Adobe CEO admits need to 'tweak' Creative Suite's cloud-only policy
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2013/06/19/adobe_q2_customers_disappointed_with_no_boxed_wares/


seems like their hard nosed policy backfired and now they're relaxing the rules for their new Cloud suite.
in other news also Microsoft today announced they gave up with their sick idea of forcing Xbox One users to be 24x7 connected to the internet.

good news in both cases.

Yea, well....I wouldn't hold my breath.  He says this: "we are evaluating additional options that will help them with the transition.  That implies that it will still be cloud only.  And like Nikon keeps saying, "Some" are voicing concern, when it is in all likelihood a majority.

In case anyone monitoring the anti-mandatory-Creative Cloud isn't aware of it, there's a Facebook page that keeps updates on most news, articles, changes, etc. here:

https://www.facebook.com/StopAdobeCC

Great link! thanks.

In case anyone monitoring the anti-mandatory-Creative Cloud isn't aware of it, there's a Facebook page that keeps updates on most news, articles, changes, etc. here:

https://www.facebook.com/StopAdobeCC

Pirated in just one day.

http://fstoppers.com/adobe-photoshop-cc-has-already-been-pirated-in-just-one-day

If that's your plan, you might want to buy it now. Last time I looked I couldn't buy it from Adobe. Demand may soar for the boxed copy over the next few years.

Like Mantis mentioned, it sounds like the end goal is still cloud-based software and they're only going to look for better ways to "transition" people to Creative Cloud, so it's still a deal-breaker for me.

I'm going to upgrade to CS6 in a couple of years when it's cheap and then use the heck out of that version for as long as possible. After that, who knows, but I won't be using Creative Cloud, that's for sure.

My company will not pay a monthly fee for software...point blank. Nothing I can do about it...they don't budget that way and all software gets purchased by contracted projects...they don't have th cash flo to pay monthly if they have to commit to a certain length. I know my previous company was the same way...Adobe has not considered this. Looks like we will be using CS6 for a long time and will probably. Revert to alternatives after. Similar to the subscription service Autodesk has pushed, it is hard to justify such a thing to upper management. It was hard enough to justify upgrades in general, let alone reoccurring fees. Also losing th ability to be able to open your own work because you no longer have the subscription is a big deal...right now I can not upgrade and be able to open all my work....however if I won't with CC an decided it wasn't working out, I can no longer open any of my source files?

Quote from: cthoman on June 20, 2013, 11:19

Quote from: rimglow on June 20, 2013, 10:58

Pirated in just one day.

http://fstoppers.com/adobe-photoshop-cc-has-already-been-pirated-in-just-one-day

That's kind of surprising, although I suppose it is a target for hackers because of CC. I downloaded the new suite on Tuesday from Adobe. It seems nice. Not too many changes. I guess I'll have to check out the new features this weekend.

There doesn't appear to be any evidence that it has been pirated except the statement that "news is out" that it has. Which kind of suggests that someone claims to have seen a blog where someone said they had heard from a friend ......

They say there's a pirated torrent out here
http://petapixel.com/2013/06/19/adobe-photoshop-cc-has-apparently-been-cracked-one-day-after-launch/

They're simply abandoning most individual users, and many business users.  No company I ever worked for would do a subscription.   Imagine that accounting forgot to pay the bill, and one day you came in and couldn't open your files.  Woo hoo what a day that would be.

Those of us not in the 1% are supposed to just use Elements.  If that led to a a better version of Elements, it might be a good thing in some ways. 

Some of you must work for some strange companies. I can't imagine working somewhere where they didn't buy the software that they needed to run their business.

Many of my customers when Vista came out did not upgrade to it, they stuck to their XP machines. HP and Dell actually had a downgrade option from Vista to XP. Windows 8 is now suffering the same, people are sticking with Win 7. If a piece of hardware or software continues to perform its duites why fix what is not broken.

Companies do pay yearly fees for microstock subscriptions...so paying a flat yearly fee for software isn't implausible. The biggest headache is justification...every company I ever worked for required justification and it almost always comes down to the value that is provided versus costs. And they always want at least a couple of alternatives. This is a good time for alternative software to build and market...they won't dominate, but Adobe has allowed room for competition to come in a take a piece of the pie...previously there was very little room.

Quote from: dingles on June 22, 2013, 20:42

Companies do pay yearly fees for microstock subscriptions...so paying a flat yearly fee for software isn't implausible. The biggest headache is justification...every company I ever worked for required justification and it almost always comes down to the value that is provided versus costs. And they always want at least a couple of alternatives. This is a good time for alternative software to build and market...they won't dominate, but Adobe has allowed room for competition to come in a take a piece of the pie...previously there was very little room.

Justification is always necessary with every expense, but the cost isn't very much. I pay for my monthly subscription cost in a day, and I'm not a very profitable business.

It's not the price it's price versus what is being offered. For example I currently have CS6...my company generally upgrades us every 2-3 years unless we push with reason...my next upgrade is going to be a tough sell because in top of figuring out the added value the upgrade brings, They have to accept a yearly subscription fee (monthly won't fly)...so technically they may be paying 2-3 times more for the software over the course of 3 years as opposed to a single upgrade fee to a version we would use 2-3 years typically around $300-600...now I will be $1800...may seem like small peanuts to you, but considering I work along side 20 other designers and developers we are talking 12,000 vs 36,000 for software over the course of 3 years. To the corporate bean counters...that is a hit.

I ordered and got my CS6 a few weeks ago but it was like - I'm not sure it's still available, we'll call you if we can't locate one.

I'd like to buy CS6 now too, but cannot find any place still selling it ??

Try here.  I just bought my copy a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.thesoftwaretechstore.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Adobe+Photoshop+CS6

Quote from: w7lwi on June 23, 2013, 14:18

Quote from: Anyka on June 23, 2013, 00:20

I'd like to buy CS6 now too, but cannot find any place still selling it ??

Try here.  I just bought my copy a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.thesoftwaretechstore.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Adobe+Photoshop+CS6

Thanks!  I just gave it a try, but then at checkout I got the notice "Please note that you must buy a minimum of 5 Client access licenses (CALs) per purchase."  What would that mean?    (I was trying to buy the upgrade from CS5 to CS6, photoshop only).

That means that they are making you purchase 5 licenses, not just one. So whatever the cost for 1 license, multiply by 5 or thereabouts, and that's what it will cost you. At least that's what I get from it. But w7lwi said he/she bought a copy, so not sure why they could just buy one license and you can't. Maybe the store is getting greedy because they know there is a demand?

I'd like to buy CS6 now too, but cannot find any place still selling it ??

Here and it's on special offer.........not that it's cheap at �665 ex 21% VAT.

http://www.gdejongh.nl/adobe/photoshop+cs6/engels

Upgrade is cheaper:

http://www.gdejongh.nl/adobe/photoshop+cs6/nederlands