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« on: October 01, 2016, 09:05 »
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Guys, for those who also frustrated about videohive pending time and unreasonable rejects, please write here https://forums.envato.com/t/stockfootage-time-review/66305

I think together we can do something..

It's really fantastic, what is going on there.. From my 1000 last submitted videos, I think only 40-50 got approved. Btw, I am one of the top authors on VH with 700-800 sales per month.. I've put much more money and effort in producing those new clips, and really all of them get rejected.

Who are those inspectors (mostly form Hungary) with their date of registration in 2015-2016. Do they really have skill to understand what is video footage? What are the criteria of rejecting footage?

I know that it's not only my problem: I talked with the authors - with a lot of them - and all of them have the same situation. One year ago, when my footages were worse, than they are now, I had about 85% of my clips being accepted, and now, when I start to invest much more in production (and I see, that sales become higher and higher on the major competitors sites) I have about 4-5% acceptance rate on Videohive.

Earlier there were experienced inspectors (like Motion Revolver) who is the author also. And it was possible to talk with him, to describe something, to find a solution. And now the inspectors are workers with the registration date on the early 2016, and I (and all other authors) see this unbelievable rejection rates.

Of course the inspectors team can say that now they are more restricted with acceptance of the items, because of growing quality of the collection, but it's not true. Many contributors (and me) have noticed, that all of their nature shots submitted were accepted, and all of the lifestyle shootings were rejected.

It's very strange.

There are no real reasons of rejection. When the shot was made from the tripod, they say: add a motion to it. When it was shot from the slider or steadicam, they don't like this movement and ask to use tripod.

All this is very strange, and the question is, do the reviewers have enough skill in video-world, or they make their decisions without having this skill? Do they know, what modern advertisement (Cannes Lions for example) made of? There are no tripod shots with 100% pixeled focus - video is not a photo and it has another laws... if they know it, I don't understand this 4-5% acceptance rates and rejection a lot of well-actioned clips, especially after my 85-100% acceptance rate in 2013-2015..

For example this clip https://videohive.net/item/photographers-trying-to-make-the-best-shot/15727770?s_rank=1 , which has earned more than 4000$ on other marketplaces was rejected on Videohive for 7 (!) times. After it was approved it starts to sell on Videohive also. And there are dozens of another examples.

Here are rejected clips from my recent batch:

one http://www.shutterstock.com/ru/video/clip-19393000-stock-footage-timelapse-shot-of-night-bangkok-the-capital-of-thailand-transport-traffic-in-illuminated-streets.html?src=gallery/WzTyDJ4HKVJ9VZfLsHPxAg:4:98/3p

two: http://www.shutterstock.com/ru/video/clip-19476715-stock-footage-back-shot-of-doctor-and-little-boy-walking-in-hospital-corridor-holding-hands-child-wearing-the.html?src=gallery/WzTyDJ4HKVJ9VZfLsHPxAg:4:26/3p

three: http://www.shutterstock.com/ru/video/clip-19393006-stock-footage-timelapse-shot-of-people-traffic-in-airport-hall-and-modern-glass-lifts-moving-up-and-down.html?src=gallery/WzTyDJ4HKVJ9VZfLsHPxAg:4:96/3p

four: http://www.shutterstock.com/ru/video/clip-19392808-stock-footage-on-the-coast-of-city-perea-greece-on-evening-streets-walking-people-then-seen-how-young-girl-sits.html?src=gallery/WzTyDJ4HKVJ9VZfLsHPxAg:5:52/3p

five: http://www.shutterstock.com/ru/video/clip-19478008-stock-footage-in-pool-on-roof-of-a-hotel-in-kuala-lumpur-malaysia-couple-in-love-looking-to-night-city-with.html?src=gallery/WzTyDJ4HKVJ9VZfLsHPxAg:2:84/3p

six: http://www.shutterstock.com/ru/video/clip-19477951-stock-footage-view-from-a-boat-sailing-to-the-dark-cave-of-green-isle-in-trang-an-vietnam-tour-to-explore-the.html?src=gallery/WzTyDJ4HKVJ9VZfLsHPxAg:2:97/3p

this is infinity list, I can post thousands of links of clips that are: "too far off the standards we require"

As I see situation on main stocks from the authors side, there are times, when market decides to be very restricted with acceptance. Too very I mean :) of course we don't talk about any kind of amateur and not proffecionally made clips-of course not about it) for many years it was Getty, and than they have changed their policy, then it become Pond5, and they also changed their view, rejecting only clips that are totally out of the market: with no sense, no idea, not in focus on main subject parts of the footage). But not rejecting without any reason..

And those - 40 days of pending time.. There are no markets with such a long review time.. It's not very important - because anyway all the batches will be rejected.

