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dbvirago

« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2013, 18:30 »
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Sales at DT this month shaping up to be the worst month since early 2008. Other sites for me down slightly or average. Never had a slump like this at DT. Usually #2, this month will be #4 or 5


w7lwi

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« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2013, 21:09 »
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Actually this past week on DT was pretty good.  Couple of big credit sales (RF) and minimal subs.  Came within $2.00 of matching SS and there were EL sales on SS (none on DT).  But like so many others, it seems to come and go in waves.  This week will likely be dead.

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« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2013, 01:27 »
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After weeks of checking I have come to accept that my DT payment account will stay the same for all eternity  :(

Still the same. Even though DT started off very promising and then went flat it has never in all the time I have been with them stayed the same for weeks on end.

« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2013, 15:59 »
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July is a very slow for me on DT, even I've uploaded much more images :(

w7lwi

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« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2013, 17:53 »
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Just had a refund charge of $6.31, but it was more than offset by an $18+ P-EL  Pretty much a toss-up between $0.35 subs and real sales in the $4.00 to $6.00 range.

« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2013, 22:03 »
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Well ahead of FT (in $ if not DLS), more than double 123 but well behind SS (obviously).  It doesn't make sense to moan when a file with 25 dls sells for a 35c sub when we are happy to to take similar or less on other sites for files with hundreds of downloads.  The higher levels are still the ones that sell most often and I'm much happier with pricing based on performance instead of volumes derived simply from massive numbers of images.

What bothers me is that I made more money in November 2006 than I did in November 2012 at DT - their pricing model is working against them instead of for them.

And it's not about the price per sale alone (which is where DT ends up in the weeds) but the monthly total from your portfolio. It's OK to do 38 cent subs at SS (I don't like it but it's OK) because the volume is there. The sites that tried to ape SS forgot about the relationship between price and volume which left us with a few cheapo subs sales in place of the higher return credit sales. When roughly the same portfolio earns me 4 times more at SS than it does at DT, I have to think that DT's pricing is sufficiently annoying that it drives buyers away.

If I recall correctly we were making 50% of each sale back then, now we are making less, so maybe DT is making more, but we are making less. In fact every one of DTs moves that dropped our % that were supposed to help us ended up dropping my income there - it usually recovered in a year of uploading, but it is still frustrating.

I am actually doing ok there this month, on track to be only a little below average (which has been slipping lately too).  People mentioned other sites that aren't performing this month. My last Canstock sale was Jul 3rd and 123RF has been a total dog this month - on track to be less than 1/3 of my average month last year... Weren't they supposed to be doubling our sales or something?

Ron

« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2013, 03:43 »
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I agree with CanStockPhoto, only 1 sale in July, but 123 has doubled for me, still peanuts, but doubled.

Dropped DT over their similar policy last year.

Dan

« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2013, 09:53 »
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nothing  at  can  or  dt.  Bigstock  shows  promise  of  life.

cuppacoffee

« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2013, 15:19 »
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Dan, no disrespect but you have 9 images at DT and 10 sales. Sounds pretty good to me.

Ron

« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2013, 15:53 »
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Dan, no disrespect but you have 9 images at DT and 10 sales. Sounds pretty good to me.
20+ at CanStockPhoto with 2 sales.

You need at least a 1000 at CanStockPhoto to see some sort of regular significant sales.

« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2013, 16:16 »
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nothing  at  can  or  dt.  Bigstock  shows  promise  of  life.

You need to get 200 to 300 images online before you decide which agencies are capable of selling them. Right now your statistics are small sample size and not worthy for you to be drawing conclusions on. Give it time.

« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2013, 00:09 »
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My sales on DT this month exceeded my sales on SS, FT & 123.  SS dropped to 3rd place.

« Reply #62 on: July 29, 2013, 00:13 »
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My sales on DT this month exceeded my sales on SS, FT & 123.  SS dropped to 3rd place.

