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Title: Slow November
Post by: fritz on November 11, 2012, 18:09
This month is super slow($$$) on SS. Is it only me or........
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: tab62 on November 11, 2012, 18:23
same here to include a wipe out on Dreamstime...
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fritz on November 11, 2012, 18:27
Yea, but DT is small fish compare to SS and IS. For me!
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on November 11, 2012, 23:49
Should be a BME or at least close to it for me on SS.  Almost a BME so far for CanStock and 123 is doing great as well.  DT solid, others hanging in there.  Hope it continues like this.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: RacePhoto on November 13, 2012, 11:30
Ahead of Aug., Sept., or Oct. (I didn't go back past that) by about 30% right now. So if things fall off the tracks for Thanksgiving, I'm happy to already have sales in the bank. Funny part is my sales are pretty much within the same $5 range, every month now, excluding ELs. So either November is going to be much better or it's going to be disappointingly quiet soon? ???
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: JPSDK on November 13, 2012, 15:36
DT is dead.
FOT and SS average
Is is up.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: nicku on November 13, 2012, 15:58

DT - slow month
FT - very slow month
DP - average (small earner)
SS - slow at the beginning of nov. but the last two days were fantastic with consistant EL's and big SOD's.
123RF - above average until now.

....biggest disappointment is FT  this month( my 2nd earner ).
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: gostwyck on November 13, 2012, 16:03

SS - slow at the beginning of nov. but the last two days were fantastic with consistant EL's and big SOD's.....biggest disappointment is FT  this month( my 2nd earner ).

Same here __ sales at SS have been going ballistic for the last couple of days, particularly those chunky SOD's. I think I am currently having my BDE there and there's still quite a few hours to go too!
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 13, 2012, 18:16

SS - slow at the beginning of nov. but the last two days were fantastic with consistant EL's and big SOD's.....biggest disappointment is FT  this month( my 2nd earner ).

Same here __ sales at SS have been going ballistic for the last couple of days, particularly those chunky SOD's. I think I am currently having my BDE there and there's still quite a few hours to go too!
I'm also having one of my BDsE there today thanks to a whole load of SODs. I was looking out to see if anybody else had a lot of them today as it is so unusual.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: lisafx on November 14, 2012, 12:16

I'm also having one of my BDsE there today thanks to a whole load of SODs. I was looking out to see if anybody else had a lot of them today as it is so unusual.

Exactly the same here.  BDE at SS by a wide margin yesterday.  Nearly double my previous.  Tons of OD sales.  Woo Hoo!
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 14, 2012, 15:10
SS on tract with a good last month total. 123, FT, BS, CS, DP and rest all lagging badly behind last month's.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: pancaketom on November 14, 2012, 15:46

I'm also having one of my BDsE there today thanks to a whole load of SODs. I was looking out to see if anybody else had a lot of them today as it is so unusual.

Exactly the same here.  BDE at SS by a wide margin yesterday.  Nearly double my previous.  Tons of OD sales.  Woo Hoo!

Yesterday was maybe my #2 day at SS w/ a mix of all sorts of sales - very nice. In general the month has been ok, and above average if you include yesterday.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: gostwyck on November 14, 2012, 21:39

I'm also having one of my BDsE there today thanks to a whole load of SODs. I was looking out to see if anybody else had a lot of them today as it is so unusual.

Exactly the same here.  BDE at SS by a wide margin yesterday.  Nearly double my previous.  Tons of OD sales.  Woo Hoo!

It goes on. Just when you think it can't get any better ... it does. Having had my BDE yesterday, in eight years at SS, I've just beaten it again today! A couple of mega-SOD's have landed out of the blue and broken all records. It took a double-take at the screen to realise what just happened. Woo Hoo indeed!

