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Title: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Ronib on June 23, 2019, 16:55
It looks like june is going to be my worst month on shutterstock and i cant understand why?
Anyone else?
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sammy the Cat on June 23, 2019, 17:18
Yup  a pretty crap month but its the same with Adobe and Alamy.

If nothing big comes up in this last week it'll be my worst revenue since Christmas 2017 and it ain't Christmas :(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: qunamax on June 23, 2019, 18:28
Catastrophic for me too, if nothing happens in the next week I'll be down 50% from May.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: pancaketom on June 23, 2019, 20:24
sadly my month is looking pretty weak too. DT was running even with SS for a while this month but SS has pulled ahead - of course it used to be 6 times DT, not less than twice.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Ronib on June 23, 2019, 22:02
Catastrophic for me too, if nothing happens in the next week I'll be down 50% from May.
Exact like my situation
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on June 24, 2019, 00:17
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: whosvegas on June 24, 2019, 01:06
For me too, a bad month
Bad for my motivation to upload new images
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Artist on June 25, 2019, 05:53
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I believe they are, I am seeing a very bad month here.
Congrats to you.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: qunamax on June 25, 2019, 07:17
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I believe they are, I am seeing a very bad month here.
Congrats to you.

Really seems like it, today it seems back to normal again (my best sellers selling), while during the poor period of the month I was getting some sales of images that mostly never sold, like someone was digging them up from their pit.
 
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on June 25, 2019, 08:56
i have gallery in catalog manager for each year...in 2017 i uploaded near 2300 files they have already earned in two year 2 dollar per image.....in 2018 near 2300 and they have earned 700 dollar....in 2019 already 2400 and i 'd say more creative and interesting, they have earned 120 dollar in 6 months....the declining of sales of new files is clear, sure i have still  popular images who earn money each months  but without the grow of new files is totally useless to do micro stock.
i hope they eliminate popular tabs and change with relevant or choose editorial because it's clear that nobody with a healthy mind will never look for images through new tabs due to the zillions of snapshot poorly made by thousand of amateur.
despite this in line with last year, but  i'm not surprised...my shutter stock earning in the last three years are practically a straight line with a difference in the first semester of 20 dollar and a bunch of download. i can predict july and august right from now.

stock instead sells' only new files but their red is a joke so far less than ss, as is in the middle.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: trucic on June 25, 2019, 10:08
... it`s obvious that they are changing something or breaking after site updates... I will be happy with flat line, but now it feels like I`am going downhill... summer never brought declines like this, because this happened again ... last and ongoing year changes came in April...
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: DiscreetDuck on June 25, 2019, 14:58
It looks like june is going to be my worst month on shutterstock and i cant understand why?
Anyone else?
I personnally do the maths when the month is finished. And I never complain whatever happens.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Ozone on June 25, 2019, 17:12
SS is up from the beginning of the year, but at the other hand P5 is waaaaaaay way down.
I shoot video.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Mrblues101 on June 25, 2019, 21:06
Normal month for me  ???

Today i reach 80% of last month incoming, so i think i will reach about same ammount.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Pauws99 on June 26, 2019, 01:54
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I believe they are, I am seeing a very bad month here.
Congrats to you.

Really seems like it, today it seems back to normal again (my best sellers selling), while during the poor period of the month I was getting some sales of images that mostly never sold, like someone was digging them up from their pit.
I either seem to sell my "old reliables" or 5 year old stuff that's never sold my new content almost never sells. Looking like a mediocre though not disastrous month.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on June 26, 2019, 06:54
Yesterday i had a 25 aingle seems complaining works) ahaha... acyltually in line with last year problem is therrnia zero growth dewpite the hard work. Seems im at that point and i will be there forevere. Lost any interest in creating new content. Just will clen my big backlog but wonít spend any money or time in new ahooting.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on June 26, 2019, 07:42
yesterday big sale today as always i could have bet 1000000 dollar, a bunch of subs nothing more....i'm sure till end of month nothing just a not the single to match last year results....last weeks random files new and last year sold pretty good...then stop, only best seller or old files.
how is this possible? i mean all agency i work for have a random path a roller coaster similar path...ss has a straight line since three years in practice.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: angelawaye on June 26, 2019, 08:08
It is a horrible month for me too. Its hard to even look at. I agree that nothing new sells so it gives me no motivation to upload there.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on June 26, 2019, 08:15
microstock in my opinion apart some rare cases of factory or people who live in third world country or very poor country compared to western hemisphere, is unfortunately not more a job to earn a living. this is the sad truth. when you have to compete with people who live in kiev or belagreade, where a shooting cost a bunch dollar and the living cost are one tenth is not possible to compete. it's like the factory who close the door in western country when china become the production at a level of cost a fraction of theirs. simply not possible to survive now and even less in 2 3 years, time to move to another occupation.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: wds on June 26, 2019, 08:39
microstock in my opinion apart some rare cases of factory or people who live in third world country or very poor country compared to western hemisphere, is unfortunately not more a job to earn a living. this is the sad truth. when you have to compete with people who live in kiev or belagreade, where a shooting cost a bunch dollar and the living cost are one tenth is not possible to compete. it's like the factory who close the door in western country when china become the production at a level of cost a fraction of theirs. simply not possible to survive now and even less in 2 3 years, time to move to another occupation.

You make excellent points. There are still US based contributors who make  a good living at it. They are exceptional in terms of the quality and quantity of output. However, I do wonder if even some of them wouldn't agree with you if they had to start from scratch in today's environment. One of the toughest things about it is the trend line.  It is hard to be enthusiastic with a continuing downward trend.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on June 26, 2019, 08:52
microstock in my opinion apart some rare cases of factory or people who live in third world country or very poor country compared to western hemisphere, is unfortunately not more a job to earn a living. this is the sad truth. when you have to compete with people who live in kiev or belagreade, where a shooting cost a bunch dollar and the living cost are one tenth is not possible to compete. it's like the factory who close the door in western country when china become the production at a level of cost a fraction of theirs. simply not possible to survive now and even less in 2 3 years, time to move to another occupation.

