Author Topic: Agree not agree (Read 36145 times)

fotografer · « **Reply #50 on:** June 11, 2015, 07:51 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on June 11, 2015, 04:13

Mind you people have been nailed to a cross for that!

Be careful with this as it could start off a whole new argument

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #51 on:** June 11, 2015, 11:02 »

Quote from: fotografer on June 11, 2015, 07:51

Quote from: Pauws99 on June 11, 2015, 04:13
Mind you people have been nailed to a cross for that!
Be careful with this as it could start off a whole new argument

Ha ha true that! shhhh

wordplanet · « **Reply #52 on:** June 11, 2015, 11:21 »

IMHO knowing who agreed or disagreed (like being able to see who "likes" a post on FB) might encourage more civil behavior. It would have the added advantage of letting people will know who actually voted down their posts rather than guessing incorrectly and getting annoyed at the worong people for voting their opinions down. It also lets the person posting gauge whether those whose opinions they value more or less are the ones who share or disagree with their ideas.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #53 on:** June 11, 2015, 14:04 »

Thanks for being open to try this Leaf! I think it might improve the atmosphere.

Digital66 · « **Reply #54 on:** June 11, 2015, 21:46 »

Quote from: leaf on June 10, 2015, 00:14

The disagree button seems to be spreading more hate than it is help. Perhaps that button should be done away while keeping the agree button.

-1

Pilens · « **Reply #55 on:** June 11, 2015, 22:08 »

Quote from: leaf on June 10, 2015, 00:14

The disagree button seems to be spreading more hate than it is help. Perhaps that button should be done away while keeping the agree button.

-1, too

ShadySue · « **Reply #56 on:** June 12, 2015, 06:35 »

I preferred the old system which kept a running total of both positives and negatives. It showed which topics and posts had raised most interest, which had completely divided opinion and where opinion was polarised.

leaf · « **Reply #57 on:** June 12, 2015, 11:08 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 12, 2015, 06:35

I preferred the old system which kept a running total of both positives and negatives. It showed which topics and posts had raised most interest, which had completely divided opinion and where opinion was polarised.

There was never a running total of +'s and -'s ... just a summed up number. There will still be a list of the most liked posts like before. I agree, the most ideal would be to show how many +'s and how many -s ... that option isn't the in the plug-in and it's a little too daunting for me to attempt to make it.

gbalex · « **Reply #58 on:** June 12, 2015, 14:30 »

Actually I think having the ability to show that you "do not agree" is less confrontational than the only remaining option of stating why using text.

I prefer the less benign method of letting someone know I do not agree.

Letting someone know I do not hold the same viewpoints, does not mean that I do not value their viewpoint, it just means we agree to disagree.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #59 on:** June 12, 2015, 15:12 »

Quote from: gbalex on June 12, 2015, 14:30

Actually I think having the ability to show that you "do not agree" is less confrontational than the only remaining option of stating why using text.

Now we have people skirting the issue by copying whole posts and just putting -1 or 'I disagree', which is as pointless as the button and adds nothing of value to the conversation.

If people disagree with a post they should be able to come up with a reason.

cathyslife · « **Reply #60 on:** June 12, 2015, 17:24 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 12, 2015, 15:12

Quote from: gbalex on June 12, 2015, 14:30
Actually I think having the ability to show that you "do not agree" is less confrontational than the only remaining option of stating why using text.

Now we have people skirting the issue by copying whole posts and just putting -1 or 'I disagree', which is as pointless as the button and adds nothing of value to the conversation.

If people disagree with a post they should be able to come up with a reason.

No, i disagree. People that agree dont have to come up with a reason.

Digital66 · « **Reply #61 on:** June 12, 2015, 20:18 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 12, 2015, 15:12

Quote from: gbalex on June 12, 2015, 14:30
Actually I think having the ability to show that you "do not agree" is less confrontational than the only remaining option of stating why using text.

Now we have people skirting the issue by copying whole posts and just putting -1 or 'I disagree', which is as pointless as the button and adds nothing of value to the conversation.

If people disagree with a post they should be able to come up with a reason.

-1

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #62 on:** June 12, 2015, 20:54 »

I think there should be a Mega once a month 10X bonus Agree button. In which case your post would get it for June.

+10 on what you wrote.

Quote from: gbalex on June 12, 2015, 14:30

Letting someone know I do not hold the same viewpoints, does not mean that I do not value their viewpoint, it just means we agree to disagree.

Too late now. - or disagree has been removed, so we can all have "good thoughts" and be a bunch of good little robots and create the impression of tacit approval of some of the trash that people post about imaginary situations or sales figures.

My personal view on this is, remove all of it and lets go back to writing messages, with our personal opinions, so the poster knows who's making a comment.

Also the same as my view of no anonymous trolls, but that gets all kinds of negatives. Oh wait - maybe this plus only isn't such a bad idea?

What I'm saying very simply is for both, a person should stand behind their opinion and words and not be clicking minus for hate and shouldn't be posting opinions for agencies and artists subjects, as anonymous.

I don't see why people can be anonymous and post personal hate messages about agencies, but can't click disagree, because we are too sensitive and offended.

Block both or neither.

Meanwhile gbalex gets my plus ten for the month.

I agree to agree.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #63 on:** June 12, 2015, 23:04 »

Never mind. Its a waste of time debating with people whose whole contribution to a conversation is -1, and don't even have the brains or balls to back it up.