Slow November? I don't think so! I've actually made almost as much at SS in the last 3 days as I am projected to make in the entire month at IS. Amazing how much things have changed so quickly.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: tab62 on November 14, 2012, 23:28
Now I feel bad! Everyone and their brother/sister is making money 'hand over fist' while I chug along with lot's of .33 sales  :'(

Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Anyka on November 15, 2012, 02:00
Now I feel bad! Everyone and their brother/sister is making money 'hand over fist' while I chug along with lot's of .33 sales  :'(
Do you feel better if I tell you that my downloads on SS are down by 13% compared to November 2011?   DOS's are up, and EL's are about the same, so I'll probably end up with a break even.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 15, 2012, 02:07
Yep! last three days in particular,  brillant!  but I am dubvious, they are fiddling around with the sort and we all know what that can lead to.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 15, 2012, 03:35
Yep! last three days in particular,  brillant!  but I am dubvious, they are * around with the sort and we all know what that can lead to.
Yes it's been 3 days for me now.  I have made as much in the last 3 days as I usually do in 8 or 9 days. :)
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: etienjones on November 15, 2012, 04:02
For me SS is also selling like crazy, while all the other sites are down . . . .  kind of like a Black Hole ravaging all the nearby stars.  Shutterstock is a great agency and they deserve it.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Mantis on November 15, 2012, 11:16
Yep! last three days in particular,  brillant!  but I am dubvious, they are fiddling around with the sort and we all know what that can lead to.

I had some great days but the last two have fallen off a cliff.  I made a mere 14 bucks yesterday and only 6 today compared to my norm of $30 to $60 a day. Seems that they may be fiddling with the best match.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 15, 2012, 11:20
Don't know if it's a coincidence or not but for the last 3 days that SS has been so good the sales have virtually stopped at Bigstock.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 15, 2012, 12:13
There must be a temporary surge in micro. All four, SS, IS, DT and FT, are doing extremely well. If this keeps up we will :) laugh all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 15, 2012, 12:55
I see it over and over; sales at one site stop only to see sales at a different site pick up.  SS is slow this week; DT is going quite well.
 I keep looking for the link but it is a mystery. 

Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: tab62 on November 15, 2012, 13:14
Your all laughing your way to the bank while the bank is going to take away my house if I don't make more sales  :-\


Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 15, 2012, 13:19
There must be a temporary surge in micro. All four, SS, IS, DT and FT, are doing extremely well. If this keeps up we will :) laugh all the way to the bank.
It looks like it will be the best month this year for me on all the big 4 but November always has been a good month for me for dls.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: JPSDK on November 15, 2012, 13:34
The trees do not grow into the sky.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: etienjones on November 15, 2012, 13:37
The trees do not grow into the sky.

WHAT?
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 15, 2012, 13:42
Your all laughing your way to the bank while the bank is going to take away my house if I don't make more sales  :-\
Don't dispair.  It will be your turn again soon. :D
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: cthoman on November 15, 2012, 13:44

SS - slow at the beginning of nov. but the last two days were fantastic with consistant EL's and big SOD's.....biggest disappointment is FT  this month( my 2nd earner ).

Same here __ sales at SS have been going ballistic for the last couple of days, particularly those chunky SOD's. I think I am currently having my BDE there and there's still quite a few hours to go too!

Me three. Lots of Single sales and OD. It does make me wonder what would happen if you just turned off sub sales. And before anyone yells at me... It's just a random musing or curiosity and not a suggestion.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 15, 2012, 15:08

SS - slow at the beginning of nov. but the last two days were fantastic with consistant EL's and big SOD's.....biggest disappointment is FT  this month( my 2nd earner ).

Same here __ sales at SS have been going ballistic for the last couple of days, particularly those chunky SOD's. I think I am currently having my BDE there and there's still quite a few hours to go too!

Me three. Lots of Single sales and OD. It does make me wonder what would happen if you just turned off sub sales. And before anyone yells at me... It's just a random musing or curiosity and not a suggestion.

Yes but maybe we should be cautious with three day euphoria?  according to some, maybe its a glitch or a bug?  but SS is definetely doing something weird with their sort-order and on a day to day basis it seems.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: etienjones on November 15, 2012, 15:58
I think it has something to do with these new Public Sets.  I have been selling things that haven't had any action for a very long time . . . . .  but are now part of Sets.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 15, 2012, 17:00

SS - slow at the beginning of nov. but the last two days were fantastic with consistant EL's and big SOD's.....biggest disappointment is FT  this month( my 2nd earner ).