You make excellent points. There are still US based contributors who make  a good living at it. They are exceptional in terms of the quality and quantity of output. However, I do wonder if even some of them wouldn't agree with you if they had to start from scratch in today's environment. One of the toughest things about it is the trend line.  It is hard to be enthusiastic with a continuing downward trend.

sure some earn good money but most fo them are in downward trend i know some...you can survive only producing at cheap cost and working like a donkey, producing 10000 good images month in a factory environment.....if most of the factory are in russia and ukriane and serbia there is a motivation? low cheap cost of life and production.
in addiction in those country model are everywhere, where i live to find good model you need go to an agency who not ask you less than 300 euro shooting. when you need 4 5 for group shot, and you pay location and all , good luck.
i'm still growing this year but much less i have expected after working so hard in last two year. seems i'm stucked in the middle of nowhere.
in addiction soon most if not all exclusive of stock, we are talking about 10 20 millions file, will ditch their status because the return per download is simply falling down in stock, and stock is raising the number of download to gain status and more earning,...so another 20 millions of very good file in ss as alamy.
and we are not considering the other billions of images of people who work with instagram or freelancing, who never considered micro stock but soon due to a falling down of earning in freelancing job. and we talk about very good artist, mostly better than the medium micro stocker. still video is good but even it has limited time. a lot of factory have stopped producing photos and concentrate on video, but this will cause a collapse of video sales.
and i not even considering the fact that ss has a negative growth in the last year, an following their trend they will probably lose money in next quarter...so they need to save somewhere, and i know where they take money, advertising images with lower ranking to pay less revenue.
all pin all the future is bright
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on June 26, 2019, 08:54
and clearly i'm talking about earning minimum 50 60 k dollars per year. sure if i live in zimbawe don't pay taxes have some cash in bank i can live with 1000 k, eating cheap and sleeping in an apartment....i know people living in thailand with 1500 dollar...everrything sounds super till they have a medical problem and need 300 dollar day for hospital.:). so if you don't earn at least 3000 dollar please avoid telling us everything is super.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: qunamax on June 26, 2019, 10:19
Oh so predictable, the sales have now taken off in a hurry to make my monthly quota before the month ends.
Don't want to sound paranoid, it's actually funny.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: MysteryShot on June 26, 2019, 10:49
...well then i am moving from Austria to Serbia, i know  their food is good and cheap  :)
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: fotoroad on June 26, 2019, 18:40
So far so good, not complaining, new images are selling also
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: SuperPhoto on June 26, 2019, 22:15
while rather new to shutterstock (only about 6 months), was surprised to see 0 sales this month with a portfolio of videos of 3,000+...
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Ronib on June 27, 2019, 01:04
...well then i am moving from Austria to Serbia, i know  their food is good and cheap  :)
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on June 27, 2019, 05:51
...well then i am moving from Austria to Serbia, i know  their food is good and cheap  :)

You should. In belgrade you can find hubdred of modela already trained in stock... therr is also a website where all of them are advertised and you can book them. Sure in september i will move there.
If you searvh for lifestyle content you will recognize them in many portfolio, the lost famous has red hair and beard nd is probably present in hundreds of thousand of images. The only drawbacks is the model are always the same so the faces are not very fresh in stock.
Even yuri archra moved to cape town city that i know moatly cause denmark
Is probably one of the most expensive country, not obly for this cape has weather model industry and superbnlocation.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Uncle Pete on June 27, 2019, 06:46
It is hard to be enthusiastic with a continuing downward trend.

I know! I removed everything except the two very accurate points.

It's hard to be motivated in light of the downward trend. What makes me wonder is, why does anyone think anything will change after most of us have been watching this slide for seven years now? I was relatively happy when sales stayed flat, even with uploading new files. Now that phase has passed and it's getting worse.

I didn't think things could get any worse. Once again, I was wrong.  :(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: SuperPhoto on June 27, 2019, 09:07
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: PinHead on June 27, 2019, 10:10
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...

SpaceStockFootage produce animations is a big difference ... matter less quantity, but quality. 10% of my portfolio r animations and yes i have an increase in  "animation" sales ...a good month for me  :P
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: SuperPhoto on June 27, 2019, 10:46
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...

SpaceStockFootage produce animations is a big difference ... matter less quantity, but quality. 10% of my portfolio r animations and yes i have an increase in  "animation" sales ...a good month for me  :P

Strange. I have a good set of animations too, and those don't seem to sell too much. Wondering if it is because my portfolio is primarily 'stock' (so when people 'browse' a portfolio, they don't easily find the other animations?)
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: qunamax on June 27, 2019, 10:54
...well then i am moving from Austria to Serbia, i know  their food is good and cheap  :)

If you can tolerate dictatorship, you are welcome, thou not sure about the cheap part, rent is cheap thou.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: suz7 on June 27, 2019, 11:19
[2quote author=SuperPhoto link=topic=34361.msg534522#msg534522 date=1561644432]
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...
[/quote]
Spacestockfootage has amazing animations - this is the reason his portfolio does so well
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: temis on June 27, 2019, 13:12
unfortunately, SS is going to become a common agency and revenues will be lower and lower. As you can see they allowed everybody to produce pics,most of them are craps, but that is their way of business. It is happening the same thing as with istock. I personally upload pics just for fun as I don't pay a model to get back cents but use it to train my photographic skills.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on June 27, 2019, 15:01
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...

Always had massive swings at Shutterstock. On the whole (across all agencies), my earnings have been increasing since I started, many moons ago (uploaded my first clip in 2009 I think - only started putting real effort into it in 2014), but they have started to plateau a bit in 2019. At this rate I'll make about the same as I did in 2018. I guess it's to be expected as I haven't been putting as much effort in as I should if I want to see sales continue to increase. I guess I'd better get some work done!

This month is about 10% higher than my second best month back in January...

Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on June 27, 2019, 15:03
[2quote author=SuperPhoto link=topic=34361.msg534522#msg534522 date=1561644432]
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...
Spacestockfootage has amazing animations - this is the reason his portfolio does so well
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Thanks!  :D
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on June 27, 2019, 15:29
Worst SS month since my second month there.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: PhotoBomb on June 27, 2019, 16:25
I have to go back to July of 2011 to find a worse month.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: trucic on June 28, 2019, 00:39
... yes, I`am experiencing the same right now... very slow with sudden ups and downs...
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: PZF on June 28, 2019, 01:00
Unfortunately, SS is just about the only game left in town.....despite everything

:(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on June 28, 2019, 06:25
the fact that somebody with strong path of sales ion the last year is complain gin of a totally downward of sales trend, and in other forum again people who used to earn 10k and more month are now getting 2 3k of dollar, like getty contributor site where people with 30 to 70 k files of good to very good quality struggle to manage to makes ends meet, makes me think that the situation is not good at all, even if somebody is claiming superb month and a totally unpredictable sales level. first oral video and animation are a totally different beast than photo, the number of files in the collection and the number of download are totally inferior to those of photos, so it's clear there is more casualty in sales. the problem is that soon even prices of video and animation will fall to level where with the actual level of download earning something will be a miracle. it's only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on June 28, 2019, 06:28
Unfortunately, SS is just about the only game left in town.....despite everything

:(


i agree despite all is the only agency in my opinion who still have some possibilities. they would raise the control of sales level for contributor and most of all clean their portfolio eliminating all those crap photos and useless contributor. i would accept 32 cent per photo minimum if they would do this, because it's clear that the only reason to accept new crap iOS to sale files with a royalty of 25 cent instead of 38. but i agree, as and is not even manage to give me one third of what ss makes this month. the problem is that 10 million images added every month are unsustainable. i'm still surprised that people keep uploading so much.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Video-StockOrg on June 29, 2019, 04:13
this month has been the worst with SS. Other sites are decent. But SS... the last time was this bad in December 2016. But the June that was even worse was in 2014, when I had only about 2000 files online (now I have 15000).

Big difference.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Uncle Pete on June 29, 2019, 10:28
What's the worst month of the year. Just one please.

And on average what's the best month of the year?

From my data over six years, the year looks like a sine wave.  It rises from January to February, starts a long decline to June, then climbs until September and October, then declines again until January.

So I'd say my worst months are typically January and June, and my best September or October.

and

Hi guys,
is anyone else facing a dramatic drop in sales?
last week things were normal, this week however, SS sales went down almost -40% (I don't think it's June!)
any idea  ??? ?
Thanks..

Yes, 50% down for a whole June comapred to May. Not normal. I am 3500+ port with regular uploading. This is not normal.

Or

2014 (locked thread) from someone who does diligent statistics and tracking: Stockmarketer

Thought I was having a decent start to June on SS, but this thread made me go and check my numbers from the first three days of June 2013.

first Sunday in June '14 vs '13: dls down 35%

first Monday in June '14 vs '13: dls down 32%

first Tuesday in June '14 vs '13: on track to be down about 30%

And my port size is about 35% higher than this time last year.

Depressing.


It's June and it seems every year, things get worse than ever for many people, in June and January.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: cascoly on June 29, 2019, 12:53
total stock income over the last decade:


   2009         18%   increase over previous year
2010         11%   
2011         26%   
2012         25%   
2013         4%   
2014         -3%   
2015         20%   
2016         4%   
2017         16%   
2018         -17%   
2019         -18%     extrapolated
 
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Uncle Pete on June 30, 2019, 13:02
total stock income over the last decade:


   2009         18%   increase over previous year
2010         11%   
2011         26%   
2012         25%   
2013         4%   
2014         -3%   
2015         20%   
2016         4%   
2017         16%   
2018         -17%   
2019         -18%     extrapolated

Have anything on June compared to the rest of the year or the rest of the Junes?

Change from the previous year, so 20% up over a -3 which was after a 4% slow year, is almost the same? 2018 sure was terrible, I say you did a better job than many, at holding up against the downward income trend. Nice work.

I searched for the poll, "What's Your Worth Month of the year. I'm pretty sure that June was the biggest loser, followed by January. But that was many years ago, things change.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: trucic on June 30, 2019, 23:56
... very bad month here, too... definitely at 2014-2015 year levels... I hope they will stop playing with us, but it seem that footage side became new playground for experiments now... and not in mine favor...
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sammy the Cat on July 01, 2019, 02:34
A pretty crap month with $150 with 3,000 plus images

However looking back over the last few years its either June or July that are crap months it seems to alternate between either month.

Only Xmas is usually as bad
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: panicAttack on July 01, 2019, 02:55
worst month in last 2 and a half year.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Brightontl on July 01, 2019, 03:48
June at SS was gone extremely well for the first 3 weeks, on pace to BME, after BME in May.
But, as often happens in these situations, nothing in the last week, so it ended up pretty mehhh. Not too bad, but pretty disappointing
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: zebra007 on July 01, 2019, 04:02
 :'( Nothing to say.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: ArenaCreative on July 01, 2019, 06:43
My January was down $100 from Feb.
Then $20 less each month, from Feb, to March, to April, to May, to June.

I haven't submitted anything in the last 4 years.  This is to be expected, but I might start uploading some backlog stuff here and there just to see what happens.  I'll most likely be working for 50 cents an hour... it I tall up my earning by the end of 2020. ::)

Remember too that it's the summer slow-down.  Folks go on vacation, and whatnot.  eCommerce, eBay, and Amazon sales are hurting too right now. 
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: wds on July 01, 2019, 08:08
Poor month, but even though downloads were down, what really hurt was a lack of "high dollar" sales....mostly all little amounts.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: whosvegas on July 01, 2019, 12:53
For me also, not a lot of sales
If I look to the poll results, it going down, the last months
AS also

Not so nice
My target was building a port (next year > 1000 images and some videos)
This is not good for my motivation

I think, it is time for a little (stock) break :)
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: gnirtS on July 01, 2019, 19:25
June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Earnings for me have been generally going up the last 12 months but from my graph its fairly clear to see video is where the effort/reward earnings seems to lie more and more.

In this 12 month period my image portfolio tripled in size,my video increase by 30% in size.

Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: derby on July 02, 2019, 03:03
June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Exactly the same for me. BME in 5 years
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Artist on July 02, 2019, 03:33
June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Exactly the same for me. BME in 5 years

I strongly believe that they have altered the algorithm, June was worst for me and day one of July super bad, but congratulations to you guys.
Waiting for the fortune loop to come over again.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Pauws99 on July 02, 2019, 03:37
June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Exactly the same for me. BME in 5 years

I strongly believe that they have altered the algorithm, June was worst for me and day one of July super bad, but congratulations to you guys.
Waiting for the fortune loop to come over again.
I think they are pretty much constantly tinkering with the Algorithm sometimes it hits hard on some.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Uncle Pete on July 02, 2019, 07:51
June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Exactly the same for me. BME in 5 years

I strongly believe that they have altered the algorithm, June was worst for me and day one of July super bad, but congratulations to you guys.
Waiting for the fortune loop to come over again.
I think they are pretty much constantly tinkering with the Algorithm sometimes it hits hard on some.

So people with the letters A or P are marked down and people with the letters D or G are placed higher?  ;D :o

Here's my opinion. Sometimes buyers need certain materials, sometimes they need other materials. June is generally a crappy month, but sometimes, some people will get higher sales, if they have something a buyer wants and needs. The whole site doesn't have to be manipulated to have ups and downs by seasons, or artists offerings. It's just what it is?

Back to the old days, when "everyone is lower in the search this month, they must have changed something!" Well everyone can't be lower, for mine to go back a page, something has to go forward a page. If they are playing with the algorithm, some would benefit and some would lose.

I just checked my test searches, for my work, and I'm still on page one where I was for some and page 14 where that one was and always has been. Everything else is just the same as it was... and has been for going on five years now. No Change in the search. Unless of course only some people get changed? I've been watching for five years, and my images may move a little up or down, but never as bad as some folks who say they were page one and are now unable to find their work or page 12 or something. That's impossible to explain and happened around 2012 when there actually was a huge change in the way the search ranked our works.

ps yes my June was horrible compared to other months, and June 2019 was better than every other June since I started, except 2018 (which had an EL). But 2019 is hardly notable, as it's roughly only $2-3 better than 2017, 2016 or 2015.  In other words, my stinky Junes are about the same, year after year.  :(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on July 02, 2019, 08:26
As I guessed, worst since 2/2013.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: trucic on July 02, 2019, 08:52
... obviously a change in algorithm... right now, I`m on bad side...
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: whosvegas on July 02, 2019, 13:02
Very good begin of July for me, today sold my first video :)
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: pancaketom on July 02, 2019, 13:55
I have to go back to May 2007 to find a worse month. I had about 250 images then (less at the start of the month, a few more at the end). The downward trend since ~2012 for me seems to be accelerating.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: rinderart on July 03, 2019, 20:14
Agree. Last 6 Months. terrible. 7000 Images.I feel Like laughing. Thats about all I can do.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sammy the Cat on July 05, 2019, 01:03
July looks like its got off to a bad start too :(

Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Artist on July 22, 2019, 07:13
Its going to be worst July too  :(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Steveball on July 22, 2019, 09:01
Worst month since I had 100 images 10 years ago, to date July has had 10 zero days and the other days are not much better. 5 other agencies are beating SS, how the mighty have fallen (for me anyway).
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on July 22, 2019, 09:51
Agree. Last 6 Months. terrible. 7000 Images.I feel Like laughing. Thats about all I can do.

7000 images are nothing today. or yu have a super niche and or a superb lifestyle portfolio...or you have 50k generalist images with normal content....with 7000 images like yours the results will be always worst month after month.it's not 2008 anymore....so stop complaining and star producing...maybe you will see the results will be better.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: HughStoneIan on July 22, 2019, 12:30
Jun was my worst month since May 2007.

So far July is even worse than that.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: rinderart on July 22, 2019, 23:23
Agree. Last 6 Months. terrible. 7000 Images.I feel Like laughing. Thats about all I can do.

7000 images are nothing today. or yu have a super niche and or a superb lifestyle portfolio...or you have 50k generalist images with normal content....with 7000 images like yours the results will be always worst month after month.it's not 2008 anymore....so stop complaining and star producing...maybe you will see the results will be better.

How about a link to your port Man??.....
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: cascoly on July 23, 2019, 01:58
Poor month, but even though downloads were down, what really hurt was a lack of "high dollar" sales....mostly all little amounts.

I think that's the main reason - high dollar sales have been down for canva, adobe and SS over the last year   - an algorithm change wouldn't explain that for all 3 - subscriptions remain more or less the same.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Chichikov on July 23, 2019, 02:16
Horrible month!

Guillermo del Toro could make a film about it!
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: obj owl on July 23, 2019, 11:46
Poor month, but even though downloads were down, what really hurt was a lack of "high dollar" sales....mostly all little amounts.

I think that's the main reason - high dollar sales have been down for canva, adobe and SS over the last year   - an algorithm change wouldn't explain that for all 3 - subscriptions remain more or less the same.

They all have enterprise teams who look after not only the top customers, but also the top earners, that's where the higher dollar sales are going.  Premium is where the dollars have gone.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Liorpt on July 23, 2019, 12:47
Super bad month but itís July so itís Super predicted and Iím super ok about it.


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Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: angelawaye on July 23, 2019, 14:58
Horrible month. I had to cancel my "affordable" health care coverage (bronze @$400 a month).

The economy is going so well but this year has been just awful for me. I never thought I would have to cancel my health insurance.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Fairplay on July 24, 2019, 01:33
We all know it's July and that's why we compare our earnings with the same month from the previous years!
It's getting worse every year after 2014 for me.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: charged on July 24, 2019, 01:48
Horrible month. I had to cancel my "affordable" health care coverage (bronze @$400 a month).

The economy is going so well but this year has been just awful for me. I never thought I would have to cancel my health insurance.

I hope you did the math on the tax penalty that would be applied to you for not having insurance and see what the difference is. (I'm assuming you are American)
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: HalfFull on July 24, 2019, 06:32
Horrible month. I had to cancel my "affordable" health care coverage (bronze @$400 a month).

