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Started by MatHayward, August 19, 2023, 21:15

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wds

#25
August 23, 2023, 23:25
They may have to rename it the "AI-yai-yai" collection!  :)

Injustice for all

#26
August 24, 2023, 03:09
what a mess with these AIs!

I stay away for now,too much risk of copyright or accidentally running a prompt already done by someone else.

I'm sure content created by AI generative tools sell well,but today I had a nice walk in the nature under the summer sun with my tripod and my camera, interacting with animals,insects and plants near the waterfalls,I have been taking pictures since I was 14,I had my own darkroom,lupo enlarger,developing tank and other toys,and surely it won't be an AI to stop me.

I'll think about it in the future,but I'm starting to think about keeping this style,because in the end a customer who wants real things,seeing my portfolio,immediately understands that there are no AI contents.

maybe I'm wrong,because first come first served,but in the end I've always been that fish that swims upstream,and that will probably end up drowned!

sorry for the chatter! :D

cobalt

#27
August 24, 2023, 08:39
ai makes me enjoy my camera more. Full control over everything, not wasting time while testing prompts.

That being said, I am slowly reaching a level where I can use ai to try very different things. And creating material that is currently not available on agencies.

Maybe it will not sell, but I hope customers appreciate that I am really trying to do something different.

cascoly

#28
August 24, 2023, 19:28
Quote from: Injustice for all on August 24, 2023, 03:09... I've always been that fish that swims upstream,and that will probably end up drowned!
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most fish who swim upstream spawn, waste away & die - hope you're the exception
Steve Estvanik 
travel & photo blog https://cascoly-images.com

ottoc

#29
August 24, 2023, 20:09
Quote from: Her Ugliness on August 20, 2023, 13:19
Quote from: luminous on August 20, 2023, 11:44
I'm considering using AI-generated images as a reference for colors and composition, and then redrawing them using Adobe Illustrator with additional elements. Will upload it as Vector illustration. Do I still need to show that it is AI generated? Thanks

Someone asked Matt a the question "if the AI generated image is used as a sketch and heavily processed after, must we always write made with generative AI?" and the answer was yes.
Though, it's not like Adobe really has a way to know that you used an AI or even care, seeing as how many obvious AI images that are not labaled as AI are their database.....


Mat, We need a clear answer.

Injustice for all

#30
August 25, 2023, 00:39
Quote from: cascoly on August 24, 2023, 19:28
Quote from: Injustice for all on August 24, 2023, 03:09... I've always been that fish that swims upstream,and that will probably end up drowned!
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most fish who swim upstream spawn, waste away & die - hope you're the exception

therefore...a nice swim against the tide,then reproduction(I hope this part lasts for a while at least)..to then have the time to waste away in peace before dying....a good life I would say! :D

thank you! :D

Jo Ann Snover

#31
August 25, 2023, 01:55
More from the "how on earth can a reviewer miss these" department







And with the next two you get the three armed businessman as well as a logo...










etc., etc., etc.

DiscreetDuck

#32
August 25, 2023, 15:10 Last Edit: August 25, 2023, 15:40 by DiscreetDuck
Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on August 25, 2023, 01:55
More from the "how on earth can a reviewer miss these" department
I don't disagree with you.
Of course, Adobe is responsible for not controlling the monster that they have greatly welcomed.

But...
"how on earth can a contributor miss these" New Department

The infringement is -firstly- made by the person submitting these images. There are clear laws they must follow when submitting. Why does it seem we are going in a world where image creators don't inspect their "own" "work" anymore?

Adobe can react by refusing the images concerned during review, or, and here is the new thing, delete entire portfolio. I think they realize now that the uncontrolled flood of AI images can be dangerous for themselves too. Before, there was no risk for contributors who submitted mass AI images. Should we regret? Do you regret Jo Ann?

Jo Ann Snover

#33
August 25, 2023, 15:12
I came upon this it-should-never-have-passed-inspection doozy...