Same here __ sales at SS have been going ballistic for the last couple of days, particularly those chunky SOD's. I think I am currently having my BDE there and there's still quite a few hours to go too!

Me three. Lots of Single sales and OD. It does make me wonder what would happen if you just turned off sub sales. And before anyone yells at me... It's just a random musing or curiosity and not a suggestion.

Yes but maybe we should be cautious with three day euphoria?  according to some, maybe its a glitch or a bug?  but SS is definetely doing something weird with their sort-order and on a day to day basis it seems.
I've learnt to always be cautious lately where stock is concerned and just enjoy the good days while we get them.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 15, 2012, 17:01
I think it has something to do with these new Public Sets.  I have been selling things that haven't had any action for a very long time . . . . .  but are now part of Sets.
I only put my sets up yesterday.  My BDe was the day before that.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: modviz on November 15, 2012, 17:30
I have a standard set of five or six images that sell everyday. For the first few days this week sales were generated from images I had never sold before with SS and the "daily sales" images stopped selling. Today its back to normal.

A very good month by the way but I've always felt "how are your sales" topics are much like comparing apples to oranges. My portfolio is probably very different from yours. I almost think "Microstock Group" should include a short subject description under everybody's pseudonym. "Landscapes", "Portrait", "Commercial", etc. That way if someone has a similar category I can make a more accurate comparison. 
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: sarah2 on November 16, 2012, 03:19
My sales this month on a very general port have typically been one or two days when things are way up - then way way way down for the next few. Really odd variation. And nothing new moving. 
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 16, 2012, 04:04
In my 7 years of doing stock I don't remember ever seeing such large fluctuations on a daily basis on all of the big 4.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: rubyroo on November 16, 2012, 04:16
The Big 4 are doing fine for me just now... SS is exceptional, iStock and DT are up, and even FT is doing better than usual.  Other than that, only 123RF is performing for me.  Everywhere else is pretty dead. 

Thanks to the increases at the Big 4 (particularly SS), I'm seeing an overall increase even with the drops from middle tier and below. 

Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 16, 2012, 05:29
The Big 4 are doing fine for me just now... SS is exceptional, iStock and DT are up, and even FT is doing better than usual.  Other than that, only 123RF is performing for me.  Everywhere else is pretty dead. 

Thanks to the increases at the Big 4 (particularly SS), I'm seeing an overall increase even with the drops from middle tier and below.

Agree 100%, all of them are doing fine. Is,  is really coming back, the last three days have produced great results for an indie that is, cant believe it really. DT, same thing.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: John W. on November 16, 2012, 05:37
My sales this month on a very general port have typically been one or two days when things are way up - then way way way down for the next few. Really odd variation. And nothing new moving.

The same happened with my port at SS. Real strange and It seems they're messing with search results on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 16, 2012, 06:23
My sales this month on a very general port have typically been one or two days when things are way up - then way way way down for the next few. Really odd variation. And nothing new moving.

The same happened with my port at SS. Real strange and It seems they're messing with search results on a daily basis.

The trouble is. You cant upload with this changing of sort. The ones that did ( according to their forum) had disaster, images ended up way, way back.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: JPSDK on November 16, 2012, 06:35
Thats nothing new.

If your new pictures took off when they were new or if they were burried, has been more or less random in the last couple of years.
Then keywords and concepts become more important.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 16, 2012, 07:35
Thats nothing new.

If your new pictures took off when they were new or if they were burried, has been more or less random in the last couple of years.
Then keywords and concepts become more important.

Nah it depends on what you upload. Sure lots of generic, middle of the road stuff, fair enough but if you start uploading special, nieched material, believe me you dont want to see that burried in the sand. Too difficult and hard to come by.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: JPSDK on November 16, 2012, 08:14
Im a niche photographer if anybody is.
Nische stuff still gets burried, and then slowly works its way up.- if its good enough.