The economy is going so well but this year has been just awful for me. I never thought I would have to cancel my health insurance.

Makes me feel lucky to be in the UK.

For me, SS has been good this month but AS/FT have been poor. They seem to have a bad 1-2 weeks followed by a good week. Compared to the rest of the year, it's been harsh this month.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on July 24, 2019, 07:03
best month of the year and probablybest month ever...with 140 video i sold 7 near 5 % of collection, makes me angry  not to have uploaded more video...best month in stock poor as.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: angelawaye on July 24, 2019, 08:54
Horrible month. I had to cancel my "affordable" health care coverage (bronze @$400 a month).

The economy is going so well but this year has been just awful for me. I never thought I would have to cancel my health insurance.

I hope you did the math on the tax penalty that would be applied to you for not having insurance and see what the difference is. (I'm assuming you are American)

"The federal tax penalty for not being enrolled in health insurance will be eliminated in 2019 because of recent changes made by the Trump Administration"

It's not fair to force someone to pay for unaffordable health insurance if they really cannot pay it. I honesty can't pay the $400 a month anymore (with 5K deductible). Even if I cancel my cable and put my student loans in deferment it STILL would not cover the premium. Sorry for the off topic rant... It is upsetting so I get fired up.

Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Steveball on July 24, 2019, 10:42
Even BS beat SS today!
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Steveball on July 24, 2019, 10:51
What a system! We'll be going the same way in the UK if the tory scum get their way.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Artist on July 24, 2019, 11:06
Even BS beat SS today!

Epic comparison ;D

For me july is going very bad, but today was saved by one SOD.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: PZF on July 24, 2019, 12:34
What a system! We'll be going the same way in the UK if the tory scum get their way.
Best leave politics out of it.Not great to call fellow photogs scum.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Pauws99 on July 25, 2019, 02:25
What a system! We'll be going the same way in the UK if the tory scum get their way.
Best leave politics out of it.Not great to call fellow photogs scum.
Hes not doing that
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: trabuco on July 25, 2019, 03:16
Boris is cool.
Not for his girlfriend.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: whosvegas on July 25, 2019, 04:08
BME for me :)
With my first video sale! And a higher number of photo downloads (all subs)
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: PZF on July 25, 2019, 14:09
Truly truly truly awful this last week. Sudden plummet....
Every day is a weekend...except I am working. :(
Here's hoping for an algorithm change - soon!
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sammy the Cat on July 26, 2019, 03:00
The last time I had earnings this low was August 2014 when I had a few hundred images.

 >:(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on July 26, 2019, 07:55
Even worse than last month, looking to be.  Which was my lowest month since my second month.  This looks to be my lowest since my first.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Mcrstckfllw on July 26, 2019, 08:37
Worst? The worse is yet to come.

Maybe due to the 10 free images free download deadline for potential buyers to try out has just expired?

Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: whosvegas on July 31, 2019, 06:44
Very nice month for me :)
AS download numbers are also coming back

But next month i think, we get a vacation drop
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: YadaYadaYada on July 31, 2019, 09:32
Horrible month. I had to cancel my "affordable" health care coverage (bronze @$400 a month).

The economy is going so well but this year has been just awful for me. I never thought I would have to cancel my health insurance.

I hope you did the math on the tax penalty that would be applied to you for not having insurance and see what the difference is. (I'm assuming you are American)

"The federal tax penalty for not being enrolled in health insurance will be eliminated in 2019 because of recent changes made by the Trump Administration"

It's not fair to force someone to pay for unaffordable health insurance if they really cannot pay it. I honesty can't pay the $400 a month anymore (with 5K deductible). Even if I cancel my cable and put my student loans in deferment it STILL would not cover the premium. Sorry for the off topic rant... It is upsetting so I get fired up.

I didn't know about that penality I have coverage from work. $400 is not affordable. We really need a better plan, but hospitals bill insurance companys over 200% more then the government pays. Hows that free health in the UK working? Why do people from Canada come to the US for care and pay their own.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: ShadySue on July 31, 2019, 10:32
Hows that free health in the UK working?
Can't speak for the whole of the UK as I don't know, but here in Scotland it's fine, for now. All prescription medicines are free for everyone. (I don't think that's the case in England)

In May, my 90yo mum fell and broke her hip, which combined with several previously smashed-up vertebrae in the spine due to osteoporosis has left her chairbound. However, after her op, she had 3+ weeks in hospital, then another 3+ weeks in a convalescent hospital with physio twice a day to help her get to 'chairbound'. Now she's home with 2 carers four times a day to help with personal needs and meals; she's had visits from social workers, occupational therapists, a district nurse and tomorrow physios, she's been given a hospital bed and a stedy for home use - no complaints at all. My sister and I do her shopping and look after her house and garden, but basic shopping (she'd pay for the shopping but someone would do it for her while she couldn't get to the door to receive deliveries) and basic housework would be provided if we weren't able and willing to do it.

Long live the NHS. Boris and Trump had better keep their hands off it.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Pauws99 on July 31, 2019, 10:54
Hows that free health in the UK working?
Can't speak for the whole of the UK as I don't know, but here in Scotland it's fine, for now. All prescription medicines are free for everyone. (I don't think that's the case in England)

In May, my 90yo mum fell and broke her hip, which combined with several perviously smashed-up vertebrae in the spine due to osteoporosis has left her chairbound. However, after her op, she had 3+ weeks in hospital, then another 3+ weeks in a convalescent hospital with physio twice a day to help her get to 'chairbound'. Now she's home with 2 carers four times a day to help with personal needs and meals; she's had visits from social workers, occupational therapists, a district nurse and tomorrow physios, she's been given a hospital bed and stedy for home use - no complaints at all. My sister and I do her shopping and look after her house and garden, but basic shopping and housework would be provided if we weren't there to do that.

