Not a single illustration was reviewed for 16 days.
Adobe definitely prioritize Ai content over all other.

20 days , still not a single illustration reviewed... 

just get started on your holiday content for 2026

Over two months and still waiting on non-Editorial photo

As annoying as it is nothing is going to change, so constantly moaning and whining is not going to help. Does it really make or break the bank if you wait for a few months to have an edit?

Quote from: f8 on August 06, 2024, 19:48
As annoying as it is nothing is going to change, so constantly moaning and whining is not going to help. Does it really make or break the bank if you wait for a few months to have an edit?

No, but this is discussion forum and it is good to see perceptions people have and exchange information.   Adobe Review Time for RF images is very peculiar with total lack of information why this is happening.

Quote from: zeljkok on August 06, 2024, 20:48
No, but this is discussion forum and it is good to see perceptions people have and exchange information.   Adobe Review Time for RF images is very peculiar with total lack of information why this is happening.

Well put!

May I ask what does RF images stand for?

Quote from: f8 on August 06, 2024, 19:48
As annoying as it is nothing is going to change, so constantly moaning and whining is not going to help. Does it really make or break the bank if you wait for a few months to have an edit?

Well, it's somewhat demotivating. More importantly, what if an image gets rejected and you resubmit? Then you are pushing 1/3 to 1/2 a year to get it accepted.
It also doesn't help if the rejection "reason" is that it didn't meet standards with no specifics. Two months and they can't take the time to be more specific about what
technical issue the reviewer perceived?

I upload both contents, both images and video, I have queued up 190 images to review for more than a month now, but the video is reviewed quickly, I stopped uploading images until they are reviewed and I am only uploading videos

Quote from: DanielVisuals on August 06, 2024, 20:52

Quote from: zeljkok on August 06, 2024, 20:48
No, but this is discussion forum and it is good to see perceptions people have and exchange information.   Adobe Review Time for RF images is very peculiar with total lack of information why this is happening.

Well put!

May I ask what does RF images stand for?

Royalty Free.    Non-editorial and non-AI generated

I have strong feeling Adobe doesn't want regular photos anymore, unless they are editorial.  So they like out of pool of 10 reviewers, allocated 5 to AI, 4 to editorial and 1 to RF.  All for purpose of Firefly promotion, as company belief is that "art photographers" are thing of the past, soon to be extinct.  If true, it is quite sad.    Canon, Nikon etc reaction would be quite interesting.

Quote from: zeljkok on August 07, 2024, 01:51

Quote from: DanielVisuals on August 06, 2024, 20:52

Quote from: zeljkok on August 06, 2024, 20:48
No, but this is discussion forum and it is good to see perceptions people have and exchange information.   Adobe Review Time for RF images is very peculiar with total lack of information why this is happening.

Well put!

May I ask what does RF images stand for?

Royalty Free.    Non-editorial and non-AI generated

I have strong feeling Adobe doesn't want regular photos anymore, unless they are editorial.  So they like out of pool of 10 reviewers, allocated 5 to AI, 4 to editorial and 1 to RF.  All for purpose of Firefly promotion, as company belief is that "art photographers" are thing of the past, soon to be extinct.  If true, it is quite sad.    Canon, Nikon etc reaction would be quite interesting.

you may be right but that would be a ridiculous position from my perspective.  i know ai images are having a moment and probably will always have a use for certain type of images but i don't expect photography to go anywhere.  a few years ago silly obviously staged smiling face images were the norm but once that market got saturated every agency started begging for "authentic" images of "real" people.  there wasn't enough diversity now every agency brief asks for diversity.  i truly believe ai will never fulfill every need or even most needs of most buyers. time will tell i guess.

Quote from: yuriy on August 07, 2024, 02:00


you may be right but that would be a ridiculous position from my perspective.  i know ai images are having a moment and probably will always have a use for certain type of images but i don't expect photography to go anywhere.  a few years ago silly obviously staged smiling face images were the norm but once that market got saturated every agency started begging for "authentic" images of "real" people.  there wasn't enough diversity now every agency brief asks for diversity.  i truly believe ai will never fulfill every need or even most needs of most buyers. time will tell i guess.

I totally agree with you.  I dislike AI, not just in photography, but as overall direction everything is taking.  But question is what business guys that define strategy think.  It would not be surprising to learn Firefly is heavy bet & Adobe is trying to establish overall market dominance.   

