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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: SpaceStockFootage on November 09, 2022, 17:54
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A thread for all your positive SS news and big-ish sales! I'll start... after a pretty poor summer, sales are back up to around the $200/$300 a month mark (I only have 292 videos there), and here's a pretty decent one from the end of October.
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A very cool SS how well he sells.
Here are some sells from few days ago...
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
What??? ... WOW this is huge...
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That's a whopper!
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
Congrats on that one! Great!
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I had a big sale at the beginning of the month. There will probably be a little more money this month than last. Happy for those from whom they buy.
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
Did you buy a photo or a video?
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
Did you buy a photo or a video?
No. I sold a photo or a video. In this case it was a video.
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807$ !!! :o
I don’t remember such commissions on the SS, something new, hmm.
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807$ !!! :o
I don’t remember such commissions on the SS, something new, hmm.
Just to clarify, as you often seem to add two and two together and get... I dunno... skateboards?! The something that is new here is you hearing of a sale as high as $807... what's not new is somebody getting a sale as high as $807. Sounds like a trivial difference, but it's actually very important.
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Here are my sales from a few days ago...
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Largest clip sale I've ever had on SS.
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807$ !!! :o
I don’t remember such commissions on the SS, something new, hmm.
Just to clarify, as you often seem to add two and two together and get... I dunno... skateboards?! The something that is new here is you hearing of a sale as high as $807... what's not new is somebody getting a sale as high as $807. Sounds like a trivial difference, but it's actually very important.
I can count, I can write.
Where, when and from whom did you see a $800 video being sold? How many examples can you give?
I write honestly and openly. And you are trying to troll.
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Just 2 days ago a simple sand ground sold for $18,59 - liked that one :-)
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I can give more than one, and more than one is all that is required to illustrate that such commissions on the SS are not new. You can count and you can write, that's not in question... what you seem to have issue with is interpreting what you read and what you have experienced. While there's nothing wrong with that per se... when people explain it to you you choose to ignore them, assume they're making stuff up, or decide that multiple instances of things happening to several contributors, is somehow less important than what's happening to you, an individual.
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I have a 30% down this year in SS but to be honest I can't say that the things are going so bad, some medium sales happens day by day
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I can give more than one
I'm waiting for a link. Or are you a liar!
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I can give more than one
I'm waiting for a link. Or are you a liar!
Someone's education has definitely failed - throwing around accusations and insults like 'liar' should actually be enough for a ban, shouldn't it?
Have a nice day@All
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Sry - double post
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I can give more than one
I'm waiting for a link. Or are you a liar!
Someone's education has definitely failed - throwing around accusations and insults like 'liar' should actually be enough for a ban, shouldn't it?
Have a nice day@All
I can't answer your question, because I don't know the answer to it. However, I am surprised that trolls are not banned on this forum.
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I can give more than one
I'm waiting for a link. Or are you a liar!
Someone's education has definitely failed - throwing around accusations and insults like 'liar' should actually be enough for a ban, shouldn't it?
Have a nice day@All
Michael, I wouldn't take that too seriously.
If the only person here, who apparently has all day time to flood the forum with contributions, receives zero approval for it and then calls all others trolls - that speaks volumes.
Annoying just a bit to read here. Is at the moment somehow groundhog day here: stoker2014, stoker2014 ..... ;)
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These are all from Blackbox, but as SS is the only place that does licenses that high, then they may as well be screenshots of SS earnings... but just 15% higher. Will that do you? Now, if you could just provide proof that SS gave you sales due to you emailing them, that everybody you've spoken to has experienced a massive drop in earnings, that SS are stealing etc etc... to demonstrate you're not a liar... that would be much appreciated.
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Michael, I wouldn't take that too seriously.
If the only person here, who apparently has all day time to flood the forum with contributions, receives zero approval for it and then calls all others trolls - that speaks volumes.
Annoying just a bit to read here. Is at the moment somehow groundhog day here: stoker2014, stoker2014 ..... ;)
Don't worry - I've probably been out of the age where this upsets me for a while :-)
It's more like an annoying squeak under the shoe and somehow also amusing.
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These are all from Blackbox, but as SS is the only place that does licenses that high, then they may as well be screenshots of SS earnings... but just 15% higher. Will that do you?
No. This is a juggling of some facts. Such licenses are on the Getty for example. And most likely it was sold to the Getty or Alami.
I have to add you to ignore, because. you write flood, troll and write lies.
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These are all from Blackbox, but as SS is the only place that does licenses that high, then they may as well be screenshots of SS earnings... but just 15% higher. Will that do you?
No. This is a juggling of some facts. Such licenses are on the Getty for example. And most likely it was sold to the Getty or Alami.
I have to add you to ignore, because. you write flood, troll and write lies.
Try again… Blackbox don’t submit to Getty or Alamy!
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These are all from Blackbox, but as SS is the only place that does licenses that high, then they may as well be screenshots of SS earnings... but just 15% higher. Will that do you?
No. This is a juggling of some facts. Such licenses are on the Getty for example. And most likely it was sold to the Getty or Alami.
I have to add you to ignore, because. you write flood, troll and write lies.
Try again… Blackbox don’t submit to Getty or Alamy!
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
My biggest sale was $300. You're one lucky duck :D
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These are all from Blackbox, but as SS is the only place that does licenses that high, then they may as well be screenshots of SS earnings... but just 15% higher. Will that do you?
No. This is a juggling of some facts. Such licenses are on the Getty for example. And most likely it was sold to the Getty or Alami.
I have to add you to ignore, because. you write flood, troll and write lies.
Try again… Blackbox don’t submit to Getty or Alamy!
Stoker makes up his own truth and facts, don't bother.
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
Whoah, indeed! Super well done, Pace!
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
Whoah, indeed! Super well done, Pace!
Thanks Annie, and great to see you drop in the forum again!
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
Whoah, indeed! Super well done, Pace!
Thanks Annie, and great to see you drop in the forum again!
I told you, you had what it takes. ;) Nice to see it all come to fruition.
(My husband Nick has been sick. He woke up one morning with the lefthand side of his face paralysed. It was such a shock - he only recently turned 50yo. But fortunately it wasnt a stroke. He has Bells Palsy. Doc not sure what caused it. Perhaps long working hours and stress, but possibly a virus - or maybe even a reaction to vacc. He cant work as well as he used to, so I've been helping out. It may be permanent or just temporary, just have to wait and see. Anyway, sorry to digress, I just wanted to let you know why I might not be around much.
I have been checking in on the forum occasionally, mainly for updates on Adobe PNGs, and then I saw your sale and had to congratulate you. BTW, I hope you and family have recovered after all the flooding. )
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These are all from Blackbox, but as SS is the only place that does licenses that high, then they may as well be screenshots of SS earnings... but just 15% higher. Will that do you? Now, if you could just provide proof that SS gave you sales due to you emailing them, that everybody you've spoken to has experienced a massive drop in earnings, that SS are stealing etc etc... to demonstrate you're not a liar... that would be much appreciated.
This is spectacular stuff, I've never even heard of a 1k+ sale. More power to people like you
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I told you, you had what it takes. ;) Nice to see it all come to fruition.
(My husband Nick has been sick. He woke up one morning with the lefthand side of his face paralysed. It was such a shock - he only recently turned 50yo. But fortunately it wasnt a stroke. He has Bells Palsy. Doc not sure what caused it. Perhaps long working hours and stress, but possibly a virus - or maybe even a reaction to vacc. He cant work as well as he used to, so I've been helping out. It may be permanent or just temporary, just have to wait and see. Anyway, sorry to digress, I just wanted to let you know why I might not be around much.
I have been checking in on the forum occasionally, mainly for updates on Adobe PNGs, and then I saw your sale and had to congratulate you. BTW, I hope you and family have recovered after all the flooding. )
Oh no. So sorry to hear this. Sending best wishes to you and your husband. I know another regular member of the forum have had Bells Palsy (don't want to out them, but they have spoken about it). I believe they made a good recovery, hoping the same thing for your husband.
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I told you, you had what it takes. ;) Nice to see it all come to fruition.
(My husband Nick has been sick. He woke up one morning with the lefthand side of his face paralysed. It was such a shock - he only recently turned 50yo. But fortunately it wasnt a stroke. He has Bells Palsy. Doc not sure what caused it. Perhaps long working hours and stress, but possibly a virus - or maybe even a reaction to vacc. He cant work as well as he used to, so I've been helping out. It may be permanent or just temporary, just have to wait and see. Anyway, sorry to digress, I just wanted to let you know why I might not be around much.
I have been checking in on the forum occasionally, mainly for updates on Adobe PNGs, and then I saw your sale and had to congratulate you. BTW, I hope you and family have recovered after all the flooding. )
Oh no. So sorry to hear this. Sending best wishes to you and your husband. I know another regular member of the forum have had Bells Palsy (don't want to out them, but they have spoken about it). I believe they made a good recovery, hoping the same thing for your husband.
Oh, thank you so much for your kind words! Its been such a worry. Its good to have some hope.
