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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2017, 13:14 »
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i scraped bme, but 85% of my earnings happened in the first 12 days, the other 15% of the earnings took 18 days. absolute car crash, not complaining i made bme, but had the rate of the first 12 days continued then i would probably have doubled my bme. they tweaked the search in the first part of the month which benefited me, and then it was switched off again. probably a test or something. i remember an old thread where people came in happy reporting a spike in earnings and ss came in and said it was a mistake, an algorithm went live that wasnt supposed to go live, so there you go.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 02:11 by Microstockphoto »


« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2017, 18:01 »
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Quiet month allover, had a first ever video sale on motionelements.

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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2017, 01:00 »
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Worst month in 9 years and down with 50%. Its futile to carry on uploading or anything. All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered. I for one have found alternatives to SS but Hey! thats me! others might have totally different experience.

« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2017, 02:02 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

derek

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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2017, 05:14 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

Nope!  all that basic logic flies out the window with SS and the reasons why is just too obvious for contributors thats been with them for a long time and who depends on photography for a living.
If you dont depend on it?  well then its a hobby and frankly not very important one way or another.

« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2017, 06:10 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

Nope!  all that basic logic flies out the window with SS and the reasons why is just too obvious for contributors thats been with them for a long time and who depends on photography for a living.
If you dont depend on it?  well then its a hobby and frankly not very important one way or another.

personali i double compared to june last year and my portfolio compared to march 2016 has doubled. in 2017 i uploaded 800 images so far and they give me 1500 dollar near 2 dollar from every new image uploaded so far in 2017. had i uploaded 5000 who knows. i see correlation.
i have to say that till march 2016 i uploaded very low stuff and mostly editorial, while in the last year iu upload commercial stuff.
personally in the last 2 weeks i sold a lot of on demand and single.

« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2017, 06:15 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

Nope!  all that basic logic flies out the window with SS and the reasons why is just too obvious for contributors thats been with them for a long time and who depends on photography for a living.
If you dont depend on it?  well then its a hobby and frankly not very important one way or another.

personali i double compared to june last year and my portfolio compared to march 2016 has doubled. in 2017 i uploaded 800 images so far and they give me 1500 dollar near 2 dollar from every new image uploaded so far in 2017. had i uploaded 5000 who knows. i see correlation.
i have to say that till march 2016 i uploaded very low stuff and mostly editorial, while in the last year iu upload commercial stuff.
personally in the last 2 weeks i sold a lot of on demand and single.

what surprises me is for example i uploaded a famous landmark from a big touristic destination, a photo that has 100000 similarities...uploaded in dec 2016 is number 2 in popularity right now in search engine and sell practically 3 times a day since january. i have uploaded other image in 2017 that are now near top of search engine and i sold practically every other day...
according to people they were images that was useless upload due to competition...but they managed to reach top search.
contrary uploaded lifestyle and food photography i had great hope they could become a winner and still they not have a single sale.
so it puzzles me cause everybody tell shot people and lifestyle is the key, while landscape and travel is useless...for me is the contrary right now.

« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2017, 06:36 »
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was i found unbelievable is that portfolio like this:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/arinaphabich?page=9&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery

are left free to spam like that...100000 images....i thought russian were spammers but i must say I'm sorry to all russian....
100000 images, poorly made, poor content...hundred of hundreds of repetition....10 years ago this portfolio would have been accepted 1 % of images probably less....imagine if anybody begin acting like this? how many images we reach in 1 years? 100000000000000 zillion?
she bought 5 tortilla shot 450 images...ahhahahahaa.....
tempted to write ss and signal this portfolio.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 06:38 by jonbull »

« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2017, 07:33 »
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Average for me

Bad Company

« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2017, 07:43 »
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was i found unbelievable is that portfolio like this:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/arinaphabich?page=9&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery

are left free to spam like that...100000 images....i thought russian were spammers but i must say I'm sorry to all russian....
100000 images, poorly made, poor content...hundred of hundreds of repetition....10 years ago this portfolio would have been accepted 1 % of images probably less....imagine if anybody begin acting like this? how many images we reach in 1 years? 100000000000000 zillion?
she bought 5 tortilla shot 450 images...ahhahahahaa.....
tempted to write ss and signal this portfolio.

You really shouldn't put other artist portfolio's here especially if you're criticizing them. Unless you're the micro-stock cop here to defend liberty and justice for all  8)


« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2017, 08:32 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

Nope!  all that basic logic flies out the window with SS and the reasons why is just too obvious for contributors thats been with them for a long time and who depends on photography for a living.
If you dont depend on it?  well then its a hobby and frankly not very important one way or another.
That basic logic seems to apply as far as I can see. Uploads are increasing exponentially you are not uploading therefore earnings are likely to fall....wheres the flaw in the logic?

« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2017, 08:43 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2017, 09:35 »
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was i found unbelievable is that portfolio like this:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/arinaphabich?page=9&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery

are left free to spam like that...100000 images....i thought russian were spammers but i must say I'm sorry to all russian....
100000 images, poorly made, poor content...hundred of hundreds of repetition....10 years ago this portfolio would have been accepted 1 % of images probably less....imagine if anybody begin acting like this? how many images we reach in 1 years? 100000000000000 zillion?
she bought 5 tortilla shot 450 images...ahhahahahaa.....
tempted to write ss and signal this portfolio.

I disagree, at least in part. She doesn't have "poor content" and images are not necessarily "poorly made". I'm sure her style can appeal to some buyers.

Speaking about tortillas, her photo is the 4th most popular, on the main page for "tortilla":
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/fresh-yellow-corn-tortillas-on-wood-641095078

.. or the proof that buyers like at least some of her photos.
(are you an envious "tortilla shooter", by any chance?)

On the other hand, I agree that similars are not a good idea... Shots made from slightly different angles, don't do much, except for spreading buyer's "votes" among too many choices, thus preventing best shots to shine. It is her choice to work hard for virtually no gains. As long as it is "legal", you must respect that.
It can be bad for buyers, since they will struggle more to find that "best" shot the want, shot they could have much easier discovered and bought, from a collection based on a decent curation process.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 09:47 by Zero Talent »

angelawaye

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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2017, 10:16 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

I totally agree. I've been doing this for 10 years and June was not good. I wish there was a way to put how many years someone has been doing micro under their name. I think it would be a valuable insight for people reading the forums.

« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2017, 10:38 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

How often do you upload?

« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2017, 10:49 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

Exactly my experience. 50% down.  Over 4,000 assets, mix of video and stills. 

JimP

« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2017, 10:58 »
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Average for me

If you mean average the way I'd say normal for June, same here. Normal no change. I upload new every month. Not many but new.


derek

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« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2017, 12:53 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

Exactly my experience. 50% down.  Over 4,000 assets, mix of video and stills.

Yep! same here close to 6000 files and all commercial files with model releases and everything. Exactly 50% down. If this carries on I will have no choice but to delete my port and stuff them into a macro RF/RM agency where just a couple of sales will make up for it. SS have turned into my third agency as far as earnings it used to be my number one for 8 years.

« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2017, 12:53 »
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Looking at 4 consecutive zero days, not seen that in 7 years. We al know why so new outlets are needed as MS for most contributors is doomed.

« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2017, 12:57 »
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...


what surprises me is for example i uploaded a famous landmark from a big touristic destination, a photo that has 100000 similarities...uploaded in dec 2016 is number 2 in popularity right now in search engine and sell practically 3 times a day since january. i have uploaded other image in 2017 that are now near top of search engine and i sold practically every other day...
according to people they were images that was useless upload due to competition...but they managed to reach top search.
contrary uploaded lifestyle and food photography i had great hope they could become a winner and still they not have a single sale.
so it puzzles me cause everybody tell shot people and lifestyle is the key, while landscape and travel is useless...for me is the contrary right now.

perhaps you are the current beneficiary of some sort of location based preference in the search engine. Enjoy the sales while you get them, because one day that tap might be turned off.

angelawaye

  • Eat, Sleep, Keyword. Repeat

« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2017, 13:25 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

Exactly my experience. 50% down.  Over 4,000 assets, mix of video and stills.

Yep! same here close to 6000 files and all commercial files with model releases and everything. Exactly 50% down. If this carries on I will have no choice but to delete my port and stuff them into a macro RF/RM agency where just a couple of sales will make up for it. SS have turned into my third agency as far as earnings it used to be my number one for 8 years.

From what I understand, once your files have been on Micro you can never submit them to RM agencies even if you delete them from SS - even sister images can't be. Am I wrong?

« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2017, 14:27 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

How often do you upload?
I upload on a pretty regular basis. My portfolio has over 4000 images and 360 videos.

H2O

« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2017, 18:58 »
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It just seems to me that SS limit the sales, if its going well in Europe, they stop the sales in America and vise versa.

Bad Company

« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2017, 19:13 »
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been in the business almost 10 years (almost 10K images in all sites) and my $$$ was up by 15% from this June compared to June last year. Why? Not sure since since I shot the sames stuff each year.

« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2017, 19:21 »
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From what I understand, once your files have been on Micro you can never submit them to RM agencies even if you delete them from SS - even sister images can't be. Am I wrong?

Yes, you're wrong.  You just can't offer the buyer exclusivity.


 

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