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« Reply #100 on: November 14, 2014, 10:59 »
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What do I get paid for my hard work is the first question. If I were non-exclusive I probably wouldn't be loading to iStock either! I find the iStock/Getty connection to be of more value to me in both money and time. Do I  have a plan "B" yes! I have a plan "C" and "D" as well. Companies will always look out for their bottom line and I expect that. I don't take decisions personally as no one really cares about my work but me. These are all companies trying to make as much profit as possible and doing it on our backs. Make decisions that are best for you $$ wise and forget about saying company X is better then company Z. Focus on producing compelling content and rising above the storm. The better work you produce the more other doors will open for you!

The old glass half full optimist. 


« Reply #101 on: November 14, 2014, 11:05 »
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Because is instills an idea into people's heads. Case in point this comment from above."I guess my point is that when Shutterstock is reducing the cost of videos by a factor of more than 525 iStock's reduction looks pretty small." This person sees the iStock reduction as just fine. Any future adjustment at SS would be viewed as not too bad when compared to others.
I didn't say it was just fine, I would like prices to be higher everywhere.  You said iStock is undercutting the market by reducing pricing by a factor of 3, were you complaining that Shutterstock was undercutting the market before then?  I said it looks pretty small in comparison, it's not even actually undercutting the market.   Look at Dreamstime or 123RF where prices are already at the low end of that range, or Pond5 and you can see many people selling their work for 10 dollars.   15 cents per video is in a whole different category.  Many people would be ok with selling video for 50 dollars or more (as seen at Pond5) but no one should be ok with selling video for 15 cents.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2014, 11:28 by tickstock »

« Reply #102 on: November 14, 2014, 11:27 »
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I'm ok if they sell my videos for 15 cents as long as I will be getting around 20 dollars per download ;D

« Reply #103 on: November 14, 2014, 11:33 »
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I can't understand why they would even want the customers who can only afford might-as-well-be-free!!!! 

« Reply #104 on: November 14, 2014, 11:39 »
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I'm ok if they sell my videos for 15 cents as long as I will be getting around 20 dollars per download ;D

Funny, but if you were serious, I'd disagree. Except for a brief promotional intro, conditioning buyers to accept those prices would be very bad news. And then there's the Mr. Mickawber issue of income being less than expenses...

« Reply #105 on: November 14, 2014, 12:18 »
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You bet I am an optimist! I set my own hours, See my family more, Shoot what I love, Earn money while I sleep, I am never bored, I love the challenge. In short I have the perfect job!

« Reply #106 on: November 14, 2014, 12:51 »
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You bet I am an optimist! I set my own hours, See my family more, Shoot what I love, Earn money while I sleep, I am never bored, I love the challenge. In short I have the perfect job!
Been doing the same myself for 20 years now and know exactly what you mean. To me, what's happening, is just another move, a step, towards a direction that will make this perfect life of ours unsustainable.

Noedelhap

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« Reply #107 on: November 14, 2014, 13:13 »
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Our apologies for any confusion.

Which confusion? It's perfectly clear to me. You should be apologizing for having this "experiment" in the first place!

« Reply #108 on: November 14, 2014, 13:27 »
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You might find this interesting. I wrote to Big Stock about uploading videos to them this is their reply. I would like to get a part of that 15 cent payout.,

"We are not currently accepting new footage contributors. However, if you have video you would like to submit to be licensed as stock, we would recommend checking out our parent company, Shutterstock. They are always accepting new submission applications for Shutterstock.com."

We thank you for your interest and for being part of the Bigstock family.

Kindest regards,
« Last Edit: November 14, 2014, 13:29 by mj007 »

Rinderart

« Reply #109 on: November 14, 2014, 16:10 »
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That is ridiculous.  I wonder if the "bridge to bigstock" conveys videos there. (Edit - Mine don't seem to be there)

Im on bridge also. If mine show up, I will instantly delete them, If I can't I will delete my account, This is Very sad.

« Reply #110 on: November 14, 2014, 16:29 »
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Our apologies for any confusion.

Which confusion? It's perfectly clear to me. You should be apologizing for having this "experiment" in the first place!
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I must also add, the answer from BS is very much anticipated. Surely, before we got the answer, we were all anxious to know, and, we all hoped for a miracle answer that would remove our doubt. Just like when someone cheats on you, you have all the evidence, but you still can not accept the truth, you just need an official answer "Sorry, i cheated on you, and will be doing so again"

« Reply #111 on: November 14, 2014, 18:43 »
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Yes, I learnt the last days that the way for videos to go to bigstock is via ss, not by direct upload as I was told.

so at the moment I don't have to worry that my files will be affected.

Do those who have files on bigstock know about this new offer? Maybe they were asked and agreed to this experiment?

or perhaps it is their own content? I mean, if it is their own files, they can obviously do whatever they like.

Rinderart

« Reply #112 on: November 14, 2014, 21:02 »
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None of Mine are there especially good sellers. I wrote them and asked directly whats up. If I get an answer I'll post it. I did write PM's to some of the biggest Video Players alerting them of this. We need more info from whos in charge about there Plans with our content going forward.