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And I just want to say, for any disbelievers, I have seen another video commission from SS as large as Pace's. It was a little while ago and from another fellow Aussie for a top notch drone video. He showed it to me at the time and thought it was a mistake. lol. But it wasn't. I am guessing these will appear in some movie or big ad campaign or similar.
And also, I want to congratulate the person who named this thread. LOL. It took me awhile to work it out until I saw the original reference in the other thread. ;D
Anyway, thanks guys. wishing you all a good weekend.
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Annie, I echo what Pacesetter said: Nice to hear from you again!
I wish your husband and you all the best and especially a speedy recovery.
Greetings to you down under!
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And I just want to say, for any disbelievers, I have seen another video commission from SS as large as Pace's.
To believe or not to believe is a personal matter, as in religion, the church. But a link to a screenshot of the income from the SS would be the best confirmation.
But all this is not very important, it is enough that we saw at least one screenshot in this thread. Previously, such income was only on the getty, but now the unprofitable SS has shown such income. All this is extremely strange and not fair. Most of the creators suffer from a lack of sales, and someone gets $ 800 for one video. SS breaks another bottom!
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Great to see your return Annie
I had a similar incident - i woke up one morning and couldn't use my right hand. Scary. my case was eventually diagnosed as a deposit on cervical vertebrate that pinched the nerve. i eventually was able to get much use restored as the nerve slowly regenerated but still have weak thumb/index finger and intermittent tremor which makes photography more interesting. it's now more of any annoyance than a handicap
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All this is extremely strange and not fair.
Most of the creators suffer from a lack of sales, and someone gets $ 800 for one video. SS breaks another bottom!
No, this is a new low for you!
Instead of appreciating the fact that Pace hit the bullseye due to his skills and understanding of the customer demands, instead of appreciating that SS did a great job negociating a high sale price with its customer, you consider these achievements unfair. ::)
Maybe you expect SS to take money away from what Pace earned fair and square, and redistribute it in the name of some marxist "fairness"? ::)
Or it's just plain envy for someone's success?
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
Whoah, indeed! Super well done, Pace!
Thanks Annie, and great to see you drop in the forum again!
I told you, you had what it takes. ;) Nice to see it all come to fruition.
(My husband Nick has been sick. He woke up one morning with the lefthand side of his face paralysed. It was such a shock - he only recently turned 50yo. But fortunately it wasnt a stroke. He has Bells Palsy. Doc not sure what caused it. Perhaps long working hours and stress, but possibly a virus - or maybe even a reaction to vacc. He cant work as well as he used to, so I've been helping out. It may be permanent or just temporary, just have to wait and see. Anyway, sorry to digress, I just wanted to let you know why I might not be around much.
I have been checking in on the forum occasionally, mainly for updates on Adobe PNGs, and then I saw your sale and had to congratulate you. BTW, I hope you and family have recovered after all the flooding. )
Annie, sorry to hear your husband is sick with this... I've never heard of this condition before! Totally understandable why you can't be around much. I join other forum members above to wish you and your husband the very best during this time. Our health definitely takes a priority post-50 years. I turned 52 in September.
My family just sold the house at East Hills where they had some four to five floods just this year 2022 and moved further out South West of Sydney. The home was owned by my dad since the mid-1950s so was very strange to see it go but there were just too many floods along the Georges River where the house and yard extending to the river was and they got tired of it.
And have to laugh at your realization of the title of this thread hahaha. ;D I thought it was good too.
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And I just want to say, for any disbelievers, I have seen another video commission from SS as large as Pace's.
To believe or not to believe is a personal matter, as in religion, the church. But a link to a screenshot of the income from the SS would be the best confirmation.
But all this is not very important, it is enough that we saw at least one screenshot in this thread. Previously, such income was only on the getty, but now the unprofitable SS has shown such income. All this is extremely strange and not fair. Most of the creators suffer from a lack of sales, and someone gets $ 800 for one video. SS breaks another bottom!
Have you seen Pace's port? I am guessing not, otherwise you wouldn't be saying things like this.
Same as the other guy I mentioned above, who is a filmmaker, has an IMBD bio, has his own production company, years of experience and expertise, and sells some of his surplus work on stock agencies.
I have tried duplicating the quality of some of these drone videos, (Zero Talent's videos included), and it takes top quality equipment, expert drone mastery, and great editing. Its very hard to do. That's why I am in awe of these guys.
Times have changed in the stock imagery industry. Mediocre and below quality work just doesn't cut it anymore to consistently earn the big dollars.
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
Whoah, indeed! Super well done, Pace!
Thanks Annie, and great to see you drop in the forum again!
I told you, you had what it takes. ;) Nice to see it all come to fruition.
(My husband Nick has been sick. He woke up one morning with the lefthand side of his face paralysed. It was such a shock - he only recently turned 50yo. But fortunately it wasnt a stroke. He has Bells Palsy. Doc not sure what caused it. Perhaps long working hours and stress, but possibly a virus - or maybe even a reaction to vacc. He cant work as well as he used to, so I've been helping out. It may be permanent or just temporary, just have to wait and see. Anyway, sorry to digress, I just wanted to let you know why I might not be around much.
I have been checking in on the forum occasionally, mainly for updates on Adobe PNGs, and then I saw your sale and had to congratulate you. BTW, I hope you and family have recovered after all the flooding. )
Annie, sorry to hear your husband is sick with this... I've never heard of this condition before! Totally understandable why you can't be around much. I join other forum members above to wish you and your husband the very best during this time. Our health definitely takes a priority post-50 years. I turned 52 in September.
My family just sold the house at East Hills where they had some four to five floods just this year 2022 and moved further out South West of Sydney. The home was owned by my dad since the mid-1950s so was very strange to see it go but there were just too many floods along the Georges River where the house and yard extending to the river was and they got tired of it.
And have to laugh at your realization of the title of this thread hahaha. ;D I thought it was good too.
hahaha (re the thread title)
What a shame about the family home. I am so sorry, Pace.
(Just had a quick peek of your port. Haven't looked at it for a while, and wow!)
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To Wilm and Cascoly - thank you so much guys. All the very best to you too!
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Times have changed in the stock imagery industry. Mediocre and below quality work just doesn't cut it anymore to consistently earn the big dollars.
On SS yes, on other stocks no. On other stocks, you can continue to consistently earn money. But here it’s not even about the quality of the portfolio, I was just surprised by the amount for the video, which no one had seen on this forum before. We never knew there were commissions like this on SS. And even more so at a time when the income of the majority decreased by 2-3 times.
And I do not think that you are right in your conclusions. The stock industry initially does not imply professionalism, it is an amateur market. Prices for stock content are far from the prices for professional work.
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Today for the first time ever I had a 3 digit sale - those do exists :)
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Nice! Not quite as impressive as yours, but the occasional decent sales still keep rolling in to help counter the $0.25 ones!
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Got a 3000$ sale yesterday, feels a bit over the top in terms of high sale, previous record was 600$ a couple of months back.
Any idea what kind of license is that?
editorial clip, not exclusive (the file is still live on site and on other sites as well and I was not asked to take it off).
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Got a 3000$ sale yesterday, feels a bit over the top in terms of high sale, previous record was 600$ a couple of months back.
Any idea what kind of license is that?
editorial clip, not exclusive (the file is still live on site and on other sites as well and I was not asked to take it off).
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I've only ever had those sorts of figures as negotiated buyouts. Congrats.
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Today for the first time ever I had a 3 digit sale - those do exists :)
Nice.
Also interesting is Council Bluffs likes some of my images too? It's a repeating location.
I had a sub to Wile E. Coyote yesterday Acme, United States $0.13 11/16/2022
Best of this month: Elk Grove, United States $40.50 11/4/2022
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Got a 3000$ sale yesterday, feels a bit over the top in terms of high sale, previous record was 600$ a couple of months back.
Any idea what kind of license is that?
editorial clip, not exclusive (the file is still live on site and on other sites as well and I was not asked to take it off).
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I've only ever had those sorts of figures as negotiated buyouts. Congrats.
I had offers in the past for the same amount for a buyout and it made sense for that amount, but for a non exclusive this is certainly a great sum.
Thank you.
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Got a 3000$ sale yesterday
Wow that's a great amount, congrats!
Really hard to imagine who would like to pay SS about 10.000 to have non exclusive clip, it's so high amount that it could be used for original production instead! Was your clip about an extremely rare subject?
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Got a 3000$ sale yesterday, feels a bit over the top in terms of high sale, previous record was 600$ a couple of months back.
You're lucky, lucky duck :D Congrats!
I, on the other hand, recently have only teeny tiny sales and none of big fat sales. But this is November, and for me November is always low in big fat sales...
Anyway... waiting for December to get what is mine :D
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Got a 3000$ sale yesterday
Wow that's a great amount, congrats!
Really hard to imagine who would like to pay SS about 10.000 to have non exclusive clip, it's so high amount that it could be used for original production instead! Was your clip about an extremely rare subject?
