Author Topic: Agree not agree (Read 36156 times)

Pauws99 · « **on:** June 09, 2015, 15:11 »

I've been looking at a few threads today and noticed a lot of "Disagree" negatives for people asking simple question or reporting facts. Shouldn't as a community be encouraging people rather than coming across as a bunch of know it all miserable gits who don't want to help or encourage anyone to join our exclusive club of self appointed experts?

cthoman · « **Reply #1 on:** June 09, 2015, 15:31 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on June 09, 2015, 15:11

I've been looking at a few threads today and noticed a lot of "Disagree" negatives for people asking simple question or reporting facts. Shouldn't as a community be encouraging people rather than coming across as a bunch of know it all miserable gits who don't want to help or encourage anyone to join our exclusive club of self appointed experts?

If that worked, then I'd definitely spend more time being disagreeable. They keep joining anyway though.

cathyslife · « **Reply #2 on:** June 09, 2015, 15:47 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on June 09, 2015, 15:11

I've been looking at a few threads today and noticed a lot of "Disagree" negatives for people asking simple question or reporting facts. Shouldn't as a community be encouraging people rather than coming across as a bunch of know it all miserable gits who don't want to help or encourage anyone to join our exclusive club of self appointed experts?

Just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they are being a know-it-all. If someone said "I had a great day today on SS" I would have to disagree, because I am NOT having a great day on SS. That doesn't mean I begrudge the person for having a great day. Does everyone in your life always agree with you? I thought not.

tickstock · « **Reply #3 on:** June 09, 2015, 15:55 »

The whole thing should be scrapped, it doesn't belong on a forum for professionals (which this claims to be).

PixelBytes · « **Reply #4 on:** June 09, 2015, 15:58 »

Quote from: tickstock on June 09, 2015, 15:55

The whole thing should be scrapped, it doesn't belong on a forum for professionals (which this claims to be).

100% agree on that.

fotografer · « **Reply #5 on:** June 09, 2015, 16:31 »

I think most people have got used to having a 'like' button like on fb and often just want to put if they agree or don't without having to type anything. I don't know why people get so worked up over such a trivial thing. If you don't like it ignore it, some people enjoy the feature.

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #6 on:** June 09, 2015, 16:37 »

You can disagree with a statement but I dont see how you can disagree with a fact.

To use Cathy's example, if someone said I had a good day on SS, how can I disagree with that? That person had a good day, what is there to disagree with? If they said today was a good day on SS I could disagree. I guess its down to semantics.

Anyway, the disagreements in this thread just dont make sense at all. How does one agree with a question? Or someone expressing their feeling?
http://www.microstockgroup.com/alamy-com/payment-25200/msg421311/?topicseen#msg421311

How does this make sense: What time does the train leave tomorrow? I disagree!

Pauws99 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 09, 2015, 17:22 »

"I got the email telling me my payment was due and my account is now zeroed - no paypal payment received yet - is this a normal waiting time? thanks"

How in any logical sense can anyone agree or disagree with the above?

PixelBytes · « **Reply #8 on:** June 09, 2015, 17:25 »

Though clearly not the original intent, I think a lot of the above examples of downvotes are less about disagreement and more about STFU.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 09, 2015, 17:31 »

"Just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they are being a know-it-all. If someone said "I had a great day today on SS" I would have to disagree, because I am NOT having a great day on SS."

NO!!! they are still having a great day If I said it was raining here would you disagree if it wasn't raining on the other side of the world?

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #10 on:** June 09, 2015, 17:34 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 09, 2015, 17:25

Though clearly not the original intent, I think a lot of the above examples of downvotes are less about disagreement and more about STFU.

I agree, what a great community. It looked like it had settled down a bit lately, I suppose you cant kill weed.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 09, 2015, 17:36 »

Yep I'm writing lots now just to annoy people

Me · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2015, 23:45 »

I guess you can disagree with a "fact" if you don't believe it is a fact. How do I know that your BDE is your BDE and you are not just posting that to wind people up that are moaning about dwindling sales?

Someone saying something doesn't make it so.

leaf · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2015, 00:14 »

it seems many people take more offense to the agree / disagree buttons than intended. People get worked up for getting a single -

The point of it was to simply give a reader an idea of how popular / unpopular an idea was... if most people agreed or disagreed. Sometimes someone can make a comment and it looks just as valid as every other comment until you see how many people actually agree or disagree with it.

