Author Topic: Dash for what??? (Read 9909 times)

louoates · « **on:** June 27, 2010, 14:20 »

Last 3 months, 300 of my best images on line = 0 sales.
What's not going on here?

elvinstar · « **Reply #1 on:** June 27, 2010, 14:54 »

I'm guessing (hoping) that things will pick up significantly after the "Dash for Cash".

I would assume that they will launch some massive advertising campaign to try to recoup some of the money that they're paying for uploads.

FWIW my balance is 83.25 so far with 900 photos online.

njnightsky · « **Reply #2 on:** June 27, 2010, 15:41 »

Well image views have gone up, hope they lead to more sales.

stockastic · « **Reply #3 on:** June 27, 2010, 16:07 »

Well heck, if you could open a store for the cost of a web site, and have 1,000 vendors immediately fill your shelves with inventory, charging you absolutely nothing up front...

cthoman · « **Reply #4 on:** June 27, 2010, 16:12 »

I'm not really sure what there is to complain about. The dash for cash money alone was worth the very, very minimal effort put in to upload files there. That said, June has been my best month there and I reached my first payout. I don't know what the future holds for Veer, but the present isn't so bad.

ap · « **Reply #5 on:** June 27, 2010, 17:23 »

Quote from: cthoman on June 27, 2010, 16:12

I'm not really sure what there is to complain about. The dash for cash money alone was worth the very, very minimal effort put in to upload files there. That said, June has been my best month there and I reached my first payout. I don't know what the future holds for Veer, but the present isn't so bad.

+1

i think they've been very generous with their dash offer. if someone can actually get 400 photos approved for $1.4 each, that must be the best the industry's seen thus far. my problem is i'm a small producer so i've been like an image factory trying to churn them out, one quality pic at a time.

however, the sales are dismal...

stormchaser · « **Reply #6 on:** June 27, 2010, 20:17 »

They screwed from the old Veer and broke it. I had clients who bought from the old Veer all the time. Unique stuff there.

ShadySue · « **Reply #7 on:** June 28, 2010, 12:47 »

Quote from: stormchaser on June 27, 2010, 20:17

They screwed from the old Veer and broke it.

As in "they veered off course"?
Sorry, couldn't resist. I'll fetch me coat.

tiero · « **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2010, 02:46 »

Quote from: louoates on June 27, 2010, 14:20

Last 3 months, 300 of my best images on line = 0 sales.
What's not going on here?

I've more than 1600 images...and 15$ per month of average!

No review in the last month...and of course I'm not going to upload anymore.
Deposit sell double of Veer with less images on line...also Crestock do it better than Veer!

PeterChigmaroff · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2010, 09:03 »

Quote from: stormchaser on June 27, 2010, 20:17

They screwed from the old Veer and broke it. I had clients who bought from the old Veer all the time. Unique stuff there.

I believe this to be yet another of a very long line of tactical blunders by the parent company. Every opportunity that afforded Getty was there for Corbis except of course the one or two people who would move on them. Always streamlining and consolidating and m-u-c-k-i-n-g (silly word remover won't let me just spell a simple word here, not meant to be the f word) about. If they wanted to move Veer towards micro then they should have just done it instead of going through SnapVillage (one of those names I complain so much about) then creating VMP then moving away macro images. Clients must leave after every one of those moves and NEVER return. I don't care if SnapVillage failed but knocking off Veer as collateral damage in the process is a real shame(or should that be sham).

Eireann · « **Reply #10 on:** July 06, 2010, 10:49 »

I agree.
Come on Veer, get those ducks in a row!
You've got everything you need, and more, to make this a success.
The Veer - Corbis brand is yours, the super smart and immensely rich guy who sits at the very top, knows a lot about creating a successful business, a lot about 'micro' - could easily extend it to 'stock' is backing you up, and you've got thousands upon thousands of photographers willing to join you.
What's there to stop you?
The bonus - very generous, but what you really need is microstock know-how.
Veer site is beautiful, (the most, actually), but it's not easy to navigate. Simplify it for the buyers.
Fast, furious and easy search engine - extra clicks to be avoided.
A much, much faster inspection time. You need reviewers and they need to know what they're doing.
While I upload a second vector to Fotolia, the first one has already been inspected. It happens live, in real time. They're that fast. They can do it, so can you.
Marketing.

Sites like Deposit Photos (brand new, faulty English, 1.6 mill images only) or ThinkStock (a lot of old images and IStock second hand stuff) sell more than Veer.
It shouldn't be happening.
We can only hope things will change for the better.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I want them to do well.

microstockphoto.co.uk · « **Reply #11 on:** July 06, 2010, 11:18 »

Quote from: Eireann on July 06, 2010, 10:49

It shouldn't be happening.
We can only hope things will change for the better.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I want them to do well.

The planned mid-summer merge of veer into main collection and promised marketing should hopefully change things for the better. At least for us microstockers.
If nothing happens even then, then I will start worrying.

PeterChigmaroff · « **Reply #12 on:** July 06, 2010, 13:10 »

Quote from: microstockphoto.co.uk on July 06, 2010, 11:18

Quote from: Eireann on July 06, 2010, 10:49
It shouldn't be happening.
We can only hope things will change for the better.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I want them to do well.