That’s what I don’t get, they could easily get that shot for…500-600$ by hiring someone to shoot it. Definitely not a rare subject, tons of similar options online. I was just lucky I guess.
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Got a 3000$ sale yesterday, feels a bit over the top in terms of high sale, previous record was 600$ a couple of months back.
You're lucky, lucky duck :D Congrats!
I, on the other hand, recently have only teeny tiny sales and none of big fat sales. But this is November, and for me November is always low in big fat sales...
Anyway... waiting for December to get what is mine :D
Pure luck with that clip, tons of other options online.
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Congrats! But what a nightmare if you get that on the first of January... and after making however many thousands of dollars from one sale, you're still on Level 1!
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That’s what I don’t get, they could easily get that shot for…500-600$ by hiring someone to shoot it. Definitely not a rare subject, tons of similar options online. I was just lucky I guess.
So probably time was the main factor. If someone is in big rush, money plays secondary role :)
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Congrats! But what a nightmare if you get that on the first of January... and after making however many thousands of dollars from one sale, you're still on Level 1!
Not complaining but I think they will deduct 10% tax, it showed “-“ in the location box and for me at least it means a sale in the U.S
Still, came in the right time, slow December is ahead and it will take me almost two months into 2023 to bounce back to level 4.
As this is a supportive post for SS I would like to take the opportunity to say that they always have been my number one earner (started uploading in 2014), my earnings at SS took a massive hit when covid started and then the new structure and reset, but they are still by far my best earners. I think the reset is a very good structure to support contributors that are deeply invested into a solid selling portfolio or for contributors that see it as a marathon and not as a random gig.
Reset is painful, subscription sales are painful and they dominate my sales chart, but I don’t see any other way for anyone to survive these days paying 25$+ for HD or 60$+ 4K. It was a hell of a ride as long as it lasted and I’m thankful for SS for delivering nonstop sales for 6 years (up to 2020), I bow down to the power of the industry in this business and accept that there’s no other way. I rather sell 30 clips totaling 30$ than a single 30$ sale, part of this is just the pride of knowing someone liked my work and actually will use it in his/her creation.
Sorry for the long reply.
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Got a 3000$ sale yesterday, feels a bit over the top in terms of high sale, previous record was 600$ a couple of months back.
You're lucky, lucky duck :D
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. ;)
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Congrats! But what a nightmare if you get that on the first of January... and after making however many thousands of dollars from one sale, you're still on Level 1!
i'd accept that nightmare any dream !
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Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. ;)
"chance favors the prepared mind" - Louis Pasteur
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Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. ;)
A quote from Seneca, but it sounds like a Rule Of Acquisition. It should be a Rule Of Acquisition!
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Got a 3000$ sale yesterday, feels a bit over the top in terms of high sale, previous record was 600$ a couple of months back.
Any idea what kind of license is that?
editorial clip, not exclusive (the file is still live on site and on other sites as well and I was not asked to take it off).
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Hammer! Never read about an amount like this before!
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Congratulations on that big sale. It makes my 800 sale look like pocket change. ;D
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(My husband Nick has been sick. He woke up one morning with the lefthand side of his face paralysed. It was such a shock - he only recently turned 50yo. But fortunately it wasnt a stroke. He has Bells Palsy.
Annie, I am sorry to hear this. I really hope that this condition is temporary and that he can recover soon.
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... I think the reset is a very good structure to support contributors that are deeply invested into a solid selling portfolio or for contributors that see it as a marathon and not as a random gig...
Couldn't disagree more. If they actually wanted to motivate contributors with a similar scheme they could have had a rolling 12 month target (if you sold X number in the last 12 months you are on level Y). They could even work it so they are making the same amount on their end.
A January reset is just cruel and makes no sense. Does anyone feel extra motivated come January first, or demoralised and p*ssed off? I firmly believe they just didn’t want to make the extra investment to implement the slightly more technically complex option.
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... I think the reset is a very good structure to support contributors that are deeply invested into a solid selling portfolio or for contributors that see it as a marathon and not as a random gig...
Couldn't disagree more. If they actually wanted to motivate contributors with a similar scheme they could have had a rolling 12 month target (if you sold X number in the last 12 months you are on level Y). They could even work it so they are making the same amount on their end.
A January reset is just cruel and makes no sense. Does anyone feel extra motivated come January first, or demoralised and p*ssed off? I firmly believe they just didn’t want to make the extra investment to implement the slightly more technically complex option.
If a contributor has a good solid quality and diversified portfolio, the reset is almost meaningless. a new contributor or growing contributor who plans to be here for the long run, shoots quality, invest time in research and dig into the industry will take a hit for a year or two and will also reach the meaningless reset point as well (if the industry survives).
I wish the reset wasn’t there and I’m not scared of competition, I guide new contributors and still encourage people to join in, but the first thing I tell them is that if they’re not fully committed to obsessively invest time into it, they shouldn’t bother opening an account (anywhere).
I definitely feel bad for small contributors with great portfolios, and there are many of them, great clips, very focused on a couple of subjects, but the limited market made the reset hurt them bad. That’s unfair, no doubt.
I’m very into the long tail strategy and I think it pays off very well (even now with all the market changes, structures, SS bought P5) there’s still solid income in this business.
I’ve made my adjustments to the market and responded quickly but responsibly to any “exciting news” email and there’s still good solid full time 1st world upper middle class money to make here every month and especially on Shutterstock!
Forget this 3000 sale, it took me nowhere in terms of BME, my numbers are down, this industry will keep smacking us in the head with “exciting news” emails, but I’m already deep into this obsession, was lucky enough to join in 2014, and lucky enough to be able to shoot stock regularly (I’m a videographer for a living and get great opportunities to legitimately shoot stock while I’m out there).
I feel bad for any fellow contributor that took a more dramatic hit from all these changes, people who relied on a steady predictable income which was possible until the new subs/structure/covid/reset days…but come on, You can’t ever trust an industry that you have zero control over. At my best of best months I never thought of doing just stock, I did it obsessively, I still do, but I will never let an algorithm dictated by a 20 year old trendy minded kid decide if there will be food on my table next month.
The only significant change is that I stopped and won’t make any Stock trips abroad, they used to be 100% guaranteed in terms of at least 3X return on investment but I don’t see them payoff these days. I take advantage of any free good opportunity that I get to shoot stock these days.
It will all die in the end, everything will be free, We have zero control over it, but there’s still good money to make for established portfolios.
One last very important thing, most contributors are obsessed about how much they are getting per download and overlook the number of downloads and exposure. I know for a fact that some contributors are earning twice as much in this reset/cheap downloads era. They just get more exposure and downloads.
I’m on the other side of the rope for now, less downloads and less income, but some old contributors are having a hell of a ride these days, and this is verified intel.
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I find that attitude really odd. Why not advocate for better conditions from the agencies? They are constantly pushing for better conditions for their end (less money for us). The competition from other contributors will be there either way, even if we get a fairer deal, so it isn't about fearing competition.
I am definitely not at the level where the “the reset is almost meaningless”. It takes 25000 dls to reach level six which takes me several months (with my old content; the only stuff SS gets from me). If you shoot through the levels in month 1 I can understand not caring.
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I find that attitude really odd. Why not advocate for better conditions from the agencies? They are constantly pushing for better conditions for their end (less money for us). The competition from other contributors will be there either way, even if we get a fairer deal, so it isn't about fearing competition.
I am definitely not at the level where the “the reset is almost meaningless”. It takes 25000 dls to reach level six which takes me several months (with my old content; the only stuff SS gets from me). If you shoot through the levels in month 1 I can understand not caring.
Contributors are scattered and powerless, this industry is heading to free downloads, advocating is useless unfortunately.
Level 4 is where the effect of the reset stops, If you hit level six at any point of the year, level 4 should take you two weeks into January, the reset have a minimal impact on you and once you reach level 5 you’re actually making more %.
Thank you for this communication, I rarely write here but I always follow, read and learn from members.
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Contributors are scattered and powerless, this industry is heading to free downloads, advocating is useless unfortunately.
Well we don't have to be really organised. I am not talking about advocating with words but voting with our content. We can be scattered and still not upload where we are paid poorly. IMHO we just need to stop treating the agencies collectively as one income stream.
Otherwise the only break on pay will be when it becomes unsustainable overall. Uploading everything everywhere makes fair treatment absolutely pointless from an agency’s perspective. They will get our work either way so why not race to be the one paying least and making most?
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Contributors are scattered and powerless, this industry is heading to free downloads, advocating is useless unfortunately.
Well we don't have to be really organised. I am not talking about advocating with words but voting with our content. We can be scattered and still not upload where we are paid poorly. IMHO we just need to stop
I admire your optimism and spirit.
I’m treating it with the harshest realism I can find. I literally shoot stock these days memorizing “you said you’ll keep doing it hardcore even if the crazy numbers will stop”. (Hoping for better days). I doubt if I will ever have a BME ever again anywhere but I know it is happening to others, and maybe it will flip back, no one knows and I have little hope for that to happen, but it’s an obsession, I shoot stock and it pays well even now.