Interesting.  Nothing like my experience, though.  For me DT is 6th this month, behind SS, 123RF, iStock, Deposit and PhotoDune.

« Reply #63 on: July 29, 2013, 00:39 »
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My earnings at DT dropped since I've started deleting every image older than 4 years with no sales instead of giving them for free.
Obviously it is quite a concidence.

Dan

« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2013, 11:30 »
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quote cuppacoffee
Dan, no disrespect but you have 9 images at DT and 10 sales. Sounds pretty good to me.


yeah  but  no  sales  lately  amid  plenty  of  rejection.  They  even  rejected  my  best  seller  (over  60  sales).  So  it  could  be  etter

« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2013, 23:59 »
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Bye bye DT  :-*

« Reply #66 on: July 30, 2013, 19:11 »
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Revenue up 25% over last July, down 17% from June 2013, but that is typical for me in July...  DT still beating SS for me by a reasonable margin!  Can't say I really see any trends in sales on DT that indicate doom and gloom, at least for my portfolio.

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« Reply #67 on: July 30, 2013, 19:43 »
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About same amount of sales this month as my average, but revenue slightly down as it was a big month for subs. Luckily i got two P-EL's which helped bump it up a bit.

dbvirago

« Reply #68 on: July 31, 2013, 10:40 »
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Sales at DT this month shaping up to be the worst month since early 2008. Other sites for me down slightly or average. Never had a slump like this at DT. Usually #2, this month will be #4 or 5

I spoke too soon. Worst month since December 2007. Other sites above average to good. No BMEs, but a couple close.

lisafx

« Reply #69 on: July 31, 2013, 11:13 »
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It's been a dreadful month for me on pretty much every site.  Worst month I can remember in a number of years, on DT and elsewhere too.  DT is holding up much better than IS and FT, and even SS is down for me.   

« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2013, 15:21 »
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After having just enjoyed my best quarter,  July has been a truly naff month. As we say in London - after the Lord Mayor's show comes the s**t cart. Far too many subs has chopped my RPD in half. DT is a queer beast though and on balance is neck and neck with IS for second place in my earnings this year.

cuppacoffee

« Reply #71 on: August 01, 2013, 10:04 »
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This just announced (Aug 1st) -

As most of you noticed, we've seen an increased demand for subscription lately. Our monthly plans work well along with credits to push good content to a higher level and to produce better total revenue. The downside compared to credits is that they require more images and award much lower royalties.

As customers get more used with subscriptions, there is potential to enlarge this offer, many of them asking for more flexibility. We're therefore announcing two new type of plans that grant the ease of use of subscriptions, while awarding a better royalty to the contributors than the regular subs.

These plans are now available at $39 and $69, giving access to five or ten files. The files can be downloaded anytime throughout the next 30 days. The royalties awarded are $2.00 for non-exclusive contributors and $2.20 for exclusives. These values are computed based on our historical average for downloads generated by both credits and subscriptions.

They are launched only for a part of the customers for now, as we plan to monitor their behaviour and overall impact.

We'll be fine-tuning this so please offer your feedback or post any glitches that you might find. We hope you will notice the new plans have strong potential while generating better royalties. We expect many of the regular subscription customers to switch to these two plan since many have been requesting lower volumes.

« Reply #72 on: August 01, 2013, 10:35 »
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^^^ Interesting. Thanks for posting. The royalties for the 'new subs' would appear to be on par with my average RPD at DT over the last few months.

« Reply #73 on: August 01, 2013, 10:40 »
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This looks like good news but I'm trying to think what the catch is, as we don't get good news anymore, do we :)

Ron

« Reply #74 on: August 01, 2013, 10:58 »
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This looks like good news but I'm trying to think what the catch is, as we don't get good news anymore, do we :)
I was thinking the same.

I am still on the fence if I want to start to upload to DT. Is their similar policy still an issue?


 

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