That said - how things are supposed to work and how they work in practice are two different things. The disagree button seems to be spreading more hate than it is help. Perhaps that button should be done away while keeping the agree button.

Fatmanphoto · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2015, 01:37 »

Quote from: cathyslife on June 09, 2015, 15:47

Quote from: Pauws99 on June 09, 2015, 15:11
I've been looking at a few threads today and noticed a lot of "Disagree" negatives for people asking simple question or reporting facts. Shouldn't as a community be encouraging people rather than coming across as a bunch of know it all miserable gits who don't want to help or encourage anyone to join our exclusive club of self appointed experts?

Just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they are being a know-it-all. If someone said "I had a great day today on SS" I would have to disagree, because I am NOT having a great day on SS. That doesn't mean I begrudge the person for having a great day. Does everyone in your life always agree with you? I thought not.

It is a pet hate of mine, so I will bloody mindedly disagree with anyone on the internet who poses a rhetorical question and then either answer or assume the answer themselves.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 10, 2015, 02:47 »

Quote from: Fatmanphoto on June 10, 2015, 01:37

Quote from: cathyslife on June 09, 2015, 15:47
Quote from: Pauws99 on June 09, 2015, 15:11
I've been looking at a few threads today and noticed a lot of "Disagree" negatives for people asking simple question or reporting facts. Shouldn't as a community be encouraging people rather than coming across as a bunch of know it all miserable gits who don't want to help or encourage anyone to join our exclusive club of self appointed experts?

Just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they are being a know-it-all. If someone said "I had a great day today on SS" I would have to disagree, because I am NOT having a great day on SS. That doesn't mean I begrudge the person for having a great day. Does everyone in your life always agree with you? I thought not.

It is a pet hate of mine, so I will bloody mindedly disagree with anyone on the internet who poses a rhetorical question and then either answer or assume the answer themselves.

And how does this help anyone or add value? Perhaps if you feel this is bad practice you should say so and why? Personally I think its overly pedantic

Pauws99 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 10, 2015, 02:52 »

Actually I quite like getting a few - ves if I put an OPINION it usually means I'm on to something! but its just irritating when you see them where someone is asking a question or stating a fact.

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #17 on:** June 10, 2015, 03:01 »

Pauws99, It's called Democracy! :-)

http://www.microstockgroup.com/selling-direct/give-me-a-like-on-my-facebook-page-)/msg419134/#msg419134

StockPhotosArt.com · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2015, 03:30 »

Quote from: leaf on June 10, 2015, 00:14

it seems many people take more offense to the agree / disagree buttons than intended. People get worked up for getting a single -

The point of it was to simply give a reader an idea of how popular / unpopular an idea was... if most people agreed or disagreed. Sometimes someone can make a comment and it looks just as valid as every other comment until you see how many people actually agree or disagree with it.

That said - how things are supposed to work and how they work in practice are two different things. The disagree button seems to be spreading more hate than it is help. Perhaps that button should be done away while keeping the agree button.

I complete agree with this option. It's better to have things on the positive side. If someone says something that others consider interesting, than that's what should be highlighted (already is).

If someone says something that others do not agree, then let them disagree by expressing their opinion, hopefully with good arguments contributing to the discussion.

The Disagree button ends up being used too many times as a personal vendetta against a member, and not as a reaction to what has been written. Without knowing why other people disagree, sometimes regarding a basic question, it's easy to get offended.

I'm in favor to keep things positive and minimize the risks of conflict, which in a forum is an "hourly" issue.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 10, 2015, 03:39 »

Quote from: KnowYourOnions on June 10, 2015, 03:01

Pauws99, It's called Democracy! :-)

http://www.microstockgroup.com/selling-direct/give-me-a-like-on-my-facebook-page-)/msg419134/#msg419134

No its called free speech nothing to do with Democracy

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #20 on:** June 10, 2015, 03:47 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on June 10, 2015, 03:39

Quote from: KnowYourOnions on June 10, 2015, 03:01
Pauws99, It's called Democracy! :-)

http://www.microstockgroup.com/selling-direct/give-me-a-like-on-my-facebook-page-)/msg419134/#msg419134

