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Change of Plan - Symbiostock is Independent [updated]

Started by Leo Blanchette, January 28, 2014, 22:46

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Leo Blanchette

Symbiostock has gotten far too big for one person.

Anyway, a nostalgic happy memory to start:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-development-area/selling-rf-images-is-really-not-that-hard-php-developers-wanted/

Regardless of the public defence I've had to put up today, the bigger part of my heart is thankful especially toward the main helpers of this little big project.

http://ajotte.com
http://www.clipartillustration.com
http://www.picturemojo.co.nz
http://www.flashstockphoto.com
http://thpstockphotos.com
http://www.backyardstockphotos.com
http://cascoly-images.com/pix
http://plingstock.com
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http://softlightstock.com
http://stockabily.com
http://www.travelwitness.net
http://www.miami-skyline.com
http://www.karensarragaphotography.com
http://franky242.net/shop
http://stockimages.glennspecht.com/wp
http://quailrunphoto.com
http://www.innerstock.com
http://photominingstock.com/food
http://www.cidepix.com
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http://www.imagoborealis.com
http://atstockillustration.com
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http://photominingstock.com/earth
http://aseanphotostock.com
http://stock.lkpublishinganddesign.com
http://www.hookstockimages.com
http://semmickphoto.com
http://peopleimages.grsphoto.ca/wp
http://lbarnstockimages.com
http://cartoonpictureshop.com
http://lifeispix.com
http://www.picture5479.com
http://landwehrle.com/stockphotography
http://pinkbadgerphoto.com
http://picturebreeze.com
http://www.neirfy.com/rf
http://crackerclips.com
http://stockphotology.com
http://www.dashphoto.eu
http://www.energy-photos.com
http://ibuystockphotos.com
http://wojciechrzasa.pl
http://www.emberstock.com
http://stockphoto-images.com
http://elilena.com
http://www.image-stocks.com
http://www.kiwistock.co.nz
http://alanklughammer.com/stock
http://shop.stockfaktory.com
http://www.myvectorimages.com
http://acrylik.com
http://americastockphoto.com
http://apduff.com/stock
http://www.dogfordstudios.com
http://jamstockimages.com
http://stockphotos.sorenegeberg.com
http://bestnaturestock.com
http://stock.tdahlphotography.com
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http://danishstockphoto.lk5.dk
http://coolstockphoto.com
http://photostockpics.com
http://stock.kelleherphoto.com
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http://bandkmedia.com
http://stockphotoeurope.com
http://easybuyphotos.com
http://www.advantica.com/stockphotos
http://images.mddu.com
http://www.jomaplaon.com
http://onevectorstock.com
http://www.stocklabb.com
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http://stockphoto.bodhidatta.com
http://vectorolie.com
http://simplystockphotography.com
http://www.foodvectors.com
http://www.sangostock.com
http://tdfimages.com
http://sharpstockimages.com
http://www.teamclipart.com
http://www.filedimage.com/photography
http://www.bildkistl.com
http://www.allg.eu
http://www.eclaire.de
http://buying-images.com
http://www.jbstockimages.com
http://www.food.ezeepics.com
http://spectral-design.net
http://www.digitalbristles.com
http://www.millionstock.com
http://jktravelphotos.com
http://www.txkingstock.com
http://ercansenkaya.com
http://viewfactorimages.com
http://minkymoomedia.com
http://kerioakimaging.com
http://ecostockimages.com
http://1dollarimages.com
http://buyillustrations.net
http://snapvectors.com
http://royaltyfreestockphotos.co
http://vector999.com
http://danielghioldi.com
http://jillerinstock.com
http://ruthblackphotography.com
http://www.premiumcarphoto.com
http://stockyimage.com
http://stock.photocreo.com
http://www.jh-image.com/stockimages
http://dianajophoto.com
http://www.symbiostockvideo.com
http://fotos593.com
http://www.kennykstock.com
http://hellostockphoto.com
http://www.alilamedicalimage.com
http://scenicoregon.com/webpics2
http://www.crystalmoo.com
http://ansharimages.com
http://www.ephotobuy.com
http://dhodacphoto.com
http://jeneimages.com
http://stockphotoinaquim.com
http://stockphotosart.com
http://stockimagefolio.net
http://mikephotoart.com
http://stockphotos.ezeepics.com
http://yoographic.com
http://atlanticastockphoto.com
http://yummyfoto.com
http://clipartcartoons.com
http://www.greenlifeimages.com
http://selectstockpix.com
http://lakestockphoto.com
http://pseudoimages.com
http://www.paperboxphoto.com
http://www.dutchreflex.nl
http://www.creativeillustrationstock.com
http://www.mallorcaimages.com
http://pritchettstudio.com/stock
http://familiedegraaf.com
http://www.stockapic.com
http://www.upillustration.com
http://fotorel.com
http://www.avbpix.com
http://sunnystockphoto.com
http://eggheadstock.com
http://retroclipartz.com
http://logoretrostyle.com
http://www.seanlockephotography.com/shop
http://stock-image-bank.com
http://www.kwjphotostock.com
http://www.catchthelight.co.uk
http://clipart4mascots.com
http://www.madzip.com
http://royaltyfreevault.com
http://fantasticstock.com
http://stock.geneimages.com
http://www.ctcartoons.com
http://simplerdaysphotography.net
http://www.stocknordica.com
http://www.vectorjourney.com
http://graphicvectors.com
http://focusstockphoto.net
http://www.stockphotocluster.com

