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« on: April 25, 2013, 07:51 »
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LEO mentioned in another thread.

"Once I'm done the little issues in front of me (search, image processing) I'll be addressing network, and along with that, I'll be making a plugin which allows huge amounts of network control and statistics.

So whoever is up for the job, they will be able to make a "hub" site which not only sells images, but coordinates networks as well, and displays more convenient search results all on one site."

I could be wrong ( happens regularly  :o ) but I think Leo does not plan to have a central directory of sites.  In the long term this might be the best way to go, but in the short term I think there should be a central directory.  This is for SEO if nothing else.

It should be relatively easy to set up a Data Base on a site... but what site?  Symbiostock.com seems to be the best idea ( to me) but Leo has already said he doesn't want it.  Symbiostock.net might be cool ( if it is available) but that would be stepping on Leo's toes...and after all the great work and effort he has put in it would also be very rude to do ( IMHO)

I could host it ( an take all the SEO points) but I think the best place to put this data base, at least in the short term would be here... at Microstockgroup.com.... assuming Leaf doesn't have a problem with this.

In the long term I can see several different hubs developing based on many different factors.

Glenn






« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2013, 08:27 »
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Is the the "whoever is up for the job" one of us of any/all of us ?

Cascoly has one directory (see last post, page 1 of networking site) and I also list all the current sites as I come across them on my network page, at least while we are getting started as I find it useful to have it there

Not fully understanding what Leo means I will wait and see what turns up  :)

farbled

« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2013, 09:50 »
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I'm happy to host one as well, however I don't know how to make one where users can input their own info and edit as needed. I'll see if I can find something simple (not a programmer :) )...

mattdixon

« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2013, 10:37 »
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It's in the works (site is in Beta) - I'm helping Leo out with a directory & knowledge base site to give him some breathing space.

If anyone wants to help and has any tech articles written, installation guides, customisation etc, please site mail me and I'll use them to populate the site.

« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2013, 10:58 »
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Matt

I'm confused ( easy to do)

In this [http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-general/how-to-self-police-the-network/ Leo said
"I realized yesterday and especially today that I CANNOT list Symbiostock sites on the main site. Why? It suggests I endorse or favor content. Not only will it cause jealosy, but bigger issues."


And he has valid reasons.

The Knowledge base is a GREAT idea, and I assume it will be kept on the Symbiostock site.

What I am talking about is a directory or sites that use the theme... at least until the network plug-in becomes fully functional, and maybe after.

Glenn

mattdixon

« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2013, 11:30 »
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This is separate to the main site to help people with installation and see artists using the theme.

I don't see why a directory of sorts can't be listed there, like a yellow pages for Symbio creatives, I'll check with Leo to make sure his OK with it.

« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 14:26 »
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 :-X
I'm happy to host one as well, however I don't know how to make one where users can input their own info and edit as needed. I'll see if I can find something simple (not a programmer :) )...

it's fairly straightforward to let users modify a database on a site - that's what we're doing here on the forum everytime we leave a message;  each user has permissions to read everything and write only to their data

mostly waiting now  to see how Leo decides to set this up

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2013, 15:27 »
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Cool thread! I'm so busy I don't get to elaborate much. Here is where things are going (thanks to the help of everyone).

First off, this is not merely an open source project, but its fairly open in itself. Meaning you can invent your own way. I think thats pretty much assumed anyway.

This project as a whole attempts to combine human efforts to benefit everyone. It also keeps the load distributed. I'm attempting to keep that as a central theory/goal to see what becomes of it. I think it will end up being very popular and, the bottom line, profitable for everyone, with a longer sustainability.

But enough of the speculation - here is where the network ideas have ended up thanks to everyone's efforts

mattdixon is making a much better community site (edit - better than symbiostock.com - forums will remain here). It will act as a knowledge base and along with that, provide a human edited directory of sites and owners (which really is just another form of knowledge base). There's more, but he can explain that plus you are welcome to provide your own ideas. I guess the thing to learn here is that really is an open project, and it seems to self-organize very well.

This means the www.Symbiostock.com will only have a few simple functions: A simple about page, with some getting started stuff and basic tutorials I make, as well hub for downloading extensions and plugins. Plus a few other random necessities. Only whats necessary to get started.

THE NETWORK HUB PLUGIN
will be pretty cool.

What it will do (and its not a necessity, just a really good bonus) is spider networks and collect data, controlled by the hub owner. It will centralize some search results as well, collect featured images from sites, plus add other functions necessary to coordinating a network. It will be a sort of directory, but more automated. It will also export as many types of data as possible (.csv), from basic wordpress stuff to Symbiostock specific data like network statistics and relationships.

Scenerio:

Lets say a group of photographers or illustrators want to pool their efforts in the typical Symbiostock way. But they understand that customers might not want to island hop too much. Right away they set some standards:

1. Our network is sharing efforts for certain types of promotion.
2. We have these requirements...(pricing, portfolio size, quality, etc)...these will be editable values displayed on the hub site.
3. They decide whether or not this is a closed network or its allowed to intersect with other networks - ether at the hub level or the site level.

Mind you, this might not be the ultimate customer convenience even yet, but customers will enjoy this concept as well, understanding that they too are becoming a part of a cool project. The hub might actually show its members and skills they bring to the table for custom work.

The whole idea stems from this fact:

Symbiostock cannot dictate what we might call "subjective" standards. These can be anything from quality of work, to content, to anything. This primarily allows like-minded people to work together and take that responsibility from any central entity. Some networks might want to excell in quality - others, diversity or exclusive content. Still others might want to be different in LOTS of content...and yet others might decide to specialize in certain subjects (food, nature, technology trends) and ... and maybe others might be completely experimental on different levels.

So - today I work on search and a few minor issues...then I fix some image processing issues...then the Symbiostock NETWORK gets addressed evolves into something amazing.





« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2013, 18:58 »
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It is sooooo hard to keep being patient!  ;D

« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 08:11 »
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There is also the option of keeping a list of the sites on the MicrostockGroup Wiki
http://www.microstockgroup.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

If anyone wants editing privledges on the wiki I'd be happy to add an account for them.  Ideally the log in and membership would be under the same account on there as here but I haven't got that to work yet.
Send me a PM if anyone wants to edit on the wiki.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2013, 15:21 »
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There is also the option of keeping a list of the sites on the MicrostockGroup Wiki
http://www.microstockgroup.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

If anyone wants editing privledges on the wiki I'd be happy to add an account for them.  Ideally the log in and membership would be under the same account on there as here but I haven't got that to work yet.
Send me a PM if anyone wants to edit on the wiki.


How did this get missed?

« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2013, 22:28 »
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There is also the option of keeping a list of the sites on the MicrostockGroup Wiki
http://www.microstockgroup.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

If anyone wants editing privledges on the wiki I'd be happy to add an account for them.  Ideally the log in and membership would be under the same account on there as here but I haven't got that to work yet.
Send me a PM if anyone wants to edit on the wiki.


How did this get missed?

I am off-line for the next 4 days, but if no one else takes Leaf up on the offer I will!!!

Glenn


 

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