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« on: January 09, 2014, 05:04 »
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Lately I got a lot of totally random rejections for the whole batch. I thought it was the reviewer having a bad day. But twice is ridiculous.



for focus

Day time shot, 55mm f/11 iso 100 literally all things in the image are focused and sharp. Also submitted at 12mp



for composition
seriously?

The whole batch was rejected like this. What should I do about this?


fritz

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 05:10 »
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What about this
Rejection Reason:
"Trademark--Image potentially infringes on intellectual property rights."

Ron

« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 05:18 »
+1
the lollypop is most likely too small in the frame. If you have too much white space, the buyer end up with only a very small image once its lifted from the background. Crop the white space and it should be ok.

« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 05:41 »
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What about this
Rejection Reason:
"Trademark--Image potentially infringes on intellectual property rights."


Whoa, ridiculous. I just saw another post about inconsistent reviewing.  This seems to be pandemic... We ought to do something since this wastes a lot of time.

the lollypop is most likely too small in the frame. If you have too much white space, the buyer end up with only a very small image once its lifted from the background. Crop the white space and it should be ok.

Ron, it is already cropped the background is just white so it looks square. : ( If I crop a bit more it will not be usable as-is when bought. I will try anyways, thanks.

« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 07:31 »
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the lollypop is most likely too small in the frame. If you have too much white space, the buyer end up with only a very small image once its lifted from the background. Crop the white space and it should be ok.

I second that.

« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 07:33 »
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What about this
Rejection Reason:
"Trademark--Image potentially infringes on intellectual property rights."


it could (very unlikely) be a trademark, but if you add a side note, ot explain in the title, where you got it from, it may get in

fritz

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 07:51 »
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What about this
Rejection Reason:
"Trademark--Image potentially infringes on intellectual property rights."


it could (very unlikely) be a trademark, but if you add a side note, ot explain in the title, where you got it from, it may get in
I didn't get it I made it :) but it's ok. Usually when file rejected don't complain but this rejection reason don't understand! Never mind.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 08:59 »
+2
We always need to complain when we have unfair rejections
Systematically!

And not only complain, but sent them the links on msg forum where people complain.

Only in this way they will (maybe) understand that we are not happy of these continuous inconsistent rejections and that they have a problem with some inspectors not doing their job correctly.

For 0,33 or 0,36 per image we can claim more respect!

Fundamentally we pay them (a lot) to make a bad work
It is not fair!
« Last Edit: January 09, 2014, 09:01 by Beppe Grillo »

« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 09:01 »
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it happened to me recently as well: the whole batch (of about 15 images) rejected but with different reasons... I believe there are different guys there who have different approaches to the problem of quality... in fact this is the human eye that accepts our files, not a machine... and it simply shows how subjective the issue is...
how about submitting the batch again in couple of weeks? :)

« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2014, 09:11 »
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maybe reviewer just do not like you personally?

  ;D ;D

« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2014, 09:22 »
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We always need to complain when we have unfair rejections
Systematically!

And not only complain, but sent them the links on msg forum where people complain.

Only in this way they will (maybe) understand that we are not happy of these continuous inconsistent rejections and that they have a problem with some inspectors not doing their job correctly.

For 0,33 or 0,36 per image we can claim more respect!



Fundamentally we pay them (a lot) to make a bad work
It is not fair!

Respect?

Wellcome to the commercial world, where people suck eachothers blood. There is no such thing as respect it is all about power, and we contributers are powerless.

it compares to grow tomatoes for the market.
Sometimes the weather is bad, there can even be frost, sometimes conditions are good and everybody grows a lot of tomatoes and bring them to the market.
But on the market they can only sell so and so much.
Sometimes the customers buy peppers and pineables instead of tomatoes.
Sometimes there is a fungus.
But worst is, when the market is manipulated and 5 tomato farmers bring their supertomatos in. And everybody else is left at the city gates with their tomatoes to rot.
The stockphotography world is the real world, there is supercompetition, pirates, and fungus.

Its all random, and you have to be both lucky and clever to play a role.

More lucky than clever, that is sad.
And power and respect? you wont ever get as long as there are 3 billion cameras out there and only 3 agencies.
Buy shares in copper mines instead.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2014, 09:29 by JPSDK »

ruxpriencdiam

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2014, 09:46 »
-1
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134469

Now if you do as stated in the above link you will get the answers you need.

Post here and follow the posting instructions.

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4


« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2014, 10:32 »
+11
As I posted earlier in another thread, I've given up and don't intend to submit any more until things start making sense again. I don't expect many others to do the same, but for me, it's no longer worth the aggravation for those tiny returns.

And I'm not really expecting things to change.  We're in the final stages of oversupply, where SS believes they can simply cherry-pick images they want, while at the same time announcing new 35-cent "deals" like the one with FB

Meanwhile, I get emails from them about how I can become a better photographer.


