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Shutterstock is an embarassment

Started by stockman11, June 23, 2023, 22:26

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stocker2011

I guess the worst is still yet to come, hold onto your hats.

Lizard

In bad times It's always nice to take a look at their stock price, especially the jump in 2021 at our expense and then...that beautiful slider  ;D

Mimi the Cat

Quote from: stoker2014 on November 20, 2024, 08:16
It is unclear why the authors' income has decreased. It seems that buyers are leaving Shutterstock, but why.

My subscription sales started disappearing back in July this month next to nothing.

Single and others going for 10 to 15 cents.

SS are a ghost of what they used to be.



dbvirago

Quote from: Mimi the Cat on November 20, 2024, 16:05
Quote from: stoker2014 on November 20, 2024, 08:16
It is unclear why the authors' income has decreased. It seems that buyers are leaving Shutterstock, but why.

My subscription sales started disappearing back in July this month next to nothing.

Single and others going for 10 to 15 cents.

SS are a ghost of what they used to be.

Went from 75% of my stock income to 15%, then they decided to reject everything. I think AI is running management now.

stocker2011

I have to rant again,

November is shaping up to be one of my worst ever at SS.

All the algorithm wants to do is sell just one of my videos, it's bizarre.

Adobe frequently sells both my new and old vids, while recognizing the better ones which sell even more.

The weighting at SS is definitely off. All it needs is a small adjustment and it could make such a difference, so frustrating.

What's the point in uploading more content there?

gnirtS

Quote from: Mimi the Cat on November 20, 2024, 16:05
Quote from: stoker2014 on November 20, 2024, 08:16
It is unclear why the authors' income has decreased. It seems that buyers are leaving Shutterstock, but why.

My subscription sales started disappearing back in July this month next to nothing.

Single and others going for 10 to 15 cents.

SS are a ghost of what they used to be.

My port has moved from about 85% sub sales to 75% "single" sales of a similar value.

From that i guess they have fewer subscription buyers than before.

zeljkok

Quote from: gnirtS on November 26, 2024, 14:20

My port has moved from about 85% sub sales to 75% "single" sales of a similar value.

From that i guess they have fewer subscription buyers than before.

Mine as well, even more than 75%.  Who knows what they did with their licensing model.  At the end it doesn't really matter,  end $ is similar which is the only thing that really matters to us.


Jaggy

Quote from: stocker2011 on November 26, 2024, 13:39
I have to rant again,

November is shaping up to be one of my worst ever at SS.

All the algorithm wants to do is sell just one of my videos, it's bizarre.

Adobe frequently sells both my new and old vids, while recognizing the better ones which sell even more.

The weighting at SS is definitely off. All it needs is a small adjustment and it could make such a difference, so frustrating.

What's the point in uploading more content there?

Historically, November is a slow month for me at SS. However, compared to November 2023, sales for this November are up by 47% and revenue is up by 40% and still a few days to go.

TonyD

#408
Hasn't been worth uploading to SS for ages now because new photos just aren't selling, I just get repeat DLs for the same old photos often for 10c but not all the time. adobe on the other hand has improved certainly this year since I could upload brand editorial. I got more money some months on AS than SS despite having less than half the number of images on there. Same I cannot earn more at this kind of thing because I cannot get a normal day job due to my eyesight problem. They even ignore my education I had in the past.

DaLiu

Quote from: TonyD on December 25, 2024, 00:35
Hasn't been worth uploading to SS for ages now because new photos just aren't selling,

You can speak for yourself, the new photos are selling very good if you produce the right quality, my downloads doubled this year compared with last year on SS and the new material is selling very well for me.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: DaLiu on December 25, 2024, 15:56
Quote from: TonyD on December 25, 2024, 00:35
Hasn't been worth uploading to SS for ages now because new photos just aren't selling,

You can speak for yourself, the new photos are selling very good if you produce the right quality, my downloads doubled this year compared with last year on SS and the new material is selling very well for me.

I find some of each. New photos that catch on, do just as well as the old.

Also the easy sales for new photos, aren't what they used to be. But that's because instead of being one new photo in thousands, for that day, I'd be one new in hundreds of thousands. Same thing for competition. When the agencies had 50 million images, we could sell more. Now they have 500 Million. Logically, nothing will sell as many or as much.

But you're right, something new, top quality, will eventually sell.
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zeljkok

I don't think there is special distinction between "new" and "old" photos on SS.  It's demand and downloads.  When a "new" photo catches up, it gets higher and higher.  I uploaded this shot fairly recently and for some reason really took off on SS,  multiple downloads almost daily - while on others, incl. Adobe, barely gets a sniff


gnirtS

The last few months new stuff appears to be selling far more than it was prior to that for a long time so i suspect something changed.
Ive had a few images take off including one that now seems to be a daily seller (for no clear reason that i can see, its average at best).  I havent seen that for a new image for several years.

TonyD

RSM Subscription   Dec.01, 2024   -   Subscription Plan   $0.005   $0 (0%)   $0.005

Does anyone know how much this is on Depositphotos?

zeljkok

Quote from: gnirtS on December 26, 2024, 01:49
The last few months new stuff appears to be selling far more than it was prior to that for a long time so i suspect something changed.
Ive had a few images take off including one that now seems to be a daily seller (for no clear reason that i can see, its average at best).  I havent seen that for a new image for several years.

This largely matches my experience on SS.   Dec '24 is already more than double than Dec '23,  most months as well.  Basically back to "pre 10 cents" level.  Still trailing Adobe though

gnirtS

Im way down on Dec 2023 but that was because i had several highly unusual $900 sales.  Take those off and on average yes its better.

(But still 50% or so what it was in 2022 to 2017).

stocker2011

Tap on Tap off.

2025 appears to be following the same trend as 2024, tap turns on for the 1st week then they turn it off again for the rest of the month.

Every single month it's the same pattern for me.





yuriy

shutterstock sales have been pathetic lately, are others seeing the same thing?  adobe is currently 3x for me in feb, same thing in jan.

stocker2011

For my CGI video port it's just a downward spiral at SS, breaking new records every month.

Adobe Stock seems to be maintaining but not as good as it used to be. istock is the only one that has seen an improvement since late last year.

DaLiu

I have a mix portfolio with images and videos but this month I see a big downfall in video sales, volum of sales for images is ok for this month but RPD is lower than expected.

Bauman

Unfortunately I agree with DaLiu and Stocker2011.

I don't have video, but my images on SS are hitting their lowest point as RPD. This February only $0.39. In 2024 it was $0.75.

The number of sales on the other hand is always good. It seems that the high-priced sales have disappeared. And this is a big problem for full-time people like me.

Also because Adobe is weak and does not recover what I lose on SS. Even on Adobe the RPD is down.

The total RPD of February after 12 days is $0.59. The lowest month in over 15 years of stock.

cruiser

Same here - I have the feeling that we are experiencing the melt down of the whole microstock industry.
The fact that Shutterstock is now merging with iStock only confirms my impression....

Brasilnut

Quote from: cruiser on February 13, 2025, 11:04
Same here - I have the feeling that we are experiencing the melt down of the whole microstock industry.
The fact that Shutterstock is now merging with iStock only confirms my impression....

For me, both volumes and average prices are at 10-year lows. But then again I'm not uploading much new stuff to micros so that may be a factor.

Bauman

My February RPD improved today.

From 0.39 it increased to 0.40!  8)

Jaggy

For me, volume on Shutterstock is pretty good and well ahead of this point in 2024. RPD, however, is poor so far and well behind 2024. So plenty of low value sales and I need a few higher value ones to pull the RPD up. But early days still.