I think the next step will be unlimited downloads across the board, same rates everywhere and possibly agencies will “rent” portfolios for a year ahead (a wider version of Adobe’s new model).
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I admire your optimism and spirit.
I’m treating it with the harshest realism I can find. I literally shoot stock these days memorizing “you said you’ll keep doing it hardcore even if the crazy numbers will stop”. (Hoping for better days). I doubt if I will ever have a BME ever again anywhere but I know it is happening to others, and maybe it will flip back, no one knows and I have little hope for that to happen, but it’s an obsession, I shoot stock and it pays well even now.
I like your attitude, it is very uplifting :) Could you tell me how big is your footage portfolio?
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...I doubt if I will ever have a BME ever again anywhere...
I guess the pessimism makes sense then. My BME overall was December 2021 (been uploading since 2006), hopefully I will beat it this December.
I also don’t rely on video as much as you do I think, though I have some in my portfolio. Video RPD has been sliding quickly since the micros started taking it.
Wish you all the best with it.
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I admire your optimism and spirit.
I’m treating it with the harshest realism I can find. I literally shoot stock these days memorizing “you said you’ll keep doing it hardcore even if the crazy numbers will stop”. (Hoping for better days). I doubt if I will ever have a BME ever again anywhere but I know it is happening to others, and maybe it will flip back, no one knows and I have little hope for that to happen, but it’s an obsession, I shoot stock and it pays well even now.
I like your attitude, it is very uplifting :) Could you tell me how big is your footage portfolio?
15K+ clips.
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...I doubt if I will ever have a BME ever again anywhere...
I guess the pessimism makes sense then. My BME overall was December 2021 (been uploading since 2006), hopefully I will beat it this December.
I also don’t rely on video as much as you do I think, though I have some in my portfolio. Video RPD has been sliding quickly since the micros started taking it.
Wish you all the best with it.
Thank you for the conversation and insights.
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(My husband Nick has been sick. He woke up one morning with the lefthand side of his face paralysed. It was such a shock - he only recently turned 50yo. But fortunately it wasnt a stroke. He has Bells Palsy.
Annie, I am sorry to hear this. I really hope that this condition is temporary and that he can recover soon.
Thanks sweetie. Very kind of you to reply. Hope everything is ok on KI. No storm damage or flooding. We're ok here, no damage.
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I find that attitude really odd. Why not advocate for better conditions from the agencies? They are constantly pushing for better conditions for their end (less money for us). The competition from other contributors will be there either way, even if we get a fairer deal, so it isn't about fearing competition.
I am definitely not at the level where the “the reset is almost meaningless”. It takes 25000 dls to reach level six which takes me several months (with my old content; the only stuff SS gets from me). If you shoot through the levels in month 1 I can understand not caring.
Yes, its a travesty. I understand what BigBubba is saying, and yes, a lot of us here are usually on at least L4 by the end of January, but its Stan P's legacy to stop contributors from climbing up the levels. God forbid that we should all end up permanently on the top levels like when he first started. But even a month or two of lost income is still lost income.
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Today for the first time ever I had a 3 digit sale - those do exists :)
Nice.
Also interesting is Council Bluffs likes some of my images too? It's a repeating location.
I had a sub to Wile E. Coyote yesterday Acme, United States $0.13 11/16/2022
Best of this month: Elk Grove, United States $40.50 11/4/2022
Well done.
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And I just want to say, for any disbelievers, I have seen another video commission from SS as large as Pace's.
To believe or not to believe is a personal matter, as in religion, the church. But a link to a screenshot of the income from the SS would be the best confirmation.
But all this is not very important, it is enough that we saw at least one screenshot in this thread. Previously, such income was only on the getty, but now the unprofitable SS has shown such income. All this is extremely strange and not fair. Most of the creators suffer from a lack of sales, and someone gets $ 800 for one video. SS breaks another bottom!
Have you seen Pace's port? I am guessing not, otherwise you wouldn't be saying things like this.
Same as the other guy I mentioned above, who is a filmmaker, has an IMBD bio, has his own production company, years of experience and expertise, and sells some of his surplus work on stock agencies.
I have tried duplicating the quality of some of these drone videos, (Zero Talent's videos included), and it takes top quality equipment, expert drone mastery, and great editing. Its very hard to do. That's why I am in awe of these guys.
Times have changed in the stock imagery industry. Mediocre and below quality work just doesn't cut it anymore to consistently earn the big dollars.
Thanks, Annie!
I would only want to add that when it comes to video editing, the most challenging and time-consuming activity, is not the shooting itself (that's a lot of fun, actually), nor the color grading. It's dealing with signs and billboards. In my experience, making a clip compatible with commercial requirements is significantly increasing its odds to attract big sales.
And all the best to Nick. Fast recovery!
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And I just want to say, for any disbelievers, I have seen another video commission from SS as large as Pace's.
To believe or not to believe is a personal matter, as in religion, the church. But a link to a screenshot of the income from the SS would be the best confirmation.
But all this is not very important, it is enough that we saw at least one screenshot in this thread. Previously, such income was only on the getty, but now the unprofitable SS has shown such income. All this is extremely strange and not fair. Most of the creators suffer from a lack of sales, and someone gets $ 800 for one video. SS breaks another bottom!
Have you seen Pace's port? I am guessing not, otherwise you wouldn't be saying things like this.
Same as the other guy I mentioned above, who is a filmmaker, has an IMBD bio, has his own production company, years of experience and expertise, and sells some of his surplus work on stock agencies.
I have tried duplicating the quality of some of these drone videos, (Zero Talent's videos included), and it takes top quality equipment, expert drone mastery, and great editing. Its very hard to do. That's why I am in awe of these guys.
Times have changed in the stock imagery industry. Mediocre and below quality work just doesn't cut it anymore to consistently earn the big dollars.
Thanks, Annie!
I would only want to add that when it comes to video editing, the most challenging and time-consuming activity, is not the shooting itself (that's a lot of fun, actually), nor the color grading. It's dealing with signs and billboards. In my experience, making a clip compatible with commercial requirements is significantly increasing its odds to attract big sales.
And all the best to Nick. Fast recovery!
Thanks Zero. I'm actually a bit blown away by all the kind thoughts and well wishes we received. Thanks again.
And yes! I forgot about all that extra work you do to remove trademarks, advertising, etc. As I said above, these types of royalties are typically for movies or big ad campaigns.
Removing trademarks or fixing blemishes in a moving video is painstaking work. Been there, done that. Not to be taken for granted.
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(My husband Nick has been sick. He woke up one morning with the lefthand side of his face paralysed. It was such a shock - he only recently turned 50yo. But fortunately it wasnt a stroke. He has Bells Palsy.
Annie, I am sorry to hear this. I really hope that this condition is temporary and that he can recover soon.
Thanks sweetie. Very kind of you to reply. Hope everything is ok on KI. No storm damage or flooding. We're ok here, no damage.
Good to hear that you haven't had any storm damage. It's been a crazy year with so much rain. Like an extended winter. No storm damage locally on KI. I only recently discovered a new waterfall here which looked amazing after heavy rain fall. I photographed it the old fashioned way on medium format film with a twin lens reflex.
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On a roll...
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On a roll...
Why not me :(
But congrats to you. :)
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Nice morning today :)
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$72 for a photo SOD last week.
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I just got $140 from a sale, today.
But not for a clip! For a photo! :o
This makes it my highest individual photo sale on SS.
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I just got $140 from a sale, today.
But not for a clip! For a photo! :o
This makes it my highest individual photo sale on SS.
Well done!
Yes, the highest I have ever received for a photo SOD is $140 as well.
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Congratulations!
I can remember a beautiful day when I sold two photos for $125 each. But I did not have 140 yet.
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Last year i had a $170,--
It was a photo, it was a nice one :)
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I had a sub to Wile E. Coyote yesterday Acme, United States
Out of curiosity, did the image happen to be of a road runner?
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I had a sub to Wile E. Coyote yesterday Acme, United States
Out of curiosity, did the image happen to be of a road runner?
I can't see anymore but it might have been this one?
(https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/large-group-chicken-filets-cooking-600w-1726473496.jpg)
I don't have any anvils, rockets, or explosives.
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receive for a video
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receive for a video
Nice, I got one video sale for 85$ yesterday.
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and on with the good news
received for a video
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and on with the good news
received for a video
How do you create such a display of statistics in your account? At the beginning, the amount, then the date, and it's all there. Or did you write the amount, date and make a screen yourself? This is how sales are not displayed in my account - the amount and the date next to it.
Make another screen where it will be clear that this is really a screenshot from the shutterstock account.
Yes, and I don't know of any such deductions now. For 4K? They would also provide a screenshot of the video.
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and on with the good news
received for a video
How do you create such a display of statistics in your account? At the beginning, the amount, then the date, and it's all there. Or did you write the amount, date and make a screen yourself? This is how sales are not displayed in my account - the amount and the date next to it.
