Author Topic: 2013 is here - how about the promisses? (Read 74663 times)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 06, 2012, 00:52 »

Quote from: CD123 on December 06, 2012, 00:40

Quote from: luissantos84 on December 05, 2012, 19:30
Quote from: CD123 on December 05, 2012, 19:21
Quote from: luissantos84 on December 05, 2012, 19:01
congratulations 123RF for the raise!

?

won't they get a raise?

I am sure "they" will! Question is, who are they?

not easy for you to understand me, pretty much I am thinking of 123RF pockets, contributors that will have a raise? have no idea and pretty much don't care too!

CD123 · « **Reply #26 on:** December 06, 2012, 04:02 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on December 06, 2012, 00:52

Quote from: CD123 on December 06, 2012, 00:40
Quote from: luissantos84 on December 05, 2012, 19:30
Quote from: CD123 on December 05, 2012, 19:21
Quote from: luissantos84 on December 05, 2012, 19:01
congratulations 123RF for the raise!

?

won't they get a raise?

I am sure "they" will! Question is, who are they?

not easy for you to understand me, pretty much I am thinking of 123RF pockets, contributors that will have a raise? have no idea and pretty much don't care too!

The winking face means a I do understand you, I am just exploring the statement further = I do not think there are many people who will see the raise part of 123RF's new commission structure. Clearer for you now?

grafix04 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 06, 2012, 07:10 »

Quote from: CD123 on December 06, 2012, 04:02

Quote from: luissantos84 on December 06, 2012, 00:52
Quote from: CD123 on December 06, 2012, 00:40
Quote from: luissantos84 on December 05, 2012, 19:30
Quote from: CD123 on December 05, 2012, 19:21
Quote from: luissantos84 on December 05, 2012, 19:01
congratulations 123RF for the raise!

?

won't they get a raise?

I am sure "they" will! Question is, who are they?

not easy for you to understand me, pretty much I am thinking of 123RF pockets, contributors that will have a raise? have no idea and pretty much don't care too!

The winking face means a I do understand you, I am just exploring the statement further = I do not think there are many people who will see the raise part of 123RF's new commission structure. Clearer for you now?

Luis was congratulating 123rf on their raise from the money they will receive from cutting our commissions. He wasn't referring to any contributors.

CD123 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 06, 2012, 08:04 »

Quote from: grafix04 on December 06, 2012, 07:10

Luis was congratulating 123rf on their raise from the money they will receive from cutting our commissions. He wasn't referring to any contributors.

OK, got you (and Luis). Thank you for the translation

(Sorry Luis)

Microbius · « **Reply #29 on:** December 06, 2012, 11:02 »

15000 + credits, probably 40% ish better than 2011

luissantos84 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 06, 2012, 11:02 »

Quote from: CD123 on December 06, 2012, 08:04

Quote from: grafix04 on December 06, 2012, 07:10
Luis was congratulating 123rf on their raise from the money they will receive from cutting our commissions. He wasn't referring to any contributors.

OK, got you (and Luis). Thank you for the translation
(Sorry Luis)

all good CD

gillian vann · « **Reply #31 on:** December 06, 2012, 15:26 »

I haven't given it much thought, nor did I focus strongly on them - seemed unattainable. I like the site but they'll probably drift back to about #9 in order of uploading.

Phil · « **Reply #32 on:** December 06, 2012, 15:57 »

Quote from: lisafx on December 05, 2012, 18:20

I'm keeping 50%. Sales have actually been quite good for me on 123 for the past 6 months or so. One of the few sites showing significant growth for me.

me too

click_click · « **Reply #33 on:** December 06, 2012, 15:58 »

Quote from: Phil on December 06, 2012, 15:57

Quote from: lisafx on December 05, 2012, 18:20
I'm keeping 50%. Sales have actually been quite good for me on 123 for the past 6 months or so. One of the few sites showing significant growth for me.

me too

+1

CD123 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 06, 2012, 17:34 »

Glad to see some positive feedback. I also like the site a lot. They have been my nr. 1 seller for very long. Just struggling with sales from my port last few months it seems. SS only passed it on YTD recently.

OK, Alex. Seems like there is some good feedback rolling here. Will be a good queue for you to come in now and confirm your plans for 2013....

Poncke · « **Reply #35 on:** December 06, 2012, 17:58 »

Started in april 2012, stopped uploading a month ago

Credits:
Sub: 110
S: 51
M: 88
L: 129
XL: 96
XXLTF: 20
XXLMH: 5
PEL: 50
EEL: 0
CEL: 0
MS: 0
100MB: 0
200MB: 0
300MB: 0

Total: 549
(Royalty Level: 35%)

CD123 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 06, 2012, 18:04 »

Quote from: Poncke on December 06, 2012, 17:58

Started in april 2012, stopped uploading a month ago

Credits:
Sub: 110
S: 51
M: 88
L: 129
XL: 96
XXLTF: 20
XXLMH: 5
PEL: 50
EEL: 0
CEL: 0
MS: 0
100MB: 0
200MB: 0
300MB: 0

Total: 549
(Royalty Level: 35%)

I feel your pain brother.....

PS No man! You are counting wrong. Each download is not = 1 credit. Go check the scale!

If you click on earnings, just below the "Contributor's Message of the Day" there are 2 tables, the second one is the scale on which you calculate your credits.

