https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834146/adobe-express-firefly-generative-ai-release-design-app

"The generative features in Adobe Express are neat when they actually work, but they�re not in the same league as other Firefly-powered features like Photoshop Generative Fill."

I spent a little time with Firefly beta a couple of days ago to see if it had improved since my last experiments and IMO it's just not usable yet.

This page still says (beta) for the generative AI features:

https://www.adobe.com/express/?clickref=1100lxHLAxSQ&mv=affiliate&mv2=pz&as_camptype=&as_channel=affiliate&as_source=partnerize&as_campaign=skimlinks_phg

https://www.techradar.com/computing/artificial-intelligence/adobe-express-adds-firefly-ai-to-its-free-plan-for-next-level-creativity

"We do want to warn you to not expect too much from this rendition of Firefly. Like a lot of other free image generators, the results can look rather nightmarish..."

https://www.redsharknews.com/adobe-express-with-firefly-moves-out-of-beta
https://petapixel.com/2023/08/16/new-adobe-express-is-available-now-and-built-for-everyone/
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/adobe-firefly-generative-ai-is-now-available-to-all-adobe-express-users
https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/08/16/adobe-express-with-ai-firefly-app-is-available-worldwide
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230816666128/en/All-New-Adobe-Express-With-Firefly-Brings-Generative-AI-to-Creators-Worldwide
https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/news/all-new-adobe-express-with-firefly-brings-generative-ai-to-creators-worldwide/article_eb6f740e-e550-5464-b83d-9500d0a3b0a0.html

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3704794/adobe-express-with-generative-ai-exits-beta-available-now.html

On copyright issues:

"One interesting note is that while Adobe has been working intensively with AI to augment its creative products, when it comes to generative AI the company was early to recognize the need to avoid copyright abuse. Already, we�ve seen instances in which assets created by these tools have abused the copyright held by creatives, and given the company�s position as a provider of creative solutions for creative users it was smart to think about how to avoid being in such a position.

This is why Firefly and the gen AI used in Express and its other products has been trained on unique data, rather than copyrighted assets. Given that inadvertent abuse of other people�s intellectual ideas has now been recognized as a big problem, it�s reassuring Adobe got to this early."

On Firefly:
"The generative AI features are also really promising, generating some great results, though I would advise against using it to create faces, hands, or groups of people � the tech finds it hard to create those convincingly."

Usable or not, contributors were told that when Firefly was out of beta there would be a compensation model for us - I haven't heard anything from Adobe Stock about compensation for data training

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on August 16, 2023, 10:32

Usable or not, contributors were told that when Firefly was out of beta there would be a compensation model for us - I haven't heard anything from Adobe Stock about compensation for data training

Yet people are still using it for commercial purposes. Nice to see that the contributors don't care.

I don't think the contributors don't care and I assume that the compensation will come when the AI elements go live in the release version of Photoshop CC - probably in fall with the CC 2024 version.

However, I also think that Adobe should start here soon with a communication regarding the compensation, because the contributors are getting impatient.

I still believe that something will come from Adobe here, but it's about time to present something concrete here.

Not quite in line with the topic:
On the other hand, there are much worse providers - for example WireStock has received dataset earnings from Shutter and Pond5 (Dec. 2022 & April/May 2023) and has simply not passed anything on to the contributors - when asked about this fact, WireStock support simply does not answer anymore...