Make another screen where it will be clear that this is really a screenshot from the shutterstock account.
Yes, and I don't know of any such deductions now. For 4K? They would also provide a screenshot of the video.
Dashboard
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and on with the good news
received for a video
How do you create such a display of statistics in your account? At the beginning, the amount, then the date, and it's all there. Or did you write the amount, date and make a screen yourself? This is how sales are not displayed in my account - the amount and the date next to it.
Make another screen where it will be clear that this is really a screenshot from the shutterstock account.
Yes, and I don't know of any such deductions now. For 4K? They would also provide a screenshot of the video.
Dashboard
There is no such thing there.
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and on with the good news
received for a video
How do you create such a display of statistics in your account? At the beginning, the amount, then the date, and it's all there. Or did you write the amount, date and make a screen yourself? This is how sales are not displayed in my account - the amount and the date next to it.
Make another screen where it will be clear that this is really a screenshot from the shutterstock account.
Yes, and I don't know of any such deductions now. For 4K? They would also provide a screenshot of the video.
Dashboard
There is no such thing there.
Another proof that you don't know what you are talking about.🙄
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and on with the good news
received for a video
How do you create such a display of statistics in your account? At the beginning, the amount, then the date, and it's all there. Or did you write the amount, date and make a screen yourself? This is how sales are not displayed in my account - the amount and the date next to it.
Make another screen where it will be clear that this is really a screenshot from the shutterstock account.
Yes, and I don't know of any such deductions now. For 4K? They would also provide a screenshot of the video.
Dashboard
There is no such thing there.
Dashboard
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and on with the good news
received for a video
How do you create such a display of statistics in your account? At the beginning, the amount, then the date, and it's all there. Or did you write the amount, date and make a screen yourself? This is how sales are not displayed in my account - the amount and the date next to it.
Make another screen where it will be clear that this is really a screenshot from the shutterstock account.
Yes, and I don't know of any such deductions now. For 4K? They would also provide a screenshot of the video.
Dashboard
There is no such thing there.
For those of us residing on Planet Earth there is. Your results from wherever you are, might vary.
https://submit.shutterstock.com/dashboard
See that map? Look on the right side. ::) (I removed numbers and the images sold)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KYwXYMtt/ss-map-2022-1203.jpg)
Why do I bother?
Another proof that you don't know what you are talking about.🙄
You can say that again? Oh you just did. ;)
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A thread for all your positive SS news and big-ish sales! I'll start... after a pretty poor summer, sales are back up to around the $200/$300 a month mark (I only have 292 videos there), and here's a pretty decent one from the end of October.
I think I just got an early Christmas gift.
SS sale: Ashburn, United States $150.00 12/9/2022 - that's an image, not a video.
I got the old screen in the morning, next login it was back to the atrocity screen.
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I have reached the $10,000.
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I have reached the $10,000.
Nice, how long since starting?
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My start was 2019.
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I have reached the $10,000.
Congrats! A nice milestone! May many more downloads follow!
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I have reached the $10,000.
Congrats. Well done!! Up to $20,000 :)
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I have reached the $10,000.
Nice work, does that come with anything from SS anymore? It used to mean .38 sub downloads (or maybe that was at $30,000 lifetime earnings, I can't remember. )
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I have reached the $10,000.
Nice work, does that come with anything from SS anymore? It used to mean .38 sub downloads (or maybe that was at $30,000 lifetime earnings, I can't remember. )
$10,000 was the highest level you could reach. Unfortunately! That was better at fotolia back then.
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Crossed $25k few days back
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Crossed $25k few days back
What size is your port? Looks like you have a solid video port there.
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Crossed $25k few days back
Congrats! Well done!
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Crossed $25k few days back
What size is your port? Looks like you have a solid video port there.
around 3000 videos
Crossed $25k few days back
Congrats! Well done!
Thanks, I liked your content, thought to create content like that. But my experience with Photos/illustrations is not good. So focusing only on videos
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Crossed $25k few days back
Great. Congrats!
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Crossed $25k few days back
Great. Congrats!
Thanks...
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As of 01/01/2023, sales on shutterstock are terrible. They are virtually non-existent. Stock is dead.
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Shutterstock is dead >:( . Almost all sales are 0.10 cents per sale.
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I have reached the $10,000.
Nice work, does that come with anything from SS anymore? It used to mean .38 sub downloads (or maybe that was at $30,000 lifetime earnings, I can't remember. )
Levels are by downloads, not income.
SS is my #2 now, but that means it's better than all the rest except Adobe.
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Shutterstock is dead >:( . Almost all sales are 0.10 cents per sale.
I am not sure is dead, it was my #2 for 2022, maybe dead for some contributors, but no dead for sure
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As of 01/01/2023, sales on shutterstock are terrible. They are virtually non-existent. Stock is dead.
Let me remind you in what topic you write here: "What a cool SS, how well he sells" If you are not satisfied with the income from the SS, then what are you doing in this thread? Create your own theme, like what an uncool SS, how bad he sells.
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Shutterstock is dead >:( . Almost all sales are 0.10 cents per sale.
I am not sure is dead, it was my #2 for 2022, maybe dead for some contributors, but no dead for sure
Outside the window is 2023. 8)
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Double post :o
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Shutterstock is dead >:( . Almost all sales are 0.10 cents per sale.
I am not sure is dead, it was my #2 for 2022, maybe dead for some contributors, but no dead for sure
Outside the window is 2023. 8)
Here we have year 2023 too:
In terms of revenue, shutter is still number 1 for me. I climbed to level 4 pretty quickly again. 8) 8)
We should perhaps agree that agencies can run differently depending on the portfolio.
Second place for me is Alamy and then comes Adobe.
But that's not why I'm constantly ranting about Adobe. ;)
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Not too shabby for a Monday afternoon...
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Getting many $1 video sales from last 2-3 months, not changing with level.
And also not a single $5+ video sale in last 15 video sales
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First big sale this year:
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First big sale this year:
Congrats...
my first day earnings in the month of February > next 13 days earnings
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It was a bad month, until...
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It was a bad month, until...
Wow, nice one and congrats on that mega sale
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Topic is inactive. Dead SS?
8)
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Subberstock is deep in Rotenbergese Turd Territory so far this month April 2023. Leading the way is Pond5 followed by Adobe Stock - which incidentally pulled a rabbit out of a hat with a pretty good video sale of $42.00 during the week.
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Highest sale this year on SS. And only one above $4
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My results generally agree with the survey in the right column. Adobe is ahead of SS.
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Bosh!
Nice start to the day.
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Bosh!
Nice start to the day.
Wow!!! More than impressing! May many more of those follow, Dave! :)
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Bosh!
Nice start to the day.
For photos or videos?
:o
>:(
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Bosh!
Nice start to the day.
For photos or videos?
:o
>:(
Editorial photo.
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Bosh!
Nice start to the day.
For photos or videos?
:o
>:(
Editorial photo.
What was in the photo? And where? ;)
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@Dave:
Thats a nice sale indeed - congrats! :D
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Bosh!
Nice start to the day.
Wow and congrats.
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Hey, I didn't want to make a new thread because of this. Anyone having problems with their earning summery missing sales?
Since this morning the amount of this month's earnings on the earning summery page and the unpaid earnings in the upper right corner on my dashboard show a different amount by around $60.
I thought the missing sale(s) would show up eventually, but it's been a while now and new sales keep dribbling in, but nothing to make up for the missing amount.
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Hey, I didn't want to make a new thread because of this. Anyone having problems with their earning summery missing sales?
Since this morning the amount of this month's earnings on the earning summery page and the unpaid earnings in the upper right corner on my dashboard show a different amount by around $60.
I thought the missing sale(s) would show up eventually, but it's been a while now and new sales keep dribbling in, but nothing to make up for the missing amount.
I also had around $20 more than what the sales states, I thought it was the contributor fund, but nothing is shown there.
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Yes just noticed this about 15 minutes ago.
$43.70 discrepancy.
This sort of system reporting issue has happened before.
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Yes, I have this too, and apparently most contributors have. Guess it's coming from the contributor fund, but they didn't update the earnings details (yet).
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Yep, same here... +50 $....
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Hey, I didn't want to make a new thread because of this. Anyone having problems with their earning summery missing sales?
Since this morning the amount of this month's earnings on the earning summery page and the unpaid earnings in the upper right corner on my dashboard show a different amount by around $60.
I thought the missing sale(s) would show up eventually, but it's been a while now and new sales keep dribbling in, but nothing to make up for the missing amount.
Oh thank the lord you posted this.
Yesterday I noticed I was $200 over what I'd earned for May so far and assumed something had gone wrong with last months earnings and that they'd either lost a load of dollars off last months pay (prior to sending it to me) or someone had taken a big chunk of my earnings.
I've emailed them about it but like you, there is no sign of any payments being made to me. No sign of any corrections to previous sales or new large sales being made. Just a mysterious amount which is either an incorrect balance from last month or, as you put it, a large payment received in May that is unaccounted for.