[Edited and Updated]

Thanks to some key people coming in at the right time, most of the opening comments of this thread no longer apply. So I've deleted them and replaced with below

Here is a little positive inspiration:

Symbiosis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis



This project encompasses a very unique concept, so adjustments will always have to be made. Challenges will usually come at inopportune times (I've been slow to accept this, but do now) Since posting this some very qualified people have joined in to help on important aspects of the project, and this has allowed me a degree of balance again in the level of responsibility I carry with the project.

Thank you everyone for being a part of this project and with the new structure and direction, it appears the general health of the project will be restored.

cobalt

You´ve done an amazing job Leo! Symbiostock will be alive and well and new driving forces will emerge.

All the best!

Copidosoma

Good luck Leo,

I haven't jumped to SYS (mostly for a lack of time) but sincerely hope that SYS stays healthy. I think contributors need something like this.

Good on you for looking out for number 1. You should do these things because you love it and because it benefits you. That is why we all do this. Once either of those stop it is only responsible for you to walk away. Hopefully others can chip in and keep the model alive.

Cheers all.

Leo Blanchette

There's still plenty of development ahead. We just have to love it again :D

KimsCreativeHub

As a fellow illustrator I can completely understand  and have been contemplating jumping in myself :)  enjoy your inspiration !


My Very Best :)
KimsCreativeHub.com

KimsCreativeHub

Jumping in sys that is


My Very Best :)
KimsCreativeHub.com

Jo Ann Snover

So I'm feeling shell shocked again, but I'm sure that'll be fine in a little while...

Before you head back to illustrator-heaven Leo, can you update the sources on GitHub - the last commit I see from you was a couple of weeks ago and there have been updates since. It'll make it much easier to keep things going if we have the current code base at our disposal. And not only that I'll feel a whole lot less panicked if I know there's code there to update my fork from :)

But if you feel like updating things more often, that'd be fine - why let a few frothy comments from a tiny minority of the 164-ish sites control where things go? I can't be the only site owner who does care but refuses to engage in fisticuffs in the forums, can I?

Leo Blanchette

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on January 28, 2014, 23:38
So I'm feeling shell shocked again, but I'm sure that'll be fine in a little while...

