Author Topic: got $3.00 for a EEL sale? really? (Read 19289 times)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 18, 2013, 08:51 »

Quote from: Mellimage on March 18, 2013, 06:04

Does anyone know what the XXLMH license should be selling for? I do not even see this License type listed with the images.

Mellimage · « **Reply #51 on:** March 18, 2013, 09:12 »

Thank you, Luis, I could not find this information anywhere on the site (but looks as if I am just blind)... .

luissantos84 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 18, 2013, 09:14 »

Quote from: Mellimage on March 18, 2013, 09:12

Thank you, Luis, I could not find this information anywhere on the site (but looks as if I am just blind)... .

I still wonder where is the LEL license

luissantos84 · « **Reply #53 on:** April 07, 2013, 20:26 »

STILL wonder where is the LEL license (like the price for the buyer... ?)

had one today for 5.22$

alex123rf · « **Reply #54 on:** April 08, 2013, 00:11 »

HI Luis,

The LEL is a specially negotiated license. So it's not listed anywhere on the site.

Thank you very much,

Alex.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #55 on:** April 08, 2013, 00:29 »

Quote from: alex123rf on April 08, 2013, 00:11

HI Luis,

The LEL is a specially negotiated license. So it's not listed anywhere on the site.

Thank you very much,

Alex.

if I may add what a great negotiation

p.s: don't you think it is about time to write it down on the website? can you explain us the license? if you have a minute of course

rubyroo · « **Reply #56 on:** April 08, 2013, 04:14 »

Quote from: alex123rf on March 13, 2013, 20:55

Thank you for reaching out.

HUGE ASIDE: I don't mean to pick on you particularly Alex... but why on earth do US companies keep thanking people for 'reaching out'?

It makes me feel as though I'm seeking religious conversion or have contacted a counsellor rather than a business. What's wrong with 'thanks for contacting us' or 'thank you for raising this issue'? Surely these are more accurate descriptions for what has occurred. To be thanked for 'reaching out' when someone is angry about something only adds fuel to the fire IMO.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel companies are sometimes brainwashed into believing that the current corporate- or PR-speak is actually a good idea, even when it drives people nuts because it makes them feel the speaker is locked in a mantra rather than taking them seriously.

Don't get me wrong... I think 123RF are great at responding swiftly to concerns... but that phrase has a certain 'distance' about it.

OK.. rant over. Just wanted to drop that pebble in the pond. You can thank me for 'leaching out' if you want. As you were...

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #57 on:** April 08, 2013, 06:18 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on April 08, 2013, 00:29

Quote from: alex123rf on April 08, 2013, 00:11
HI Luis,

The LEL is a specially negotiated license. So it's not listed anywhere on the site.

Thank you very much,

Alex.

if I may add what a great negotiation

p.s: don't you think it is about time to write it down on the website? can you explain us the license? if you have a minute of course

Maybe ms sites should employ contributors as their chief negotiators. Luis maybe a good choice.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #58 on:** April 08, 2013, 10:09 »

Quote from: Microstock Posts on April 08, 2013, 06:18

Quote from: luissantos84 on April 08, 2013, 00:29
Quote from: alex123rf on April 08, 2013, 00:11
HI Luis,

The LEL is a specially negotiated license. So it's not listed anywhere on the site.

Thank you very much,

Alex.

if I may add what a great negotiation

p.s: don't you think it is about time to write it down on the website? can you explain us the license? if you have a minute of course

Maybe ms sites should employ contributors as their chief negotiators. Luis maybe a good choice.

ahahah don't think I would my friend but I agree with you 110%, this isn't a proper way of doing business, of course I am talking about these kind of deals we have no data

Poncke · « **Reply #59 on:** April 08, 2013, 13:23 »

Its all too much covert, we agreed a licence, you get 5 dollar, what, what licence, what was sold for how much now? You might have sold an image for 300 dollar and pay 5 dollar to Luis and the buyer could as well have gotten all copyrights.

