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Title: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: LouisPhotos on January 26, 2021, 08:49
What happen between december 2020 and january 2021. I know we all drop % to level 1 but where is the 2$ and more sell. every photo sell is 12 cent or 10 cent. Semething have change, buyer have the best plan and we dont sell at good price.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: Jens G on January 26, 2021, 09:31
I noticed that there are fewer of those too. Don't know if it's a coincidence.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: LouisPhotos on January 26, 2021, 09:35
25 % less each day of 2021, i am at 10% less royalty this years, making 100$ of more on 2020 and not 70$ ofter, I sell the same number of photo.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: LouisPhotos on January 26, 2021, 09:47
The sell is not there for the new photo impossible to new photo to rise from the old collection. Probably because shutterstock is on drop sell situation.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: trabuco on January 26, 2021, 10:14
Gone for the wind for me.

Almost all are under the 0.25.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: LouisPhotos on January 26, 2021, 12:03
thank you to adobe continue to help photographe to earn money with photo
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: Firn on January 26, 2021, 12:42
They have fallen victim to the Level reset.

While in December (Level 5) most of my On demand sales were over $3, now (Level 3) most of them are around 1-1,70$. I still had a few above 2 and also some Single & Other and Enhanced for more than that, but because of the lower percentage I get from each sale, obviously they are rarer.
I think this was to be expected.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: Astrantia on January 26, 2021, 13:02
Every single sale is 0.10 on my side.
Not one sale higher than 0.10.

This started in june or july and was the reason for me to deactivate my account for two months.
I later activated it again but don΄t upload any new stuff just keep the old stuff .

So I still have sales but never higher than 0.10
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: LouisPhotos on January 26, 2021, 13:15
ok thank for advice
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: medveh on January 26, 2021, 14:33
I am level 4 and the $$$ is not better. this is the reality of SS

1/18/21   –   –   –   –   –
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1/25/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/26/21   –   –   –   –   –

Take care in case you want to work with them in the future. You are not allowed to show your earnings publicly, lots of contributors got warned a month ago by SS.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: trabuco on January 26, 2021, 17:05
They don't want single small contributors anymore.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: Uncle Pete on January 27, 2021, 08:19
I am level 4 and the $$$ is not better. this is the reality of SS

1/18/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/19/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/20/21   –   –   –   –   –
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1/24/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/25/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/26/21   –   –   –   –   –

Take care in case you want to work with them in the future. You are not allowed to show your earnings publicly, lots of contributors got warned a month ago by SS.

Lots of contributors? How come people are still posting earnings on the SS forums, and nothing is said about that. Who are these lots of people, can you name some or how you know this fact?

What happen between december 2020 and january 2021. I know we all drop % to level 1 but where is the 2$ and more sell. every photo sell is 12 cent or 10 cent. Semething have change, buyer have the best plan and we dont sell at good price.

You get 12c sales, wow, lucky. Nothing but Dime Pay for me since the start of the year. Too bad that even at level 4 people will get the 10c downloads.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: medveh on January 27, 2021, 16:14
I am level 4 and the $$$ is not better. this is the reality of SS

1/18/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/19/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/20/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/22/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/23/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/24/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/25/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/26/21   –   –   –   –   –

Take care in case you want to work with them in the future. You are not allowed to show your earnings publicly, lots of contributors got warned a month ago by SS.

Lots of contributors? How come people are still posting earnings on the SS forums, and nothing is said about that. Who are these lots of people, can you name some or how you know this fact?

https://backyardsilver.com/shutterstock-enforcing-their-restriction-on-sharing-earnings/ (https://backyardsilver.com/shutterstock-enforcing-their-restriction-on-sharing-earnings/)
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: Uncle Pete on January 27, 2021, 17:08
I am level 4 and the $$$ is not better. this is the reality of SS

1/18/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/19/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/20/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/22/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/23/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/24/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/25/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/26/21   –   –   –   –   –

Take care in case you want to work with them in the future. You are not allowed to show your earnings publicly, lots of contributors got warned a month ago by SS.

Lots of contributors? How come people are still posting earnings on the SS forums, and nothing is said about that. Who are these lots of people, can you name some or how you know this fact?

https://backyardsilver.com/shutterstock-enforcing-their-restriction-on-sharing-earnings/ (https://backyardsilver.com/shutterstock-enforcing-their-restriction-on-sharing-earnings/)

Yes and? One guy on Youtube says he had his account uploading blocked, which was re-opened. The same guy was also blocked at Adobe, and re-opened. And everyone jumps into panic mode? You did read the page you linked to, right?

