Author Topic: oh, the humiliation... (Read 20356 times)

Lior · « **on:** April 28, 2008, 03:42 »

I browsed a little at crestock earlier today (which I don't do much, I don't upload much there either, since they are good on rejections and poor with sales...) to find out one of my shots in the "worst image of the day" archive...
this is the one: http://www.crestock.com/todays-worst-image.aspx?id=572.

I don't mind getting a beat when I deserve one, but to claim that this photo is blurry makes me think that the honorable judge needs a new pair of glasses...

the picture is pin sharp, and actually sold a few times on other sites (including SS and IS which I believe won't accept blurry shots...).

all in all, it made my day. good to start a day laughing

sharpshot · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2008, 04:17 »

I had a look at it zoomed in on istock and it does look sharp. I suppose the flare from the lights can look like blur if you only look at one bit of the photo. Just goes to prove that judges don't always get it right

leaf · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2008, 04:47 »

well i would have to agree here. it looks like the judge needs new glasses

It does look blurry though if you just looks at the lights and not the buildings.... but.....

timburton · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2008, 04:49 »

Why would any serious site accept something that they think deserves to have fun poked at it? And why would they insult a contributor like that? For that matter, I wonder why theyd want to show off bad images. All seems a bit tacky and amateurish to me.
(image seems fine...)

travelstock · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2008, 05:29 »

well it confirms my suspicions about Crestocks "High Standards"

I'll have to take your word for it that the image is sharp - I've also had plenty of rejections on images that were deemed sharp enough on 6 other stock sites.

The image in my eyes is very usable for stock - plenty of copyspace, and a theme that relates to Electricity generation.

To me the whole "worst images" section is offensive. Is there something in their terms and conditions that entitles them to insult submitters? Maybe a lawsuit waiting to happen

Contakt · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2008, 05:31 »

if there's one dope thats going to hasten the death of any stock site its that arrogunt wigged gobshite waving his gavel around like he knows what hes talking about. so incensed wuz i by some of his off the wall critiques i simply stopped uploading, which reminds me i must delete whats already up there.

leaf · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2008, 05:36 »

Quote from: timburton on April 28, 2008, 04:49

Why would any serious site accept something that they think deserves to have fun poked at it? And why would they insult a contributor like that? For that matter, I wonder why theyd want to show off bad images. All seems a bit tacky and amateurish to me.
(image seems fine...)

the worst images of the day are not accepted.

I believe it is there to try and help people learn what a good / bad stock image is, and probably for interest sake to drive traffic. If people find it helpful or not I dunno... I don't tend to pay much attention to the judge's decisions

travelstock · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2008, 05:41 »

Quote from: Contakt on April 28, 2008, 05:31

if there's one dope thats going to hasten the death of any stock site its that arrogunt wigged gobshite waving his gavel around like he knows what hes talking about. so incensed wuz i by some of his off the wall critiques i simply stopped uploading, which reminds me i must delete whats already up there.

Yeah.. I feel the same - probably even more telling is the "best photos" Stuff - while some of it isn't bad, there's nothing there that's particularly brilliant either.

I only have 16 files on there... thinking of pulling those also. So far no downloads!

sharpshot · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2008, 05:54 »

Some of the worst photos of the day have given me a laugh. Crestock spend lots on advertising, I have seen 2 page adverts in design magazines.

Sold 300 there so far but it is disappointing that most of them are for $0.25. If that doesn't change soon I will have to stop uploading.

sam100 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2008, 05:55 »

In the early days of Crestock i complained about the humiliation to the photogs with that worst image of the day.
They replied to me that the photog in question is asked if image may be portrayed as worst of the day.
Still, i think it is no good to do so... this has been one of the reasons I quit crestock in the early days already.

Patrick H.

Contakt · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2008, 06:36 »

Quote from: patrick1958 on April 28, 2008, 05:55

In the early days of Crestock i complained about the humiliation to the photogs with that worst image of the day.
They replied to me that the photog in question is asked if image may be portrayed as worst of the day.
Still, i think it is no good to do so... this has been one of the reasons I quit crestock in the early days already.

Patrick H.

Golden rule of biz never "EVER" humiliate your best ppl.

anonymous · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2008, 07:27 »

Quote from: Contakt on April 28, 2008, 06:36

Quote from: patrick1958 on April 28, 2008, 05:55
In the early days of Crestock i complained about the humiliation to the photogs with that worst image of the day.
They replied to me that the photog in question is asked if image may be portrayed as worst of the day.
Still, i think it is no good to do so... this has been one of the reasons I quit crestock in the early days already.

Patrick H.

Golden rule of biz never "EVER" humiliate your best ppl.

