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« on: June 23, 2019, 16:55 »
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It looks like june is going to be my worst month on shutterstock and i cant understand why?
Anyone else?


« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2019, 17:18 »
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Yup  a pretty crap month but its the same with Adobe and Alamy.

If nothing big comes up in this last week it'll be my worst revenue since Christmas 2017 and it ain't Christmas :(

« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2019, 18:28 »
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Catastrophic for me too, if nothing happens in the next week I'll be down 50% from May.

« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2019, 20:24 »
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sadly my month is looking pretty weak too. DT was running even with SS for a while this month but SS has pulled ahead - of course it used to be 6 times DT, not less than twice.

« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2019, 22:02 »
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Catastrophic for me too, if nothing happens in the next week I'll be down 50% from May.
Exact like my situation

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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2019, 00:17 »
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Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2019, 01:06 »
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For me too, a bad month
Bad for my motivation to upload new images

« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2019, 05:53 »
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Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I believe they are, I am seeing a very bad month here.
Congrats to you.

« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2019, 07:17 »
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Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I believe they are, I am seeing a very bad month here.
Congrats to you.

Really seems like it, today it seems back to normal again (my best sellers selling), while during the poor period of the month I was getting some sales of images that mostly never sold, like someone was digging them up from their pit.
 

« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2019, 08:56 »
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i have gallery in catalog manager for each year...in 2017 i uploaded near 2300 files they have already earned in two year 2 dollar per image.....in 2018 near 2300 and they have earned 700 dollar....in 2019 already 2400 and i 'd say more creative and interesting, they have earned 120 dollar in 6 months....the declining of sales of new files is clear, sure i have still  popular images who earn money each months  but without the grow of new files is totally useless to do micro stock.
i hope they eliminate popular tabs and change with relevant or choose editorial because it's clear that nobody with a healthy mind will never look for images through new tabs due to the zillions of snapshot poorly made by thousand of amateur.
despite this in line with last year, but  i'm not surprised...my shutter stock earning in the last three years are practically a straight line with a difference in the first semester of 20 dollar and a bunch of download. i can predict july and august right from now.

stock instead sells' only new files but their red is a joke so far less than ss, as is in the middle.

« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2019, 10:08 »
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... it`s obvious that they are changing something or breaking after site updates... I will be happy with flat line, but now it feels like I`am going downhill... summer never brought declines like this, because this happened again ... last and ongoing year changes came in April...

« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2019, 14:58 »
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It looks like june is going to be my worst month on shutterstock and i cant understand why?
Anyone else?
I personnally do the maths when the month is finished. And I never complain whatever happens.

« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2019, 17:12 »
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SS is up from the beginning of the year, but at the other hand P5 is waaaaaaay way down.
I shoot video.

« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2019, 21:06 »
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Normal month for me  ???

Today i reach 80% of last month incoming, so i think i will reach about same ammount.

« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2019, 01:54 »
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Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I believe they are, I am seeing a very bad month here.
Congrats to you.

Really seems like it, today it seems back to normal again (my best sellers selling), while during the poor period of the month I was getting some sales of images that mostly never sold, like someone was digging them up from their pit.
I either seem to sell my "old reliables" or 5 year old stuff that's never sold my new content almost never sells. Looking like a mediocre though not disastrous month.

« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2019, 06:54 »
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Yesterday i had a 25 aingle seems complaining works) ahaha... acyltually in line with last year problem is therrnia zero growth dewpite the hard work. Seems im at that point and i will be there forevere. Lost any interest in creating new content. Just will clen my big backlog but wont spend any money or time in new ahooting.

« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2019, 07:42 »
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yesterday big sale today as always i could have bet 1000000 dollar, a bunch of subs nothing more....i'm sure till end of month nothing just a not the single to match last year results....last weeks random files new and last year sold pretty good...then stop, only best seller or old files.
how is this possible? i mean all agency i work for have a random path a roller coaster similar path...ss has a straight line since three years in practice.


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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2019, 08:08 »
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It is a horrible month for me too. Its hard to even look at. I agree that nothing new sells so it gives me no motivation to upload there.

« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2019, 08:15 »
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microstock in my opinion apart some rare cases of factory or people who live in third world country or very poor country compared to western hemisphere, is unfortunately not more a job to earn a living. this is the sad truth. when you have to compete with people who live in kiev or belagreade, where a shooting cost a bunch dollar and the living cost are one tenth is not possible to compete. it's like the factory who close the door in western country when china become the production at a level of cost a fraction of theirs. simply not possible to survive now and even less in 2 3 years, time to move to another occupation.

wds

« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2019, 08:39 »
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microstock in my opinion apart some rare cases of factory or people who live in third world country or very poor country compared to western hemisphere, is unfortunately not more a job to earn a living. this is the sad truth. when you have to compete with people who live in kiev or belagreade, where a shooting cost a bunch dollar and the living cost are one tenth is not possible to compete. it's like the factory who close the door in western country when china become the production at a level of cost a fraction of theirs. simply not possible to survive now and even less in 2 3 years, time to move to another occupation.

You make excellent points. There are still US based contributors who make  a good living at it. They are exceptional in terms of the quality and quantity of output. However, I do wonder if even some of them wouldn't agree with you if they had to start from scratch in today's environment. One of the toughest things about it is the trend line.  It is hard to be enthusiastic with a continuing downward trend.

« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2019, 08:52 »
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microstock in my opinion apart some rare cases of factory or people who live in third world country or very poor country compared to western hemisphere, is unfortunately not more a job to earn a living. this is the sad truth. when you have to compete with people who live in kiev or belagreade, where a shooting cost a bunch dollar and the living cost are one tenth is not possible to compete. it's like the factory who close the door in western country when china become the production at a level of cost a fraction of theirs. simply not possible to survive now and even less in 2 3 years, time to move to another occupation.

You make excellent points. There are still US based contributors who make  a good living at it. They are exceptional in terms of the quality and quantity of output. However, I do wonder if even some of them wouldn't agree with you if they had to start from scratch in today's environment. One of the toughest things about it is the trend line.  It is hard to be enthusiastic with a continuing downward trend.

sure some earn good money but most fo them are in downward trend i know some...you can survive only producing at cheap cost and working like a donkey, producing 10000 good images month in a factory environment.....if most of the factory are in russia and ukriane and serbia there is a motivation? low cheap cost of life and production.
in addiction in those country model are everywhere, where i live to find good model you need go to an agency who not ask you less than 300 euro shooting. when you need 4 5 for group shot, and you pay location and all , good luck.
i'm still growing this year but much less i have expected after working so hard in last two year. seems i'm stucked in the middle of nowhere.
in addiction soon most if not all exclusive of stock, we are talking about 10 20 millions file, will ditch their status because the return per download is simply falling down in stock, and stock is raising the number of download to gain status and more earning,...so another 20 millions of very good file in ss as alamy.
and we are not considering the other billions of images of people who work with instagram or freelancing, who never considered micro stock but soon due to a falling down of earning in freelancing job. and we talk about very good artist, mostly better than the medium micro stocker. still video is good but even it has limited time. a lot of factory have stopped producing photos and concentrate on video, but this will cause a collapse of video sales.
and i not even considering the fact that ss has a negative growth in the last year, an following their trend they will probably lose money in next quarter...so they need to save somewhere, and i know where they take money, advertising images with lower ranking to pay less revenue.
all pin all the future is bright

« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2019, 08:54 »
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and clearly i'm talking about earning minimum 50 60 k dollars per year. sure if i live in zimbawe don't pay taxes have some cash in bank i can live with 1000 k, eating cheap and sleeping in an apartment....i know people living in thailand with 1500 dollar...everrything sounds super till they have a medical problem and need 300 dollar day for hospital.:). so if you don't earn at least 3000 dollar please avoid telling us everything is super.

« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2019, 10:19 »
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Oh so predictable, the sales have now taken off in a hurry to make my monthly quota before the month ends.
Don't want to sound paranoid, it's actually funny.

« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2019, 10:49 »
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...well then i am moving from Austria to Serbia, i know  their food is good and cheap  :)

« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2019, 18:40 »
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So far so good, not complaining, new images are selling also

« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2019, 22:15 »
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while rather new to shutterstock (only about 6 months), was surprised to see 0 sales this month with a portfolio of videos of 3,000+...

« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2019, 01:04 »
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...well then i am moving from Austria to Serbia, i know  their food is good and cheap  :)


« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2019, 05:51 »
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...well then i am moving from Austria to Serbia, i know  their food is good and cheap  :)

You should. In belgrade you can find hubdred of modela already trained in stock... therr is also a website where all of them are advertised and you can book them. Sure in september i will move there.
If you searvh for lifestyle content you will recognize them in many portfolio, the lost famous has red hair and beard nd is probably present in hundreds of thousand of images. The only drawbacks is the model are always the same so the faces are not very fresh in stock.
Even yuri archra moved to cape town city that i know moatly cause denmark
Is probably one of the most expensive country, not obly for this cape has weather model industry and superbnlocation.

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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2019, 06:46 »
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It is hard to be enthusiastic with a continuing downward trend.

I know! I removed everything except the two very accurate points.

It's hard to be motivated in light of the downward trend. What makes me wonder is, why does anyone think anything will change after most of us have been watching this slide for seven years now? I was relatively happy when sales stayed flat, even with uploading new files. Now that phase has passed and it's getting worse.

I didn't think things could get any worse. Once again, I was wrong.  :(

« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2019, 09:07 »
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Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...

« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2019, 10:10 »
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Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...

SpaceStockFootage produce animations is a big difference ... matter less quantity, but quality. 10% of my portfolio r animations and yes i have an increase in  "animation" sales ...a good month for me  :P

« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2019, 10:46 »
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Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...

SpaceStockFootage produce animations is a big difference ... matter less quantity, but quality. 10% of my portfolio r animations and yes i have an increase in  "animation" sales ...a good month for me  :P

Strange. I have a good set of animations too, and those don't seem to sell too much. Wondering if it is because my portfolio is primarily 'stock' (so when people 'browse' a portfolio, they don't easily find the other animations?)

« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2019, 10:54 »
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...well then i am moving from Austria to Serbia, i know  their food is good and cheap  :)

If you can tolerate dictatorship, you are welcome, thou not sure about the cheap part, rent is cheap thou.

« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2019, 11:19 »
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[2quote author=SuperPhoto link=topic=34361.msg534522#msg534522 date=1561644432]
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...
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Spacestockfootage has amazing animations - this is the reason his portfolio does so well

« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2019, 13:12 »
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unfortunately, SS is going to become a common agency and revenues will be lower and lower. As you can see they allowed everybody to produce pics,most of them are craps, but that is their way of business. It is happening the same thing as with istock. I personally upload pics just for fun as I don't pay a model to get back cents but use it to train my photographic skills.

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« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2019, 15:01 »
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Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...

Always had massive swings at Shutterstock. On the whole (across all agencies), my earnings have been increasing since I started, many moons ago (uploaded my first clip in 2009 I think - only started putting real effort into it in 2014), but they have started to plateau a bit in 2019. At this rate I'll make about the same as I did in 2018. I guess it's to be expected as I haven't been putting as much effort in as I should if I want to see sales continue to increase. I guess I'd better get some work done!

This month is about 10% higher than my second best month back in January...


SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2019, 15:03 »
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[2quote author=SuperPhoto link=topic=34361.msg534522#msg534522 date=1561644432]
Best month ever for me. They must have been playing with the search engine.

I'm curious - pretty much over the last year whenever someone has talked about a downward trend in stock - you have always piped up "OH BEST MONTH EVER FOR ME!"... is your small portfolio of video stock really always increasing like that? if so, I'm rather impressed it's doing that well, and that consistently...
Spacestockfootage has amazing animations - this is the reason his portfolio does so well
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Thanks!  :D


« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2019, 15:29 »
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Worst SS month since my second month there.

« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2019, 16:25 »
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I have to go back to July of 2011 to find a worse month.

« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2019, 00:39 »
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... yes, I`am experiencing the same right now... very slow with sudden ups and downs...