I'm hoping it's your explanation rather than my negative one on the assumption SS are good and * things up. Either way, I'm not alone in this strange balance thing! Cheers
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Last night I was shown $9.81 in unpaid revenue for May - in my dashboard it was $69.40.
Currently, the unpaid revenue shows $79.03, and the dashboard shows $71.10.
No idea what's going on there.
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Yes, I have this too, and apparently most contributors have. Guess it's coming from the contributor fund, but they didn't update the earnings details (yet).
I have opted out of Data deals long ago and still have around 250$ in unpaid. So probably it is one of numerous shutterstock bugs
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Yes, I have this too, and apparently most contributors have. Guess it's coming from the contributor fund, but they didn't update the earnings details (yet).
I have opted out of Data deals long ago and still have around 250$ in unpaid. So probably it is one of numerous shutterstock bugs
I'm also opted out as well. This sounds like (if it's not a mistake) an earnings correction from a previous unknown error.
Edit. Hopefully it won't be too long before I hear back from the finance team. I did receive an email from SS saying that they will be looking into the matter.
We shall see what happens next.
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I have also about 30$ extra, with no sign of sales. I hope it will not disappear :D.
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I have also opted out of Data deals, but let's not forget that Shutterstock only added the opt out option quite a while after they started doing the AI training data deals, so these might as well be payments for the time our images were used for AI training before we could even opt out, because SS only pays out the contributor fund money every 6 (?) months, so these could be payments from December 22.
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I was hoping it was a bug delaying bigger commission downloads because all I've seen this month is 2 x $1 video and 7 x 10 cent stills - complete rubbish.
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I suddenly have 3.68$ in unpaid earnings even though I haven't made any sales this year (deactivated the account on Jan 1). Now I will have to actually close the account to get my 3 dollars out ::)
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I've got an extra $3.53.
Hopefully it doesn't disappear as quickly as it arrived.
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I've got an extra $3.53.
Hopefully it doesn't disappear as quickly as it arrived.
Will you be buying the drinks for us tonight?
I'll have a tap water please.
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What a cool Pond, how well he sells...
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My highest video sale so far...
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My highest video sale so far...
Link to video. 8)
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It's an editorial video of some high school students working on a robotics project in a classroom
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English is not my language but, "How well he sells",
"he sells"? sounds so wrong.
Totally triggers me when I see the title. Quite apart from the fact that SS has cut the commissions so much that it looks like troll posting to me, I personally have about -80% and I've been boycotting the platform by not uploading anything anymore.
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My highest video sale so far...
Wow! Nice! Congrats to you! :)
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My highest video sale so far...
Wow! Nice! Congrats to you! :)
Thank you!
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My highest video sale so far...
Super, enjoy!! Must have made your day :)
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English is not my language but, "How well he sells",
"he sells"? sounds so wrong.
Totally triggers me when I see the title. Quite apart from the fact that SS has cut the commissions so much that it looks like troll posting to me, I personally have about -80% and I've been boycotting the platform by not uploading anything anymore.
Once upon a time, there was a big thread about poor sales on Shutterstock, which Stoker2014 was enjoying very much... but then a few people would occasionally pop in and mention that they had received a large sale, or sales were going well, and this enraged Stocker2014. It got too much for him and he lashed out, reprimanding one individual and telling them that the thread in question was only for complaining about Shutterstock, and that if people wanted to share positive comments about their sales at SS, then somebody should create a thread called "What a cool SS, how well he sells". And the rest, as they say... is history.
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My highest video sale so far...
Nice one! Thats $400 more than mine!
(Sadly the same video also sells for cents on there a lot now too)
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"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
;D
After a long wait, finally a good day on SS (best since August 2022):
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Yes, I had a good start to this month too (and best sales probably since November 2022) when these little gems popped in...
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I've got an extra $3.53.
Hopefully it doesn't disappear as quickly as it arrived.
Will you be buying the drinks for us tonight?
I'll have a tap water please.
We used to order breakfast and a glass of water. The local diner that we liked, has started charging $1 for water with a meal. :(
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I've got an extra $3.53.
Hopefully it doesn't disappear as quickly as it arrived.
Will you be buying the drinks for us tonight?
I'll have a tap water please.
We used to order breakfast and a glass of water. The local diner that we liked, has started charging $1 for water with a meal. :(
i'd find another diner
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I've got an extra $3.53.
Hopefully it doesn't disappear as quickly as it arrived.
Will you be buying the drinks for us tonight?
I'll have a tap water please.
We used to order breakfast and a glass of water. The local diner that we liked, has started charging $1 for water with a meal. :(
i'd find another diner
Rural, only place in town. ;D There's another in the next town North 4-5 miles. Up the highway, maybe 8 miles, is a little Mexican place that serves under cooked, cold eggs on a cold plate. Of course there are three McDonald's within 5 miles.
Next time I go out for breakfast if they say it's a buck for water, I'll just have nothing.
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Yes, yes, yes... keep them coming. :D
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Very nice!
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Very nice!
Yeah! :)
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Very nice!
Video?
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Very nice!
Video?
Video.
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Very nice!
Video?
Video.
Editorial?
What is the video about? :)
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Very nice!
Video?
Video.
Editorial?
What is the video about? :)
Commercial. An establishing shot with a bridge.
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Whoah.... I mean WHOAH!!!
Whoah, indeed! Super well done, Pace!
Thanks Annie, and great to see you drop in the forum again!
I told you, you had what it takes. ;) Nice to see it all come to fruition.
(My husband Nick has been sick. He woke up one morning with the lefthand side of his face paralysed. It was such a shock - he only recently turned 50yo. But fortunately it wasnt a stroke. He has Bells Palsy. Doc not sure what caused it. Perhaps long working hours and stress, but possibly a virus - or maybe even a reaction to vacc. He cant work as well as he used to, so I've been helping out. It may be permanent or just temporary, just have to wait and see. Anyway, sorry to digress, I just wanted to let you know why I might not be around much.
I have been checking in on the forum occasionally, mainly for updates on Adobe PNGs, and then I saw your sale and had to congratulate you. BTW, I hope you and family have recovered after all the flooding. )
One of our sons had Bells Palsy years ago. It wasn't stress or vaccines.
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I see money from AI. All received?
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it is not AI. it is last month unpaid earning has been added this month earnings.
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it is not AI. it is last month unpaid earning has been added this month earnings.
SS decided not to pay income for August? This was not the case before.
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it is a bug. i hope they will fix it soon.
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I had some image sales between 20 and 50 usd,every month until July.
all terrible sales since August,I really can't stand to see these 10c anymore.
Please Shutterstock stop,I can't stand to see 10c anymore,I also spend hours of work for a single piece of content,I can't see all this content go away for 10c anymore.
Please Shutterstock do something,get rid of these 10c,enough!
For the moment I'm forced to suspend uploads,I'll see how it goes in the next few months,but I certainly won't add anything new in the meantime.
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I had some image sales between 20 and 50 usd,every month until July.
all terrible sales since August,I really can't stand to see these 10c anymore.
Please Shutterstock stop,I can't stand to see 10c anymore,I also spend hours of work for a single piece of content,I can't see all this content go away for 10c anymore.
Please Shutterstock do something,get rid of these 10c,enough!
For the moment I'm forced to suspend uploads,I'll see how it goes in the next few months,but I certainly won't add anything new in the meantime.
be careful what you wish for - 5 cents is pretty exciting in SS land
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I had some image sales between 20 and 50 usd,every month until July.
all terrible sales since August,I really can't stand to see these 10c anymore.
Please Shutterstock stop,I can't stand to see 10c anymore,I also spend hours of work for a single piece of content,I can't see all this content go away for 10c anymore.
Please Shutterstock do something,get rid of these 10c,enough!
For the moment I'm forced to suspend uploads,I'll see how it goes in the next few months,but I certainly won't add anything new in the meantime.
be careful what you wish for - 5 cents is pretty exciting in SS land
For now, as mentioned,I have already suspended uploads to SS,yesterday I had a new storm of 10c,if they ever drop to 5c I will delete all my contents.
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I used to sell 50 photos per day. Now about 10 photos per day and mostly $0.10 per sale. I stopped selling my videos a few years ago due to drastic revenue decline because of cheap video subs. Yes, it's better than nothing.
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I used to sell 50 photos per day. Now about 10 photos per day and mostly $0.10 per sale. I stopped selling my videos a few years ago due to drastic revenue decline because of cheap video subs. Yes, it's better than nothing.
yes I remember,I also followed the SS forum and I saw all your reactions when the bomb thrown by SS exploded,like everyone else,I was shocked.
I too have noticed a decrease in the total number of sales on SS,which is depressing because I have been uploading content to agencies every day or so for almost 6 years now.
I believe that at least 20c minimum for subscription plans would already be more acceptable even if still not much,but 10c is truly obscene.
very probably soon I will become an exclusive Adobe Stock,even if there is no program for exclusivity,because on Adobe I see that my efforts are rewarded.