Anyway - I hope for the best, and hope that we could find a solution. Envato was  the first stock I started thinking about this work as about business (because, when you are sure that most of your clips will be quickly downloaded - you can calculate the pre-pro-and postproduction sides..

If you are in the same situation as me, please write it to Envato: https://forums.envato.com/t/stockfootage-time-review/66305

« Last Edit: October 01, 2016, 09:12 by danr13 »


« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2016, 16:30 »
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I think they're looking for more graded, wow footage. I noticed you have an ungraded looks on many clips, maybe that's what they're rejecting them for?

I've gotten a few rejections too, but most clips get accepted. Sometimes they accept the 4k version but not the HD version, which is quite strange... My clips so far are mostly nature, wildlife and city time-lapse clips.

« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2016, 01:15 »
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i don't know what you are thinking when you supply them with 4k clips. you mock your own work.

alno

« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2016, 04:28 »
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i don't know what you are thinking when you supply them with 4k clips. you mock your own work.

Yes, everybody knows that 4K clips are so hard to be produced nowdays. Only chosen few are capable of that sacred ritual and every time you hit rec button small white rabbit get killed somewhere in the world. 

« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2016, 06:44 »
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Precisely. 4k was special in 2013.

I think it's crazy to price 4k at four times the HD price. It doesn't make sense, other than pixel-wise, which is crazy... It's not four times harder, nor four times more expensive (except storage space, but that's so cheap) to make 4k clips.

25-50% higher seems more like a reasonable premium for 4k footage in my opinion. Then we would see many more 4k sales.

In the music side of things you don't price uncompressed .wav 4.4 times higher than 320kbps .mp3 (which would reflect storage). That's just crazy.

I have a small collection of simpler nature clips on VH and so far I have seen 64% 4k sales. On the other sites where my portfolio is much bigger I see about 2-10% 4k sales.

That tells me a few things:

Buyers want 4k unless it's too expensive.
HD prices on VH are too low.
$25 is cheap enough for any clip.
4k prices on most other sites are too high / the difference between HD and 4k pricing is too big.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2016, 09:06 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2016, 08:37 »
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The prices on VH are too low! There's no way for me to upload any footage there!
There are contributors who think they will outsmart others who don't support agencies with low prices. But in reality they are responsible for undervaluing the work of all contributors and I don't have any respect to them.
danr13, maybe VH are making you a favor when they reject your clips and you will have more sales on the other agencies with higher prices (royalties)!

« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2016, 14:22 »
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The prices on VH are too low! There's no way for me to upload any footage there!
There are contributors who think they will outsmart others who don't support agencies with low prices. But in reality they are responsible for undervaluing the work of all contributors and I don't have any respect to them.
danr13, maybe VH are making you a favor when they reject your clips and you will have more sales on the other agencies with higher prices (royalties)!

I totally agree. 8 for HD and 25 for 4k is ridiculous, and that's before the agencies %.
I can't afford to put my catalogue of clips on there because if people do shop around (which I'm sure some must do) I want them to buy my clips at the higher rates.
There is a market for all prices I'm sure but I value my work higher. 8 HD clips should only be the dregs of contributors catalogues but some people supply them there best works, doesn't make sense to me?

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2016, 22:41 »
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The prices on VH are too low! There's no way for me to upload any footage there!
There are contributors who think they will outsmart others who don't support agencies with low prices. But in reality they are responsible for undervaluing the work of all contributors and I don't have any respect to them.
danr13, maybe VH are making you a favor when they reject your clips and you will have more sales on the other agencies with higher prices (royalties)!

I totally agree. 8 for HD and 25 for 4k is ridiculous, and that's before the agencies %.
I can't afford to put my catalogue of clips on there because if people do shop around (which I'm sure some must do) I want them to buy my clips at the higher rates.
There is a market for all prices I'm sure but I value my work higher. 8 HD clips should only be the dregs of contributors catalogues but some people supply them there best works, doesn't make sense to me?

It costs Pepsi millions of dollars to make one solitary can of Pepsi, yet they sell their cans at less than $1. How can they afford to do that? Because they don't just make one can of Pepsi, and they don't just sell one can of Pepsi.

If you've never uploaded to VideoHive then there's no way to tell if you'll sell one clip per month, or hundreds of clips per month. Yes, any sale that's $100 is considerably better than a sale at $8, but it doesn't really mean anything without a sales quantity as well. A high cost per clip doesn't automatically dictate financial success.

If I go to the bank manager for a mortgage and I tell him that my stock clips cost $1m each, his eyes are going to light up. If I then tell him that I haven't sold any yet, he's going to be considerably less impressed. I value my work at what it will sell for. And what it will sell well for. That price varies on different sites. 


 

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