Poncke · « **Reply #37 on:** December 06, 2012, 18:07 »

Quote from: CD123 on December 06, 2012, 18:04

Quote from: Poncke on December 06, 2012, 17:58
Started in april 2012, stopped uploading a month ago

Credits:
Sub: 110
S: 51
M: 88
L: 129
XL: 96
XXLTF: 20
XXLMH: 5
PEL: 50
EEL: 0
CEL: 0
MS: 0
100MB: 0
200MB: 0
300MB: 0

Total: 549
(Royalty Level: 35%)

I feel your pain brother.....

Thanks. Its also why the big guys dont get hit, and probably dont feel the need to leave or do something about it. Most big ports keep their 50%. Its the little guys that get hit the hardest.

But dont get me wrong, I am not trying to blame anyone but me for not doing better.

Poncke · « **Reply #38 on:** December 06, 2012, 18:09 »

Quote from: CD123 on December 06, 2012, 18:04

Quote from: Poncke on December 06, 2012, 17:58
Started in april 2012, stopped uploading a month ago

Credits:
Sub: 110
S: 51
M: 88
L: 129
XL: 96
XXLTF: 20
XXLMH: 5
PEL: 50
EEL: 0
CEL: 0
MS: 0
100MB: 0
200MB: 0
300MB: 0

Total: 549
(Royalty Level: 35%)

I feel your pain brother.....

PS No man! You are counting wrong. Each download is not = 1 credit. Go check the scale!

LOL. no, I only had 179 dls

CD123 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 06, 2012, 18:18 »

Just got happy there for you for one moment. Glad I could at least make you LOLed (under the circumstances)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #40 on:** December 06, 2012, 22:33 »

and no reply from 123RF

qwerty · « **Reply #41 on:** December 07, 2012, 03:29 »

Another load of BS about how you can even earn higher %, rewarding the good contributors. Then people with more than 5000 photos are either losing % or at best managing to stay even.
Throw away your bootleg copy of the Istock Management 101 book now before its too late.

sarah2 · « **Reply #42 on:** December 07, 2012, 05:11 »

1000 pics and 35% here we come......
Grrrrrrrrrrr

grafix04 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 07, 2012, 06:06 »

What irks me is that they never paid us 50% anyway. If I look at my stats, I can't see where I've ever received 50% of the sale. They paid me somewhere between 0% to 45% depending on what discounts, freebies or what country the image was purchased from. If they had fixed commissions, I would probably stay. But dropping to 45% really means that I'm dropping somewhere between 0% and 45%.

The other thing that bothers me is if they have a few bad month my commission will drop again. Why should my commissions drop if they're suddenly not performing? It's bad enough to cope with reduced sales from a poor performing site, but reduced sales with lower commissions is unacceptable.

It will be interesting to see if they go ahead with the change. I can't imagine too many people staying if they do. They don't have a way to disable images so people won't bother having to upload everything again and with the new structure, not many new contributors will sign up. They'll become a low earner in no time. They're sitting on 14% but I can't remember what they were on before this announcement was made. Can anyone else remember? Was it somewhere around 16%

trek · « **Reply #44 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:43 »

They should honor their previous commitment to grandfather established contributors at the 50% rate. Over the last four years I've steadily sent the best I have. About 1700 images so far. (I'm a part timer...still need the day job to pay the bills.) My effort, like other contributors, has helped them grow and survive. Instead of recognition we are being shoved into the dirt. Royalty cuts suck.

heywoody · « **Reply #45 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:57 »

Grandfathering is, by definition, an unfair practice - not that fairness and business have any relationship but I'd have nothing to do with any site that had such a practice. They are there to make money for themselves not the suppliers. That's fair enough but they will simply become not worth submitting to for the small guy and I won't be adding any new stuff unless the subs price at least is standard across all contributors. If enough small guys feel the same there won't be much in the way of savings as the big folks keep their commissions but they will simply have less new material to offer than the competition.

CD123 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 07, 2012, 08:22 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on December 06, 2012, 22:33

and no reply from 123RF

Still 3 weeks to go. Hopefully a rep will still be kind enough to pay us a visit here and let us know what is going down (unless the attitude is "we have told you what is to come, what more is there to say?). $:-\$

You might be not to far of the mark there heywoody, but, as proven with quite a number of new sites, even the worst paying sites still get their influx of hopeful new combers.

kuriouskat · « **Reply #47 on:** December 07, 2012, 08:32 »

Hmmmm, worked really hard to grow my port in 2012, from just under 800 to just under 1300 images but I'm still going to drop to 45%

Not happy - where do I go to whinge??

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #48 on:** December 07, 2012, 08:33 »

Heywoody, iStock has a history of "grandfathering", in fact it was the first place I ever heard the word.

Actually, I don't see the unfairness. If you contract to supply material at a fixed rate and then the rate is changed shouldn't you still be entitled to the terms on which you supplied it? Perhaps you wouldn't have provided it in the first place if the new conditions were in force, so not grandfathering is really a way of reneging on agreements.

alex123rf · « **Reply #49 on:** December 07, 2012, 08:40 »

Hi Everyone,

I have briefed our IT team on the mechanics of the new commission levels system, and how to calculate it.

You will be able to see your current contributor levels by next week.

Thank you,

Alex.

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