Quote from: zeljkok on August 07, 2024, 02:47

Quote from: yuriy on August 07, 2024, 02:00


you may be right but that would be a ridiculous position from my perspective.  i know ai images are having a moment and probably will always have a use for certain type of images but i don't expect photography to go anywhere.  a few years ago silly obviously staged smiling face images were the norm but once that market got saturated every agency started begging for "authentic" images of "real" people.  there wasn't enough diversity now every agency brief asks for diversity.  i truly believe ai will never fulfill every need or even most needs of most buyers. time will tell i guess.

I totally agree with you.  I dislike AI, not just in photography, but as overall direction everything is taking.  But question is what business guys that define strategy think.  It would not be surprising to learn Firefly is heavy bet & Adobe is trying to establish overall market dominance.

that's true but even so they'll still need more photos to improve firefly.  i know they have like a billion images already and i'm sure it's pretty stellar at clouds and flowers the way it is but they will need more to stay current.  my guess is the stock business is worth a little something besides just data for ai models so hopefully the review process will return to some for of respectability. 

as things stand nothing commercial has been reviewed since may 20th and it's been this way for about a month.  on the bright side if you have a decent sized portfolio your older photos are selling better because the competition can't get any new images in to compete.  i've been doing a lot of work lately, i'm going to try to get my "in review" section to be larger than my entire portfolio, wish me luck.

29 days of prioritizing AI, still not a single illustration reviewed... 

Into third week of wait now,  longest by margin in my Adobe history.  10 RF images, no AI.

This is very, very interesting.  New content is not welcome because libraries are too saturated already so they simply ignore new submissions?  Pipe should be closed then;  I can only imagine size of existing backlog.

Quote from: Madede on August 14, 2024, 05:55
29 days of prioritizing AI, still not a single illustration reviewed... 

I think I'm going to set the record, unless some else has already beat this. "Submitted 5 months ago" plus I wrote to Mat, who forwarded the request to the review team, last week. It was a current event photo. "The Iowa DOT has temporarily closed the older iron truss, Black Hawk Bridge spanning the Mississippi River, joining Lansing IA, to Crawford County, WI. Wide panorama view from the North West in Iowa." by now the bridge could be open again.

Monday I photographed the Night Sky, the aurora from the CME that hit the Earth. Uploaded to Adobe. Lets say it's reviewed in a month. How much will anyone be interested in a month old current event image.  And we talk about sales and income dropping. Back to the good old days when two weeks for a review was not uncommon on many sites.



Just for fun, here's the aurora, during my shooting Perseids. Lucky me and I had a good time.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on August 14, 2024, 19:48

Quote from: Madede on August 14, 2024, 05:55
29 days of prioritizing AI, still not a single illustration reviewed... 

I think I'm going to set the record, unless some else has already beat this. "Submitted 5 months ago" plus I wrote to Mat, who forwarded the request to the review team, last week. It was a current event photo. "The Iowa DOT has temporarily closed the older iron truss, Black Hawk Bridge spanning the Mississippi River, joining Lansing IA, to Crawford County, WI. Wide panorama view from the North West in Iowa." by now the bridge could be open again.

Monday I photographed the Night Sky, the aurora from the CME that hit the Earth. Uploaded to Adobe. Lets say it's reviewed in a month. How much will anyone be interested in a month old current event image.  And we talk about sales and income dropping. Back to the good old days when two weeks for a review was not uncommon on many sites.



Just for fun, here's the aurora, during my shooting Perseids. Lucky me and I had a good time.

I am in the same boat, 5 months waiting to be reviewed . Can't wait to see it 12 months

Quote from: Faustvasea on August 14, 2024, 19:54

Quote from: Uncle Pete on August 14, 2024, 19:48

Quote from: Madede on August 14, 2024, 05:55
29 days of prioritizing AI, still not a single illustration reviewed... 

I think I'm going to set the record, unless some else has already beat this. "Submitted 5 months ago" plus I wrote to Mat, who forwarded the request to the review team, last week. It was a current event photo. "The Iowa DOT has temporarily closed the older iron truss, Black Hawk Bridge spanning the Mississippi River, joining Lansing IA, to Crawford County, WI. Wide panorama view from the North West in Iowa." by now the bridge could be open again.