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My sales and revenue on SS have been increasing steadily as has the average rate per download which, this year, stands at $0.70. Yeah, I also get the $0.10 sales but they are in the minority and I've also had some big sales. In terms of total downloads and revenue, for me, SS continues to outperform Adobe. And my uploads are generally reviewed within 48 hours.
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My sales and revenue on SS have been increasing steadily as has the average rate per download which, this year, stands at $0.70. Yeah, I also get the $0.10 sales but they are in the minority and I've also had some big sales. In terms of total downloads and revenue, for me, SS continues to outperform Adobe. And my uploads are generally reviewed within 48 hours.
This month,by removing the Firefly bonus I earned 31.4 times more on Adobe compared to SS,and 42.8 times more with the Firefly bonus.
what else do you want me to tell you? :D
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for what its worth my modest portfolios see more image downloads on SS and about half as much revenue every month (compared to AS). total sales on AS are more than double SS with much fewer images (both sold and for sale). istock is in the middle but was much better than SS last month (also with many fewer images for sale).
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Shutterstock is not going as well as the previous three months but even with a slower month I had this sale drop in early last week...
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(https://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37417.0;attach=20090;image)
Was it filmed from a drone?
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(https://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37417.0;attach=20090;image)
Was it filmed from a drone?
Yes.
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Was on my way to bed but had to get back up to share this one that just popped in this evening. An editorial video cart sale....
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Was on my way to bed but had to get back up to share this one that just popped in this evening. An editorial video cart sale....
Excellent, congrats!
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Shutterstock is not going as well as the previous three months but even with a slower month I had this sale drop in early last week...
I had couple days ago a quite near amount of $102 for a clip. Shutterstock is terrible for the basic royalties, but I have to admit that I've never earned similar amount for single clip in any other agency
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Was on my way to bed but had to get back up to share this one that just popped in this evening. An editorial video cart sale....
WoW, grats ;D
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(https://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37417.0;attach=20090;image)
Was it filmed from a drone?
Yes.
To fly a drone over cities, do you get some kind of permission or can anyone fly? How much money does it cost to get a permit?
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@peacesetter congratulations!wonderful sales! :D
I suppose that on SS you can make good money with videos,I have recently started with videos too,for now I use an old GoPro6 which is 4K but rather limited,and my DSLR which however is only HD but more suitable for macros,and more.
I'm planning to buy a GoPro10 and a Sony video camera.
For the moment I have only sold a few HD videos.
A drone is also on my list! :)
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@pacesetter
I have never seen a video sale like this. Fantastic.
Now I miss having a Shutterstock port...
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I price my 4k videos at industry standard (used to be) $199 on Pond5. Because I’m all exclusive on Pond5, I get about $120 royalty. It happens regularly and I see no difference in number of sales when pricing at $129.
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10 sales a month or 300 sales a month...that is the eternal question ;)
One is a hobby, the other a business. With a 20k port.
eta
This month I will make around 400-450 dollars with around 3000 photos and a few videos.
And I have just started to upload again on a regular basis.
How much will I make with 15000 photos and 5000 videos?
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Take the rough with the smooth, I guess...
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well, one 105 dollar sale will certainly bring up the average return per download for video.
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Take the rough with the smooth, I guess...
Haha! I laughed at the contrast between the two sales! But congrats on the large one!
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(https://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37417.0;attach=20090;image)
Was it filmed from a drone?
Yes.
To fly a drone over cities, do you get some kind of permission or can anyone fly? How much money does it cost to get a permit?
That depends entirely on where you are in the world and potentially how heavy your drone is. Answers range from no to yes depending on that.
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A very nice day in September.
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Congrats!
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Very nice, congrats!
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What the point for buyer to pay $174 for photo on SS, when they can buy it for 10 cents?
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What the point for buyer to pay $174 for photo on SS, when they can buy it for 10 cents?
This video was paid for.
Although videos can also be bought inexpensively.
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Highest sale that I received till now...
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Highest sale that I received till now...
Congratulations 👏
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Congrats!
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Very nice - Grats!
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every time i see one of these in this tread i think it's a plant. so far this month i have a bunch of videos sold along with images on adobe totaling over $50 while SS hasn't cracked the $4 mark. exactly 0 videos sold and a handful of dimes in image sales. i would stop uploading if not for the keywording lookup that i then port over to other sites (though even that doesn't work as well as it used to).
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every time i see one of these in this tread i think it's a plant. so far this month i have a bunch of videos sold along with images on adobe totaling over $50 while SS hasn't cracked the $4 mark. exactly 0 videos sold and a handful of dimes in image sales. i would stop uploading if not for the keywording lookup that i then port over to other sites (though even that doesn't work as well as it used to).
Shutterstock is really beginning to struggle with both downloads and earnings. Even with a $123.90 sale earlier in November on Shutterstock, Adobe Stock is 21% ahead in earnings and 52% ahead in downloads.
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SS is almost dead! I haven't had a sale for several days.
There is no point in making comparisons between AS and SS... At least in my case there is a huuuge difference.
:o
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I think Jo Ann Snover said it best when commenting on the Shutterstock download number downtrend thread...
... there's only so far you can grow a business by looting your suppliers.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/members-only-discussion/shutterstock-downloads-number-downtrend/msg594582/#msg594582 (https://www.microstockgroup.com/members-only-discussion/shutterstock-downloads-number-downtrend/msg594582/#msg594582)
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So, the SS wasn’t cool for long.
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I guess we can still hang in there for the free keywording tool ;D
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every time i see one of these in this tread i think it's a plant. so far this month i have a bunch of videos sold along with images on adobe totaling over $50 while SS hasn't cracked the $4 mark. exactly 0 videos sold and a handful of dimes in image sales. i would stop uploading if not for the keywording lookup that i then port over to other sites (though even that doesn't work as well as it used to).
Shutterstock is really beginning to struggle with both downloads and earnings. Even with a $123.90 sale earlier in November on Shutterstock, Adobe Stock is 21% ahead in earnings and 52% ahead in downloads.
I have the same experience with SS. I was doing great till the end of September. Then downloads and earnings suddenly declined significantly and that has been continued into November. Something has happened. Is it a major change to the algorithm or is it something else?
Fortunately, AS continues to sell although the review process remains painful.
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I guess we can still hang in there for the free keywording tool ;D
I do and sometimes I don't upload them, I just use the free keywording tool. (https://i.postimg.cc/tRFt4dt9/thumb_up_40_color.gif)
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I can't confirm this for myself, my income situation was relatively constant in this period.
However, I have to admit that with over 1000 uploads I would have expected an increase over the year, especially as the new pictures are doing quite well.
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I can't confirm this for myself, my income situation was relatively constant in this period.
However, I have to admit that with over 1000 uploads I would have expected an increase over the year, especially as the new pictures are doing quite well.
same here, 3 mo running average stable over last 3 years. RPD $.6 to .8
and still 2-3x AS income
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I can't confirm this for myself, my income situation was relatively constant in this period.
However, I have to admit that with over 1000 uploads I would have expected an increase over the year, especially as the new pictures are doing quite well.
same here, 3 mo running average stable over last 3 years. RPD $.6 to .8
and still 2-3x AS income
Can confirm that too. Same RPD range, same relation to Adobe income.
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I guess we can still hang in there for the free keywording tool ;D
I do and sometimes I don't upload them, I just use the free keywording tool. (https://i.postimg.cc/tRFt4dt9/thumb_up_40_color.gif)
i like your style! that said you just have to click the submit button and maybe hope to get a few dimes rolling in.
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I can't confirm this for myself, my income situation was relatively constant in this period.
However, I have to admit that with over 1000 uploads I would have expected an increase over the year, especially as the new pictures are doing quite well.
same here, 3 mo running average stable over last 3 years. RPD $.6 to .8
and still 2-3x AS income
Can confirm that too. Same RPD range, same relation to Adobe income.
that's interesting... for the current month AS sales are 11x SS (in terms of $, though total downloads are also nearly double). maybe it's the type of content? age of portfolio? i dunno but uploading to SS feels like a wasted of time if not for the keywording tool and because $.10 is $.10 more than $0.
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Perhaps my situation can add some different perspective to current discussion. I have joined this industry last September, so I am quite a fresh contributor. However, since I've been doing photographs for many years now, I was able to get thousands of images accepted within short time. I focused on Adobe and SS, following advices from this forum. Currently I have almost the same number of files on both sites, equal to ~8000 (should be more than 10000 on Adobe, but I am not able to add anything for months, at this point I am not even trying, as waiting for a month just to get it rejected is ridicuolous).
Anyway, regarding competition between SS and Adobe, in opposition to what most of you say, I can see that SS is getting better and better each month, while Adobe is rather dissappointing me, with pretty much constant number of monthly sales since march (I expected significant growth, considering growth of my portfolio and widely reported here increase in their performance).
The number of sales on both sites is similar, with SS leading slightly this month. However, almost each month I am getting at least one good sale (~50$ for one photo downloaded) which significantly increases rpd and makes SS better than Adobe in terms of revenue.