« Reply #113 on: November 14, 2014, 22:30 »
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None of Mine are there especially good sellers. I wrote them and asked directly whats up. If I get an answer I'll post it. I did write PM's to some of the biggest Video Players alerting them of this. We need more info from whos in charge about there Plans with our content going forward.
So  is some of the regular SS videos being shuttled on to the BS site, with or without the contributors' knowledge?

« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2014, 22:38 »
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Big Stock rep said the contributors had opted in

Uncle Pete

« Reply #115 on: November 14, 2014, 22:39 »
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Go back to page two of this thread, before the flood of shouting, conspiracies, and anger... "The contributors who are participating have all opted-in and all of the content is being appropriately licensed with their consent. "

People looking for their video, which might be there, are not reading the message from Bigstock.

For the price part, I have nothing to add. It seems absurdly low.

And the comment about P5 investors I'd be afraid of that and how things will change. Didn't P5 promise something about percentages never changing?  ??? That will be interesting to watch.


None of Mine are there especially good sellers. I wrote them and asked directly whats up. If I get an answer I'll post it. I did write PM's to some of the biggest Video Players alerting them of this. We need more info from whos in charge about there Plans with our content going forward.
So  is some of the regular SS videos being shuttled on to the BS site, with or without the contributors' knowledge?

Really Ron you needed to bump this thread? What? Pages in hours isn;t fast enough for you?

Bump

Rinderart

« Reply #116 on: November 15, 2014, 00:44 »
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Pete, love ya like a brother man, But Maybe just maybe you got nothing to lose, Some of us do and we are concerned. please let us be concerned. No conspiracy, No BS or theories. I/WE want the facts. Plain and simple and please let us determine whats right for us. OK My Friend.

« Reply #117 on: November 15, 2014, 04:39 »
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The contributors opt-in with consent, then I can guess that there's secret negotiation between those contributors and BS? content buy out? Don't affect my video, so I don't care. less competition on higher priced video then.. good!

« Reply #118 on: November 15, 2014, 08:01 »
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A lot of folks read this forum. Maybe some brave BS video contributor  will post what kind of deal they got for uploading videos to BS. I am still guessing BS may have just purchased  them outright for maybe a year timeframe or so as a test.

« Reply #119 on: November 15, 2014, 09:23 »
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The contributors opt-in with consent, then I can guess that there's secret negotiation between those contributors and BS? content buy out? Don't affect my video, so I don't care. less competition on higher priced video then.. good!

In my opinion you should care because if they are successful at .15 cent videos it is a game changer for the industry as a whole....meaning whoever you are with now might end up doing the same thing to compete. Like FOTOLIA's CRUMMY DOLLAR PHOTP CLUB, this would be even worse for videographers "IF" the industry response accordingly.

« Reply #120 on: November 15, 2014, 11:11 »
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That is ridiculous.  I wonder if the "bridge to bigstock" conveys videos there. (Edit - Mine don't seem to be there)

Im on bridge also. If mine show up, I will instantly delete them, If I can't I will delete my account, This is Very sad.

I am afraid it might be too late. After 90 days of delay as per their new contributor agreement, at that give away prices, everyone in the world would already have a copy of your videos.

Rinderart

« Reply #121 on: November 15, 2014, 11:59 »
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Ya see, My only issue is For my work. If this takes off it not only de-values the contributers work But....It de-values mine as well. And as we know and has been Proven there are a Whole bunch of people that simply don't care. crowd sourcing at it's finest. But before I get nuts about this, I will wait for someone whos REALLY in charge to fill us in with the real details. Not he said,She said. To me personally...It's another nail in the coffin. I do hope there is nothing to this Now and going forward for If nothing else, The health of our work.  Big stock was the first site I joined I think, I worked for and with them a long time. I really Hope theres nothing to this Because it will simply Make everyones work worthless.

We gotta stand up on this one guys But..Lets get the facts correct first.

« Reply #122 on: November 15, 2014, 12:42 »
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Ya see, My only issue is For my work. If this takes off it not only de-values the contributers work But....It de-values mine as well. And as we know and has been Proven there are a Whole bunch of people that simply don't care. crowd sourcing at it's finest. But before I get nuts about this, I will wait for someone whos REALLY in charge to fill us in with the real details. Not he said,She said. To me personally...It's another nail in the coffin. I do hope there is nothing to this Now and going forward for If nothing else, The health of our work.  Big stock was the first site I joined I think, I worked for and with them a long time. I really Hope theres nothing to this Because it will simply Make everyones work worthless.

We gotta stand up on this one guys But..Lets get the facts correct first.
I agree completely with your sentiments. Those who believe that this doesn't affect them are wrong. Those that think this actually helps them are really really wrong.
Sometimes you just don't need to know every detail of a bad situation to know it's a bad situation. A spade is still a spade even if you can only see a small corner of it.

« Reply #123 on: November 15, 2014, 14:04 »
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So BS is selling video for a lower price than stills... yeah, that's gotta work.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE ??

« Reply #124 on: November 15, 2014, 15:42 »
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So BS is selling video for a lower price than stills... yeah, that's gotta work.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE ??

Their belief is that some like us may pull our content but we, meaning those who know about the sponging of our assets, are a TINY fraction of the whole. They intend to prey on the un-informed.


 

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