The planned mid-summer merge of veer into main collection and promised marketing should hopefully change things for the better. At least for us microstockers.
If nothing happens even then, then I will start worrying.

As they say the best predictor of the near future is the recent past. Give it up.

ap · « **Reply #13 on:** July 06, 2010, 14:21 »

Quote from: Eireann on July 06, 2010, 10:49

Sites like Deposit Photos (brand new, faulty English, 1.6 mill images only) or ThinkStock (a lot of old images and IStock second hand stuff) sell more than Veer.

they don't sell subs or are giving their credits away like ts and dps. in fact, they seem to sell a lot of els when the timing is right.

also, with such a generous offer for the dash, they must be croaking with files by now. give them a break.

cathyslife · « **Reply #14 on:** July 06, 2010, 14:37 »

Quote from: ap on July 06, 2010, 14:21

also, with such a generous offer for the dash, they must be croaking with files by now. give them a break.

Like they didn't know/anticipate/have a clue that there would be a lot of contributors uploading once they announced the Dash for Cash and didn't have time to prepare for it? Give ME a break.

Artemis · « **Reply #15 on:** July 06, 2010, 16:31 »

i agree ap.
I think they are very aware they failed their frst microstocklaunch and are planning to do it better this time (otherwise the dash for cash would be a very stupid plan from their perspective).
They even haven't done that bad for me before the dash for cash, $105 with 50 pictures....not breathtaking but better than fx. Bigstock.

Eireann · « **Reply #16 on:** July 06, 2010, 19:46 »

@Ap,
Actually, Veer inspection times have always been very long. Even before the Dashing rush.
They need more reviewers.
And you missed my point.
I'm on their side and I want them to do well.
Fingers crossed, this time they will.

cthoman · « **Reply #17 on:** July 06, 2010, 20:47 »

The first couple months on Veer it did feel very much like SnapVillage 2 "The Revenge". But the last few months have really piqued my interest in it. I'm curious to see how their relaunch goes. It will be interesting to see if someone can really launch a new big player. Some of my most promising new players are illustration or vector only. This had kind of lead me to believe that new upstarts will have a more unique feel or content (like boutique shops

). But Veer becoming successful could really put a dent in that theory. We'll see.

tiero · « **Reply #18 on:** July 07, 2010, 03:04 »

Today i checked my earning on veer site ( yes, from time to time it's possible to sell few images...

) and...
...surprise!
All my images gone! My portfolio is empty!
Nice joke, I hope it's just some kind of bug or mistake...I need to investigate.

sharpshot · « **Reply #19 on:** July 07, 2010, 03:42 »

I will give veer another year and see what happens. They have taken the risk of spending lots of money to pay us to upload, they are going to spend lots of money marketing the site. What else do we want them to do? It is going to take time for us to see an improvement in sales, I don't mind waiting. They are already doing better than most of the sites launched after 2005, it isn't easy to get in to the big 4 but I wouldn't be surprised if they replace DT one day in the future.

cathyslife · « **Reply #20 on:** July 07, 2010, 06:28 »

Quote from: sharpshot on July 07, 2010, 03:42

I will give veer another year and see what happens. They have taken the risk of spending lots of money to pay us to upload, they are going to spend lots of money marketing the site. What else do we want them to do? It is going to take time for us to see an improvement in sales, I don't mind waiting. They are already doing better than most of the sites launched after 2005, it isn't easy to get in to the big 4 but I wouldn't be surprised if they replace DT one day in the future.

I will wait around and see if the marketing brings more sales. I, too, hope for their success.

Boom · « **Reply #21 on:** July 07, 2010, 11:08 »

Interesting snap shot of traffic to the top 4 and Veer over April, May and June (hopefully my attachement can be viewed). Note Veer dip at the end of June.

FYI - Google is ranked number 1, iStock around the 200 mark (which means they are the the 200th most popular website on the net from an inbound traffic perspective), Shutterstock, Dreamtsime & Fotolia receive similar levels of traffic (ranked around 1,000), Veer outside of 10,000 and dropping.

studioportosabbia · « **Reply #22 on:** July 07, 2010, 12:32 »

They have taken the risk of spending lots of money to pay us to upload -> there is no risk here: Dash for Cash applies to all approved uploads till june 30th......the one's I submitted half of May are still pending!

FD · « **Reply #23 on:** July 07, 2010, 12:38 »

Quote from: sharpshot on July 07, 2010, 03:42

I will give veer another year and see what happens. They have taken the risk of spending lots of money to pay us to upload, they are going to spend lots of money marketing the site. What else do we want them to do? It is going to take time for us to see an improvement in sales, I don't mind waiting.

+ 1. We need to be fair to sites that invest in us to upload. I personally never dump sites that paid me to upload, even if the revenue there is small. They deserve a chance then, and more than a year imho.

sharpshot · « **Reply #24 on:** July 07, 2010, 16:53 »

Quote from: studioportosabbia on July 07, 2010, 12:32

They have taken the risk of spending lots of money to pay us to upload -> there is no risk here: Dash for Cash applies to all approved uploads till june 30th......the one's I submitted half of May are still pending!

They said any in the queue before June 30th will get the bonus if they are approved. Reviews are going to take a long time because they have been swamped with images.

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