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Rinderart

« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2015, 12:05 »
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"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."

+1000

they have been Farming those countries for a few years.


« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2015, 12:25 »
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January on shutterstock, for my small portfolio is the best month ever

« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2015, 12:50 »
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December and January were both slower than usual for me. A stream of subscription sales with almost no SODs. I was starting to feel crabby about SS.

However, this morning produced my first EL since last summer the longest I've ever gone without one. Since 2011, this Black-tailed Jackrabbit image (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104082047/stock-photo-black-tailed-jackrabbit-at-dawn-at-sand-hollow-state-park-in-utah.html?src=&ws=1) has been a steady, reliable sub-seller for me. Several dozen subs per year, usually in the US. But this is the first bigger-than-a-sub sale it's ever had and that sale came from England, no less. Somebody there is putting out a book on North American rodents???

So anyway, right now, I'm happy with SS. All of a sudden, with a single nice sale, things are looking up. It's a good reminder (as if we needed one) of how unpredictable this business is.

« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2015, 13:12 »
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"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."

+1000

they have been Farming those countries for a few years.

I am from the poorer part of Europe and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2015, 02:31 by soundworks »

« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2015, 16:00 »
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"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."

+1000

they have been Farming those countries for a few years.

Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.

yes, so right u r. that is why in those countries where it is said to be "cheap to retire" there is a wide rich-poor disparity where the guy who can afford a DSLR is driving a Citroen while right outside his apartment which is all fenced up with 10 ft iron railings are street people rushing for carton boxes each night for their bed.  the 3rd world is not poor; only the elites with connections are rich while the majority scrape for a day's meal.

Rinderart

« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2015, 16:32 »
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like us......LOL

« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2015, 16:41 »
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like us......LOL
Yeah, I was thinking that too, given today's rampant economic inequality, even in "first world" nations.

« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2015, 16:45 »
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"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."

+1000

they have been Farming those countries for a few years.

Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.

I live in Canada, but was born in one of those "poorer countries". One of the cultural shocks I had to overcome is how much housing actually costs here. Food and clothing or even a car compared to your rent or mortgage is nothing. Most of your income is spent on having a roof above your head. So, count yourself lucky still - you don't have to work your behind off just to avoid sleeping under the bridge.

« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2015, 16:52 »
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"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."

+1000

they have been Farming those countries for a few years.

Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.

I live in Canada, but was born in one of those "poorer countries". One of the cultural shocks I had to overcome is how much housing actually costs here. Food and clothing or even a car compared to your rent or mortgage is nothing. Most of your income is spent on having a roof above your head. So, count yourself lucky still - you don't have to work your behind off just to avoid sleeping under the bridge.

My comment was only intended to illustrate the fact that in some parts of the world, $1000 for example, is a substantial monthly income, whereas in other places, it won't even cover the rent.

« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2015, 16:52 »
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there is also the rich apparent (no, not rich parent, although it applies too) in first world countries esp NAm where money grows on trees (ie bank dispenser machines and credit card) where many have maxed-out credit cards keeping up with the joneses . so much so that people in the 3rd world think you are loaded because you live in a nice house, drive a sports car, travel to tropical countries for winter,etc
not realising that 90% of it is borrowed money.
OTOH, in the poorer countries, the hut and the land with fruit trees are all bought with cash... no incidence of Prada to Nada in their case. so really who is richer?
as the Latinos highly regard the Gringos as (the "white" foreigners with lots of money); if only they knew that many are really bankrupt  8)
« Last Edit: January 27, 2015, 16:55 by etudiante_rapide »

« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2015, 18:33 »
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You are good!

I have 1600 images and 20-30 dls per day!

Photography or vectors? You are good too dude


died from overdrawn

Photos


But every month when I reach my average income, my sales have dropped on several per day, it is usual in last week like this...
« Last Edit: January 27, 2015, 18:36 by borg »

« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2015, 18:41 »
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"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."

+1000

they have been Farming those countries for a few years.


Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.


Yep!
100$ In Balkans countries worth like 50$ in US! Proved!
http://online.konzum.hr/#!/offers?show=all&sort_field=name&sort=nameAsc&page=1&per_page=24
1$=6,6 kn (Croatian Kuna)

« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2015, 02:25 »
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Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.


Go to New York, take a beer, cigarettes, go to restaurant and then after maybe go to disco.
Than come back here and look your post

« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2015, 02:30 »
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"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."

+1000

they have been Farming those countries for a few years.


Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.


