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Shutterstock starts database cleanup?!

Started by leaf, November 02, 2009, 20:16

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leaf

I just got a message that Shutterstock has taken a few of my images out of their collection.  

This is what the email says.

QuoteWe have removed the following images that you uploaded.
An old car sitting on the prairie forgotten and overgrown with bushes.
(795088) deleted because: Quality Control - Deleted per Legal, do not resubmit An old car sitting on the prairie forgotten and overgrown with bushes.
(795100) deleted because: Quality Control - Deleted per Legal, do not resubmit An old car sitting on the prairie forgotten and overgrown with bushes.
(795220) deleted because: Quality Control - Deleted per Legal, do not resubmit Regards, ShutterStock Support

It is a little cryptic (perhaps due to the unfortunate formatting) - with no real way of know what the images were other than their description.  When I look at the image numbers on Shutterstock, the image is blank.

It looks however like they were deleted due to legal concerns.  Fair enough - perhaps it has something to do with their recent guaranteeing of images.

graficallyminded

I had 25 of mine yanked.  Ah well, onwards and upwards right

sam100

Quote from: leaf on November 02, 2009, 20:16
I just got a message that Shutterstock has taken a few of my images out of their collection.  

This is what the email says.

QuoteWe have removed the following images that you uploaded.
An old car sitting on the prairie forgotten and overgrown with bushes.
(795088) deleted because: Quality Control - Deleted per Legal, do not resubmit An old car sitting on the prairie forgotten and overgrown with bushes.
(795100) deleted because: Quality Control - Deleted per Legal, do not resubmit An old car sitting on the prairie forgotten and overgrown with bushes.
(795220) deleted because: Quality Control - Deleted per Legal, do not resubmit Regards, ShutterStock Support

It is a little cryptic (perhaps due to the unfortunate formatting) - with no real way of know what the images were other than their description.  When I look at the image numbers on Shutterstock, the image is blank.

It looks however like they were deleted due to legal concerns.  Fair enough - perhaps it has something to do with their recent guaranteeing of images.


Had several too, all cars, motorcycles (even illustrations) ... maybe stricter policies on those items.

Patrick H.

ibogdan

I also have a motorcycle image deleted.

mantonino

i had one motorcycle deleted as well.

dbvirago

one scooter for me. Generic. No logo.  A pretty good seller.

ComfortEagle2095

Are the deleted files "editorial"?  I have a few images featuring cars from a few years back but they're all marked editorial.  So far they haven't been deleted.

leaf

Quote from: ComfortEagle2095 on November 03, 2009, 00:18
Are the deleted files "editorial"?  I have a few images featuring cars from a few years back but they're all marked editorial.  So far they haven't been deleted.

they probably wont' be then.  Trademark issues are only for non-editorial images.

traveler1116

Isn't this a good thing?  Even if a few great sellers go we should be better protected from a lawsuit.

leaf

Quote from: traveler1116 on November 03, 2009, 11:17
Isn't this a good thing?  Even if a few great sellers go we should be better protected from a lawsuit.

yeah, I think so

leaf

they are going to remove every image of a car in their database it seems.  They are really going to town!

These two images were even removed for legal reasons.


gbalex

Long over due... makes you wonder what is going on behind the scenes.

FD

#12
I had two deleted with cars with, full sideview but no logos. They are amongst good sellers at other sites, so I guess it's a matter of time before iStock kicks them out too.
That's a consequence of the latest cry in microstock about the "guarantee". I wonder when Dreamstime will offer the "guarantee".
Money won't make you happy.

dbvirago


RacePhoto

#14
Quote from: dbvirago on November 04, 2009, 01:21
Lawyers just whacked my muscle car.


1970's AMC Javelin?