Before you head back to illustrator-heaven Leo, can you update the sources on GitHub - the last commit I see from you was a couple of weeks ago and there have been updates since. It'll make it much easier to keep things going if we have the current code base at our disposal. And not only that I'll feel a whole lot less panicked if I know there's code there to update my fork from :)

But if you feel like updating things more often, that'd be fine - why let a few frothy comments from a tiny minority of the 164-ish sites control where things go? I can't be the only site owner who does care but refuses to engage in fisticuffs in the forums, can I?

LOL - your very right.

Its actually not that complicated, and yet, nothing could be more complicated. I know technology, but I'm not extremely gifted with people. I guess the formula is to stick to what I'm good at!

I'll get github updated asap. I lost about 3 hours today, but overall things are moving forward nicely.

Leo Blanchette

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on January 28, 2014, 23:38
So I'm feeling shell shocked again, but I'm sure that'll be fine in a little while...

Before you head back to illustrator-heaven Leo, can you update the sources on GitHub - the last commit I see from you was a couple of weeks ago and there have been updates since. It'll make it much easier to keep things going if we have the current code base at our disposal. And not only that I'll feel a whole lot less panicked if I know there's code there to update my fork from :)

But if you feel like updating things more often, that'd be fine - why let a few frothy comments from a tiny minority of the 164-ish sites control where things go? I can't be the only site owner who does care but refuses to engage in fisticuffs in the forums, can I?

Here you go:
https://github.com/orangeman555/symbiostock

And the theme file:
https://github.com/orangeman555/symbiostock/blob/master/symbiostock.zip?raw=true


Ron

Please allow me to apologise for the way I handled my criticism. I should have followed my own advice and should have kept it to myself or expressed myself privately.

I do think criticism should not be ignored in this project moving forward, its invaluable feedback.

Just let it be clear that I am still helping people getting on board with Symbiostock, I am still getting PMs from people asking my about my experience or if I can help them with their site/seo. And I respond positively to their questions.

I also love my site, nothing has changed about that. I never thought Symbiostock is a failure, and still dont. I have always defended the project when needed and will continue to do so.

I have much respect for the work that Leo, Michelle, Jo Ann, and many others have put towards the project. That will never change either. Thank you for all you have done.

So I sincerely apologise for the way I handled my criticism. I hope it can be forgiven.

kuriouskat

I've been crazy busy with non-stock commitments for the last few weeks, and haven't checked in here much. I have obviously missed a lot......

Leo, firstly a thank-you for the huge effort you have put into this project. My site isn't developed yet - I got as far as buying my domain a few weeks back, and installing the themes, etc. but now need to actually personalise and populate the site. This project has given me the opportunity to not only have my own website, (as that could be done through various means), but to get some traffic from the networking side and some support from a community willing to assist, and to be part of a worthy and commendable project.

I take it that it is still worth me proceeding with developing my site? I haven't anything to give in return for technical support but, hopefully, another site can mean more traffic and sales for others? This is all very daunting for a complete novice!!

I sincerely hope that the community rallies round in all ways possible to keep this project alive and kicking. I don't know what I can do but I'm willing to muck in if asked :)



Leo Blanchette

Quote from: Ron on January 29, 2014, 08:26
Please allow me to apologise for the way I handled my criticism. I should have followed my own advice and should have kept it to myself or expressed myself privately.

I do think criticism should not be ignored in this project moving forward, its invaluable feedback.

Just let it be clear that I am still helping people getting on board with Symbiostock, I am still getting PMs from people asking my about my experience or if I can help them with their site/seo. And I respond positively to their questions.

I also love my site, nothing has changed about that. I never thought Symbiostock is a failure, and still dont. I have always defended the project when needed and will continue to do so.

I have much respect for the work that Leo, Michelle, Jo Ann, and many others have put towards the project. That will never change either. Thank you for all you have done.

So I sincerely apologise for the way I handled my criticism. I hope it can be forgiven.

