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« Reply #100 on: June 09, 2021, 09:31 »
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Does anybody know how big this collection is going to be? I'm offered to nominate a huge number of pictures, about 20% of my portfolio. If everybody accepts the offer in full capacity, free section will be so big, noone will need to buy anything anymore. That's what I'm worried about, but maybe I'm wrong and I hope Adobe knows whats it doing.

The free collection will be limited in size. It is important to note that it's highly unlikely we will accept every photo you nominate. We have been and continue to closely monitor the free collection to ensure there is no cannibalization of the paid collection. The size of the collection will offer breadth but not depth. In other words, we will have images available for a vast range of search queries, but not so many results that more than the basic needs are satisfied. The free collection is a tool used to draw new customers in so they can see how vast the paid collection is for a deeper selection of relevant stock content. This has worked well the past year which is what has prompted this current refresh.

thanks for all the questions everyone,

Mat Hayward




« Reply #102 on: June 09, 2021, 10:38 »
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Does anybody know how big this collection is going to be? I'm offered to nominate a huge number of pictures, about 20% of my portfolio. If everybody accepts the offer in full capacity, free section will be so big, noone will need to buy anything anymore. That's what I'm worried about, but maybe I'm wrong and I hope Adobe knows whats it doing.

I think your worries are justified. Adobe sure knows what they are doing, but do we, contributors, know what we are doing?

At first sight, the 5$ fixed fee seems to be a fair price for images that are not considered as regular sellers. They try to get as many on board as they can with first nominating images, and afterwards making a selection. And I have to admit, it looks appealing. Having 1000 images nominated qualifies for a potential 5000$ payout. That's a lot of money in one go. But beware! Probably only a fraction of the nominated content (selected by AI I guess) will make it to the collection, resulting in payouts. Adobe can cherry-pick the content they want, and in the end, like you said, they will still have a big collection of high quality images covering a very broad amount of topics which they can offer for free. That collection will compete with the paid section at Adobe AND at other agencies, and I cannot imagine this will have no impact on our sales. In a lot of cases buyers are not looking for one specific image, but for just "an image" that supports their content or helps them telling their story.

It's a pretty smart move by Adobe. When I look at my nominated content, the vast majority are decent enough to very good images and all of them sold before, but not a lot. Now, the trick is: these images might not have done very well on Adobe, but some of them are doing well at other agencies. A matter of algorithm luck I guess: got the image up at the right time at the right place. They didn't underperform at Adobe because of a quality or usability issue, but because of the way the algorithm ranks them combined with strong competition.

I'm not saying it's a bad deal, but I would advice everyone to think it over, and manually nominate the images you want to have included in the free collection. Big collections with high quality content might become the future of microstock, and we're not gonna stop it, but make sure you protect your best-sellers and high quality content the best you can for as long as you can. Keep control of the content you care about. Firn already gave a very good example of what free images (unintended in his case) can do, so be warned.

Upfront royalty payments/Instant Pay programs are fine, and can be a nice addition to your income stream, but let's keep them what they are meant for: as honeypots (with mediocre content) for paid content (with high-quality content).

« Last Edit: June 09, 2021, 10:41 by Roscoe »

« Reply #103 on: June 09, 2021, 11:39 »
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my much worst problem with adobestock is lack of sales last few weeks after region change (even tho I shoot isolated people not specific to any region)


I agree

This is my Adobe Stock RPD in 2021.

Jan 0,90$
Feb 1,05$
Mar 0,94$
Apr 0,85$
May 0,76$
Jun 0,72$ (first 7 days)

And earnings go from >600$/month to 300/400$/month, down 45% ... Why ?

SS RPD

May 0,89$
Jun 0,88$ (first 7 days) ...

You mean, you guys are making sales?

« Reply #104 on: June 09, 2021, 13:30 »
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Can I give Adobe an upfront cloud payment of $5 to test drive Premiere Pro for 12 months in hopes it turns me into a paying customer? Asking for a friend.

« Reply #105 on: June 09, 2021, 13:44 »
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... Adobe can cherry-pick the content they want, and in the end, like you said, they will still have a big collection of high quality images covering a very broad amount of topics which they can offer for free. That collection will compete with the paid section at Adobe AND at other agencies, and I cannot imagine this will have no impact on our sales. .....

those 'competing' images will be there whether or not you nominate your own images.
 
so the choice is whether you take a12 mo payout on images that have not sold well on Adobe

« Reply #106 on: June 09, 2021, 13:55 »
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less than 10% of my portfolio was listed as nominate-able but many thousands more have < 4 downloads - is there a filter to limiot the # nominated?

« Reply #107 on: June 09, 2021, 13:58 »
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less than 10% of my portfolio was listed as nominate-able but many thousands more have < 4 downloads - is there a filter to limiot the # nominated?

Yes, you'll find the filter to view only nominated files just under the banner on the right side of the dashboard section. It's between the "sort by" filter and the image number search.

-Mat

wds

« Reply #108 on: June 09, 2021, 15:21 »
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Is there anyway to "group check" the boxes on eligible files in the portfolio? Very tedious to do it one by one.

« Reply #109 on: June 09, 2021, 16:18 »
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less than 10% of my portfolio was listed as nominate-able but many thousands more have < 4 downloads - is there a filter to limiot the # nominated?

Yes, you'll find the filter to view only nominated files just under the banner on the right side of the dashboard section. It's between the "sort by" filter and the image number search.

-Mat

sorry, i meant does Adobe apply a filter?  i accepted all the files i could nominate - but have thousands more that should be eligbible

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« Reply #110 on: June 09, 2021, 17:49 »
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I don't see any banner or way to nominate files on my dashboard. Am I missing something? Can anyone screencap what it looks like?