"Steven Heap
December 7, 2020 at 9:12 am   

I may have over-reacted"

"Steven Heap
December 24, 2020 at 3:47 pm   

It probably was a storm in a teacup, but I did think of that as an option (as well as Agency X…) I doubt if they are really that bothered. We will have to see!"

Notice how Steve is a reasonable guy and says maybe over reacted, wait and see.

So I'll ask again? Lots of contributors?

So far it's one and he never disclosed why, just posted his Youtube crying on his PAY site, where he got thousands of views as the link was spread around by people who took the troll bait and ran to the forums, spreading rumors. As a result the guy who started this is gaining new subscribers for his How To Make Money on Microstock site.

ps it's in the terms of our contract, that all the contributors have agreed to.

My point is about the frustration of embellished rumors and false claims and a bunch of "someone says" which then gets passed around and repeated, as if it's the truth. I think we all should be more cautious about checking before some troll post gets blown up into a warning alert.

I watched this video yesterday.

https://youtu.be/Dfqp9xD188A (https://youtu.be/Dfqp9xD188A)

"This video tells you about the outcome what can happen if you disclose your stock photography earnings publicly. Even sharing screenshots or writing about your earning in any post or blog is a violation of Shutterstock terms of service and will get your account banned!"

Has any also experienced account disabling for this reason?

A reasonable question, has anyone else? This started on Dec. 6th. Not one person came forward with a similar situation.

Beth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBWadhNrM0c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBWadhNrM0c)

"How much money can you actually make as a stock contributor? I'm sharing a monthly income report of exactly how much I made selling my own stock photos and videos on Shutterstock, Adobe Stock, and Pond5 for the month of November 2020."

Hmm, she's not banned or blocked?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MCHUvtc_So (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MCHUvtc_So)  He's not banned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsS1L1hUJ9I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsS1L1hUJ9I) He's not banned

Oh wait here's another one... The Teaching Doc  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVfPHIdBh1M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVfPHIdBh1M)

This video shows my total income from Stock Photography Earnings in September 2020.

Wait? He never removed the video that he claims was the cause of his account being locked?

Yeah I'm calling his BS and claims, because he isn't "banned" he's still on SS.

My plea is, before people report rumors as facts and say this has happened to lots of people, that they actually look and see what the facts are and blow off Youtube trolls like this guy. Don't feed him new customers. (which I probably just did, so now I'm guilty of doing what I'm trying to oppose.)  :)

Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: medveh on January 28, 2021, 09:28
I am level 4 and the $$$ is not better. this is the reality of SS

1/18/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/19/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/20/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/22/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/23/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/24/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/25/21   –   –   –   –   –
1/26/21   –   –   –   –   –

Take care in case you want to work with them in the future. You are not allowed to show your earnings publicly, lots of contributors got warned a month ago by SS.

Lots of contributors? How come people are still posting earnings on the SS forums, and nothing is said about that. Who are these lots of people, can you name some or how you know this fact?

https://backyardsilver.com/shutterstock-enforcing-their-restriction-on-sharing-earnings/ (https://backyardsilver.com/shutterstock-enforcing-their-restriction-on-sharing-earnings/)

Yes and? One guy on Youtube says he had his account uploading blocked, which was re-opened. The same guy was also blocked at Adobe, and re-opened. And everyone jumps into panic mode? You did read the page you linked to, right?

"Steven Heap
December 7, 2020 at 9:12 am   

I may have over-reacted"

"Steven Heap
December 24, 2020 at 3:47 pm   

It probably was a storm in a teacup, but I did think of that as an option (as well as Agency X…) I doubt if they are really that bothered. We will have to see!"

Notice how Steve is a reasonable guy and says maybe over reacted, wait and see.

So I'll ask again? Lots of contributors?

So far it's one and he never disclosed why, just posted his Youtube crying on his PAY site, where he got thousands of views as the link was spread around by people who took the troll bait and ran to the forums, spreading rumors. As a result the guy who started this is gaining new subscribers for his How To Make Money on Microstock site.

ps it's in the terms of our contract, that all the contributors have agreed to.

My point is about the frustration of embellished rumors and false claims and a bunch of "someone says" which then gets passed around and repeated, as if it's the truth. I think we all should be more cautious about checking before some troll post gets blown up into a warning alert.

I watched this video yesterday.

https://youtu.be/Dfqp9xD188A (https://youtu.be/Dfqp9xD188A)

"This video tells you about the outcome what can happen if you disclose your stock photography earnings publicly. Even sharing screenshots or writing about your earning in any post or blog is a violation of Shutterstock terms of service and will get your account banned!"