Long live the NHS. Boris and Trump had better keep their hands off it.
Indeed  in England we pay for prescriptions. Its not perfect but its generally going pretty well. The WHO say this "The U.S. health system spends a higher portion of its gross domestic product than any other country but ranks 37 out of 191 countries according to its performance, the report finds. The United Kingdom, which spends just six percent of GDP on health services, ranks 18 th . Several small countries Ė San Marino, Andorra, Malta and Singapore are rated close behind second- placed Italy."
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: ShadySue on July 31, 2019, 11:04
Hows that free health in the UK working?
Can't speak for the whole of the UK as I don't know, but here in Scotland it's fine, for now. All prescription medicines are free for everyone. (I don't think that's the case in England)
I should have said that most Scots pay an extra 1% income tax compared to England. Seems to be worth it, so far.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: YadaYadaYada on July 31, 2019, 11:22
Hows that free health in the UK working?
Can't speak for the whole of the UK as I don't know, but here in Scotland it's fine, for now. All prescription medicines are free for everyone. (I don't think that's the case in England)
I should have said that most Scots pay an extra 1% income tax compared to England. Seems to be worth it, so far.

NHS seems very popular. https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/07/591128836/u-k-hospitals-are-overburdened-but-the-british-love-their-universal-health-care (https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/07/591128836/u-k-hospitals-are-overburdened-but-the-british-love-their-universal-health-care) I read last year that emergency was often to busy because of the number of people who came in with hangovers in the morning. Waiting time for surgery was long. Life expectancy is longer in Great Britain than the US. Does that have to do with guns and drugs or health care.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: ShadySue on July 31, 2019, 11:32
Hows that free health in the UK working?
Can't speak for the whole of the UK as I don't know, but here in Scotland it's fine, for now. All prescription medicines are free for everyone. (I don't think that's the case in England)
I should have said that most Scots pay an extra 1% income tax compared to England. Seems to be worth it, so far.

NHS seems very popular. https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/07/591128836/u-k-hospitals-are-overburdened-but-the-british-love-their-universal-health-care (https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/07/591128836/u-k-hospitals-are-overburdened-but-the-british-love-their-universal-health-care) I read last year that emergency was often to busy because of the number of people who came in with hangovers in the morning. Waiting time for surgery was long. Life expectancy is longer in Great Britain than the US. Does that have to do with guns and drugs or health care.
Yes, A&E can get full of people who could be treated elsewhere, e.g. by a GP or pharmacist, there's an education programme underway to deal with that. Also A&E are under pressure to turn people round quickly which can result in some people being sent home and readmitted soon afterwards. We have a drug problem in many areas here. I was picking up Mum's medicines in a small pharmacy in a very small village and couldn't believe the stream of people coming in for their methadone, but I've heard it's the same in my town. Of course, a higher rate of gun ownership leads to a much higher proportion of gun injuries and murders there.

OTOH, here NHS treatment is enhanced by a lot of charities which are set up for various illnesses or groups of illnesses. You can hardly go to a big supermarket at the weekend without encountering volunteers collecting - sometimes it's me! - and these charities provide a lot of extra support over and above the NHS. I've heard that really doesn't happen in the US (people collecting outside supermarkets, in streets etc).
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Pauws99 on July 31, 2019, 13:50
No system is perfect one of the downsides of the NHS is people misusing the service for trivial issues...most people don't like it but would probably concede its a price worth paying
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: hatman12 on July 31, 2019, 23:37
This idea that the NHS is 'free' is complete and utter rubbish.  It is paid for from National Insurance Contributions.  Every worker has 11% deducted from salary in addition to income taxes.  Employers pay extra.  Yes, part of this money goes towards other benefits such as unemployment, national pensions etc.  But a large part is to pay for the NHS.

Imagine someone earning a reasonable 50,000 per annum.  They pay 5500 a year in National Insurance.  A typical person works 40 years, so that's 220000 over a working life not adjusting for inflation etc.

Now imagine if that money was instead invested in an annual investment plan.  Even at a modest 5% a year that money would grow to somewhere near to 1,000,000 - easily enough money for retirement and health.

What would you rather have - free NHS and a small Government pension, or one million pounds in the bank?
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sammy the Cat on August 01, 2019, 01:05
Anyway back to the subject of the thread

July was as bad as June lo and behold the same number of downloads but compared to previous years half the money.

And what is really bad is the little flurry of 33 cent SOD sales when my minimum should be 38 cents.

These people are worse than drug dealers   >:(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: trucic on August 01, 2019, 01:42
... very bad month here, too... since April, things changed dramatically...
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: mindstorm on August 01, 2019, 01:43
And what is really bad is the little flurry of 33 cent SOD sales when my minimum should be 38 cents.

I have not had a single SS sale this year less than 36 cents, which is the proper amount for my level...?

Overall, for SS, I have 7043 downloads with revenue of $4761.62, which comes out to an average of 67.6 cents.

SS is no longer my biggest revenue, but it is still steady with sales every day...
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Pauws99 on August 01, 2019, 02:03
This idea that the NHS is 'free' is complete and utter rubbish.  It is paid for from National Insurance Contributions.  Every worker has 11% deducted from salary in addition to income taxes.  Employers pay extra.  Yes, part of this money goes towards other benefits such as unemployment, national pensions etc.  But a large part is to pay for the NHS.

Imagine someone earning a reasonable 50,000 per annum.  They pay 5500 a year in National Insurance.  A typical person works 40 years, so that's 220000 over a working life not adjusting for inflation etc.

Now imagine if that money was instead invested in an annual investment plan.  Even at a modest 5% a year that money would grow to somewhere near to 1,000,000 - easily enough money for retirement and health.

What would you rather have - free NHS and a small Government pension, or one million pounds in the bank?
A free National Health Service thanks. The average wage is about £25k and I wouldn't throw the disabled and ill people who can't work under the bus as I'm OK. The NHS is free at the point of delivery no one says it doesn't cost anything.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: ShadySue on August 01, 2019, 02:41
This idea that the NHS is 'free' is complete and utter rubbish.  It is paid for from National Insurance Contributions.  Every worker has 11% deducted from salary in addition to income taxes.  Employers pay extra.  Yes, part of this money goes towards other benefits such as unemployment, national pensions etc.  But a large part is to pay for the NHS.

Imagine someone earning a reasonable 50,000 per annum.  They pay 5500 a year in National Insurance.  A typical person works 40 years, so that's 220000 over a working life not adjusting for inflation etc.