Well, its my bedtime! Building in an analytics system finally for Cascoly.

There's nothing to forgive. I don't hold grudges. :D I even have positive thoughts about JSPK!

PS - forgive my stupidity too. While I don't have the benefit of being drunk, I do say things I regret when I'm tired. :-X

Ron

Ok, no worries, cool. Thanks Leo, appreciate your attitude. Onward and upward. Sleep well.  ;)

kuriouskat

OK, Ron has posted while I was typing and obviously things have become heated and personal somewhere along the line. I haven't read what has happened but can confirm that I am one of the people who PMd Ron with some Symbio queries, and I certainly received a very thorough and positive response - it is on the strength of those emails that I actually took the plunge.

I hope that whatever has gone down can be amicably resolved after everyone has had the chance to sleep on it.

Leo Blanchette

Quote from: KuriousKat on January 29, 2014, 08:39
I've been crazy busy with non-stock commitments for the last few weeks, and haven't checked in here much. I have obviously missed a lot......

Leo, firstly a thank-you for the huge effort you have put into this project. My site isn't developed yet - I got as far as buying my domain a few weeks back, and installing the themes, etc. but now need to actually personalise and populate the site. This project has given me the opportunity to not only have my own website, (as that could be done through various means), but to get some traffic from the networking side and some support from a community willing to assist, and to be part of a worthy and commendable project.

I take it that it is still worth me proceeding with developing my site? I haven't anything to give in return for technical support but, hopefully, another site can mean more traffic and sales for others? This is all very daunting for a complete novice!!

I sincerely hope that the community rallies round in all ways possible to keep this project alive and kicking. I don't know what I can do but I'm willing to muck in if asked :)

Happy to have you. With Symbiostock:

Don't panic, and never forget your towel.

See yall.

kuriouskat

Quote from: Leo on January 29, 2014, 08:53
Quote from: KuriousKat on January 29, 2014, 08:39
I've been crazy busy with non-stock commitments for the last few weeks, and haven't checked in here much. I have obviously missed a lot......

Leo, firstly a thank-you for the huge effort you have put into this project. My site isn't developed yet - I got as far as buying my domain a few weeks back, and installing the themes, etc. but now need to actually personalise and populate the site. This project has given me the opportunity to not only have my own website, (as that could be done through various means), but to get some traffic from the networking side and some support from a community willing to assist, and to be part of a worthy and commendable project.

I take it that it is still worth me proceeding with developing my site? I haven't anything to give in return for technical support but, hopefully, another site can mean more traffic and sales for others? This is all very daunting for a complete novice!!

I sincerely hope that the community rallies round in all ways possible to keep this project alive and kicking. I don't know what I can do but I'm willing to muck in if asked :)

Happy to have you. With Symbiostock:

Don't panic, and never forget your towel.

See yall.

Thanks!

Not sure what the towel reference is but I will try not to panic ;)

jsfoto

Quote from: Ron on January 29, 2014, 08:26
Please allow me to apologise for the way I handled my criticism. I should have followed my own advice and should have kept it to myself or expressed myself privately.

I do think criticism should not be ignored in this project moving forward, its invaluable feedback.

Just let it be clear that I am still helping people getting on board with Symbiostock, I am still getting PMs from people asking my about my experience or if I can help them with their site/seo. And I respond positively to their questions.

I also love my site, nothing has changed about that. I never thought Symbiostock is a failure, and still dont. I have always defended the project when needed and will continue to do so.

I have much respect for the work that Leo, Michelle, Jo Ann, and many others have put towards the project. That will never change either. Thank you for all you have done.

So I sincerely apologise for the way I handled my criticism. I hope it can be forgiven.

Great move, Ron. I really appreciate your words ... (and voted  your post up ;) )

klsbear

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Quote from: KuriousKat on January 29, 2014, 09:01
Quote from: Leo on January 29, 2014, 08:53
Quote from: KuriousKat on January 29, 2014, 08:39
I've been crazy busy with non-stock commitments for the last few weeks, and haven't checked in here much. I have obviously missed a lot......

