Author Topic: -1 Button - Good or Bad? (Read 5876 times)

CD123 · « **on:** December 27, 2012, 20:24 »

Just read a thread where 3 x -1 was awarded to 3 posts (2 people), where they where in mere discussion, trying to establish what the OP's problem was. Now you might say that that is only my opinion that they did not deserve the treatment and that whoever gave the -1's had the full right to decide that he/she did not like the posts. Which is probably right, as I had the right to change them back with +1's again.

I am just afraid that the little down button might change into a vendetta thing, just marking people down a person do not like.

Does the -1 actually get deducted from a persons hearts count Leaf?

I personally think that the -1 is a nice feature in responsible grownup's hands, but unfortunately it is not only them using it on the site. What do you think?

gostwyck · « **Reply #1 on:** December 27, 2012, 20:40 »

Quote from: CD123 on December 27, 2012, 20:24

Just read a thread where 3 x -1 was awarded to 3 posts (2 people), where they where in mere discussion, trying to establish what the OP's problem was. Now you might say that that is only my opinion that they did not deserve the treatment and that whoever gave the -1's had the full right to decide that he/she did not like the posts. Which is probably right, as I had the right to change them back with +1's again.

I am just afraid that the little down button might change into a vendetta thing, just marking people down a person do not like.

Does the -1 actually get deducted from a persons hearts count Leaf?

I personally think that the -1 is a nice feature in responsible grownup's hands, but unfortunately it is not only them using it on the site. What do you think?

<sigh> I think we should appoint you as our Editor-In-Chief to decide who should and who should not give pluses and minuses, and when, according to how you personally feel about any issue. Would that make you feel better? If so I'll start a poll so we can vote for you __ or not.

Btw, no, minus points do not subtract from your Heart collection. Get over it, it's really not important, let's just discuss the subject of the threads and stop worrying about it.

lisafx · « **Reply #2 on:** December 27, 2012, 22:29 »

I'm not a fan of the -1 button, but I will admit to having used it. Don't care a whole lot whether it goes or stays.

I am glad to hear it doesn't take away from the hearts collection. I thought it did. Even though it's silly, I do like getting the hearts

Pixart · « **Reply #3 on:** December 27, 2012, 22:35 »

I would rather see it AND the heart button at the same time = i,e. 5 likes 18 dislikes rather than -1 + 1 = 0

leaf · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2012, 00:09 »

The minuses don't contribute to your overall total.

I agree pixart. It would be better to se how many of each vote there is. I'll try and code that in the new year. It isn't an option by default.

CD123 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2012, 00:41 »

And still, only YOU allowed to have an opinion on the forums? Maybe you should start your own forum, where only you can post and you can decide which posts are WORTHY by ALL to be reacted to:

Quote from: gostwyck on December 27, 2012, 20:25

Who really cares about the odd rejection or Istock's absurd CV anyway?

(from RacePhoto's thread)
and

Quote from: gostwyck on December 27, 2012, 20:40

Get over it, it's really not important, let's just discuss the subject of the threads and stop worrying about it.

It seems like another position has been filled: Content Worthiness Reviewer. I am sure it will give you the obviously much needed power and authority. <sigh>

[You do not care about these threads, yet you have to post in all of them

]

CD123 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2012, 00:44 »

Quote from: Pixart on December 27, 2012, 22:35

I would rather see it AND the heart button at the same time = i,e. 5 likes 18 dislikes rather than -1 + 1 = 0

Sounds like a great idea. Thank you Leaf for looking into it. Will not stop the personal attacks scenario, but will add a lot of extra transparency.

Nice to see a positive result coming from what "some" might classify as another worthless thread

leaf · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2012, 08:38 »

... Also, The negative votes you were referring to in that one thread were not voted by one troll voter but rather the two people who posted and simply disagreed with eacother.

CD123 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2012, 09:21 »

Quote from: leaf on December 28, 2012, 08:38

... Also, The negative votes you were referring to in that one thread were not voted by one troll voter but rather the two people who posted and simply disagreed with eacother.

Point taken. Still the question remained if it is open for misuse. Thank you for your earlier reply, to make it more transparent.

lisafx · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2012, 12:49 »

Quote from: Pixart on December 27, 2012, 22:35

I would rather see it AND the heart button at the same time = i,e. 5 likes 18 dislikes rather than -1 + 1 = 0

Great idea Lorraine! You get a heart from me for this one

Thanks for looking into implementing it Tyler!