No its called free speech nothing to do with Democracy

MSG is called a democracy because power resides not in a few people but in the majority of our members.

http://www.speakerscornertrust.org/library/about-free-speech/free-speech-and-democracy/

cathyslife · « **Reply #21 on:** June 10, 2015, 06:01 »

Quote from: leaf on June 10, 2015, 00:14

it seems many people take more offense to the agree / disagree buttons than intended. People get worked up for getting a single -

The point of it was to simply give a reader an idea of how popular / unpopular an idea was... if most people agreed or disagreed. Sometimes someone can make a comment and it looks just as valid as every other comment until you see how many people actually agree or disagree with it.

That said - how things are supposed to work and how they work in practice are two different things. The disagree button seems to be spreading more hate than it is help. Perhaps that button should be done away while keeping the agree button.

I disagree.

I know the disagree button is sometimes used as a vendetta, I have experienced that myself. But I knew who was giving the minuses and why they were. Even though it seemed childish, they have the right to feel how they feel. It doesn't change who I am or how I feel.

I disagree with a lot of things and use the button to say so, but there isn't any point in posting why I disagreed, because most times, someone else has already posted my answer. If there isn't a disagree button, there are going to be tons of posts, all saying the same thing.

People will find some way to express their disapproval or hate, as evidenced by the number of arguments that ensue in just about every thread. I look at it in the opposite way...I think it's better to have 10 disagree minus signs on a post than it is to have 10 arguing, egotistical rants. Just my opinion.

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #22 on:** June 10, 2015, 07:49 »

Quote from: cathyslife on June 10, 2015, 06:01

Quote from: leaf on June 10, 2015, 00:14
it seems many people take more offense to the agree / disagree buttons than intended. People get worked up for getting a single -

The point of it was to simply give a reader an idea of how popular / unpopular an idea was... if most people agreed or disagreed. Sometimes someone can make a comment and it looks just as valid as every other comment until you see how many people actually agree or disagree with it.

That said - how things are supposed to work and how they work in practice are two different things. The disagree button seems to be spreading more hate than it is help. Perhaps that button should be done away while keeping the agree button.

I disagree. I know the disagree button is sometimes used as a vendetta, I have experienced that myself. But I knew who was giving the minuses and why they were. Even though it seemed childish, they have the right to feel how they feel. It doesn't change who I am or how I feel.

I disagree with a lot of things and use the button to say so, but there isn't any point in posting why I disagreed, because most times, someone else has already posted my answer. If there isn't a disagree button, there are going to be tons of posts, all saying the same thing.

People will find some way to express their disapproval or hate, as evidenced by the number of arguments that ensue in just about every thread. I look at it in the opposite way...I think it's better to have 10 disagree minus signs on a post than it is to have 10 arguing, egotistical rants. Just my opinion.

Obviously, when someone posts a comment to disagree, that comment can still be voted up. So the part is bold is unlikely to happen. People will just agree with the disagreement.

tickstock · « **Reply #23 on:** June 10, 2015, 09:13 »

Quote from: leaf on June 10, 2015, 00:14

it seems many people take more offense to the agree / disagree buttons than intended. People get worked up for getting a single -

The point of it was to simply give a reader an idea of how popular / unpopular an idea was... if most people agreed or disagreed. Sometimes someone can make a comment and it looks just as valid as every other comment until you see how many people actually agree or disagree with it.

That said - how things are supposed to work and how they work in practice are two different things. The disagree button seems to be spreading more hate than it is help. Perhaps that button should be done away while keeping the agree button.

First post I've agreed (or disagreed) with in probably a year. Get rid of it

Pauws99 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 10, 2015, 09:53 »

Quote from: KnowYourOnions on June 10, 2015, 03:47

Quote from: Pauws99 on June 10, 2015, 03:39
Quote from: KnowYourOnions on June 10, 2015, 03:01
Pauws99, It's called Democracy! :-)

http://www.microstockgroup.com/selling-direct/give-me-a-like-on-my-facebook-page-)/msg419134/#msg419134

No its called free speech nothing to do with Democracy

Thought I'd stop now but can't resist......What power?

MSG is called a democracy because power resides not in a few people but in the majority of our members.

http://www.speakerscornertrust.org/library/about-free-speech/free-speech-and-democracy/

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