I think this is what people really are interested in but the threads turn into bickering and fighting. I'm guilty of that myself. For this thread however if we could try to keep it focused on the poll results it would be much more productive. There are other threads for the bickering and comments. Please do your best to refrain and keep this one on topic. Thanks

Very smart initiative

The poll will show nothing new...those who LOVE SY will come and vote all the positive answers. If the votes get way over the typical number of SYers who rally here with the pluses and minuses, it might possibly mean something. Not everyone who has or had a SY site will even vote. Most everything in the poll topics has been stated in the bickering threads.

Good Idea Chromoco - one thing you have maybe missed out is that the even if some are getting low sales the value of those sales is way above that of agencies (depending on the prices chosen by the site owners of course).

nice poll chromaco

Leaf is there a way to allow people to change their vote or update their votes? I thought there was but I can't find it.

Quote from: chromaco on March 11, 2014, 16:31
Leaf is there a way to allow people to change their vote or update their votes? I thought there was but I can't find it.

Doesnt seem like there should be, otherwise results could be skewed to show a better outcome.

Actually I was thinking about people who later on decide they are unhappy like you did. It would be nice if the poll were dynamic to indicate what is currently happening rather than just what is happening on March 11 2014

Quote from: chromaco on March 11, 2014, 18:51
Actually I was thinking about people who later on decide they are unhappy like you did. It would be nice if the poll were dynamic to indicate what is currently happening rather than just what is happening on March 11 2014

I see what you are saying. How about a monthly poll? I remember the poll on SY can be updated, hopefully because sales figures are updating on a daily/weekly basis.

asked Cascoly a few questions regarding domains at Symbio forum, no reply

Quote from: chromaco on March 11, 2014, 16:31
Leaf is there a way to allow people to change their vote or update their votes? I thought there was but I can't find it.

yep, i've modified it now so people can change their vote if they want.

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 11, 2014, 19:17
asked Cascoly a few questions regarding domains at Symbio forum, no reply

He was traveling for awhile but he's back now.  He may have missed your questions.

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 11, 2014, 19:17
asked Cascoly a few questions regarding domains at Symbio forum, no reply

sorry, I didn't see anything in the symbio forums earlier but finally found it... you asked if the co-op included domain name -- it doesn't.  each co-op site will have a separate, fully functional WP and Sym theme installed in a subfolder & subdomain of http://symbiostock-network.com and can be accessed by eg http://patterns.symbiostock-network.com

while the main idea is that artists won't need to learn WP,  everything will be there if they decide to use it at some future date.

of course, you could always redirect a domain name to that address if you wanted to.






... best way to contact me is email or PM  here or in the sym forums

Quote from: Ron on March 11, 2014, 09:33
Very smart initiative

Can you explain this quote from you?

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Quote from: R2D2 on April 29, 2014, 19:43
we should make these greedy and destructive agencies superfluous.

SYMBIOSTOCK!!!!!

I wouldnt recommend Symbiostock at this point either, and you know why.

Why not recommend and I don't know why. Whats the story? I'm thinking of trying Symbiostock. Do you have a Symbiostock site Ron?

I am not sure what your intentions are, as you would have seen my signature when you quoted me, twice.

Quote from: Ron on May 12, 2014, 23:51
I am not sure what your intentions are, as you would have seen my signature when you quoted me, twice.

"I wouldnt recommend Symbiostock at this point either, and you know why."

No I don't know why. My intentions are ask you a simple question for a straight answer. You say youy don't recomend Symbiostock and at the same time power your site with it, contradiction. If you wouldn't recommend why do you use it. Instead of answer you question my intentions. What is the truth that is my intention.

Quote from: cathyslife stockphotos.com on March 11, 2014, 10:10
The poll will show nothing new...those who LOVE SY will come and vote all the positive answers. If the votes get way over the typical number of SYers who rally here with the pluses and minuses, it might possibly mean something. Not everyone who has or had a SY site will even vote. Most everything in the poll topics has been stated in the bickering threads.