RacePhoto · « **Reply #10 on:** December 29, 2012, 20:24 »

Quote from: leaf on December 28, 2012, 08:38

... Also, The negative votes you were referring to in that one thread were not voted by one troll voter but rather the two people who posted and simply disagreed with eacother.

One vote per person right? How would a troll vote more? Oh maybe you shouldn't answer, it might give people ideas.

But we only get one vote right?

leaf · « **Reply #11 on:** December 29, 2012, 20:26 »

Quote from: RacePhoto on December 29, 2012, 20:24

Quote from: leaf on December 28, 2012, 08:38
... Also, The negative votes you were referring to in that one thread were not voted by one troll voter but rather the two people who posted and simply disagreed with eacother.

One vote per person right? How would a troll vote more? Oh maybe you shouldn't answer, it might give people ideas.

But we only get one vote right?

Yes, one vote

gillian vann · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2013, 17:26 »

perhaps it would be better that we only had a set number of + & -'s to hand out? then they might be used more wisely.
although that would also stop us freely sharing the love, which is not a good thing.

In my house now we have a new habit of saying "minus 1" when ppl do things wrong, but it's pretty tongue in cheek.

leaf · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2013, 17:51 »

I think it would be nice if we could think of a different graphic that wasn't so 'downish'. The "-" is simply to say you disagree, nothing more nefarious than that... often it is seen as an attack. We should be able to receive a minus without needing to feel attacked. We need an icon that symbolizes disagree.

PeterChigmaroff · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2013, 18:06 »

Quote from: leaf on January 03, 2013, 17:51

I think it would be nice if we could think of a different graphic that wasn't so 'downish'. The "-" is simply to say you disagree, nothing more nefarious than that... often it is seen as an attack. We should be able to receive a minus without needing to feel attacked. We need an icon that symbolizes disagree.

I'm not sure that is possible. Many people feel attacked the second someone doesn't say "wow great idea". Like GWB said "you are with us or against us".

luissantos84 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2013, 18:16 »

Quote from: leaf on January 03, 2013, 17:51

I think it would be nice if we could think of a different graphic that wasn't so 'downish'. The "-" is simply to say you disagree, nothing more nefarious than that... often it is seen as an attack. We should be able to receive a minus without needing to feel attacked. We need an icon that symbolizes disagree.

I agree, curious that we don't have it on FB

gillian vann · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2013, 18:17 »

there's a lot of people wishing there was a "dislike" button on fb though.

cathyslife · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2013, 18:50 »

Quote from: Zeus on January 03, 2013, 18:06

Quote from: leaf on January 03, 2013, 17:51
I think it would be nice if we could think of a different graphic that wasn't so 'downish'. The "-" is simply to say you disagree, nothing more nefarious than that... often it is seen as an attack. We should be able to receive a minus without needing to feel attacked. We need an icon that symbolizes disagree.

I'm not sure that is possible. Many people feel attacked the second someone doesn't say "wow great idea". Like GWB said "you are with us or against us".

I can't believe people are being so sensitive about a plus or minus symbol! No one in your lives has disagreed with you before? For gosh sakes, you don't even have to confront people face to face! We have had the ignore feature for a long time. Leaf took away the feature where we could see how many people ignored us, probably somebody's feelings were hurt over that. I wore that like a badge of honor! Grow some skin, people!

I see the symbols have changed to a up and down arrow. That's cool, too.

leaf · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2013, 18:57 »

Quote from: cclapper on January 03, 2013, 18:50

I see the symbols have changed to a up and down arrow. That's cool, too.

no, that's just a caching issue after the little update. The hearts will be back soon.

ShadySue · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2013, 19:56 »

Quote from: vannphoto on January 03, 2013, 18:17

there's a lot of people wishing there was a "dislike" button on fb though.

Better still IMO if there was a dislike button FOR fb.

fotografer · « **Reply #20 on:** January 04, 2013, 03:59 »

I was actually pleased when I got a couple of negatives on a post I wrote as it made me think twice before I post, about how things can be taken in a way you didn't mean them to.

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