Has any also experienced account disabling for this reason?

A reasonable question, has anyone else? This started on Dec. 6th. Not one person came forward with a similar situation.

Beth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBWadhNrM0c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBWadhNrM0c)

"How much money can you actually make as a stock contributor? I'm sharing a monthly income report of exactly how much I made selling my own stock photos and videos on Shutterstock, Adobe Stock, and Pond5 for the month of November 2020."

Hmm, she's not banned or blocked?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MCHUvtc_So (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MCHUvtc_So)  He's not banned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsS1L1hUJ9I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsS1L1hUJ9I) He's not banned

Oh wait here's another one... The Teaching Doc  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVfPHIdBh1M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVfPHIdBh1M)

This video shows my total income from Stock Photography Earnings in September 2020.

Wait? He never removed the video that he claims was the cause of his account being locked?

Yeah I'm calling his BS and claims, because he isn't "banned" he's still on SS.

My plea is, before people report rumors as facts and say this has happened to lots of people, that they actually look and see what the facts are and blow off Youtube trolls like this guy. Don't feed him new customers. (which I probably just did, so now I'm guilty of doing what I'm trying to oppose.)  :)

Great, what can I say, I'm happy no one got banned for real for this reason. I'm sorry if anyone felt that my intention was to scare people. I was just trying to be helpful.
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: Uncle Pete on January 28, 2021, 12:54
Great, what can I say, I'm happy no one got banned for real for this reason. I'm sorry if anyone felt that my intention was to scare people. I was just trying to be helpful.

 8) (https://i.postimg.cc/dttsYRZ0/thumbs-up-100.jpg)  (https://i.postimg.cc/YqC3vC8g/cheers.gif)

Personal futile crusade on my part, asking people to think or check before they spread warnings and rumors. Never anything personal. There's enough of bad things going on in Microstock to have disinformation piled on top!  :)


Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: cascoly on January 28, 2021, 21:21
Great, what can I say, I'm happy no one got banned for real for this reason. I'm sorry if anyone felt that my intention was to scare people. I was just trying to be helpful.

 8) (https://i.postimg.cc/dttsYRZ0/thumbs-up-100.jpg)  (https://i.postimg.cc/YqC3vC8g/cheers.gif)

Personal futile crusade on my part, asking people to think or check before they spread warnings and rumors. Never anything personal. There's enough of bad things going on in Microstock to have disinformation piled on top!  :)

unfortunately not the only place it's happening - a significant % of US believes in lizard people & way too many still deny the reality of evolution - what change do climate change & vaccine safety have?
Title: Re: what happen to the sell 2$ and more
Post by: Uncle Pete on January 29, 2021, 11:05
Great, what can I say, I'm happy no one got banned for real for this reason. I'm sorry if anyone felt that my intention was to scare people. I was just trying to be helpful.

 8) (https://i.postimg.cc/dttsYRZ0/thumbs-up-100.jpg)  (https://i.postimg.cc/YqC3vC8g/cheers.gif)

Personal futile crusade on my part, asking people to think or check before they spread warnings and rumors. Never anything personal. There's enough of bad things going on in Microstock to have disinformation piled on top!  :)

unfortunately not the only place it's happening - a significant % of US believes in lizard people & way too many still deny the reality of evolution - what change do climate change & vaccine safety have?

I know what the problem is, it's called the Internet.  ;D


Education can't stop misinformation and rumors. Can't stop misguided people or flat out lies. But at least if people are aware and learn to use their brian, and use some level of critical thinking when they read, maybe some change will happen. But I admit I'm an optimist and people don't really want the truth sometimes, it's boring and doesn't create conversation.

(https://i.postimg.cc/KcQ7J4Yx/how-to-spot-fake-news-ifla.jpg)

People still believe there's a Bermuda Triangle, that Gods from outer space visited us, that Nessy is real, and other mythical cryptozoology fables. They think the pyramids weren't built by the Egyptians, that there are UFOs with visitors from space, who come millions of miles, to abduct us and look up our butts? Common knowledge includes bits of "everyone knows" that are wrong, but people still want to believe them, so they defend and use denial, instead of opening their minds to possibilities of the facts or truth.

So why wouldn't you expect much simpler things like evolution, or denial of the holocaust to be accepted by weak minds? Driven by religion or politics. Highly emotional issues that are driven into peoples head, because they are falling to the peer pressure of their particular beliefs.

And to me, politics have become religion, where the answer is, you either belong and accept or you are some sort of outsider or heretic. There's no accepting that the other side actually has some valid points or we can agree on some things. Party line or nothing. Sounds like blind faith to me?