around 120 photos per day but $$$ is not there.
Quote from: LouisPhotos on February 17, 2022, 11:30
I am level 4

One of these numbers can't be right. With an average of 120 sales per day you should have more than double as many sales as are needed to reach level 5.

True!

LouisPhotos · « **Reply #113 on:** February 18, 2022, 11:20 »

Last years i take the level 5 on Octobre. Also the problem with SS is that we dont sell new photo alot as 2 years ago. How can client can buy new original stock if they cant see it.

Firn · « **Reply #114 on:** February 18, 2022, 12:21 »

Quote from: LouisPhotos on February 18, 2022, 11:20

Last years i take the level 5 on Octobre. Also the problem with SS is that we dont sell new photo alot as 2 years ago. How can client can buy new original stock if they cant see it.

If you reached level 5 (2500 downloads ) in October, you have an average of 8-9 sales a day, depending on when in October you reached level 5 (10 months x 30 days = 300 days. 2500 downloads/ 300= 8.3). Not 120.

LouisPhotos · « **Reply #115 on:** February 18, 2022, 13:03 »

probably september i am not sure. 3000 photos per month x 10 = 30 000. 9 x 3000 = 27 000 for level 5

LouisPhotos · « **Reply #116 on:** February 18, 2022, 13:06 »

Quote from: Firn on February 18, 2022, 12:21

Quote from: LouisPhotos on February 18, 2022, 11:20
Last years i take the level 5 on Octobre. Also the problem with SS is that we dont sell new photo alot as 2 years ago. How can client can buy new original stock if they cant see it.

If you reached level 5 (2500 downloads ) in October, you have an average of 8-9 sales a day, depending on when in October you reached level 5 (10 months x 30 days = 300 days. 2500 downloads/ 300= 8.3). Not 120.

Scuse me level 6. I was thinking level 5 was the last. I dont check this exected on the first year month

Bauman · « **Reply #117 on:** February 19, 2022, 04:50 »

Quote from: LouisPhotos on February 17, 2022, 11:30

The problem is the $ per photo. I dont know what happen on 2022 but the number of $ per photo is very bad . I am level 4 and i sell less photo 35$ 100$. The extended and single have drop this years. 50% less than last year

Yes, me too. My RPD dropped to 0.51 Jan and 0.48 Feb ... 2021 was 0.67 and 0.75 ... 50/60 sales day.

Shutterstock pushes subscriptions ... with subscriptions their earnings are higher, because SS only pay the royalties for the photos downloaded and not for the unsold ones.

JamoImages · « **Reply #118 on:** February 19, 2022, 07:23 »

Same here. RPD is as low as $0.27 while downloads are in normal level.

If this is where SS is going then it will bye bye from me

Bauman · « **Reply #119 on:** February 19, 2022, 07:34 »

Quote from: JamoImages on February 19, 2022, 07:23

Same here. RPD is as low as $0.27 while downloads are in normal level.

Ouch, incredible ! 0.27 it's not sustainable ...

I'm also considering exiting SS, but Adobe Stock needs to improve sales a bit more. Especially a few more extended licenses. This February zero extended licenses on AS.

JamoImages · « **Reply #120 on:** February 19, 2022, 08:18 »

Quote from: Bauman on February 19, 2022, 07:34

Quote from: JamoImages on February 19, 2022, 07:23
Same here. RPD is as low as $0.27 while downloads are in normal level.

Ouch, incredible ! 0.27 it's not sustainable ...

I'm also considering exiting SS, but Adobe Stock needs to improve sales a bit more. Especially a few more extended licenses. This February zero extended licenses on AS.

Yes.. it's not sustainable

Fortunately Adobe Stock is very strong for me and is growing pretty fast. AS alone cover the losses I suffer from SS.

I'd like to think the buyers are moving from SS to AS but maybe I'm just being naive

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #121 on:** February 19, 2022, 10:50 »

Quote from: JamoImages on February 19, 2022, 08:18

Quote from: Bauman on February 19, 2022, 07:34
Quote from: JamoImages on February 19, 2022, 07:23
Same here. RPD is as low as $0.27 while downloads are in normal level.

Ouch, incredible ! 0.27 it's not sustainable ...

I'm also considering exiting SS, but Adobe Stock needs to improve sales a bit more. Especially a few more extended licenses. This February zero extended licenses on AS.

Yes.. it's not sustainable

Fortunately Adobe Stock is very strong for me and is growing pretty fast. AS alone cover the losses I suffer from SS.

I'd like to think the buyers are moving from SS to AS but maybe I'm just being naive

I don't know that buyers are moving, but for myself, SSTK number of sales are down and the amount paid is down towards 10¢ while AS is steady or growing and they pay 36¢ or 99¢ subs, plus some higher custom. At minimum, AS is three times more for a sub, and easily 10 times more for many downloads. Not hard to beat SSTK at that.

JaenStock · « **Reply #122 on:** February 19, 2022, 14:01 »

If Adobe created some kind of exclusive collection where they paid us 50% of the download price and better positioning, I wouldn't waste my time with more agencies for certain photos.

everest · « **Reply #123 on:** February 19, 2022, 15:24 »

Adobe is in a golden position now. If they want, they can make a deadly blow to Istock/Getty and SS. There are already top contributorst that don't supply Istock or Getty. The retreat of Arcurs from excl. might be a sign of the times.

If Adobe opens the gates to editorial and creates some premium collections with image exclusivity I many contributors will run away from Istock / SS.

Lets see if this year they see the opportunity and take it.

Quote from: JaenStock on February 19, 2022, 14:01

If Adobe created some kind of exclusive collection where they paid us 50% of the download price and better positioning, I wouldn't waste my time with more agencies for certain photos.

SVH · « **Reply #124 on:** February 19, 2022, 16:20 »

The good thing with AS is that with every normal sale it will outweigh SS by factor 3.3, 6.6 or 9.9. So one sale at AS of 99 cents you will need ten sales at SS to cover it.

The problem is that AS rarely has big sales. It seems they don't do extended licenses or just don't promote it. And then one good EL at SS will make up for all the lousy ten cents sales.

So what is better? If you don't go for both?

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