I went from loving 123 to hating them more then FT.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #60 on:** April 08, 2013, 13:55 »

right, we need an explanation for this matter, this type of things cannot happen

1 - 123RF does special EL deals (like iStock with Google)
2 - contributors dig and find it
3 - agency acts as a saint and no explanation, actually with no shame says its a deal that is not written anywhere
4 - contributors lose trust once again
5 - believe its obvious....

luissantos84 · « **Reply #61 on:** April 12, 2013, 18:26 »

AND there is no explanation!

tickstock · « **Reply #62 on:** April 14, 2013, 10:41 »

Poncke · « **Reply #63 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:12 »

Quote from: tickstock on April 14, 2013, 10:41

Quote from: luissantos84 on April 08, 2013, 13:55
right, we need an explanation for this matter, this type of things cannot happen

1 - 123RF does special EL deals (like iStock with Google)
2 - contributors dig and find it
3 - agency acts as a saint and no explanation, actually with no shame says its a deal that is not written anywhere
4 - contributors lose trust once again
5 - believe its obvious....

Don't forget Shutterstock pays out $2 for ELs with no license available publicly for us to look at.

Here is an explanation of two of those extended license options, one with and one without a sensitive use option.

· A license without a sensitive use option.
For individual images downloaded under these licenses, the contributor will typically receive a royalty of $2 to $15 or more, based on the cost of the license and the contributor’s earnings tier (20 to 30%).
http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/individual-image-licenses-update

THose are not ELs but SODs, an EL pays 28 dollar to the contributor and cost the buyer about 80 dollar.

tickstock · « **Reply #64 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:19 »

Poncke · « **Reply #65 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:28 »

Its not an Extended Licence, its an extension to the licences options they already offered. Thats what I understand from it.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #66 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:35 »

Quote from: Poncke on April 14, 2013, 14:28

Its not an Extended Licence, its an extension to the licences options they already offered. Thats what I understand from it.

exactly, their license name is "Single & Other Downloads", that includes the buyer wanting a single picture or two perhaps and then there are the sensitive use licenses that can go up to 120$

tickstock · « **Reply #67 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:36 »

tickstock · « **Reply #68 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:37 »

Poncke · « **Reply #69 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:42 »

Quote from: tickstock on April 14, 2013, 14:36

Quote from: Poncke on April 14, 2013, 14:28
Its not an Extended Licence, its an extension to the licences options they already offered. Thats what I understand from it.

Please explain how the Extended License is not an Extended License?
"Here is an explanation of two of those extended license options, one with and one without a sensitive use option."

http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/individual-image-licenses-update

Look, you are twisting words, notice how they write extended licence options, lower case three words, and you write Extended Licence, capitalized and two words. Thats making it a fallacy. SS doesnt have Extended Licences.

tickstock · « **Reply #70 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:47 »

linma · « **Reply #71 on:** April 14, 2013, 20:35 »

One of my image got a 100MB dl in Apr.10, just got $6.86, after read this topic, I found that this dl may has problem too, Am I right?

alex123rf · « **Reply #72 on:** April 15, 2013, 08:35 »

A limited extended license is something that is negotiated for between 123RF and another organization. The deal is likely to be large and that special licensing terms shall apply. These licenses are definitely more expensive than your run of the mill sizes on 123RF.com and are required by the buyer. Every case differs but is locked down by an agreement between the buyer and 123RF.com.

We do not enter into deals whereby distribution in the content's original form is permitted as its against our EULA.

For image enlargements we pay:
20 credits for 100 MB enlargements
40 credits for 200 MB enlargements
60 credits for 300 MB enlargements

From what you wrote, the rate appears to be correct, of course, it depends on your tier as a contributor as well. But let's assume you're a rank 5 contributor whereby you get 50% of the earnings. The per credit price appears to be $6.86 / 20 credits / 50% contributor rate = $0.686 per credit.

On reaching out, it's a term that has been going around for quite some time. Ok, if you don't like reaching out, then thanks for contacting us. Perhaps that's better?

Thanks,

Alex.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #73 on:** April 15, 2013, 12:55 »

so 123RF and buyer decide how many times a picture/license will be used? 20 credits allow how many? you guys like to make it so confusing, with less sales every month things are becoming very good

Poncke · « **Reply #74 on:** April 15, 2013, 13:18 »

Really weird, I go from BME to WME, what a drop.

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