« Last Edit: January 09, 2014, 10:34 by stockastic »

« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2014, 11:36 »
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http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134469

Now if you do as stated in the above link you will get the answers you need.

Post here and follow the posting instructions.

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4


Ruxpriencdiam, Thanks! I've seen it but I'm not asking for that kind of help and I'm way past newb period. I teach occasionally so I know what I'm doing.

The landscape was taken with 24-105L at f/11 on 5D3 I know it's not the sharpest lens but it is generally acceptable. I could use f/16 but that's asking for diffraction. There's no camera shake. Dust particles are removed with cpl.

It's just that there're some reviewers who love reject button rampage. If I were to submit it again it would likely be accepted. I know this because I have done before but it wastes a lot of time. Time that I should be uploading more images. There used to be weird rejections in the past but it's a bit too much now.  SS may be trying to cut down new files but this is not the right way.

What I'm doing is "complaining" hoping to get some attentions, some changes.

« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2014, 11:49 »
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I also noticed shutter stock doesn't like to accept medium quality photos anymore. I guess we have to improve ourselves, too.  ;D ;D ;D

I know those images are lazy especially lollipop ones but they do sell.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2014, 13:01 »
+1
We always need to complain when we have unfair rejections
Systematically!

And not only complain, but sent them the links on msg forum where people complain.

Only in this way they will (maybe) understand that we are not happy of these continuous inconsistent rejections and that they have a problem with some inspectors not doing their job correctly.

For 0,33 or 0,36 per image we can claim more respect!



Fundamentally we pay them (a lot) to make a bad work
It is not fair!

Respect?

Wellcome to the commercial world, where people suck eachothers blood. There is no such thing as respect it is all about power, and we contributers are powerless.

it compares to grow tomatoes for the market.
Sometimes the weather is bad, there can even be frost, sometimes conditions are good and everybody grows a lot of tomatoes and bring them to the market.
But on the market they can only sell so and so much.
Sometimes the customers buy peppers and pineables instead of tomatoes.
Sometimes there is a fungus.
But worst is, when the market is manipulated and 5 tomato farmers bring their supertomatos in. And everybody else is left at the city gates with their tomatoes to rot.
The stockphotography world is the real world, there is supercompetition, pirates, and fungus.

Its all random, and you have to be both lucky and clever to play a role.

More lucky than clever, that is sad.
And power and respect? you wont ever get as long as there are 3 billion cameras out there and only 3 agencies.
Buy shares in copper mines instead.

It is too much easy to do nothing and then invoque the reason that we cannot do nothing to continue to do nothing
Fatalitas

The world goes like this because too much people think in this way and always accept the status quo.
History is full of terrible examples of this

And telling that we cannot do nothing or cannot change it, we will surely not change nothing

If you want the respect that they don't give you, you have to fight to get it, it has always been like this from the beginnings of times.
If you don't fight to get it you don't even deserve it, and you have absolutely no right to complain then.

If you don't fight to get respect you don't even respect yourself.
And it is more important to fight to claim the respect you deserve than to get the respect itself, because this makes the difference between to be a free human or to be a slave (or an animal).

It is a question of dignity, when you lose your dignity you lose your humanity.

_____
About luck did you never notice that the persons having more luck are always the same?

_____
I will buy rare metals shares, it is better than cooper :)



« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2014, 13:53 »
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3 billion cameras out there and only 3 agencies.

Serious question: Which are the 3 agencies in your opinion ?

Or was that a joke ?

Seems to me that there are many more than that + all of the independent agents who are still doing well.


« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2014, 14:26 »
-1
We always need to complain when we have unfair rejections
Systematically!

And not only complain, but sent them the links on msg forum where people complain.

Only in this way they will (maybe) understand that we are not happy of these continuous inconsistent rejections and that they have a problem with some inspectors not doing their job correctly.

For 0,33 or 0,36 per image we can claim more respect!



Fundamentally we pay them (a lot) to make a bad work
It is not fair!

Respect?

Wellcome to the commercial world, where people suck eachothers blood. There is no such thing as respect it is all about power, and we contributers are powerless.

it compares to grow tomatoes for the market.
Sometimes the weather is bad, there can even be frost, sometimes conditions are good and everybody grows a lot of tomatoes and bring them to the market.
But on the market they can only sell so and so much.
Sometimes the customers buy peppers and pineables instead of tomatoes.
Sometimes there is a fungus.
But worst is, when the market is manipulated and 5 tomato farmers bring their supertomatos in. And everybody else is left at the city gates with their tomatoes to rot.
The stockphotography world is the real world, there is supercompetition, pirates, and fungus.

Its all random, and you have to be both lucky and clever to play a role.

More lucky than clever, that is sad.
And power and respect? you wont ever get as long as there are 3 billion cameras out there and only 3 agencies.
Buy shares in copper mines instead.