Contrary to the old days, 3 years ago, when you could photograph anything and sell a lot of new pics when they showed up in the searches.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: dbvirago on November 16, 2012, 13:37
November starting off to be another great month at SS. This year, they have rallied to old levels for me. Until today, which is slower than a weekend.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: luissantos84 on November 18, 2012, 00:14
from the overall earnings chart I can see that the last week (11 of Nov) was the 2nd worst week of the last 6 months
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 18, 2012, 02:32
True!  worst week ever almost and for everybody.

I think I stay away from these sets. Couple of friends at SS did these sets, etc and all of a sudden their earnings went right down and these guys have big ports and I mean BIG.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 18, 2012, 03:22
True!  worst week ever almost and for everybody.

Quote

I think I stay away from these sets. Couple of friends at SS did these sets, etc and all of a sudden their earnings went right down and these guys have big ports and I mean BIG.
Not true, it was probably my best week ever.
 I thought that you were one of the others that had loads of SOD sales last week,

I don't see how doing the sets can possible lower your sales!!!!
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 18, 2012, 04:43
True!  worst week ever almost and for everybody.

Quote

I think I stay away from these sets. Couple of friends at SS did these sets, etc and all of a sudden their earnings went right down and these guys have big ports and I mean BIG.
Not true, it was probably my best week ever.
 I thought that you were one of the others that had loads of SOD sales last week,

I don't see how doing the sets can possible lower your sales!!!!

I dont mean last week, that was one of the best ever, yes loads of ODs and ELs. Im talking about this week! or say the last 5 days which cant have escaped you.

About the seats? I dont know, I havent done any. Im only reffering to what some other people are saying.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 18, 2012, 05:27

 Im talking about this week! or say the last 5 days which cant have escaped you.


  The last 5 days include the days when there were loads of Sod's.  The 12th, 13th and 14th were the good days.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: vector99 on November 18, 2012, 05:31
This month is super slow($$$) on SS. Is it only me or........
Any thoughts?
Same for me... :(
Last month was the best... I don't know what happened!?...
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 18, 2012, 05:49
This month is super slow($$$) on SS. Is it only me or........
Any thoughts?
Same for me... :(
Last month was the best... I don't know what happened!?...

Well what happend is obvious. For some reason as everybody have noticed over there, they are somehow changing their search-algorithm and it seems to be on a daily basis.

Im not sure if its just pure coincidecne or whatever but since this IPO business, small changes here and there are beginning to creep into their system.
Oh well so far they are the best, no doubt about that but it wouldnt surprise me if there are some big changes coming.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Poncke on November 18, 2012, 06:30
Not everybody, only a handful
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: ClaridgeJ on November 18, 2012, 07:23
Not everybody, only a handful

Hanful?  about 70% including yourself?  hmmmmmmm?
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Poncke on November 18, 2012, 08:44
Not everybody, only a handful

Hanful?  about 70% including yourself?  hmmmmmmm?

The forum doesnt represent everyone. Plus Whenever someone says sales are crap someone else says their sales are up. Its never been everyone.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: sdeva on November 20, 2012, 15:38
This month is super slow($$$) on SS. Is it only me or........
Any thoughts?

SS pretty good showing recovery over sept - oct.  DT is ok.  FT dropped mid month and staying in a hole.  IS up and down as usual for me.  Bigstock doing well compared to my usual numbers since last 2 to 3 months. Oct was a BME month unfortunately Nov wont match up.  Lets see what Christmas brings ;)
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: JPSDK on November 20, 2012, 15:58
Dls are about 3/4 of october.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 20, 2012, 17:22
Just another good stable month for me so far, but the sets does work fantastically. Not being so long with SS I only have 1 image that went ballistic with downloads (180 in a few months - not a lot for many here, but a lot for me for 1 image). I have placed the image with about 9 others in a set and within a week now I at least had a 1st sale on half the others.
Personally I think only the unnecessary over cautious will pass up on this great marketing opportunity to route extra views and therefore potential sales to you own port.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: THP Creative on November 20, 2012, 18:22
Slightly lower number of downloads compared to last month (highest ever), but way more per download this month. On track for BME. Heaps of ED's and OD's.

