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Agency Based Discussion => Bigstock.com => Topic started by: RacePhoto on February 20, 2013, 13:39

Title: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: RacePhoto on February 20, 2013, 13:39: Interesting to see how people are doing for downloads, right now, without any subs. We can run a survey at the end of 2013 and see how many downloads the average person improved in that year. Good way to see if the plan is working.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: luissantos84 on February 20, 2013, 13:42: less than 200
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on February 20, 2013, 13:47: Fewer than 200 with 700+ images online.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: tab62 on February 20, 2013, 13:57: BS is insignificant in my life goals of making real money ;)
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: fotografer on February 20, 2013, 14:02: Quote from: luissantos84 on February 20, 2013, 13:42
less than 200
Really surprised at this. How come so few for you? Don't you have many images there?
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: Mantis on February 20, 2013, 14:03: I had about 740 dls there in 2012. No way that even with subs I will hit 50k. Maybe I will hit 745 with subs this year as they simply replace my credit sales.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: fotografer on February 20, 2013, 14:04: I wouldn't reach 50k a year even if they added together the SS and BS sales.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: Travelling-light on February 20, 2013, 14:19: 97 over 5 months. To be fair, that's starting from nil online at the beginning to about 1100 now.
I've just checked, and we actually made slightly more on our own website last year than we did at BS, and this year our own website is way ahead.
It looks as though we will also beat DT this month :)
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: RacePhoto on February 20, 2013, 14:25: Quote from: tab62 on February 20, 2013, 13:57
BS is insignificant in my life goals of making real money ;)

I have a feeling that's a common opinion. I don't think this subs thing is going to improve that opinion either.

If sales go up and income improves, keep in mind anyone would need to have double the downloads to equal the old system, then maybe some people will change their minds. At this stage, I already have the files there, it's not hurting me to do nothing for a year, and just see what happens. I have no inflated expectations.

Quote from: fotografer on February 20, 2013, 14:04
I wouldn't reach 50k a year even if they added together the SS and BS sales.

I suspect hardly anyone would. It seems a little bit extreme to set a level that's unattainable for pretty much everyone except the top 1% almost and afterthought to make one mountain top over the reasonable levels. Peak could have been 20,000 and 38c if you are over that, and they still wouldn't be having many people get to that. At least it would be a goal that someone might try to reach. 50,000? Nice joke.

Yes I'll pay you 20 million dollars if you can swim across the Atlantic ocean.

I'd love for BS to disclose how many contributors had over 50,000 downloads last year? That would be difficult even for the production line photo factories and the huge collections. Maybe they used a dart board to pick the levels? ::)

(http://s5.postimage.org/5eaovy7af/dr_evil_2013_50_K_downloads.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
I Want! (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: nailiaschwarz on February 20, 2013, 14:51: Bigstock was by far the worst site for me. I can't check because my account is closed now, but I think it was about 50 downloads in 2012 ...
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: luissantos84 on February 20, 2013, 18:55: Quote from: fotografer on February 20, 2013, 14:02
Quote from: luissantos84 on February 20, 2013, 13:42
less than 200
Really surprised at this. How come so few for you? Don't you have many images there?

oh man its bad, made 350$ since April 2009 (4823 pictures, don't upload there since December 3th 2012)

Quote from: luissantos84 on February 09, 2013, 16:59
I do more every month with SS that I have made at BigStock since April 2009 (46 months)

1 month at SS = 67 months at BigStock
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: fritz on February 20, 2013, 20:13: Just checked the stats:
869 images sold 2012
$752.71 earnings
4,607 live images
I guess it's not good but for such low earner it's ok.
Cheers,
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: cthoman on February 20, 2013, 20:28: I sold about 10 files less there than I did at GL last year, but GL made me 4 times as much. I sold about half at my own site as what I did at BS, but my own site made 6 times more. So, I have no desire to sell even more files there and get paid even less.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: PixelsAway on February 20, 2013, 20:33: less than 2000 downloads
2.8% of total earnings from microstock
For me every % counts ...
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: luissantos84 on February 20, 2013, 20:43: Quote from: PixelsAway on February 20, 2013, 20:33
2.8% of total earnings from microstock

- 43 times less than SS in terms of earnings
- BigStock (0.91%)
- SS (38.9%)
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: roede-orm on February 21, 2013, 03:46: Just a few downloads, less than 50 on Bigstock.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: rubyroo on February 21, 2013, 04:25: One person voted 50,000 or over.