Now imagine if that money was instead invested in an annual investment plan.  Even at a modest 5% a year that money would grow to somewhere near to 1,000,000 - easily enough money for retirement and health.

What would you rather have - free NHS and a small Government pension, or one million pounds in the bank?
A free National Health Service thanks. The average wage is about £25k and I wouldn't throw the disabled and ill people who can't work under the bus as I'm OK. The NHS is free at the point of delivery no one says it doesn't cost anything.

200% agree.
If you were insuring for a wasteful private health service (all the extra people and fabric in the insurance company) you could easily spend more than £5500 pa, esp when you consider the other things NI pays for. Angela says the minimum is $400 dollars a month, and that's only health.
You can choose not to insure and run with the risk of getting ill, but it would be poor parenting to make that choice on behalf of a child.
Besides, what would I do with £1 million after I'm dead?
And how is it if I buy travel insurance when I go to the States, I have to buy a minimum of $1 million health insurance? Oh yes, because health care is so expensive there.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Pauws99 on August 01, 2019, 02:55
This idea that the NHS is 'free' is complete and utter rubbish.  It is paid for from National Insurance Contributions.  Every worker has 11% deducted from salary in addition to income taxes.  Employers pay extra.  Yes, part of this money goes towards other benefits such as unemployment, national pensions etc.  But a large part is to pay for the NHS.

Imagine someone earning a reasonable 50,000 per annum.  They pay 5500 a year in National Insurance.  A typical person works 40 years, so that's 220000 over a working life not adjusting for inflation etc.

Now imagine if that money was instead invested in an annual investment plan.  Even at a modest 5% a year that money would grow to somewhere near to 1,000,000 - easily enough money for retirement and health.

What would you rather have - free NHS and a small Government pension, or one million pounds in the bank?
A free National Health Service thanks. The average wage is about £25k and I wouldn't throw the disabled and ill people who can't work under the bus as I'm OK. The NHS is free at the point of delivery no one says it doesn't cost anything.

200% agree.
If you were insuring for a wasteful private health service (all the extra people and fabric in the insurance company) you could easily spend more than £5500 pa, esp when you consider the other things NI pays for. Angela says the minimum is $400 dollars a month.
You can choose not to insure and run with the risk of getting ill, but it would be poor parenting to do that on behalf of a child.
Besides, what would I do with £1 million after I'm dead? And how is it if I buy travel insurance when I go to the States, I have to buy a minimum of $1 million health insurance? Oh yes, because health care is so expensive there.
If only NI did pay for all that 80% of NHS costs comes out of general taxation. The fact is Health Care is very expensive.  Its really a matter of philosophy/politics whether you think its an individual or social responsibility.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on August 01, 2019, 03:20
What would you rather have - free NHS and a small Government pension, or one million pounds in the bank?

The answer to that can only be given in hindsight, and the answer is going to be very different for somebody in perfect health and somebody who has been plagued with a long and costly illness. National Insurance... the clue is in the title!
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Pauws99 on August 01, 2019, 03:32
What would you rather have - free NHS and a small Government pension, or one million pounds in the bank?

The answer to that can only be given in hindsight, and the answer is going to be very different for somebody in perfect health and somebody who has been plagued with a long and costly illness. National Insurance... the clue is in the title!
Only if you think the only issue is your personal wealth.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: gnirtS on August 01, 2019, 03:46
Quote
Hows that free health in the UK working?

For urgent/emergency care its great.
For non urgent surgery and treatments its not so great.  Waiting lists for things like eye operations and so on are 2-3 years on average in some areas.
Roughly 3.5 week wait for an appointment to see your GP.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: ShadySue on August 01, 2019, 12:09
This idea that the NHS is 'free' is complete and utter rubbish.  It is paid for from National Insurance Contributions.  Every worker has 11% deducted from salary in addition to income taxes.  Employers pay extra.  Yes, part of this money goes towards other benefits such as unemployment, national pensions etc.  But a large part is to pay for the NHS.

Imagine someone earning a reasonable 50,000 per annum.  They pay 5500 a year in National Insurance.  A typical person works 40 years, so that's 220000 over a working life not adjusting for inflation etc.

Now imagine if that money was instead invested in an annual investment plan.  Even at a modest 5% a year that money would grow to somewhere near to 1,000,000 - easily enough money for retirement and health.

What would you rather have - free NHS and a small Government pension, or one million pounds in the bank?
A free National Health Service thanks. The average wage is about £25k and I wouldn't throw the disabled and ill people who can't work under the bus as I'm OK. The NHS is free at the point of delivery no one says it doesn't cost anything.

200% agree.
If you were insuring for a wasteful private health service (all the extra people and fabric in the insurance company) you could easily spend more than £5500 pa, esp when you consider the other things NI pays for. Angela says the minimum is $400 dollars a month.
You can choose not to insure and run with the risk of getting ill, but it would be poor parenting to do that on behalf of a child.
Besides, what would I do with £1 million after I'm dead? And how is it if I buy travel insurance when I go to the States, I have to buy a minimum of $1 million health insurance? Oh yes, because health care is so expensive there.
If only NI did pay for all that 80% of NHS costs comes out of general taxation. The fact is Health Care is very expensive.  Its really a matter of philosophy/politics whether you think its an individual or social responsibility.
True, to an extent; but lots of studies have shown US medicine in particular is very wasteful.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sammy the Cat on August 02, 2019, 04:57
Seriously how did a thread about  worst month on Shutterstock get hi-jacked into a discussion of health care?  ???

C'mon!  :(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Uncle Pete on August 02, 2019, 08:34
Anyway back to the subject of the thread

July was as bad as June lo and behold the same number of downloads but compared to previous years half the money.

And what is really bad is the little flurry of 33 cent SOD sales when my minimum should be 38 cents.

These people are worse than drug dealers   >:(

Yes, it seems part of the downward spiral for some people, is same amount of sales, but less money. I don't know what you have that sells SO for less than a sub, I don't get those, but I understand how that could happen. Big contract buyer, discounted prices.