Can't complain, SS is doing well for me. It's DT that has dropped the ball...
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: JPSDK on November 20, 2012, 18:40
The sets?
Im uncomfortable with these.
Are they just another search paremeter where we can do all the work and promote ourselves on the cost of something else.
What about the pictures that are not in the sets?
What about sets from one person on behalf of another.
I mean, when you make a set, do you then compete with my pictures or  with your own.
Also, where are they spread and how, and what is not spread?

Is it so, that from now on, its only meaningfull if you put your pictures in sets.
So, has now the search gone from single pictures to whole sets the photographers put together.
Im not comfortable.
When you put a set together are you at the same time abandoning the other pictures you have?

Also I fear that the next logical step is to search for whole collections. Like an agencys collections.
Thats noth healthy.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 20, 2012, 18:48
I might be wrong, but as far as I have it the only change is when people look at your portfolio. Not sure if it influences the similar images display (will be nice if it does). And you definitely do not have to add anyone else's images to your own sets. If it is not in a set, it is still displayed as normal in your portfolio.

The sets are a mere additional option to buyers to view your images. That is exactly my (and surely SS's) view, to make it easier for the buyer to find what they are looking for. Do not use it and you will not offer a function to your buyers which other contributors do.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: fotografer on November 21, 2012, 05:47
I might be wrong, but as far as I have it the only change is when people look at your portfolio. Not sure if it influences the similar images display (will be nice if it does). And you definitely do not have to add anyone else's images to your own sets. If it is not in a set, it is still displayed as normal in your portfolio.

The sets are a mere additional option to buyers to view your images. That is exactly my (and surely SS's) view, to make it easier for the buyer to find what they are looking for. Do not use it and you will not offer a function to your buyers which other contributors do.
That's the way I saw it.  Most customers will never see your sets unless they actually go into your portfolio.  I think all it does is make it easier for buyers to search your port for mor images.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 21, 2012, 06:28
I think all it does is make it easier for buyers to search your port for more images.

Specifically for more of the same images, which was not possible in the past. I placed all my images in sets (something like 28 of them) and the only old images that I had 1st time sales on was in the set with my 1 high selling image. Enough proof for me and enough said. Those who do not want to use it, please don't, it just increases my chance of a sale  ;)
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Carl on November 21, 2012, 06:54
A significantly slow month for me at SS so far.  I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing the same.  I'll be putting my sets together later today.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: mayaartist on November 21, 2012, 09:27
slow month for me too. Even uploading every day doesn't help in my case.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Perry on November 21, 2012, 13:13
At least they are slow at showing up new accepted images... My new images have been hanging somewhere for the past 24 hours, can't understand what is taking so long.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 21, 2012, 13:41
At least they are slow at showing up new accepted images... My new images have been hanging somewhere for the past 24 hours, can't understand what is taking so long.

Mine too.  A bit concerned.  Don't remember that being the norm?
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Perry on November 22, 2012, 04:53
My images are still in "limbo"... Does anyone else beside me and Warren have the same problem?
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 22, 2012, 05:08
My images are still in "limbo"... Does anyone else beside me and Warren have the same problem?
Had a few approved yesterday late and they are in my port already (about within 14 hours). Sounds like you guys have to contact support.

PS Already have my first sale on one of them.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Tantoon on November 22, 2012, 05:23
Very SLOW moth for me too, (SS only)
I don't think it's normal, the market doesn't act like that, there's always a margin(up and down).. anything outside that margin isn't normal,
last month sales were way above it and this one are way below it, it can't be a coincidence.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Perry on November 22, 2012, 05:29
About the missing images, I just found this (I'm very, very rarely on SS forums)
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=114196&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 (http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=114196&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 22, 2012, 05:47
About the missing images, I just found this (I'm very, very rarely on SS forums)
[url]http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=114196&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0[/url] ([url]http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=114196&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0[/url])


You did note that that was a Nov 2011 issue?