I think the number of minuses proves your point. 18 people think this was a bad post, when actually I think you have  a valid point. I think "have you turned a profit for your time/money invested" is a valid point to include.

It's an interesting poll - it's good to see how often people get sales, it gives some idea of how effective it has been up to now.

One problem is that the "percentages" are meaningless because they are calculated across a range of different topics.  You need to read the number of votes for each section and recalculate percentages just for those votes.

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 18, 2014, 11:38
It's an interesting poll - it's good to see how often people get sales, it gives some idea of how effective it has been up to now.

One problem is that the "percentages" are meaningless because they are calculated across a range of different topics.  You need to read the number of votes for each section and recalculate percentages just for those votes.

Right and 46 people are still running the sites thats a good number.

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Quote from: Ron on May 12, 2014, 23:51
I am not sure what your intentions are, as you would have seen my signature when you quoted me, twice.

"I wouldnt recommend Symbiostock at this point either, and you know why."

No I don't know why. My intentions are ask you a simple question for a straight answer. You say youy don't recomend Symbiostock and at the same time power your site with it, contradiction. If you wouldn't recommend why do you use it. Instead of answer you question my intentions. What is the truth that is my intention.

Ron doesn't answer questions just dodges them. You will get minuses for asking for fact.

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Quote from: YadaYadaYada on May 18, 2014, 03:19

Quote from: Ron on May 12, 2014, 23:51
I am not sure what your intentions are, as you would have seen my signature when you quoted me, twice.

"I wouldnt recommend Symbiostock at this point either, and you know why."

No I don't know why. My intentions are ask you a simple question for a straight answer. You say youy don't recomend Symbiostock and at the same time power your site with it, contradiction. If you wouldn't recommend why do you use it. Instead of answer you question my intentions. What is the truth that is my intention.

Ron doesn't answer questions just dodges them. You will get minuses for asking for fact.

I see I did get a minus for asking a question. Why won't he answer? Can anybody show me why not recommended. He uses it for his website and then says do not use?

"I wouldnt recommend Symbiostock at this point either, and you know why."

No I don't know why.

Leo took a well deserved break from development for about four months. He is back now but some site owners were frustrated that some smaller bugs were not resolved right away. Leo is back and actively developing an updated and streamlined version for release sometime later this year. I believe most of these issues have gone away. The easiest way to determine if it is going to work for you is to invest in a small hosting plan and start building with the free version. There is lots of tech support at symbiostock.org.

I use the free version for 2 sites and I like it a lot. My reasons for using it besides getting 100% of sales are to also have an online backup of my stock photos, an online portfolio not connected to any agency, and a guarantee that my images will never be part of any "orphan works" claim in the future. Those alone make it worth the hosting cost. Its also very easy for me to install and use (I have some front end experience so WP is my friend) and I like being able to one-click update.

I have not explored the networking side of things much at all. I've connected to a couple of sites but that's about it. I like that I can create my own network sometime down the road if it suits me.

I don't like that my site can display every other Sym site out there if you click on the network thing (ie. http://www.photominingstock.com/earth/symbiostock-network-directory/). I haven't looked enough how to turn that off yet. I'd rather pick and choose sites that have similar subjects and prices. I'll figure it out when I get time.

I much prefer it over ktools or the free shopping cart systems I've tried in the past.

I use symbiostock for my site and I love it. Although I'm not selling directly it's a pleasant way to display my work and keep track where it is for sale. I've included the network feature and links to http://symbiostock.info so my search displays the works on other symbiosites to make some promotion. You can check it out at http://7horses.eu/wp/

The reason I don't sell direct on my site is due to purely legal issues attached to my personal situation.

I used the symbiostock theme for a year and made one sale. During that time, i had to totally rebuild my site once because of major changes to the theme. The networking feature, in my opinion, benefits only a few, while most in the network see little or no sales. Basically, the networking presents more problems than benefits.


There arent too many other software choices out there for selling your own images, but i wouldnt recommend SY. They all have faults, but in my opinion, this one has way more faults than benefits.