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #64 on:** June 13, 2015, 01:01 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 12, 2015, 23:04

Never mind. Its a waste of time debating with people whose whole contribution to a conversation is -1, and don't even have the brains or balls to back it up.

+100

StockPhotosArt.com · « **Reply #65 on:** June 13, 2015, 01:38 »

If this is an forum used by ADULTS, where the discussion of ideas is the most important factor, than I do not see any value in th Minus button.

The people who disagree have the option to write an answer stating why they think differently, or to give a positive vote to an answer that state the reasons why they disagree.

To me, saying No without any further explanation in an adult environment is offensive, because it's treating adults as children. Children at a certain age need to hear No and simply No, because at their stage of development they do not understand complex reasons. But little after they start needing justifications to understand and accept the No. If this is an ADULT and PROFESSIONAL forum, than voting down without any further reasoning is treating adults as little children.

I do not see how removing the Disagree button makes people a "bunch of good little robots" as mentioned earlier. In fact it's the opposite. You can program a robot to press indefinitely a Minus or Disagree button, but you can't make it reply in an intelligent manner.

gbalex · « **Reply #66 on:** June 13, 2015, 03:26 »

I do not expect everyone to agree with my viewpoints and when they do not, I do not find it troubling when they simply choose to disagree. I certainly have had my fair share of - votes on this forum for my views and at times I deserved them as my ego rears its ugly head from time to time.

It would be presumptuous of me to expect that everyone has the time to debate differences in opinion, every time theirs do not mesh me mine. After all we all have different life experiences and it is a given we will not always agree.

I don't think it is my right to choose how someone presents themselves on this forum or how they choose to communicate with their fellows.

Fatmanphoto · « **Reply #67 on:** June 13, 2015, 05:20 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 12, 2015, 15:12

Quote from: gbalex on June 12, 2015, 14:30
Actually I think having the ability to show that you "do not agree" is less confrontational than the only remaining option of stating why using text.

Now we have people skirting the issue by copying whole posts and just putting -1 or 'I disagree', which is as pointless as the button and adds nothing of value to the conversation.

If people disagree with a post they should be able to come up with a reason.

Funnily, I never saw it like that. I think this started as a joke and has become a running gag. With an element of kicking back at the loss of a function (reminds me of when Disney emailed employees telling them to stop referring to the corporation they work for as Mousewitz, within hours it was being called Duckchau).

cathyslife · « **Reply #68 on:** June 13, 2015, 06:17 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 12, 2015, 23:04

Never mind. Its a waste of time debating with people whose whole contribution to a conversation is -1, and don't even have the brains or balls to back it up.

-100

I want to see the brains and balls of everyone posting a + too.

cathyslife · « **Reply #69 on:** June 13, 2015, 06:22 »

Quote from: StockPhotosArt on June 13, 2015, 01:38

If this is an forum used by ADULTS, where the discussion of ideas is the most important factor, than I do not see any value in th Minus button.

The people who disagree have the option to write an answer stating why they think differently, or to give a positive vote to an answer that state the reasons why they disagree.

To me, saying No without any further explanation in an adult environment is offensive, because it's treating adults as children. Children at a certain age need to hear No and simply No, because at their stage of development they do not understand complex reasons. But little after they start needing justifications to understand and accept the No. If this is an ADULT and PROFESSIONAL forum, than voting down without any further reasoning is treating adults as little children.

I do not see how removing the Disagree button makes people a "bunch of good little robots" as mentioned earlier. In fact it's the opposite. You can program a robot to press indefinitely a Minus or Disagree button, but you can't make it reply in an intelligent manner.

I disagree.

Pushing a plus button doesnt show any intelligence either. If people have to give a reason for disagreeing then they should have to give a reason for agreeing too. Either treat adults EQUALLY as adults, or scrap the - or + thing altogether.

cathyslife · « **Reply #70 on:** June 13, 2015, 06:33 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 12, 2015, 23:04

Never mind. Its a waste of time debating with people whose whole contribution to a conversation is -1, and don't even have the brains or balls to back it up.

You automatically assume it has to do with brains or balls. Maybe people dont have a whole lot of time to write out a long discussion of their opinion but want to contribute however they can by using the agree or disagree. Maybe some people arent quite as eloquent with their writing as you are, but want to participate. Maybe people whose first language isnt English dont feel confident writing something, but they can participate by agreeing or disagreeing.

Disagreeing with something doesnt always need a long dissertation of explanation. If you say people dont have the brains or balls to back it up, and i disagree, that means i dont think the same way as you. Period. Why does that need a big long explanation, just because YOU say it does?

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #71 on:** June 13, 2015, 08:44 »

That doesn't make sense. I agree with what is written so why do I need to repeat that? If you disagree there's a different opinion which you can share.

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #72 on:** June 13, 2015, 09:37 »

Let's all just agree to disagree and disagree to agree. Agreed?

cathyslife · « **Reply #73 on:** June 13, 2015, 10:42 »

Quote from: Microstock Posts on June 13, 2015, 09:37

Let's all just agree to disagree and disagree to agree. Agreed?

I disagree

.

Digital66 · « **Reply #74 on:** June 13, 2015, 12:25 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 12, 2015, 23:04

Never mind. Its a waste of time debating with people whose whole contribution to a conversation is -1, and don't even have the brains or balls to back it up.

-1

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