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thanks for the insights, i'm glad SS is working for some people even though it's not really doing much for me
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Stop the Press. This just in.
Shutterstock and Adobe Stock are now neck-and-neck in the final run of the race with Shutterstock just 1.7% ahead in earnings. It's a tight race, that is changing on an hourly, even minutely basis.
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Funny! Exactly the same image - sold today at shutterstock and the day before yesterday at AS.
Still this is a lousy month!
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Funny! Exactly the same image - sold today at shutterstock and the day before yesterday at AS.
Still this is a lousy month!
Wow, I thought Adobe is done with commissions higher than ~$1, haven't seen them in the last couple of hundreds downloads. Congratulations.
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Funny! Exactly the same image - sold today at shutterstock and the day before yesterday at AS.
Still this is a lousy month!
Great commissions Wilm. Funny I had a commission last night of $26.61 on Shutterstock and figured it must be a video. Looked this morning and turns out was a photo (S&O) to my surprise.
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For me is the best November since i started microstock like 8 years ago, just a little better than last year but I can see a different trend in SS sales than usual, OD are selling very low in the last 2-3 months but I have a lot of S&O, like 20-30 sales daily with prices up to 5$ but the average is like 1$ per picture, probably they are sold on partner sites and not directly on SS.
My SS income is always double or more compared with Adobe, same portofolio on both.
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Me too, best SS November month ever, just sold a SO image this morning for $108, for example, a rare event. Strangely, even though I have images from many remote countries such as Namibia, Nepal, Burma, etc., my best-sellers are all from my hometown, Quebec City, or Montreal or the Quebec province.
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Me too, best SS November month ever, just sold a SO image this morning for $108, for example, a rare event. Strangely, even though I have images from many remote countries such as Namibia, Nepal, Burma, etc., my best-sellers are all from my hometown, Quebec City, or Montreal or the Quebec province.
Nice sale, I wonder if the majority of your sales are of localish things because SS search prioritizes local artists in the search. - good if you live near a large buying population and have local content. Not so good if most of your content is from somewhere else or you live in a fairly remote area. I did notice a drop when I changed my address from an urban area to a rural area.
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Strangely, even though I have images from many remote countries such as Namibia, Nepal, Burma, etc., my best-sellers are all from my hometown, Quebec City, or Montreal or the Quebec province.
Of course, I can only speak for myself, but I have exactly the same experience. Pictures from my surroundings work much better than my long-distance travel pictures from exotic places. On the one hand, I put this down to the fact that the competition is much smaller here, where demand is obviously high. I also think that I deliver better quality on location, only take pictures in good weather conditions and can offer different seasons.
Burma hasn't worked for me at all since 2021.
And congratulations on your sale, triple digits on Shutterstock is not that common.
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Me too, best SS November month ever, just sold a SO image this morning for $108, for example, a rare event. Strangely, even though I have images from many remote countries such as Namibia, Nepal, Burma, etc., my best-sellers are all from my hometown, Quebec City, or Montreal or the Quebec province.
Nice sale, I wonder if the majority of your sales are of localish things because SS search prioritizes local artists in the search. - good if you live near a large buying population and have local content. Not so good if most of your content is from somewhere else or you live in a fairly remote area. I did notice a drop when I changed my address from an urban area to a rural area.
Maybe I should shoot more local images. Thanks for the idea. And if I take a photo of a scenic view, without a distinct location, I should be adding my location to the keywords? I mean forest with Fall colors, who can tell if I took it here or 600 miles away. Trees in a woods are what they are?
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Yes, you should add the exact location in the title and the keywords. That noted, I have found that my best-sellers from my hometown Quebec City are more the famous buildings or locations (such as the Montmorency Falls) or sometimes very quaint traditional French-Style houses in nearby Island of Orleans. Photos taken at dawn with tripod and in the best light help of course, at the peak of Fall or Winter conditions. That said, this morning's $108 on SS sale was purchased in the USA and it was not of a famous Quebec City building at all, so you never know.
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just curious- do you use french keywords or titles? i've been wondering what that may do to results and if it makes sense to include other languages in certain situations.
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No, I do all my work in English, being fairly bilingual. It is excellent for my knowledge of the language, especially when I have to learn names of animals, birds, trees, architectural vocabulary, etc. in English. When my English titles appear to me translated in French because all my computer environment is French, I don't think the translator tool does a good job, so I would rather do everything in English.
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I have been installing SS for 10 months. So far, I have made high-priced sales worth $60 twice and $25 twice. Other than that, all sales were low-priced.
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The relationship between subscriptions and SODs is becoming increasingly bizarre! 2:10 yesterday. These days I hardly have any ODs anyway, Enhanced are now as rare as a total solar eclipse.
12 downloads is shameful. But it's very pleasing when this kind of income comes out of it!
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Nice sales for one day, Wilm. However, I see on average once a month a total solar eclipse ;)
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Nice sales for one day, Wilm. However, I see on average once a month a total solar eclipse ;)
Thanks a lot, Ralf.
I could be wrong, but my last enhanced probably came in around the same time as Winston Churchill came to power.
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Finally a big sale after many below-average weeks! :D
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Finally a big sale after many below-average weeks! :D
Nice!!! :)
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Nice one, grats! 8)
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Surprisingly, my December is already better than the whole November, helped by big sales like this.
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Surprisingly, my December is already better than the whole November, helped by big sales like this.
Oh, great!!!
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Nice surprise this morning.
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Nice surprise this morning.
Nice! :)
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I'm putting a 99% likelihood on this sale being fraud.
I'm just hoping i don't wake up one morning and find my entire account suspended for suspicious activity. There is no way that video is worth 1% of that fee.
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I'm putting a 99% likelihood on this sale being fraud.
I'm just hoping i don't wake up one morning and find my entire account suspended for suspicious activity. There is no way that video is worth 1% of that fee.
Congratulations! Very unlikely its fraud because fraudsters aren't going to pay big money to download an image / video for this purpose. Enjoy, nice Christmas present!
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I'm putting a 99% likelihood on this sale being fraud.
I'm just hoping i don't wake up one morning and find my entire account suspended for suspicious activity. There is no way that video is worth 1% of that fee.
Yeah! Fantastic!!!
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Congrats!!!
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Something suspicious is going on.
Same file just sold again today for roughly the same amount.
No idea how/what but something, somewhere is screwing around.
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I'm putting a 99% likelihood on this sale being fraud.
I'm just hoping i don't wake up one morning and find my entire account suspended for suspicious activity. There is no way that video is worth 1% of that fee.
WOW, congrats, never seen such a big sale, wondering if was sold under clip packs, enhanced video or cart sales.
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I'm putting a 99% likelihood on this sale being fraud.
I'm just hoping i don't wake up one morning and find my entire account suspended for suspicious activity. There is no way that video is worth 1% of that fee.
WOW, congrats, never seen such a big sale, wondering if was sold under clip packs, enhanced video or cart sales.
Its down as a "Cart Sale".
But a 100% chance of being fraud/scam/error as it sold again today for a similar amount.
(Previous record for me was $500 but that was legit).
Something bad is going on here.
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Sold moments ago (first time on SS)
I'm now level 4 for videos (30% commission), meaning the customer paid $522 for it (+taxes?).
Not bad!
A good month on SS!
PS. I also attached the video specs ... for those interested 😉
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I'm putting a 99% likelihood on this sale being fraud.
I'm just hoping i don't wake up one morning and find my entire account suspended for suspicious activity. There is no way that video is worth 1% of that fee.
What codec was your video loaded in?
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I'm putting a 99% likelihood on this sale being fraud.
I'm just hoping i don't wake up one morning and find my entire account suspended for suspicious activity. There is no way that video is worth 1% of that fee.
WOW, congrats, never seen such a big sale, wondering if was sold under clip packs, enhanced video or cart sales.
Its down as a "Cart Sale".
But a 100% chance of being fraud/scam/error as it sold again today for a similar amount.
(Previous record for me was $500 but that was legit).
Something bad is going on here.
In a nice way, I hope you're wrong and these are real sales. 8)
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Not Shutterstock, but Pond5 this morning. This sale was a single download. Really great if we see Pond5 pick up again.
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Not Shutterstock, but Pond5 this morning. This sale was a single download. Really great if we see Pond5 pick up again.
I had one today too.
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It started very nice on Pond5 this year, but sales have slowed down a lot there sadly since then. But this kind of premium, custom or business license sales aren't rare on Pond5 on a good month.
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… they are most common on IS and SS, but with sad royalty percentage for us…
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Best start of a month on SS for me so far 8)
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Best start of a month on SS for me so far 8)
Congrats!
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Best start of a month on SS for me so far 8)
Just let the month continue like this!!!
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I'm putting a 99% likelihood on this sale being fraud.
I'm just hoping i don't wake up one morning and find my entire account suspended for suspicious activity. There is no way that video is worth 1% of that fee.
What codec was your video loaded in?
Only just saw this on a random scroll. ProRes. Nothing special about it.