Leo, firstly a thank-you for the huge effort you have put into this project. My site isn't developed yet - I got as far as buying my domain a few weeks back, and installing the themes, etc. but now need to actually personalise and populate the site. This project has given me the opportunity to not only have my own website, (as that could be done through various means), but to get some traffic from the networking side and some support from a community willing to assist, and to be part of a worthy and commendable project.

I take it that it is still worth me proceeding with developing my site? I haven't anything to give in return for technical support but, hopefully, another site can mean more traffic and sales for others? This is all very daunting for a complete novice!!

I sincerely hope that the community rallies round in all ways possible to keep this project alive and kicking. I don't know what I can do but I'm willing to muck in if asked :)

Happy to have you. With Symbiostock:

Don't panic, and never forget your towel.

See yall.

Thanks!

Not sure what the towel reference is but I will try not to panic ;)

The "towel" reference is Leo's sometimes unique sense of humor again.  It' a reference to something from "Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy". It's said to be the most important thing an intergalactic hitchhiker can have with them for a number of reasons. Wikipedia will enlighten you more is you care enough to search.

kuriouskat

Quote from: klsbear on January 29, 2014, 11:04
Quote from: KuriousKat on January 29, 2014, 09:01
Quote from: Leo on January 29, 2014, 08:53
Quote from: KuriousKat on January 29, 2014, 08:39
I've been crazy busy with non-stock commitments for the last few weeks, and haven't checked in here much. I have obviously missed a lot......

Leo, firstly a thank-you for the huge effort you have put into this project. My site isn't developed yet - I got as far as buying my domain a few weeks back, and installing the themes, etc. but now need to actually personalise and populate the site. This project has given me the opportunity to not only have my own website, (as that could be done through various means), but to get some traffic from the networking side and some support from a community willing to assist, and to be part of a worthy and commendable project.

I take it that it is still worth me proceeding with developing my site? I haven't anything to give in return for technical support but, hopefully, another site can mean more traffic and sales for others? This is all very daunting for a complete novice!!

I sincerely hope that the community rallies round in all ways possible to keep this project alive and kicking. I don't know what I can do but I'm willing to muck in if asked :)

Happy to have you. With Symbiostock:

Don't panic, and never forget your towel.

See yall.

Thanks!

Not sure what the towel reference is but I will try not to panic ;)

The "towel" reference is Leo's sometimes unique sense of humor again.  It' a reference to something from Hithhikers Guide To The Galexy". It's said to be the most important thing an intergalactic hitchhiker can have with them for a number of reasons for a. Number of reasons. Wikipedia will enlighten you more is you care enough to search.

Ahhhh, I thought I was missing something. I'll take a look ;)

Beach Bum

Thanks for all of your hard work, Leo.  You did most of this with no compensation and I applaud you for that.  You saw a need and filled it.  Good luck in your illustrating and any other endeavors.  Thank you!
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sharpshot

Thanks for all the work Leo and I hope you will keep doing little bits with symbio.  I haven't sold a lot but I have only uploaded a small part of my portfolio and haven't spent much time on it.  I was surprised to see any sales at all.

Jeffrey

#22
Thanks Leo for the hardwork. You have fulfilled my dream of putting my own agency, even though selling more $$$ is still a dream, though I get a few download once in a while.


Leo Blanchette

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Goose

2014, February 5th, 8:04

Yet another rupture of accusations (on my own forum) and I have discussed it with my wife: Symbiostock is no longer my focus.

Many suppose I got rich off of this. Its quite the opposite. There are those who love it, those who hate it, and those who must move on...

Thanks again guys.

Illustration is where the money is. Minding your own business is where the peace is. Back to the days of innocence. Please enjoy Symbiostock. It will always have a future...it is free after all.

Leo

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