I guess Yuri dropped in recently... ;)
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: fotografer on February 21, 2013, 06:41: Quote from: cthoman on February 20, 2013, 20:28
I sold about 10 files less there than I did at GL last year, but GL made me 4 times as much. I sold about half at my own site as what I did at BS, but my own site made 6 times more. So, I have no desire to sell even more files there and get paid even less.
I sold had nearly 20 times more dls at BS than I did at GL last year.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: fotografer on February 21, 2013, 06:42: Quote from: luissantos84 on February 20, 2013, 20:43
Quote from: PixelsAway on February 20, 2013, 20:33
2.8% of total earnings from microstock

- 43 times less than SS in terms of earnings
- BigStock (0.91%)
- SS (38.9%)
I make about 15% on BS compared to SS
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: kuriouskat on February 21, 2013, 07:20: 520 with 2800+ images

2 subs so far, so only 49998 to go. 50000 per year equates to 137 per day so I am not holding my breath! At the rate I am selling them, 2 in five days, I will average 146 per year and reach 50000 in the year 2355. That should make a nice little nest egg for my great, great, great, great, great, great, grandchildren. I will be sure to make a note in my will ;)
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: Milinz on February 21, 2013, 10:52: Just over 200.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: daveh900 on February 21, 2013, 10:56: 336 sales from 460 files, just over $800 in revenue.

Not getting rich, but I have nothing to complain about.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: Microbius on February 21, 2013, 11:20: Someone is telling porky pies with the 50000+ vote.

More than 1500 less than 2000 for me
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: Microbius on February 21, 2013, 11:22: Quote from: RacePhoto on February 20, 2013, 14:25
.......
Quote from: fotografer on February 20, 2013, 14:04
I wouldn't reach 50k a year even if they added together the SS and BS sales.

I suspect hardly anyone would. ......

I'd love for BS to disclose how many contributors had over 50,000 downloads last year?
.......

Looks like about 5% on SS http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/if-the-new-bs-rc-system-is-put-in-place-at-ss-which-tier-would-you-be-in/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/if-the-new-bs-rc-system-is-put-in-place-at-ss-which-tier-would-you-be-in/)

Second part, I strongly suspect no one even comes close to 50000 on BS alone
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: fotografer on February 21, 2013, 12:37: Quote from: Microbius on February 21, 2013, 11:20
Someone is telling porky pies with the 50000+ vote.

Under mor than 1500 less than 2000 for me
Yes I thought the same except maybe Yuri.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: Poncke on February 21, 2013, 12:37: 1 no joke
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: MisterElements on February 21, 2013, 12:59: only about 500 dls a year on BigStock (lowest earner).......but...I heard SS has big plans for BigStock...I can imagine easily making an extra 49501 DLs on BS this year!
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: luissantos84 on February 26, 2013, 10:22: I am having so many subs that I need to get another computer just to track them, anybody else?

ZERO
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: gostwyck on February 26, 2013, 10:37: Quote from: luissantos84 on February 26, 2013, 10:22
I am having so many subs that I need to get another computer just to track them, anybody else?

ZERO

I've had 17 sub sales at BS since 16th Feb.

Now I just need another 49,983 more over the next 5.5 months to maintain my 38c royalty rate.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on February 26, 2013, 11:07: Quote from: luissantos84 on February 26, 2013, 10:22
I am having so many subs that I need to get another computer just to track them...

So far just two. Which could be good news in a way - if the sales aren't there, the "experiment" is a failure. By that I mean cheap subs on BigStock. If SS sees that they can't do anything much about subs volume by dropping the price, perhaps they'll drop the whole misbegotten idea.

On the other hand, they'll probably let it go longer than another couple of weeks, and I'm out of Bigstock March 15th unless they change something by then. I'm not expecting that as they've bought the silence of the large contributors by giving them six months at their existing 38 cents...
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: RacePhoto on February 26, 2013, 11:16: I'll be very fair about this. When nearly 90% of the people answering will get 27 cents or less, I can't see that as very inviting or encouraging for anyone to join or upload anything new.

Whoever said, the bridge plan was a way to fill BS with the best of the best, and then sneak in the lower prices, hit that one on the head. Those people just got included in what looked like a nice path to more downloads, instead it was a trap to get their work included in the new subscription package.

This could work out, and make more money. If it doesn't draw users from SS and doesn't sap downloads from the standard program. In other words, brings in new instead of just moving sales. It's a beneficial change.

If it's just shifting the standard downloads and taking buyers from SS, at a lower commission, it's going to decrease income for artists.

I'm still giving it time and lets see what's happening in September when the plan has had some time to season and mature.

50,000 downloads. LOL It's either "the rich get richer" or some sinister plan to set an impossible goal, just to watch and laugh.

Quote from: gostwyck on February 26, 2013, 10:37
Quote from: luissantos84 on February 26, 2013, 10:22
I am having so many subs that I need to get another computer just to track them, anybody else?

ZERO

I've had 17 sub sales at BS since 16th Feb.

Now I just need another 49,983 more over the next 5.5 months to maintain my 38c royalty rate.
Title: Re: How Many Downloads did you have last year (2012) on BigStock?
Post by: PixelBytes on February 26, 2013, 13:56: Quote from: Microbius on February 21, 2013, 11:20
Someone is telling porky pies with the 50000+ vote.

Ditto. I doubt if even Yuri makes that many dls on such a low volume site.