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Its been 10 days now since FD made the first post, still no sign of his portfolio being reinstated. I can understand if he can't give us information for legal reasons but couldn't he just let us know that's why there's not been a follow up post? Perhaps he is just too busy doing other things.I really don't think we should speculate too much what the reasons are for shutterstock to take down his portfolio. I just think if they have justification or not, they should still just take down the relevant images and make contact with the contributor before removing all their portfolio. In a bad year for microstock, this is yet another reason to be concerned for contributors.
Waiting for the electricity to come back or FD to come back...
He was talking on the DT forums a couple of days ago so my guess is that he has been advised not to talk publicly about what happpened.
Screw em dude, it's their loss.
Reading your other post with all you have going on with your own site I would guess strongly that had a lot to do with your removal. As I mentioned before, they booted me out for being perceived as a part of Fotolia. I don't think they like any form of competition or potential conflicts of interest. They did me the same way, no notice..just closed the account. Wasn't nearly as dramatic for me though as I only had a handful of images up as a test to see how they did there. Screw em dude, it's their loss.Mat
^^^ It's not about having 'multiple accounts', it's about being perceived to be a member of staff or at least on the payroll of a competing agency (such as being a reviewer for example). IS takes the same view and will close the account of any contributor who they discover working for another agency.It's one reason why starting a 'contributor-owned agency' would be so difficult as everyone joining it risks having all other accounts closed by the various agencies.
Quote from: gostwyck on December 17, 2010, 08:38^^^ It's not about having 'multiple accounts', it's about being perceived to be a member of staff or at least on the payroll of a competing agency (such as being a reviewer for example). IS takes the same view and will close the account of any contributor who they discover working for another agency.It's one reason why starting a 'contributor-owned agency' would be so difficult as everyone joining it risks having all other accounts closed by the various agencies. Well then I guess they have everyone right where they want them.
It isn't competing with the agencies. It's providing free advertising for them!
Not really. Everyone would just have to take a major leap of faith in the new contributor-owned agency and be prepared to lose the other agency(ies). The prospect of making 80% of a sale over less than 20% seems like it would more than make up the losses, no?
FWIW, FD's site is not a competing agency at all. It just shows images and when you click on them it directs you to one of the existing agencies. It isn't competing with the agencies. It's providing free advertising for them!
Quote from: lisafx on December 17, 2010, 18:39FWIW, FD's site is not a competing agency at all. It just shows images and when you click on them it directs you to one of the existing agencies. It isn't competing with the agencies. It's providing free advertising for them! I'd agree with that __ I was just answering jbarber's point. FD states specifically on his site that he only sells images via the linked agencies.
The rumors do raise a good question: is it safe to open your own site to actually sell your own images, or do you risk getting kicked out of SS and the others? Clearly this isn't the case with FD. But have there been real cases of this happening? I am exploring setting up a site to sell my own images, but the risk of getting kicked out of the agencies for doing this is giving me serious pause.
Quote from: stockmarketer on December 18, 2010, 07:37The rumors do raise a good question: is it safe to open your own site to actually sell your own images, or do you risk getting kicked out of SS and the others? Clearly this isn't the case with FD. But have there been real cases of this happening? I am exploring setting up a site to sell my own images, but the risk of getting kicked out of the agencies for doing this is giving me serious pause.No, there isn't any risk of getting kicked out because you sell your images from your own site. Tons of photographers do it already. The risk comes when you start inviting others to sell from one site...that's like an agency.
Quote from: cclapper on December 18, 2010, 07:52Quote from: stockmarketer on December 18, 2010, 07:37The rumors do raise a good question: is it safe to open your own site to actually sell your own images, or do you risk getting kicked out of SS and the others? Clearly this isn't the case with FD. But have there been real cases of this happening? I am exploring setting up a site to sell my own images, but the risk of getting kicked out of the agencies for doing this is giving me serious pause.No, there isn't any risk of getting kicked out because you sell your images from your own site. Tons of photographers do it already. The risk comes when you start inviting others to sell from one site...that's like an agency. So if this is true, I guess it would be important to not make it look like an agency. My ideas for the site would probably give the buyer the same type of experience as an agency, with some of the same bells and whistles. It would be a professional looking site to give the buyer confidence. But if I go too far with this approach the agencies could think I'm setting up a competing site and close my accounts on their sites. Anyone else have experience with this? Heard of anyone who ran into problems doing something like this?
OMG! Only just saw this thread. Sorry to hear this, FD!Why terminating his account should have anything to do with any opinions FD has voiced over here on topics that have nothing to do with what he is being accused of, is beyond me. I hope he'll be able to sort it all out.What about independants that are inspectors, say at Fotolia? Aren't they allowed to submit to SS? And is that stated somewhere in the SS contract?