Author Topic: Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails? (Read 13037 times)

dp_dr · « **on:** March 05, 2017, 16:15 »

I noticed that the thumbnails (on contributors' portfolio page) do not bear anymore the Fotolia's watermark. They have the large side ~ 450px and are indexed by Google Images so they may be used by anyone without paying a penny

Is this a technical issue or a permanent decision from Fotolia?

See as exemple (also attached):
https://eu.fotolia.com/p/204629611 (prinscreen attached)

TG1112 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2017, 17:03 »

I don´t like it.

dpimborough · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2017, 18:28 »

No watermarks on the buyers site either

just downloaded one of my images through the old right click save method and got 359x240 53kb image.

Good enough to use on a blog page

angelawaye · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2017, 20:38 »

They removed them a LONG time ago. Yup - good enough for a blog image.

Minsc · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2017, 23:32 »

If they see a decline in sales, they will add back the watermarks.

Artist · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2017, 23:52 »

This is unprofessional, I don't like it.

dp_dr · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2017, 05:09 »

I've filed a complaint with Fotolia's Support and I strongly encourage you to do so, because our images are vulnarable to copyright infringment.

Chichikov · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2017, 06:21 »

Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?

I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.

And
~~Shutterstock has not~~
Adobe stock has not
Dreamstime has not
iStock/Getty has not (and their "thumbnails are twice bigger that the one of the other sites)
Envato has not
CanStock Photo has not
Depositphotos has not
Bigstock has not
123RF has not
Zoonar has not
GL Stock Images has not
Alamy has not
Mostphotos has not
etc.

So, where is the problem?

Dodie · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2017, 06:59 »

That could be an explanation for my miserable March. 5 downloads for the entire month less than one day's earnings before. That has never happened before, not even when I first started, years ago.
What a pity, FT was my favorite and number one agency.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2017, 10:22 »

Although it's a shame agencies are so reckless with our images when it comes to watermarking thumbnails, it's considered normal nowadays. FT are not the only one.

dp_dr · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2017, 12:57 »

Quote from: Chichikov on March 06, 2017, 06:21

Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?

I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.

.....

So, where is the problem?

You are wrong! Here is an older thumbnail from Fotolia! It bears the watermark and the id no.

lima · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2017, 13:13 »

I just download the same image without a watermark and don´t pay anything.... fotolia please protect our portfolio, put again watermarks!!!!

Quote from: dp_dr on March 06, 2017, 12:57

Quote from: Chichikov on March 06, 2017, 06:21
Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?

I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.

.....

So, where is the problem?

You are wrong! Here is an older thumbnail from Fotolia! It bears the watermark and the id no.

Chichikov · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2017, 13:48 »

Quote from: dp_dr on March 06, 2017, 12:57

Quote from: Chichikov on March 06, 2017, 06:21
Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?

I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.

.....

So, where is the problem?

You are wrong! Here is an older thumbnail from Fotolia! It bears the watermark and the id no.

"I don't remember" means "I don't remember", nothing more.
I have not written that there was not, I have written that "I don't remember"
What word don't you understand in "I don't remember"?
How can be wrong somebody not remembering something?

dp_dr · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2017, 12:04 »

Reply from Fotolia

Quote

Hi there,

The preview thumbnails contain no watermark because the resolution is not high enough for those images to be usable in full/definitive projects. Clients usually work with low res. copies of the file and purchase the high resolution copy when satisfied with the final result.

Kind Regards,

Fotolia Europe
+44 (0) 80 0917 0886 (English only)

Dumc · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2017, 13:41 »

I still see watermark. I also downloaded "comp image" and it has watermark.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2017, 16:31 »

Quote from: dp_dr on March 07, 2017, 12:04

Reply from Fotolia
Quote
Hi there,

The preview thumbnails contain no watermark because the resolution is not high enough for those images to be usable in full/definitive projects. Clients usually work with low res. copies of the file and purchase the high resolution copy when satisfied with the final result.

Kind Regards,

Fotolia Europe
+44 (0) 80 0917 0886 (English only)

Wow, that's pretty ignorant. I can think of about 1,000 common uses for images that size. Every single blog for example.

I use images smaller than that for promoting other things I sell.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2017, 16:34 »

Quote from: Dumc on March 07, 2017, 13:41

I still see watermark. I also downloaded "comp image" and it has watermark.

They don't have watermarks until you do a mouse-over. It's very easy to just do a screen grab of the previews without the watermarks.

dp_dr · « **Reply #17 on:** March 08, 2017, 01:30 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on March 07, 2017, 16:31

Wow, that's pretty ignorant. I can think of about 1,000 common uses for images that size. Every single blog for example.

I use images smaller than that for promoting other things I sell.

I definitely agree with you. There are tons of websites that uses thumnails, for instance in rss feeds, in order to gain traffic and do not have a larger image in the main article!

angelawaye · « **Reply #18 on:** March 08, 2017, 16:04 »

Web Designers can EASILY use it for a banner (gif) too. Nothing we can do about it though.

Chichikov · « **Reply #19 on:** March 09, 2017, 02:11 »

Quote from: angelawaye on March 08, 2017, 16:04

Web Designers can EASILY use it for a banner (gif) too. Nothing we can do about it though.

If there is a watermark, designers can easily remove it with Photoshop if they want…

dp_dr · « **Reply #20 on:** March 09, 2017, 02:54 »

Quote from: Chichikov on March 09, 2017, 02:11

If there is a watermark, designers can easily remove it with Photoshop if they want…

This can be proven and designers may not argue anymore that it was an innocent infringment.

Chichikov · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2017, 03:38 »

Quote from: dp_dr on March 09, 2017, 02:54

Quote from: Chichikov on March 09, 2017, 02:11
If there is a watermark, designers can easily remove it with Photoshop if they want…

This can be proven and designers may not argue anymore that it was an innocent infringment.

Yes, it is right.

But as on most of the sites (see my list above) there is no watermark on the thumbnails you will also have to prove from which site the image comes… (Bonne chance ! …)
I don't negate that it could be a problem, but it is not new and it is not only Fotolia.

I don't understand why your "attack" is so specific to Fotolia…

dp_dr · « **Reply #22 on:** March 09, 2017, 03:51 »

Quote from: Chichikov on March 09, 2017, 03:38

I don't understand why your "attack" is so specific to Fotolia…

In my case, all my images without watermark on Google Images come from Fotolia...

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2017, 04:32 »

Quote from: Chichikov on March 09, 2017, 03:38

I don't understand why your "attack" is so specific to Fotolia…

Because it's not like that on Shutterstock.

ravens · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2017, 16:18 »

This IS the problem.

Quote from: Chichikov on March 06, 2017, 06:21

Fotolia removed the watermark on thumbnails?

I don't remember any watermark on the thumbnails.

And
~~Shutterstock has not~~
Adobe stock has not
Dreamstime has not
iStock/Getty has not (and their "thumbnails are twice bigger that the one of the other sites)
Envato has not
CanStock Photo has not
Depositphotos has not
Bigstock has not
123RF has not
Zoonar has not
GL Stock Images has not
Alamy has not
Mostphotos has not
etc.

So, where is the problem?

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