Hi,

Tomorrow the Canva Magic AI tool will be launched. How are contributors going to be compensated for training their AI tool ?

cryptically and poorly

We are committing $200 million over the next 3 years to AI and Creator royalties

Quote from: DannyCanva on October 04, 2023, 16:12
We are committing $200 million over the next 3 years to AI and Creator royalties

Cool. According to stats I found online Canva had over over 100 million stock images, videos, and graphic elements and over 610,000 templates last year.
So 200.000.000$ divided through (over) 100.610.000 contributor items divided through three years means less than 0.66$ per image/video/graphic/template per year. Doesn't sound as exciting as $200 million anymore.

Quote from: Her Ugliness on October 04, 2023, 16:22

Quote from: DannyCanva on October 04, 2023, 16:12
We are committing $200 million over the next 3 years to AI and Creator royalties

Cool. According to stats I found online Canva had over over 100 million stock images, videos, and graphic elements and over 610,000 templates last year.
So 200.000.000$ divided through (over) 100.610.000 contributor items divided through three years means less than 0.66$ per image/video/graphic/template per year. Doesn't sound as exciting as $200 million anymore.

When it comes to the raw number of contributor images, it's important to note that much of our stock content is not used at all (0 usage in a month), or very low (1-2 usages a month). We work with content partners to supplement our library in bulk, but  compensate based on usages and volume. That means that the number of contributed items isn't necessarily the most appropriate figure to look at.

Thanks Danny,

When will you share the details with us on how those royalties will be distributed ?

Hi Danny,

The effect (creator royalties) is inmediately? Or do we as contributors have to apply for this AI to be trained with our content?

today i see this in my canva earning page...

Quote from: DannyCanva on October 04, 2023, 16:12
We are committing $200 million over the next 3 years to AI and Creator royalties

Hi Danny - appreciate that you are participating in this forum.

Since the "AI" tools are designed to create a perpetual income for the corporation (and most are approaching it from a greedy standpoint, aka - they want it "all")... Why not compensate contributors in the same recurring, perpetual income format? I.e., micropayments for ANY/ALL contributor images used in the creation of an "ai" image?

Much fairer, and better long term strategy than the myopic view some corporations are currently taking.

Quote from: Her Ugliness on October 04, 2023, 16:22
"0.66$ per image/video/graphic/template per year."

  I have 15k photos, x 0.66$= 9.900$ / per year, so.... nope.   

It seems the magic has already been trained off of our work and the opt out just means you won't get paid for it? 

How can you still opt out if the magic is already trained?

I am wondering the same.

Quote from: pancaketom on October 05, 2023, 16:53
It seems the magic has already been trained off of our work and the opt out just means you won't get paid for it? 

How can you still opt out if the magic is already trained?

All of Canva's first-party generative AI features are only trained on licensed data with consent. We have not trained or released any first-party generative AI features that have been trained on Creator data (while we're offering a notice period and opt-out).

Some of our existing Magic Studio features are powered by third party partners and open source models, of which we are increasingly mandating a requirement to use fully-licensed datasets. To clarify, we also have not licensed Creator data to third parties, and we have technological and contractual terms that aim to prevent third parties from using Creator data without licensing.

canva hasn't accepted me, but through istock/getty i have many of my photos on canva

how can I choose not to be in your AI training program and, if it's not an option, how will I get paid for my work?

thank you

Quote from: panicAttack on October 09, 2023, 11:23
canva hasn't accepted me, but through istock/getty i have many of my photos on canva

how can I choose not to be in your AI training program and, if it's not an option, how will I get paid for my work?

thank you

Hi there, sorry but you would have to raise these matters with iStock/Getty.

I got 14$. Yeeeeej

I got about 10 dollars. This is even less than they have cut my pay this month, which is about 20 dollars. Not very impressed .

LOL thanks Canva, about 5% of what Adobe paid. 

I am satisfied with the amount I received. I got more than Adobe. But I have more traffic on Canva, I earn more at the moment.

Daylight robbery. I guess we living in 1984 now guys

I get 4 US$  unbelievable

Hi DannyCanva,

I just received $2.01 for my initial participation in the AI Creators program for my 8,966 photos.
Sorry, but I can only hope this is a joke, because $0.000224 can hardly be adequate compensation for using photos to train your AI.

To put this in context - with the same portfolio this is:
-> 0.71% of what Shutterstock paid for the same portfolio
-> 0.67% of what AdobeStock paid for the same portfolio
-> 1.10% of what BigStock paid for the same portfolio

I hope there will be some more compensation here and ask for some official info on this.

Many thanks,
Michael

Double glad now that I opted out of AI training.

Quote from: Dumc on October 18, 2023, 08:17
I got 14$. Yeeeeej

I got 200$ at adove for comparison.

I am sure it will be a monthly bonus. What we received now is too low to be a one time boost as Adobe paid us.