Any site, eh? How about Dreamstime?

How much of your portfolio there has been uploaded in the past 6 months?

"You make me mad and I'll delete my portfolio... in about 6 months."

Even with that restriction the significant players could probably delete 80%+ of their ports (all images over 6 months old and 30% of the rest)

Let me correct something from last night.

Quote from: NYTumbleweeds on August 05, 2008, 14:22

My opinion.. buyer finds an image they like.. buyer wants it & will use whichever method is available to purchase said image. No subs available on that specific image means they purchase ppd.

I couldn't care less about these buyers. Microstock is already too cheap to make images even cheaper for them. 

If I could, I would opt-out from any subs sales.

Regards,
Adelaide

I quoted the wrong post in my previous msg quoted above (my answer to it doesn't make any sense!).  This is the one I wanted to quote about subs buyers:

I think that there are going to be a lot of unhappy buyers that have bought a subsciption only to find that most of the decent images on StockXpert are suddenly opted out of subscription sales.

Regards,
Adelaide

True, but what I'm getting at is there is another site with restrictions already in place. And DT isn;t owned by a big company with agressive execs. I'm thinking Jupiter execs are feeling a bit spanked by this whole ordeal and don't want this happening again.

They may not introduce any changes related to removing images but I guarantee they're talking about it.

Yes and yes. JI mgt has most certainly been spanked quite severely (by us). I don't doubt that they will be discussing how they might strengthen their position too but they really haven't got a snowflake's hope in hell of imposing further restrictions any time soon on portfolios without unleashing an almighty backlash from contributors __ next time possibly fatal to StockXpert.

Of course they've now got themselves another self-generated problem to deal with too __ unhappy subscribers. Two weeks ago 99% of images (or whatever it was) were available to subscribers. Now it is an awful lot less and it will be even fewer if they don't reverse their decision on the opt-out options pretty soon. Personally I shall now remain opted-out of subs. Reminds me of the old Sir Walter Scott quote ""Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."

As Bobby has (repeatedly but most eloquently) pointed out, we the contributors actually have all the power if we simply choose to use it. What agency could survive if their contributors left it?

I've been slow to read all that's about to happen with StockXpert, even though I'm on there and opted into subs recently (although the majority of my sales are still outside the subscriptions).  Reading the rules on photos.com, the fact it states a subscriber can "Use the Image(s) on product packaging or in any items for personal use or resale, including book covers, calendars, consumer merchandise (T-shirts, posters, art, etc.)..." is a bit much.  Any items for resale?  Can someone tell me if this is common in EULA's with other sites?  I think such use is prohibited in StockXpert's License Agreement.

Sounds like someone could buy any image, go onto Zazzle or wherever and set up a gallery to sell images as posters, note cards etc.  Probably a good time to opt out of subscriptions.

a very good time my friend..

also, the least we can do is advertise MSG to as many photogs as we can so we can really built a stronger community to make even more noise..

I am definitely gonna work for the sake of all artist community.. it doesn't matter how much I can do, it is important that I do all I can.. If all of us do a bit, it becomes a lot..
otherwise this is really gonna get ugly for us and I am not gonna just sit back and watch it..

Just because they want to compete with bigger stock websites they can't treat our efforts this way..

As others have mentioned. I think it is important to look at the big picture and not go along with something that will surely harm our future. Sometimes that may mean losing a few bucks for the greater good of the community.
 
It was really great to see so many contributers ready or willing to take one on the chin to protect all our livelyhoods, very grateful for that!!.
I'm sure this won't be the last time something like this happens and its good to know so many have their heads screwed on tight. Great community.

True, but what I'm getting at is there is another site with restrictions already in place. And DT isn;t owned by a big company with agressive execs. I'm thinking Jupiter execs are feeling a bit spanked by this whole ordeal and don't want this happening again.

They may not introduce any changes related to removing images but I guarantee they're talking about it.

For me, personally, I'm not worried about DT's 6-month limitation because they've always been fair to me (so far).

The moment StockXpert introduces something similar, I'm pulling my port immediately, because it's a sure sign of worse things to come.

I noticed many top contributers with the largest folios  remains opted in,may be they are waiting for the deadline?

StockXpert must bee feeding them behind closed doors.. Otherwise, no clever human being will stay opted-in.. Maybe they are getting .50 from subs..

Big players not opting-out?? Hmm?! Worth investigating why?!

I agree, major players who have not opted out have not yet done so because they are unaware of what is being pulled with this EULA at Photos.com. I have no doubt that there is not a pro level contributor out there that could possibly be in agreement  with the subscription terms in the EULA of Photos.com

I am new on StockXpert and have a small port so my numbers are negligible; but it crossed my mind if anyone with larger portfolio sees any changes in sales. In other words I am curious to know the immediate extend of impact on our decision to opt out.

As for me, since I opted out over a week ago, no sales. 

I opted out and then coincidentally had my best day in the past 3 months but for the most part it made little to no difference in my daily totals

Update, just sold an image. 

Be patient, they will keep coming.. You don't get much with subs anyway.. trust me! We have to do this for our own sake..

0.30 cents will not save us, standing strong will..

StockXpert will have to change their plans if everyone thinks like us..

We have all got other agencies to represent us.. StockXpert makes %7 of my monthly income and I can live without it.. If StockXpert sinks then we will get that money through other sites because our customers don't need StockXpert, they need us!!

Edit: Did I say %7!!! Actually %3 so far in August.. I make about $3000 per month in all sites.. If trend continues only $90 of it will be from StockXpert this month.. I can pay that every month if it can sink StockXpert faster..

If we think about it, it is a small loss for us, individuals, but would become a huge blow for StockXpert if we all did it.. It is a shame, because StockXpert was one of my favourites.. I loved it a lot.. But what is the point in loving them if they don't love me back?!

I said goodbye to StockXpert on Sunday... no regrets at all... And if you take the time to read the fine print of their EULA you will find loopholes they can use to circumvent the opt out thing... It is beginning to be discussed at yahoo groups.  So, they think they are smarter, but the crowd has a brighter mind!