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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: vladimir on October 24, 2017, 03:52

Title: keeps getting rejected
Post by: vladimir on October 24, 2017, 03:52
I dont understand why this image gets rejected for the second time. I have removed all the logos an even serial numbers from the cameras and lenses and they still rejected this photo and others like this one from the same batch. Some other agencies like istock and Adobe Stock accepted the files with no problem after logo retouching. Maybe there is someone who also made similar photos that can give me any advice ?
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: photorobot on October 24, 2017, 04:16
What does inspector write as the reason for rejection? I noticed that some of them doesn't like 'recognizable' design even if there isn't any logo.
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: vladimir on October 24, 2017, 04:17
Intellectual Property -- Image potentially infringes on another person's intellectual property rights (e.g., image contains artwork, writing, sheet music, or objects protected by copyright).
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: Pauws99 on October 24, 2017, 04:27
What does inspector write as the reason for rejection? I noticed that some of them doesn't like 'recognizable' design even if there isn't any logo.
I reckon they think that camera is a identifiable brand - grey area
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on October 24, 2017, 05:29
They don't want to take the risk with the cameras and all those parts. Accept it and move on would be my advice.
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: photorobot on October 24, 2017, 05:56
May be another composition with cropped TLR camera and all other items will work.
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: Desintegrator on October 24, 2017, 06:22
They don't accept cameras for many many years now.
Only as illustrative editorial. Most of the time they even reject photos where the camera is not the main subject alone. Like people taking photos.

I remember that moment when they suddenly stopped accepting cameras as commercial RF. But they didn't go for deleting some previously accepted images like they had done with cars
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: vladimir on October 24, 2017, 12:54
Its so frustrating because all agencyes AS, IS, Alamy, pond5, storyblocks accepted this items....
Just another question: If I am selling comercial on other sites is it ok to sell editorial on SS ?
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: Brightontl on October 24, 2017, 13:49
You can try to propose it as editorial to SS, it might get accepted.
As other have said the design of that camera is very well known, so some reviewers don't want to take chances
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: Desintegrator on October 24, 2017, 14:32
Its so frustrating because all agencyes AS, IS, Alamy, pond5, storyblocks accepted this items....
Just another question: If I am selling comercial on other sites is it ok to sell editorial on SS ?

Keep in mind that if you submit it as editorial then no retouching like removing labels or any element should be done. And with images like this you must include the keyword "illustrative editorial"

And yes, not accepting cameras as commercial seems to be a Shutterstock thing only
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on October 24, 2017, 15:04
It;s not just the rollei that is identifiable, the Zeiss Jena lens with the Exacta mount is even more obvious.
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: vladimir on October 24, 2017, 15:27
It;s not just the rollei that is identifiable, the Zeiss Jena lens with the Exacta mount is even more obvious.

The twin lens camera is a Seagull, and the other two are an Exacta vx500 and a Kodac Retina with a folding lens.
I guess I will submit as editorial ( I allready got the third rejection and I am not going to insist anymore )
I am a little frustrated about this. good thing I only made just 3 concepts to test the waters...
Thank you all for explaining and helping
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on October 24, 2017, 15:46
It;s not just the rollei that is identifiable, the Zeiss Jena lens with the Exacta mount is even more obvious.

The twin lens camera is a Seagull, and the other two are an Exacta vx500 and a Kodac Retina with a folding lens.
I guess I will submit as editorial ( I allready got the third rejection and I am not going to insist anymore )
I am a little frustrated about this. good thing I only made just 3 concepts to test the waters...
Thank you all for explaining and helping

Haha! I skewered myself with that one, didn't I? But the Seagull might be the main problem, it was stil in production in China last time I looked (a few years ago now).
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: vladimir on October 25, 2017, 01:08
one more thing I forgot to mention is that about a month ago I uploaded 3 videos of the same camera and all have been approved for comercial use without any logo removed. So they accept videos but not photos of the same subject
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: dragonblade on October 25, 2017, 01:35
Ah TLRs.....it's been years since I used my Yashica D. I really like the waist level viewfinders on TLRs - such big screens and there's nothing like viewing directly through glass. The EVFs on my M4/3 cameras do not give the same pleasurable experience.
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: Video-StockOrg on October 25, 2017, 02:17
SS is being so double standard at times... we can't get this video clip through either as commercial or editorial.
(http://video-stock.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Train-station2.jpg)
Title: Re: keeps getting rejected
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on October 25, 2017, 03:31
Ah TLRs.....it's been years since I used my Yashica D. I really like the waist level viewfinders on TLRs - such big screens and there's nothing like viewing directly through glass. The EVFs on my M4/3 cameras do not give the same pleasurable experience.
Yup, they really are a joy to use. I've got a Mamiya C33 and a Mamiya C220. The Sekor lenses are great. I know an old-timer who started out with a  Mamiya TLR and saved up to get a Hasselblad. His wife reluctantly agreed to the costly upgrade and he never dared tell her that he found the Sekor lenses were better then the Zeiss lenses on the 'blad, Mamiyas are light, too, with long lenses because the extension is in the bellows rather than in a huge metal tube.