No problem, they cant ban you when you are not logged in, unless they start working with IP bans etc

OK Guys!

Let me see... Is there any lawyers? Can someone look at the laws and tell us that we agreed to not have our voice heard when price of OUR work is tagged to sell them on agencies? Not even when they are cutting the price 10 folds on lowest competitor price? If there is ANY lawyer who can fight those corporate sharks who are always trying to earn with "managing" where that is just filling their own pockets and emptying ours? They are just sharks who found us as their prey.
Our unfortunate position with not having any power to say NO and to give them legal court order is tragedy!
If this can not get on the court and hit their pockets then this industry is over! No chance you can produce and sell videos for silly 15 cents!
Well guys - Stock alliance? Any organization? Anyone? Is there any help on this subject?
[EDIT] Just to add: Jon fcked it up when gone public! The same as Geza did when sold stockxpert to sharks... We need really INDEPENDENT agency!

Just upload to Pond5 and don't bother with the other sites.  They seem to have the most buyers and let us choose our own prices.  I think its almost impossible for BigStock to get many video buyers now, they are too late, like all the sites that fail to get a slice of the stills market.

Quote from: sharpshot on November 25, 2014, 15:26
Just upload to Pond5 and don't bother with the other sites.  They seem to have the most buyers and let us choose our own prices.  I think its almost impossible for BigStock to get many video buyers now, they are too late, like all the sites that fail to get a slice of the stills market.

BigStock desperat move. Anybody know how much did they paid these people to sell out and cut our throats? Stay with Pond5 and drop the rest.

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on December 06, 2014, 22:13

Quote from: sharpshot on November 25, 2014, 15:26
Just upload to Pond5 and don't bother with the other sites.  They seem to have the most buyers and let us choose our own prices.  I think its almost impossible for BigStock to get many video buyers now, they are too late, like all the sites that fail to get a slice of the stills market.

BigStock desperat move. Anybody know how much did they paid these people to sell out and cut our throats? Stay with Pond5 and drop the rest.

I agree with you. I still, however, get decent money from SS on videos. Not sure how long this will last now that BS is trying to crush the video market into worthless product.

I just sold a clip with SS and received $3.60. In my opinion, Pond5 is the only agency out there that isn't trying to crush the video market into a worthless  product.

At what time should video makers become worried about Bigstock Footage? Or is there nothing to fear, for you'd have to assume SS know what they are doing. The BS footage collection now sits at 66,000+ up from 30,000 a couple of months ago.

I know people love to flame iStock but for video now I am averaging $50.00 as an exclusive and with Getty even more! I feel the pricing is very fair for video artist there and am happy to support that direction.

Quote from: jjneff on February 04, 2015, 23:36
I know people love to flame iStock but for video now I am averaging $50.00 as an exclusive and with Getty even more! I feel the pricing is very fair for video artist there and am happy to support that direction.

I think for exclusives that's a fair enough deal, especially as you're getting 35% or so (I imagine) of what they are.

For an independent like me, 15% (earning around $7 for an HD sale) was simply ridiculous and definitely not something I could support.

If istock offered exclusive videos/series the way getty does, they would probably get quite a bit of interesting content, especially localized content that doesn´t sell in high volume.

But to be fully exclusive when the market for video is just starting out? I mean if they were dominating the video marketplace it would be different...

However I am sure it works for some people so i am glad to hear that there are video exclusives that are happy.

Quote from: pkphotos on February 04, 2015, 22:38
At what time should video makers become worried about Bigstock Footage? Or is there nothing to fear, for you'd have to assume SS know what they are doing. The BS footage collection now sits at 66,000+ up from 30,000 a couple of months ago.

And now they are officially advertising their video collection, just got an email.

I dont understand the lack of reaction to this ridiculous scheme, people must have too much trust in SS?

From what I understand all content was opted in voluntarily. It´s not like DPC where our content was placed in a new project without asking us.

Obviously an artist can do with their content whatever they want.

True, but this is the one scheme that will compete with our sale elsewhere. People make a big deal about the public domain collection from Pond5, which does NOT compete with our sale,  but are OK with this one !!!???

I wouldn´t add my content to this, but we don´t know what deal was offered to those who opted in. Maybe they got a huge amount of cash upfront, who knows?

When this becomes the official strategy of bigstock and all content is offered for 15 cents and without giving people an opt out, then I think you will see a very large backlash.

But until then, I think it is difficult to protest. People also offers videos for free in some places.

So far shutterstock has been good at avoiding scandals. I hope they will handle their experiment in a responsible way.

ETA: I understand your point about competing with our sales elsewhere, including sales on SS. It´s not like I am not worried. But as others have pointed out, they  have 66000 files, not 3 million.

RIDICOULOUS !

I can not understand why anyone would contribute their clips to this venture. Someone doing so is pretty much killing off any future sales of those clips (and similars) elsewhere, as well as telling buyers that that is all their clips are worth (very little).  And, of course, lowering the perceived value of stock footage in general. 

88,000 and growing fast. Who are the a######e's who provided their clips for this service?

Shutterstock has offer directly to those selected contributing artist/creator, this is optional, their can reject it or accept the offer. Obviously those content owners in Shutterstock's Bigstock footage collection has accept the offer. What ever the offer is their has decided on their right mind that the offer is 'reasonable'.

I think this is an "OK" business practice by Shutterstock, unlike other major agencies.

From my experience, Shutterstock is capable to bring in big sales, their are good at creatively manipulating offers and packages to buyer for example I ever get $100+ for a HD clip under most 'hated' subscription model, how their do it? so far none other agency able to do this.

The idea with Bigstock plan for me is to accelerate buyer base for footage market.