Monday I photographed the Night Sky, the aurora from the CME that hit the Earth. Uploaded to Adobe. Lets say it's reviewed in a month. How much will anyone be interested in a month old current event image.  And we talk about sales and income dropping. Back to the good old days when two weeks for a review was not uncommon on many sites.



Just for fun, here's the aurora, during my shooting Perseids. Lucky me and I had a good time.

I am in the same boat, 5 months waiting to be reviewed . Can't wait to see it 12 months

And example of a race to the bottom as slow as possible and see who gets their last? 

Quote from: zeljkok on August 07, 2024, 01:51

Quote from: DanielVisuals on August 06, 2024, 20:52...
May I ask what does RF images stand for?

Royalty Free.    Non-editorial and non-AI generated

....

AI gen are definitely RF & sold as such on any agency that accepts AI

what's your source for it not being RF? other than your stated dislike for AI?

I've got files submitted a month ago still waiting to be reviewed. Yet Shutterstock only taking 24 hours to review. Maybe Adobe need to splash out on more reviewers? 

Quote from: stocky on August 14, 2024, 21:33
I've got files submitted a month ago still waiting to be reviewed. Yet Shutterstock only taking 24 hours to review. Maybe Adobe need to splash out on more reviewers? 

Maybe Adobe need to STOP prioritizing Ai content ?

Or at least add other content moderation to moderators "team" daily target ?

Considering that for more than month nothing but Ai illustrations and " photos" were reviewed ?

Quote from: Uncle Pete on August 14, 2024, 19:48

I think I'm going to set the record, unless some else has already beat this. "Submitted 5 months ago" plus I wrote to Mat, who forwarded the request to the review team, last week. It was a current event photo. "The Iowa DOT has temporarily closed the older iron truss, Black Hawk Bridge spanning the Mississippi River, joining Lansing IA, to Crawford County, WI. Wide panorama view from the North West in Iowa." by now the bridge could be open again.

Monday I photographed the Night Sky, the aurora from the CME that hit the Earth. Uploaded to Adobe. Lets say it's reviewed in a month. How much will anyone be interested in a month old current event image.  And we talk about sales and income dropping. Back to the good old days when two weeks for a review was not uncommon on many sites.



Just for fun, here's the aurora, during my shooting Perseids. Lucky me and I had a good time.

Lovely Aurora

Re review time:  5 months is outrageous.  I honestly believe they simply don't want non-AI, non-editorial content.  If you remember at the beginning it was "no flowers, unless it's exceptional".  Then fairly high QA standards (higher than Alamy).   There was probably sincere desire to have high-end content (as it should be).  But floods still kept coming, and they couldn't or didn't want to cope.  So they simply figured "Let them keep uploading, disk space is cheap - we'll ignore it". 

Eventually someone will clear the backlog and reject everything for "Quality Reasons".  End of story

Adobe need to update their 8 week review period as they have failed to achieve this incredible long time frame. I have over 300 images awaiting review now with the longest being 10 week wait. Things improved early 2024 but now have got worse than ever before. If they want to take forever to review images Adobe need to be honest and increase their stated 8 weeks and accept their embarrasment.

Quote from: Shuttershock on August 15, 2024, 12:01
Adobe need to update their 8 week review period as they have failed to achieve this incredible long time frame. I have over 300 images awaiting review now with the longest being 10 week wait. Things improved early 2024 but now have got worse than ever before. If they want to take forever to review images Adobe need to be honest and increase their stated 8 weeks and accept their embarrasment.

If you are a representative of Shutterstock, I would like to ask you - how much longer will Shutterstock mock its own site? What did you dislike about the old design? Or is the redesign a way to embezzle corporate money?

Quote from: erik trikowich on August 15, 2024, 13:14

Quote from: Shuttershock on August 15, 2024, 12:01
Adobe need to update their 8 week review period as they have failed to achieve this incredible long time frame. I have over 300 images awaiting review now with the longest being 10 week wait. Things improved early 2024 but now have got worse than ever before. If they want to take forever to review images Adobe need to be honest and increase their stated 8 weeks and accept their embarrasment.

If you are a representative of Shutterstock, I would like to ask you - how much longer will Shutterstock mock its own site? What did you dislike about the old design? Or is the redesign a way to embezzle corporate money?

We thought the old design was too easy to navigate for contributors and wanted a design to make it harder and remove some options. We thought this was logical and meets our quest pee off contributors.