PZF

« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2019, 01:00 »
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Unfortunately, SS is just about the only game left in town.....despite everything

:(

« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2019, 06:25 »
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the fact that somebody with strong path of sales ion the last year is complain gin of a totally downward of sales trend, and in other forum again people who used to earn 10k and more month are now getting 2 3k of dollar, like getty contributor site where people with 30 to 70 k files of good to very good quality struggle to manage to makes ends meet, makes me think that the situation is not good at all, even if somebody is claiming superb month and a totally unpredictable sales level. first oral video and animation are a totally different beast than photo, the number of files in the collection and the number of download are totally inferior to those of photos, so it's clear there is more casualty in sales. the problem is that soon even prices of video and animation will fall to level where with the actual level of download earning something will be a miracle. it's only a matter of time.

« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2019, 06:28 »
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Unfortunately, SS is just about the only game left in town.....despite everything

:(


i agree despite all is the only agency in my opinion who still have some possibilities. they would raise the control of sales level for contributor and most of all clean their portfolio eliminating all those crap photos and useless contributor. i would accept 32 cent per photo minimum if they would do this, because it's clear that the only reason to accept new crap iOS to sale files with a royalty of 25 cent instead of 38. but i agree, as and is not even manage to give me one third of what ss makes this month. the problem is that 10 million images added every month are unsustainable. i'm still surprised that people keep uploading so much.

« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2019, 04:13 »
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this month has been the worst with SS. Other sites are decent. But SS... the last time was this bad in December 2016. But the June that was even worse was in 2014, when I had only about 2000 files online (now I have 15000).

Big difference.

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« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2019, 10:28 »
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What's the worst month of the year. Just one please.

And on average what's the best month of the year?

From my data over six years, the year looks like a sine wave.  It rises from January to February, starts a long decline to June, then climbs until September and October, then declines again until January.

So I'd say my worst months are typically January and June, and my best September or October.

and

Hi guys,
is anyone else facing a dramatic drop in sales?
last week things were normal, this week however, SS sales went down almost -40% (I don't think it's June!)
any idea  ??? ?
Thanks..

Yes, 50% down for a whole June comapred to May. Not normal. I am 3500+ port with regular uploading. This is not normal.

Or

2014 (locked thread) from someone who does diligent statistics and tracking: Stockmarketer

Thought I was having a decent start to June on SS, but this thread made me go and check my numbers from the first three days of June 2013.

first Sunday in June '14 vs '13: dls down 35%

first Monday in June '14 vs '13: dls down 32%

first Tuesday in June '14 vs '13: on track to be down about 30%

And my port size is about 35% higher than this time last year.

Depressing.


It's June and it seems every year, things get worse than ever for many people, in June and January.

« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2019, 12:53 »
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total stock income over the last decade:


   2009         18%   increase over previous year
2010         11%   
2011         26%   
2012         25%   
2013         4%   
2014         -3%   
2015         20%   
2016         4%   
2017         16%   
2018         -17%   
2019         -18%     extrapolated
 

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2019, 13:02 »
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total stock income over the last decade:


   2009         18%   increase over previous year
2010         11%   
2011         26%   
2012         25%   
2013         4%   
2014         -3%   
2015         20%   
2016         4%   
2017         16%   
2018         -17%   
2019         -18%     extrapolated

Have anything on June compared to the rest of the year or the rest of the Junes?

Change from the previous year, so 20% up over a -3 which was after a 4% slow year, is almost the same? 2018 sure was terrible, I say you did a better job than many, at holding up against the downward income trend. Nice work.

I searched for the poll, "What's Your Worth Month of the year. I'm pretty sure that June was the biggest loser, followed by January. But that was many years ago, things change.


« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2019, 23:56 »
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... very bad month here, too... definitely at 2014-2015 year levels... I hope they will stop playing with us, but it seem that footage side became new playground for experiments now... and not in mine favor...

« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2019, 02:34 »
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A pretty crap month with $150 with 3,000 plus images

However looking back over the last few years its either June or July that are crap months it seems to alternate between either month.

Only Xmas is usually as bad

« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2019, 02:55 »
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worst month in last 2 and a half year.

« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2019, 03:48 »
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June at SS was gone extremely well for the first 3 weeks, on pace to BME, after BME in May.
But, as often happens in these situations, nothing in the last week, so it ended up pretty mehhh. Not too bad, but pretty disappointing

« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2019, 04:02 »
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 :'( Nothing to say.

« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2019, 06:43 »
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My January was down $100 from Feb.
Then $20 less each month, from Feb, to March, to April, to May, to June.

I haven't submitted anything in the last 4 years.  This is to be expected, but I might start uploading some backlog stuff here and there just to see what happens.  I'll most likely be working for 50 cents an hour... it I tall up my earning by the end of 2020. ::)

Remember too that it's the summer slow-down.  Folks go on vacation, and whatnot.  eCommerce, eBay, and Amazon sales are hurting too right now. 

wds

« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2019, 08:08 »
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Poor month, but even though downloads were down, what really hurt was a lack of "high dollar" sales....mostly all little amounts.

« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2019, 12:53 »
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For me also, not a lot of sales
If I look to the poll results, it going down, the last months
AS also

Not so nice
My target was building a port (next year > 1000 images and some videos)
This is not good for my motivation

I think, it is time for a little (stock) break :)
« Last Edit: July 01, 2019, 13:02 by whosvegas »

« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2019, 19:25 »
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June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Earnings for me have been generally going up the last 12 months but from my graph its fairly clear to see video is where the effort/reward earnings seems to lie more and more.

In this 12 month period my image portfolio tripled in size,my video increase by 30% in size.


« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2019, 03:03 »
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June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Exactly the same for me. BME in 5 years


« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2019, 03:33 »
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June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Exactly the same for me. BME in 5 years

I strongly believe that they have altered the algorithm, June was worst for me and day one of July super bad, but congratulations to you guys.
Waiting for the fortune loop to come over again.

« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2019, 03:37 »
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June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Exactly the same for me. BME in 5 years

I strongly believe that they have altered the algorithm, June was worst for me and day one of July super bad, but congratulations to you guys.
Waiting for the fortune loop to come over again.
I think they are pretty much constantly tinkering with the Algorithm sometimes it hits hard on some.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2019, 07:51 »
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June ended up a BME due to strong video sales.

Exactly the same for me. BME in 5 years

I strongly believe that they have altered the algorithm, June was worst for me and day one of July super bad, but congratulations to you guys.
Waiting for the fortune loop to come over again.
I think they are pretty much constantly tinkering with the Algorithm sometimes it hits hard on some.

So people with the letters A or P are marked down and people with the letters D or G are placed higher?  ;D :o

Here's my opinion. Sometimes buyers need certain materials, sometimes they need other materials. June is generally a crappy month, but sometimes, some people will get higher sales, if they have something a buyer wants and needs. The whole site doesn't have to be manipulated to have ups and downs by seasons, or artists offerings. It's just what it is?

Back to the old days, when "everyone is lower in the search this month, they must have changed something!" Well everyone can't be lower, for mine to go back a page, something has to go forward a page. If they are playing with the algorithm, some would benefit and some would lose.

I just checked my test searches, for my work, and I'm still on page one where I was for some and page 14 where that one was and always has been. Everything else is just the same as it was... and has been for going on five years now. No Change in the search. Unless of course only some people get changed? I've been watching for five years, and my images may move a little up or down, but never as bad as some folks who say they were page one and are now unable to find their work or page 12 or something. That's impossible to explain and happened around 2012 when there actually was a huge change in the way the search ranked our works.

ps yes my June was horrible compared to other months, and June 2019 was better than every other June since I started, except 2018 (which had an EL). But 2019 is hardly notable, as it's roughly only $2-3 better than 2017, 2016 or 2015.  In other words, my stinky Junes are about the same, year after year.  :(

« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2019, 08:26 »
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As I guessed, worst since 2/2013.

« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2019, 08:52 »
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... obviously a change in algorithm... right now, I`m on bad side...

« Reply #62 on: July 02, 2019, 13:02 »
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Very good begin of July for me, today sold my first video :)

« Reply #63 on: July 02, 2019, 13:55 »
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I have to go back to May 2007 to find a worse month. I had about 250 images then (less at the start of the month, a few more at the end). The downward trend since ~2012 for me seems to be accelerating.

« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2019, 20:14 »
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Agree. Last 6 Months. terrible. 7000 Images.I feel Like laughing. Thats about all I can do.

« Reply #65 on: July 05, 2019, 01:03 »
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July looks like its got off to a bad start too :(



 

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