There's a whole cycle kind of like drug dealers, or addiction? Ego dealers with promises of money early on, the levels, future growth and more promises, make more as you make progress. Then they pull the rug out, no more levels, lower commissions, and we're still hooked, on lower earnings, because it's a kind of addiction. I finally broke free and dropped the parasitic agencies, I won't feed them for some spare change. But what's left isn't much to brag about. Four agencies is less work though.

Why do I stay, why do I keep uploading? Because what I do make seems to be worth the weak effort I'm putting into this now.  8) I'd be taking these photos, most of them, even if there was no Microstock. I still think some people do well and work hard and get their rewards. I don't and I get what I deserve.

Look at the poll. That's people who decide to take the poll, but it represents the state of things. SS is double, AS, IS has gone from #1 to below FT/AS and DT? 2.5 holy cow, a dozen of the "middle tier", do better, including five people who still work self hosted.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sammy the Cat on August 02, 2019, 11:27
Anyway back to the subject of the thread

July was as bad as June lo and behold the same number of downloads but compared to previous years half the money.

And what is really bad is the little flurry of 33 cent SOD sales when my minimum should be 38 cents.

These people are worse than drug dealers   >:(

Yes, it seems part of the downward spiral for some people, is same amount of sales, but less money. I don't know what you have that sells SO for less than a sub, I don't get those, but I understand how that could happen. Big contract buyer, discounted prices.

There's a whole cycle kind of like drug dealers, or addiction? Ego dealers with promises of money early on, the levels, future growth and more promises, make more as you make progress. Then they pull the rug out, no more levels, lower commissions, and we're still hooked, on lower earnings, because it's a kind of addiction. I finally broke free and dropped the parasitic agencies, I won't feed them for some spare change. But what's left isn't much to brag about. Four agencies is less work though.

Why do I stay, why do I keep uploading? Because what I do make seems to be worth the weak effort I'm putting into this now.  8) I'd be taking these photos, most of them, even if there was no Microstock. I still think some people do well and work hard and get their rewards. I don't and I get what I deserve.

Look at the poll. That's people who decide to take the poll, but it represents the state of things. SS is double, AS, IS has gone from #1 to below FT/AS and DT? 2.5 holy cow, a dozen of the "middle tier", do better, including five people who still work self hosted.

I had a few of these 33 cent sales a few months ago (March 2019) and wrote to Shutterstock and was told "it was all part of their plan" or words to that effect

I quote
"We have reviewed many of the licensing events youíve brought to our attention, and can say definitively that everything is working as intended. These payouts are the result of clients with a plan that pays out %-based vs flat value. As detailed on https://submit.shutterstock.com/payouts, a custom plan tailored to the specific needs of a business may pay out a % of the total price of the image, either 20%, 25%, 28%, or 30% depending on lifetime earnings."

Funny how they keep this s-hit to themselves but perhaps they thought we were sick of more exciting news emails :(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: PZF on August 03, 2019, 01:59
SS is close to dead.
:(
Occasional subs only.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: kelomang on August 03, 2019, 03:12
SS is close to dead.
:(
Occasional subs only.

It pretty much is. I wouldn't mind so much about only subs if they were only consistent or increasing as our ports grow. It's the decline of sales day by day is what's concerning.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Mantis on August 04, 2019, 08:50
The swings are just huge. Last month (June) I made mid $900. July was mid $400, half.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Sammy the Cat on August 12, 2019, 04:15
Half way thru August and made $38
and a zero sale weekend Saturday and Sunday for the first time in 5 years

I'll be lucky to make $100 this month  :'(

No high value SOD's ODD's are none existant and EL's dissappeared over a year ago.

I give up there's just no point to this game any longer   :(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: hafakot on August 12, 2019, 05:22
For me big GAME OVER on all sites
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: jonbull on August 12, 2019, 05:52
after a super july with also 4 video sale with a portfolio of less than 100 video....august is appalling 12 august 85 dollar. it's unbelievable. near 100 percent down compared to last year. one sod and one single the rest only subs. don't know what they did after 20 july but they screwed things up.
i will clean the backlog who will need a lot of times but will not spend a dime on a shooting till i see some improvements. good that is summer and assignment and personal private shooting is rocking especially with rich people...tthe fact that rich are spending like crazy for an hour shooting but normal business cannot even buy photos for penny means a lot to me.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: whosvegas on August 12, 2019, 07:23
After a good July, bme fo me :)

August is a wme
1 subscription so far
But August is a vacation month

Let's hope sales will come back in September
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: Mantis on August 15, 2019, 04:41
Something other than summer is affecting my sales. Just making $3-5 a day. I am usually making $25-$50 a day. Only at $140 so far for August and July netted only $460, when my last few months before July have been $800-$900. Probably getting summer slump plus the recipient of a search change/test. Either way the last two months have been horrible, Aug worse than July, overall on track to be down 60% this month.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: HalfFull on August 15, 2019, 05:07
Something other than summer is affecting my sales. Just making $3-5 a day. I am usually making $25-$50 a day. Only at $140 so far for August and July netted only $460, when my last few months before July have been $800-$900. Probably getting summer slump plus the recipient of a search change/test. Either way the last two months have been horrible, Aug worse than July, overall on track to be down 60% this month.

Could well be a tweak...of course it could tweak back so fingers crossed.

Myself.... July was a little lower than last year but not by much, only $20 or so (780 total). August has been a strong month, especially this week with days of 60-95 (480 so far). I'm sort of expecting this to suddenly stop... at which point it'll probably be your turn! June-Aug tend to be quieter months for me at SS.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: qunamax on August 15, 2019, 05:41
I just hope that the last two weeks of the august the wheel needle will land on my name.
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: zebra007 on August 15, 2019, 05:44
SUPER SUCK BAD >:(
Title: Re: Worst month on shutterstock
Post by: YadaYadaYada on August 16, 2019, 15:20
Seriously how did a thread about  worst month on Shutterstock get hi-jacked into a discussion of health care?  ???

C'mon!  :(

Nothing from Marbury Herg how he dropped to half of last month for the 48th straight time.  ;D