...so I did a few more searches for classic cars. There are a lot in the genAI collection where similar images in the "regular" collection are editorial use only. As with the other "oops" images, the contributor should have known better, but it is a total failure of the reviewing process to have so many of these items accepted:

Model T Ford

Cadillac. Some are very specific with year and model:



Ford Mustang



That portfolio is full of classic cars, many of which probably aren't OK (I'm not an expert in classic car IP), here and here

MatHayward

#34
August 25, 2023, 16:28
Quote from: ottoc on August 24, 2023, 20:09
Quote from: Her Ugliness on August 20, 2023, 13:19
Quote from: luminous on August 20, 2023, 11:44
I'm considering using AI-generated images as a reference for colors and composition, and then redrawing them using Adobe Illustrator with additional elements. Will upload it as Vector illustration. Do I still need to show that it is AI generated? Thanks

Someone asked Matt a the question "if the AI generated image is used as a sketch and heavily processed after, must we always write made with generative AI?" and the answer was yes.
Though, it's not like Adobe really has a way to know that you used an AI or even care, seeing as how many obvious AI images that are not labaled as AI are their database.....


Mat, We need a clear answer.

We do not accept generative AI vector images. I strongly advise against what you are suggesting. Using the tool as inspiration is one thing, auto-trace or something similar I would avoid at all cost.

Thanks for the question,

Mat Hayward

blvdone

#35
August 25, 2023, 17:12
It seems like more AI violation account closings coming on Adobe Stock.  Check your portfolio and delete images that may violate the AI term.

blvdone

#36
August 25, 2023, 17:13
Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on August 25, 2023, 15:12
I came upon this it-should-never-have-passed-inspection doozy...



...so I did a few more searches for classic cars. There are a lot in the genAI collection where similar images in the "regular" collection are editorial use only. As with the other "oops" images, the contributor should have known better, but it is a total failure of the reviewing process to have so many of these items accepted:

Model T Ford

Cadillac. Some are very specific with year and model:



Ford Mustang



That portfolio is full of classic cars, many of which probably aren't OK (I'm not an expert in classic car IP), here and here

Let's see if those account may get closed by Adobe Stock.  They shouldn't accepted those images with brand logos in the first place.

spike

#38
August 25, 2023, 23:03
It seems Adobe has a lot more cleanup to do. This thread shows it so well, and it's just what a couple of nice people from this board have found. I can only imagine how the rest of the assets look like :/

blvdone

#41
August 26, 2023, 13:43
https://stock.adobe.com/images/a-man-in-a-blue-suit-sitting-in-front-of-a-laptop/628328481?prev_url=detail

It's kinda ridiculous if Adobe block their entire account because reviewers failed to find trademark and accepted those photos.  It's their fault.  Just reject them.

https://stock.adobe.com/contributor/211205003/pham?load_type=author&prev_url=detail

cobalt

#48
August 26, 2023, 14:11
Quote from: Jens G on August 26, 2023, 13:57
Quote from: blvdone on August 26, 2023, 13:34
Found another Apple logo.

https://stock.adobe.com/images/a-young-dark-skinned-man-wearing-on-ear-headphones-and-watching-or-reading-some-content-on-a-laptop-indoors-modern-sleek-interior/631181138?prev_url=detail

https://stock.adobe.com/contributor/208063215/romana?load_type=author&prev_url=detail

Adobe should pay me doing their job.  lol

I looked at the contributor portfolio, and wonder what the logo in lower right corner of this image is?
https://stock.adobe.com/images/a-mature-grown-up-male-adult-with-silver-hair-and-beard-wearing-on-ear-headphones-and-watching-or-reading-some-content-on-a-laptop-indoors-modern-sleek-interior/631181404?prev_url=detail

Ai software sometimes created logos and trademarks because apparently they see this as a design element of images.

I get this a lot if I do oil paintings or watercolor, apparentely a signature or logo is for the ai a typical element of a painting.

This could of course be a real watermark from a company image photo, but I would think it is an added design element of the ai.

Nevertheless, the producer should have removed it and the Adobe reviewer should not have accepted it.

blvdone

#49
August 26, 2023, 14:14
As I was looking through all those AI generated stock photos, I realized 70-80% of stock photos as we know can be generated by AI.  So, why bother to shoot stock photos anymore unless it's editorial news photos, I thought.  It's over for real camera shooters.  AI generators don't have to hire models, travel to locations and setup lightings.  Can't compete against those.
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