I am actually having a quite good month at SS (made some nice sales the last 4 days especially).
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: modviz on November 22, 2012, 06:19
Can't complain, SS is doing well for me. It's DT that has dropped the ball...

Yes. Same here. Probably a BME with SS. The sets are really helping to sell images that ordinarily sit untouched. Dreamstime is stuck in the muck and has been for months.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 22, 2012, 13:56
My sales are fine but several "approved" files are still missing from portfolio. 
There is a thread on SS forum.

Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: vectorweb on November 28, 2012, 13:45
It started slow, now is ok. But yes, ı have approval problem too that they accepted my files after "11" days. It ıs very surprising and i did not benefit from well my last uploads in that way.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Poncke on November 28, 2012, 14:31
I am on 11 days too and its crap. I have 51 files pending and I am afraid they are going to go online come weekend. So its another 51 files down the drain. Dont tell me thats just a hoax, I had a few batches that hit the weekend the files never had a chance. And they were good photos.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: gostwyck on November 28, 2012, 14:49
I am on 11 days too and its crap. I have 51 files pending and I am afraid they are going to go online come weekend. So its another 51 files down the drain. Dont tell me thats just a hoax, I had a few batches that hit the weekend the files never had a chance. And they were good photos.

In 8 years of uploading to SS I can't say I've ever identified an issue with images being approved on a weekend. Good images always get noticed and bought (and plenty of bad ones too) although sometimes it can take several weeks rather than days for them to take off.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Poncke on November 28, 2012, 15:25
I am on 11 days too and its crap. I have 51 files pending and I am afraid they are going to go online come weekend. So its another 51 files down the drain. Dont tell me thats just a hoax, I had a few batches that hit the weekend the files never had a chance. And they were good photos.

In 8 years of uploading to SS I can't say I've ever identified an issue with images being approved on a weekend. Good images always get noticed and bought (and plenty of bad ones too) although sometimes it can take several weeks rather than days for them to take off.

I guess you are right, you have a point, but some batches had my better photos, hit the weekend and the sales from them are really disappointing. But having said that, the photos are probably not better then anything else up there.

OTOH, I just got my batch reviewed, 1 rejection (trademark) of 51 photos, so 50 photos hitting the market on Wednesday afternoon. Thats giving them a fair chance. I am happy with that. I had a few photos in there that I have high expectations for. We'll see.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: gostwyck on November 28, 2012, 15:36
^^^ Good luck with them.

What is really damaging to new uploads at the moment is that the keywords used to buy them do not appear to be registering. They've got no chance of climbing the default sort-order whilst that remains.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: luissantos84 on November 28, 2012, 15:43
just got some batches reviewed too, will see when they will really hit the market because they aren't showing up (again)
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Poncke on November 28, 2012, 15:45
just got some batches reviewed too, will see when they will really hit the market because they aren't showing up (again)
Normally takes a few hours. They should be searchable though.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: luissantos84 on November 28, 2012, 15:49
just got some batches reviewed too, will see when they will really hit the market because they aren't showing up (again)
Normally takes a few hours. They should be searchable though.

yep but they aren't searchable..
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Poncke on November 28, 2012, 16:01
Same here  >:(
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: nicku on November 28, 2012, 16:04
Relative slow this month on SS... after 3 BME's in a row   :-\

But FT is beyond any expectations  ;D ;D ;D and manage to recover a very big chunk of SS loses.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 28, 2012, 16:39
Relative slow this month on SS... after 3 BME's in a row   :-\

But FT is beyond any expectations  ;D ;D ;D and manage to recover a very big chunk of SS loses.

Also disappointed in SS this month but excited about the uptick at DT.

Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 28, 2012, 17:07
Funny industry. Having a BME at SS and FT.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Poncke on November 28, 2012, 17:21
Funny industry. Having a BME at SS and FT.
Me too
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: gostwyck on November 29, 2012, 08:34
Another consecutive BME at SS for me too. Somehow SS just keeps growing.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: modviz on November 29, 2012, 09:13
I really wish people who respond to "how are you doing" topics
would end their reply with a quick rundown of what they specialize in.
This constant "I'm doing great - I'm doing lousy" is totally useless
dribble unless we know what kind of catagory you fall into. Studio?
People? Landscape? Product? Information is only good when it includes
detail.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: lisafx on November 29, 2012, 09:21
I really wish people who respond to "how are you doing" topics
would end their reply with a quick rundown of what they specialize in.
This constant "I'm doing great - I'm doing lousy" is totally useless
dribble unless we know what kind of catagory you fall into. Studio?
People? Landscape? Product? Information is only good when it includes
detail.

Perhaps with a link to their best selling photos and instructions how to reproduce them?  ;)
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: gostwyck on November 29, 2012, 09:26
I really wish people who respond to "how are you doing" topics
would end their reply with a quick rundown of what they specialize in.
This constant "I'm doing great - I'm doing lousy" is totally useless
dribble unless we know what kind of catagory you fall into. Studio?
People? Landscape? Product? Information is only good when it includes
detail.

Perhaps with a link to their best selling photos and instructions how to reproduce them?  ;)

We could always meet up and shoot the images for you. Then we could buy you some drinks whilst we processed and uploaded the images to all your agencies. That would be great!
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 29, 2012, 09:38
I really wish people who respond to "how are you doing" topics
would end their reply with a quick rundown of what they specialize in.
This constant "I'm doing great - I'm doing lousy" is totally useless
dribble unless we know what kind of catagory you fall into. Studio?
People? Landscape? Product? Information is only good when it includes
detail.

No studio, people, landscape, product, art, artistic, conceptual, nature, animals, pets, agriculture, architecture, abstract, objects, isolations (pictures), silhouettes, artistic isolations (created images); places; few christmas cards (watch this space for further updates, I must just go browse through my 2000 images to check on the other categories).  After that I will tell you which of these categories contains the images that are actually selling.... ;) 
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on November 29, 2012, 12:18
I love Shuttersock!!

I just passed last month's BME (which had been lifted by a $79 single/other license) so November is now another BME. In all the effing gloom of larcenous agencies, it's nice to be getting some good vibes

I love Shutterstock - did I mention that?
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 29, 2012, 12:20
I love Shuttersock!!

I just passed last month's BME (which had been lifted by a $79 single/other license) so November is now another BME. In all the effing gloom of larcenous agencies, it's nice to be getting some good vibes

I love Shutterstock - did I mention that?

 :o
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Poncke on November 29, 2012, 12:25
I really wish people who respond to "how are you doing" topics
would end their reply with a quick rundown of what they specialize in.
This constant "I'm doing great - I'm doing lousy" is totally useless
dribble unless we know what kind of catagory you fall into. Studio?
People? Landscape? Product? Information is only good when it includes
detail.
I have  a BME on SS and FT and I do so-so on DP and 123 and PD and CanStockPhoto are really lousy at the moment. I sell  landscapes, photoshopped stuff, isolations, skylines, people, signs, nightshots, nature, flowers, backgrounds, concepts, interiors, animals, architecture, transport, food, black and white, religious and editorial.

I hope my specifications help a bit. Or is it too much detail now? Not exactly sure how you want it. There wasnt enough detail in your request.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: gostwyck on November 29, 2012, 12:33
I love Shuttersock!!

I just passed last month's BME (which had been lifted by a $79 single/other license) so November is now another BME. In all the effing gloom of larcenous agencies, it's nice to be getting some good vibes

I love Shutterstock - did I mention that?

Congrats! Incredible sustained growth from SS. My earnings at SS are projected to be 38% higher than Nov 2011, which itself was 32% higher than 2010. Unfortunately every other agency, apart from BigStock, will be well down on last year but I guess the events are closely related.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 29, 2012, 13:06
Congrats! Incredible sustained growth from SS. My earnings at SS are projected to be 38% higher than Nov 2011, which itself was 32% higher than 2010. Unfortunately every other agency, apart from BigStock, will be well down on last year but I guess the events are closely related.