I can't find it and I'm not sure if it was IS or SS or somewhere else, but they do say, if the subject of the photo is the car, or it's more than 1/3rd of the image, it will get rejected. I think it was one of those newsletters last year from SS. Not important, but we have been advised of this in the past. When they remove my photo that includes a parking lot for cars/copyright, then I'll be ready to scream unfair.  ;D

Can't understand leaf's photos being pulled at all.

Funny thing I shot about 14,000 car photos this year and not one ever got uploaded to Micro.


litifeta

few of mine have been yanked. I figure it is because of the insurance guarantee they are now giving subscribers.

lephotography

I had 5 images yanked... they were models on motorcycles. Bummer too.. They were great sellers.

qwerty

Quote from: litifeta on November 04, 2009, 05:22
few of mine have been yanked. I figure it is because of the insurance guarantee they are now giving subscribers.

That seems like a logical reason why they're doing a cleanup
I won't comment on whether removal of individual files is suitable

GeoPappas

Is it possible that the images that have been removed had keywords that were considered trademarks or copyrights?

For example, if you search on the keyword "BMW", there are 5 results.  If you search on "Volvo", there are 77 results.  Etc.

dzain

Quote from: GeoPappas on November 04, 2009, 10:11
Is it possible that the images that have been removed had keywords that were considered trademarks or copyrights?

For example, if you search on the keyword "BMW", there are 5 results.  If you search on "Volvo", there are 77 results.  Etc.
No, I never use brandnames as keywords and they removed some vintage brandless scooter and 3 vintage fire engine trucks without logo/brand which took me several hours to isolate.

Why doesn't that company have the decency to make those photo's editorials instead of just throwing them away as garbage?

And why are they so inpolite not informing us properly about this action in a newsletter or on the forums?

They have the nurve to brag about that stupid 'image garantee' without realising (or without giving a crap) about what that means to their contributors!

I'm angry!!!!

ErickN

#20
Not only cars it seems. I had a few of mine removed in october from a series of Manhattan cityscapes :


And yes, all potential trademarks, ad signs or whatever had been edited out from the picture. Maybe it's because I tell in the caption that it has been shot from the top of the Rockefeller Center ? Is the RFC considered a trademark or copyrighted ?

[EDIT] And for each removed image, I had the same cryptic message : "deleted because: Quality Control: Deleted per Legal -- Do Not Resubmit"

eppic

So far I havent had any of my images pulled.  I have a couple of car and some semi truck photos and I believe one or two with fire engines.  Maybe the writing's on the wall for those too.

gostwyck

Quote from: ErickN on November 04, 2009, 13:06
Not only cars it seems. I had a few of mine removed in october from a series of Manhattan cityscapes :

And yes, all potential trademarks, ad signs or whatever had been edited out from the picture. Maybe it's because I tell in the caption that it has been shot from the top of the Rockefeller Center ? Is the RFC considered a trademark or copyrighted ?


It might be because of the location from where you took the shot i.e. from private property.

disorderly

Quote from: gostwyck on November 04, 2009, 13:39
Quote from: ErickN on November 04, 2009, 13:06
Not only cars it seems. I had a few of mine removed in october from a series of Manhattan cityscapes :

And yes, all potential trademarks, ad signs or whatever had been edited out from the picture. Maybe it's because I tell in the caption that it has been shot from the top of the Rockefeller Center ? Is the RFC considered a trademark or copyrighted ?


It might be because of the location from where you took the shot i.e. from private property.

And the agreement on the ticket precludes use of photos taken there from being used commercially.  Of six images SS removed from my port ages ago, five were taken from Rockefeller Center.  The other was of various coins, and violated UK copyright on images of their queen.

leaf

Quote from: eppic on November 04, 2009, 13:26
So far I havent had any of my images pulled.  I have a couple of car and some semi truck photos and I believe one or two with fire engines.  Maybe the writing's on the wall for those too.

yeah, i'm guessing it's just a matter of time for those.  I had a firetruck isolation removed today.  This must really suck for them too.  I am sure there are lots of sales shutterstock is going to loose because of this.