It is too much easy to do nothing and then invoque the reason that we cannot do nothing to continue to do nothing
Fatalitas

The world goes like this because too much people think in this way and always accept the status quo.
History is full of terrible examples of this

And telling that we cannot do nothing or cannot change it, we will surely not change nothing

If you want the respect that they don't give you, you have to fight to get it, it has always been like this from the beginnings of times.
If you don't fight to get it you don't even deserve it, and you have absolutely no right to complain then.

If you don't fight to get respect you don't even respect yourself.
And it is more important to fight to claim the respect you deserve than to get the respect itself, because this makes the difference between to be a free human or to be a slave (or an animal).

It is a question of dignity, when you lose your dignity you lose your humanity.

_____
About luck did you never notice that the persons having more luck are always the same?

_____
I will buy rare metals shares, it is better than cooper :)

yes we should fight. But it is not easy on the net, there are too many screw breakers.
I fought istock at d-day, but many people didnt, and i still see new people come here for advice to how to get in. And they get that advice. We are not united, so we cannt put any pressure on them.

« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2014, 14:27 »
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3 billion cameras out there and only 3 agencies.

Serious question: Which are the 3 agencies in your opinion ?

Or was that a joke ?

Seems to me that there are many more than that + all of the independent agents who are still doing well.
i didnt mean the numbers litterally.

« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2014, 14:45 »
+3
It might be more honest to have a category that says "I'm not really that keen on the picture which is technically Ok but doesn't enhance the site's content" after all with over 20m pics they can afford to be picky

« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2014, 17:36 »
+2
It's funny: I average 90% approval on Shutterstock and I just had a batch of 10 rejected. I've been submitting to Shutterstock for 8 years off and on and I'm pretty sure I've never had a whole batch rejected. I think there must be a rogue editor out there.

« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2014, 18:00 »
+2
It might be more honest to have a category that says "I'm not really that keen on the picture which is technically Ok but doesn't enhance the site's content" after all with over 20m pics they can afford to be picky

Exactly!!

« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2014, 19:27 »
+3
Somebody suggested that the bizarre rejections might be connected with the free month trial at skillfeed. To get as many people to sign up there as possible. If true, this would be really ridiculous. Im preparing a small batch, but i will hold back the other files until the situation calms down.

At least we have other agencies who are happy to sell our files.

My videos are being inspected normally, at least something I can work on.

« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2014, 21:01 »
+2
We always need to complain when we have unfair rejections
Systematically!

And not only complain, but sent them the links on msg forum where people complain.

Only in this way they will (maybe) understand that we are not happy of these continuous inconsistent rejections and that they have a problem with some inspectors not doing their job correctly.

For 0,33 or 0,36 per image we can claim more respect!



Fundamentally we pay them (a lot) to make a bad work
It is not fair!

Respect?

Wellcome to the commercial world, where people suck eachothers blood. There is no such thing as respect it is all about power, and we contributers are powerless.

it compares to grow tomatoes for the market.
Sometimes the weather is bad, there can even be frost, sometimes conditions are good and everybody grows a lot of tomatoes and bring them to the market.
But on the market they can only sell so and so much.
Sometimes the customers buy peppers and pineables instead of tomatoes.
Sometimes there is a fungus.
But worst is, when the market is manipulated and 5 tomato farmers bring their supertomatos in. And everybody else is left at the city gates with their tomatoes to rot.
The stockphotography world is the real world, there is supercompetition, pirates, and fungus.

Its all random, and you have to be both lucky and clever to play a role.

More lucky than clever, that is sad.
And power and respect? you wont ever get as long as there are 3 billion cameras out there and only 3 agencies.
Buy shares in copper mines instead.

It is too much easy to do nothing and then invoque the reason that we cannot do nothing to continue to do nothing
Fatalitas

The world goes like this because too much people think in this way and always accept the status quo.
History is full of terrible examples of this

And telling that we cannot do nothing or cannot change it, we will surely not change nothing

If you want the respect that they don't give you, you have to fight to get it, it has always been like this from the beginnings of times.
If you don't fight to get it you don't even deserve it, and you have absolutely no right to complain then.

If you don't fight to get respect you don't even respect yourself.

And it is more important to fight to claim the respect you deserve than to get the respect itself, because this makes the difference between to be a free human or to be a slave (or an animal).

It is a question of dignity, when you lose your dignity you lose your humanity.

_____
About luck did you never notice that the persons having more luck are always the same?

_____
I will buy rare metals shares, it is better than cooper :)

I completely agree, we are not powerless unless we choose to give away our power!

« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2014, 23:23 »
+4
Unfortunately there would never be enough critical mass of contributors to make a dent in influencing the decisions of the likes of a successful micro who is less than fair to their contributors. And I mean it is unfortunate.


 

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