Yep!
100$ In Balkans countries worth like 50$ in US! Proved!
http://online.konzum.hr/#!/offers?show=all&sort_field=name&sort=nameAsc&page=1&per_page=24
1$=6,6 kn (Croatian Kuna)



:) :) ... regarding ''3rd world countries'' or ''cheap countries'' how about this (in my case) : House mortgage + all utilities/month 350  euros ( around $420)  ;) only SS in a disastrous month produce more than that, and I'm talking about an European Union Country that I believe is not a 3rd world country  ;) ..... what i trying to say is that in some countries in this world prices are exaggerated.

Ok... back on topic.....
« Last Edit: January 28, 2015, 02:40 by nicku »

« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2015, 02:39 »
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... how about this (in my case) : House mortgage + all utilities/month 350  euros ( around $420)  ;) only SS in as disastrous month produce more than that, and I'm talking about an European Union Country that i believe is not a 3rd world country  ;) ...

And what country/city would that be?

« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2015, 03:28 »
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Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.



Go to New York, take a beer, cigarettes, go to restaurant and then after maybe go to disco.
Than come back here and look your post


+10

You would need around 15,510.52kn (2,286.81$) in Zagreb (Croatia) to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 6,800.00$ in New York, NY (assuming you rent in both cities).

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Croatia&city1=New+York%2C+NY&city2=Zagreb

« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2015, 03:35 »
+4
"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."

+1000

they have been Farming those countries for a few years.


Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.


I live in Canada, but was born in one of those "poorer countries". One of the cultural shocks I had to overcome is how much housing actually costs here. Food and clothing or even a car compared to your rent or mortgage is nothing. Most of your income is spent on having a roof above your head. So, count yourself lucky still - you don't have to work your behind off just to avoid sleeping under the bridge.


My comment was only intended to illustrate the fact that in some parts of the world, $1000 for example, is a substantial monthly income, whereas in other places, it won't even cover the rent.

+10

Average Monthly Disposable Salary (After Tax)
London 3,225.03 $   Buenos Aires 1,264.91 $
   
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=Argentina&city2=Buenos+Aires&displayCurrency=USD



« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2015, 04:38 »
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by the way we are goind waaay off topic :) SS is doing baad also for me this week :(

Dook

« Reply #69 on: January 28, 2015, 04:49 »
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Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.



Go to New York, take a beer, cigarettes, go to restaurant and then after maybe go to disco.
Than come back here and look your post

Well, you don't have to go to restaurant, take a beer and smoke. One of the reasons it looks like we, in poor countries,  need less money is we are not used to commodities the way you are. For example, here at Balkans,  during post war years, it was a science fiction to go to restaurant, travel for vacations, have a car, have nice clothes, buy anything except food, basic clothes etc.
Luckily, that changed. I know many wealthy people now that have made their fortune thanks to internet. Web designers, software experts, musicians, photographers, videographers, translators to name a few.

"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."
So if you have to blame someone for your microstock failure blame this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
« Last Edit: January 28, 2015, 05:00 by Dook »

« Reply #70 on: January 28, 2015, 05:01 »
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With all of my income from stock I almost succeed in pay my car rate (I bought a second hand skoda octavia made in 2004).
But I do this kind of work from passion, and, I also believe that when you do just for the money, you are wrong!

« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2015, 05:32 »
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With all of my income from stock I almost succeed in pay my car rate (I bought a second hand skoda octavia made in 2004).
But I do this kind of work from passion, and, I also believe that when you do just for the money, you are wrong!

Well, I believe that who ever is doing microstock not just for the money is out of their minds...  ;D

I would never ever do microstock as hobby. There are much more rewarding types of photography if you are just following your passion.

« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2015, 06:01 »
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Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.


Go to New York, take a beer, cigarettes, go to restaurant and then after maybe go to disco.
Than come back here and look your post

Go to one of discos on Balkan, see some girls there and then come back and look your post!  :D

« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2015, 06:07 »
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Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.



Go to New York, take a beer, cigarettes, go to restaurant and then after maybe go to disco.
Than come back here and look your post


+10

You would need around 15,510.52kn (2,286.81$) in Zagreb (Croatia) to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 6,800.00$ in New York, NY (assuming you rent in both cities).

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Croatia&city1=New+York%2C+NY&city2=Zagreb


Come on!
Zagreb is not in Croatia as Manhattan is in New York (likely situation is different in New Jersey).
Why you don't compare with Dubrovnik in Croatia, but with disco, beer and restaurants as someone mention that here!?
Coffee in Dubrovnik is $5

BTW Croatia is a part of EU...
« Last Edit: January 28, 2015, 06:13 by borg »

« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2015, 06:37 »
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This thread is about as useful as the Doom and Gloom thread over at SS....all problems and no solutions. Then again, most of us know it is unwise to offer solutions in business until you've milked the opportunity dry yourself.


 

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