Quote from: increasingdifficulty on June 01, 2017, 08:07

Quote from: sarah2 on May 30, 2017, 09:34

Not all of us have access to spacemen etc. Unfortunately.

Actually, you do. It's all public domain from NASA.

Yes?

Yes.

Quote from: jonbull on June 01, 2017, 08:09

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on June 01, 2017, 08:07

Quote from: sarah2 on May 30, 2017, 09:34

Not all of us have access to spacemen etc. Unfortunately.

Actually, you do. It's all public domain from NASA.

Yes?

Yes.

Now i will pay some designer in kiev, 300 dollar could be enough for them for months, to investigate this and produce content, this niche seems unspoilt.

Now i will pay some designer in kiev, 300 dollar could be enough for them for months, to investigate this and produce content, this niche seems unspoilt.

Could be a good plan until they find out they would make 10 times more selling it directly themselves.

Quote from: jonbull on June 01, 2017, 08:20

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on June 01, 2017, 08:10

I can't be the only one who doesn't find it strange that there are lots of contributors from the 9th biggest population in the world?

so we shouldnt complain that with 150 milion file is difficult to sell....bevause of 150 million more than half come from there, thats the point.
So why there are so few indian and china contriboutor, 3 billion people.

You can complain all you want. What's the point? Close down the internet?

You live with the global competition or you find something else to do.

In China large parts of the internet are closed and they have Chinese copies of almost every big website.

I see plenty of Indian contributors.

so we can close this forum.....s not about complaint. is about reality. indian account for 0,5% of russia producer maybe even less.
i have a raise in earning this year, i simply underline that for some category, food and lifestyle is difficult to to spamming of images.
persoanlly i hope we go back to strictly limit of uploading and control of quality.
personally i have already decide to go their way. produce thousand of files, where it  cost penny, use talents in these country in those category i dont' have skill, like design and animation.
i have already a business plan, and all the people. i will employ 12 people from september, whose salary will cost no more than 2 skilled designer in america probably. at the beginning will cost a bit in terms of investment, but it will repay easy, and for me is the only way to earn good money, who are not 2000 dollar month.

Thats it!!  In Russia, Ukraine, Philipines, Poland 10 bucks a day goes a long way so they dont need to work too much but spend their time uploading, uploading and thats it! we who live in much more expensive countries etc cant really do that.

Russia is nowhere near as cheap as you think. Maybe do a bit of research? $10 doesn't get you far in Russia and you won't get by for an hour in Moscow.

Clothing and shoes are much more expensive in Russia for example, just like most countries compared to the US.

indian account for 0,5% of russia producer maybe even less.

Source?

Quote from: jonbull on June 01, 2017, 08:42

indian account for 0,5% of russia producer maybe even less.

Source?

considering that one producer from ukraine account for 120000 images...probably near all the indian production

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on June 01, 2017, 13:45

Quote from: jonbull on June 01, 2017, 08:42

indian account for 0,5% of russia producer maybe even less.

Source?

its a feeling considering that i struggle to find indian producer with more than 50000 images. there is a page with a list per country .
have you been to russia?

You're just throwing out random numbers based on feelings... That is beyond pointless.

I have not been to Russia but I have been here:

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Russia&displayCurrency=USD

and here:

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Russia/United-States/Cost-of-living

Quote from: jonbull on June 01, 2017, 14:46

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on June 01, 2017, 13:45

Quote from: jonbull on June 01, 2017, 08:42

indian account for 0,5% of russia producer maybe even less.

Source?

its a feeling considering that i struggle to find indian producer with more than 50000 images. there is a page with a list per country .
have you been to russia?

You're just throwing out random numbers based on feelings... That is beyond pointless.

I have not been to Russia but I have been here:

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Russia&displayCurrency=USD

and here:

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Russia/United-States/Cost-of-living

still much less in ukraine and belarus, and still much less than europe. in addiction outside moscow th situation is much comparable to kiev than moscow.
sure not 10 dollar but 40 dollar day can easily let you live a good life, not a luxury one.
anyone i don't care talk with you. u are happy that from russia they upload 100 million file for year? good for u.

as we said in moscow is one thing , st petersburg is still good cry

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Chelyabinsk?displayCurrency=USD

chelbyank is home of the most famous house of production of russia, pressfoto, just to say, most of russian producer live outside moscow,

Average Monthly Net Salary (After Tax)   445.07 $   

this is for a big industrial city...PANIMAISH? UNderstand=? how can u compete with people who are happy with 500 dollar to live according to statistic?
with 500 dollar i cannot even eat one month in europe.

Yekaterinburg

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Yekaterinburg?displayCurrency=USD

Average Monthly Net Salary (After Tax)   576.64 $   

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Kiev?displayCurrency=USD

Kiev

Average Monthly Net Salary (After Tax)   281.52 $   

understand genius?

That's great and all, but what is your point in all of this? It's not going to stop contributors from all over the world from uploading. Every new upload gets buried in the search results until someone start downloading it. That's the reality for every contributor, not just you. SS isn't made for just you, it's a platform for everyone.

Complaining about other contributors...and I think we have some Russian contributors here, isn't going to change anything. It won't make your images sell better or improve your search results. It accomplishes nothing.

we are trying to understand why zero download from somebody who never had this. this is one of the consideration that must be done. as i said i already spend most of year in a country of soviet era...paying low salary, producing like pressfoto, and hope to enjoy a new era of earning, in september i will open my house of producionat low cost.

That's good for you. But what is there to understand? If someone gets 3 downloads the previous day and then get 0, the difference is only 3. If someone has 100 downloads a day and the next day is 0, then it's real problem.

There are 125 Million images on there. There's a lot of competition. The only thing we can all do is understand why our work doesn't sell as well as others and find ways to improve it.

still much less in ukraine and belarus, and still much less than europe. in addiction outside moscow th situation is much comparable to kiev than moscow.
sure not 10 dollar but 40 dollar day can easily let you live a good life, not a luxury one.
anyone i don't care talk with you. u are happy that from russia they upload 100 million file for year? good for u.

I'm neither happy nor sad about it. It's a fact of life and I work with it.

Mosquitos and ticks exist. I'm not too happy about it but it's a fact of life and I live with it.

You can live (quite OK) on $40 per day in almost any country. In Sweden that's what students live (a bit less) on and they have quite a bit of money left over to party and travel...

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Average income and cost of living is NOT the same thing. Americans have a much higher average income compared to their cost of living, which means they have lots of extra money to consume things they don't need. That is not the case for Russia which means that online alternatives might be better for them.

We were discussing cost of living here. Not average income. They are not the same!

You also need to look at cheaper cities in the US then, like Memphis for example.

Things like gym membership and clothing are cheaper in Memphis. Even owning a car. Utilities same level. Only rent is significantly more expensive.