Seems like one of those months for me where what you loose on the swings you make up on the roundabouts. Some great gains on a few sites, but not leading to a BME overall.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: cthoman on November 29, 2012, 13:31
I love Shuttersock!!

I just passed last month's BME (which had been lifted by a $79 single/other license) so November is now another BME. In all the effing gloom of larcenous agencies, it's nice to be getting some good vibes

I love Shutterstock - did I mention that?

Congrats! Incredible sustained growth from SS. My earnings at SS are projected to be 38% higher than Nov 2011, which itself was 32% higher than 2010. Unfortunately every other agency, apart from BigStock, will be well down on last year but I guess the events are closely related.

This must be where all my sales are going.  ;)
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: RacePhoto on November 29, 2012, 13:56
I love Shuttersock!!

I just passed last month's BME (which had been lifted by a $79 single/other license) so November is now another BME. In all the effing gloom of larcenous agencies, it's nice to be getting some good vibes

I love Shutterstock - did I mention that?

Congrats! Incredible sustained growth from SS. My earnings at SS are projected to be 38% higher than Nov 2011, which itself was 32% higher than 2010. Unfortunately every other agency, apart from BigStock, will be well down on last year but I guess the events are closely related.

This must be where all my sales are going.  ;)

I always think that when people complain about the search changes or rank. Someone else is getting all their sales and I'm one of those people. Do I need to apologize to you for stealing your income?  ;)

At least you know, it's not the whole site that's broken and you can recover in some other month. I really can't understand why you would have such a drop, when I have some pretty weak offerings and they just produce a flat rate, pretty much all year long. Maybe good work has more fluctuations?
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: cthoman on November 29, 2012, 15:56
I always think that when people complain about the search changes or rank. Someone else is getting all their sales and I'm one of those people. Do I need to apologize to you for stealing your income?  ;)

At least you know, it's not the whole site that's broken and you can recover in some other month. I really can't understand why you would have such a drop, when I have some pretty weak offerings and they just produce a flat rate, pretty much all year long. Maybe good work has more fluctuations?

No. I don't really blame anyone. Besides, I abandoned ship, stole the life raft and started rowing toward a nice looking tropical island when I saw a couple storm clouds in the sky.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: cascoly on November 29, 2012, 16:02
started slow, but finishing as 5th BME (over 5 years), with all of thos ein last 13 months, so running average continues to outperform ;last year

pond5 starting to show some image sales, ft,big improving slioghtly, dt holding steady
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CardensDesign on November 29, 2012, 21:47
BME ever for me (7 years), and almost twice as much as my previous best month (Oct 2012)
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: luissantos84 on November 29, 2012, 21:51
BME ever for me (7 years), and almost twice as much as my previous best month (Oct 2012)

2012??? wow!
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CardensDesign on November 29, 2012, 23:23
BME ever for me (7 years), and almost twice as much as my previous best month (Oct 2012)

2012??? wow!

Yes I know. I hope its not a fluke! I've been busy shooting weddings and havent uploaded a lot of stock photos either. But now its the off season and I'll have more time for stock.  Looking forward to 2013!
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: Carl on November 30, 2012, 07:12
My SS sales this month aren't even half of what they were last month.   :o
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: leaf on November 30, 2012, 07:33
My Shutterstock income will be about 12% down from Oct but up about 30% from last year.  Oct was a good month so overall I guess I won't complain.  Disappointing that Nov won't be a BME however, October took all the glory.
Title: Re: Slow November
Post by: CD123 on November 30, 2012, 09:37
My Shutterstock income will be about 12% down from Oct but up about 30% from last year.  Oct was a good month so overall I guess I won't complain.  Disappointing that Nov won't be a BME however, October took all the glory.
My overall BME last month as well, but BME on SS this month. It really outperformed itself this month by far!

csproductions, had the same quite often when other guys had great months. Might be very port specific. You might have a roaring December (hope so for your sake), have a great end to 2012, while our sales might shut down early (who knows). Have you created sets for your images?