« Reply #111 on: June 09, 2021, 19:07 »
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I don't see any banner or way to nominate files on my dashboard. Am I missing something? Can anyone screencap what it looks like?

See this snippet from my Dashboard - if you don't have any photos, perhaps that's why you don't see this?

BK

« Reply #112 on: June 09, 2021, 20:26 »
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Mat, I think this is a fair program to contributors. I appreciate Adobes efforts to consider the needs of contributors. Also really appreciate your active communication in this forum. I think You and Adobe are the gold standard of stock agencies now from the contributors perspective. Thanks!

« Reply #113 on: June 10, 2021, 00:57 »
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those 'competing' images will be there whether or not you nominate your own images.
 
so the choice is whether you take a12 mo payout on images that have not sold well on Adobe

Nope. I can guarantee you that with many of the images Adobe nominated from my port there is no free alternative available from someone else.

 I photograph, among other things, my dogs in mostly custom-made, one-of-a-kind costumes and these photos are probably what earn me the most money on other agencies. You will, just to name one random example - not find a photo other than mine of a dog in a Japanese winking cat costume on any microstock agency. And this is just one example. I have a few other fields that do well, but not many other people have covered (that is, after all, one of the tricks of success in microstock).

So, no, my choice is not take a payout for images that have not sold well on Adobe, but on other agencies. I would be shooting myself in the foot if I offered unique bestsellers on other sites for free on Adobe for $5, just because Adobe failed to promote these images to their customers.

« Reply #114 on: June 10, 2021, 01:52 »
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Mat hello, thank you for your concern.
I want to ask you two things, I think you're tired of questions, but I also know you're a gentleman enough to answer. sorry about my bad English.

1- 2900 + candidate photo suggestions have arrived. however, I have 11,000+ files, most of them undiscovered, do you mind if I nominate them?


2-Turkish tagged photos are very few sales, search is automatically translated in Turkish, is there anything I can do for this.

« Reply #115 on: June 10, 2021, 02:11 »
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Hi Matt,

I clicked a few nominate sliders but there doesn't seem to be an accept or next button. Am I missing something?
Thanks

Yes, you need to click to agree to the contributor addendum that should have popped up immediately when you nominated your first photo. You only need to do that one time.

-Mat


Thanks Matt. So I guess the nominated images have been sent? I'm not sure as the full list of my nominated images are still showing the selected blue sliders.

« Reply #116 on: June 10, 2021, 04:52 »
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I'm not seeing this banner at all on two different browsers.  I have photos in my portfolio but probably not enough to be included.

« Reply #117 on: June 10, 2021, 04:57 »
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This is very good offer. This brings the smile on the face and also mind brings the memories of very friendly Fotolia. Happy to see that legacy continues. Fotolia was friendly, the adobe stock is the friendlier agency.

« Reply #118 on: June 10, 2021, 06:09 »
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This is an interesting offer, hope it brings success.

wds

« Reply #119 on: June 10, 2021, 10:46 »
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Is there anyway to "group check" the boxes on eligible files in the portfolio? Very tedious to do it one by one.

Don't mean to complain here, but I'll  ask again. Outside of selecting everything, is there any quick way to select groups of files or is it only accomplished by checking one box at a time....which is very time consuming!   It would be very helpful, if at least you could select one "page" of files at a time.

Thanks

« Reply #120 on: June 10, 2021, 10:50 »
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Is there anyway to "group check" the boxes on eligible files in the portfolio? Very tedious to do it one by one.

You can nominate all eligible files in one fell swoop using the toggle in the banner itself. If you are wanting to nominate only a select number of photos, you will need to filter to show only eligible files and then select the files you want to nominate one at a time.

-Mat

« Reply #121 on: June 10, 2021, 10:51 »
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less than 10% of my portfolio was listed as nominate-able but many thousands more have < 4 downloads - is there a filter to limiot the # nominated?

Yes, you'll find the filter to view only nominated files just under the banner on the right side of the dashboard section. It's between the "sort by" filter and the image number search.

-Mat

You cannot nominate images that are not already marked as eligible. We appreciate your desire to do so but your request cannot be accomodated at this time.

Thanks,

Mat

sorry, i meant does Adobe apply a filter?  i accepted all the files i could nominate - but have thousands more that should be eligbible

« Reply #122 on: June 10, 2021, 10:53 »
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Hi Matt,

I clicked a few nominate sliders but there doesn't seem to be an accept or next button. Am I missing something?
Thanks

Yes, you need to click to agree to the contributor addendum that should have popped up immediately when you nominated your first photo. You only need to do that one time.

-Mat


Thanks Matt. So I guess the nominated images have been sent? I'm not sure as the full list of my nominated images are still showing the selected blue sliders.

You will be able to access the nomination option to either opt-in or opt-out files until June 23. After that, the banner will go away and your decision will be locked in.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #123 on: June 10, 2021, 10:54 »
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I don't see any banner or way to nominate files on my dashboard. Am I missing something? Can anyone screencap what it looks like?

This is likely an indication you do not have any photos eligible for nomination. Please write to support using the contact-us link found at the bottom of the Adobe Stock contributor portal and we can confirm if this is the case or not for you.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

wds

« Reply #124 on: June 10, 2021, 11:13 »
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Is there anyway to "group check" the boxes on eligible files in the portfolio? Very tedious to do it one by one.

You can nominate all eligible files in one fell swoop using the toggle in the banner itself. If you are wanting to nominate only a select number of photos, you will need to filter to show only eligible files and then select the files you want to nominate one at a time.

-Mat

Not the answer I wanted, but Thanks!


 

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