...or your worst...they may get better or be in a position down the road to "help" you. The ole Judge is definately a "bridge burner"...

digiology · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2008, 10:58 »

Lets hope this isn't your 15 minutes of fame

anonymous · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2008, 11:44 »

Quote from: digiology on April 28, 2008, 10:58

Lets hope this isn't your 15 minutes of fame

who's? Lior's or Judge Ross'?

sharply_done · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2008, 11:54 »

If it's any consolation, I don't think Judge Ross has too keen an eye for commercial imagery: Although I've been selected for 'Today's Best Image' (a rather unprecedented) ten times, for the most part the shots he's selected are not amongst my best sellers on Crestock or anywhere else.

epixx · « **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2008, 14:08 »

I've always thought that presenting the "worst photo of the day" the way they do, has been in very bad taste. On the other hand: what else can we expect from one of the "lowest selling stock agencies in the world"?

Great photo btw. Just goes to show that they don't have a clue what they're talking about.

Contakt · « **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2008, 14:44 »

to quote a former poster who was banned from this forum, i';d love to c things from his point of view but i don't think i could get my head that far up my ass

snurder · « **Reply #17 on:** April 28, 2008, 15:14 »

The photo posted really doen't do anything special for me, but that doesn't mean it's bad or has no use.

This Judge Ross thing is one of the reasons I stayed away from Crestock. Very childish tactic. If they did with more professional methods where contributors could actually learn, that would be one thing, but open mockery of those who help pay their bills is uncalled for. If they slam contributors, who knows what they're saying about their buyers.

Hey Crestock Josh, Are You Listening??

anonymous · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2008, 17:10 »

Quote from: Contakt on April 28, 2008, 14:44

to quote a former poster who was banned from this forum, i';d love to c things from his point of view but i don't think i could get my head that far up my ass

Lots of booze and lube

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2008, 17:20 »

Pretty poor business practice. And to echo others, if it sucked that much, how the heck did it get on the site? It just turned me off to uploading there.

BTW, Lior, It's NOT blurry. And from a marketing perspective, it is a very good shot, plenty of room for text or related photos. The black at top and bottom make it easy to turn into a vertical shot for page advert... Judge, hunh? Guess this is a perfect example of blind justice.

=tom

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #20 on:** April 28, 2008, 17:24 »

Quote from: Contakt on April 28, 2008, 05:31

if there's one dope thats going to hasten the death of any stock site its that arrogunt wigged gobshite waving his gavel around like he knows what hes talking about. so incensed wuz i by some of his off the wall critiques i simply stopped uploading, which reminds me i must delete whats already up there.

You sound familiar. Contakt = Editorial?

RT · « **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2008, 17:24 »

I deleted all my images from Crestock,

-Not enough sales
-Lousy commision
-Bad review process
-and a spokesperson who (as this thread proves) hasn't got a clue about photography.

IMO this isn't the way to conduct a successful business, especially one where there's so much competition.

The only good thing about Crestock is Josh, if you read this Josh get a job with iStock!

madelaide · « **Reply #22 on:** April 28, 2008, 19:32 »

I thought it had been said in the site that images would only be shown there with the photographer's consent? Not that I see a reason why someone would accept this, given the way this is presented.

Regards,
Adelaide

sharply_done · « **Reply #23 on:** April 29, 2008, 00:19 »

Perhaps they might consider changing 'Today's Worst Image' to 'Today's Best Rejection'. This way they could use part of the site to educate contributors as to why an image that is acceptable elsewhere is unacceptable at Crestock.

As it stands, I see no use for the 'Worst Image' other than to get an occasional chuckle, which isn't advancing anybody's career.

josh_crestock · « **Reply #24 on:** April 29, 2008, 01:11 »

Hola,

Just finished reading all the posts and not really sure where to start..

First, may i humbly suggest a more relaxed approach to Judge Ross. We don't mind a little bit of controversy, stirring up some dust every now and then, but we do not want this to deter anyone from contributing. This is not a reflection on the business as a whole, but is a very small part of the Crestock community that is currently being redeveloped and that, when released, i'd encourage all of you to be a part of.

Lior, our apologies because there seems to have been a small error made here. Without wanting to kill any of the myth or controversy of Judge Ross, images are chosen so that they will not offend. That is, from contributors who haven't been active in 2 years. The chances that the original contributor will see the images are slim. And, then, in this case, it was a 'borderline' rejection (don't know exactly as i can't find the full-size original) and the reasons for rejection aren't apparent at preview size. I believe this was a mistake, and this is not the intended result of Judge Ross' picks.

Quote from: sharply_done on April 29, 2008, 00:19

Perhaps they might consider changing 'Today's Worst Image' to 'Today's Best Rejection'. This way they could use part of the site to educate contributors as to why an image that is acceptable elsewhere is unacceptable at Crestock.

As it stands, I see no use for the 'Worst Image' other than to get an occasional chuckle, which isn't advancing anybody's career.

This is where I'd like Judge Ross to be heading. Like everyone's mum would have told them growing up, 'If you don't have anything helpful to say, don't say anything at all.' The education of contributors is something that i've been investing a lot of time into, and perhaps Judge Ross would be a good place to give out some good advice and useful articles on avoiding the issues he raises.

Thanks for the feedback,

Josh - Crestock.com

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