Author Topic: Fotolia Lack of Trust (Read 13753 times)

Magnum · « **Reply #25 on:** May 06, 2009, 14:10 »

It is what it is. Try selling your pictures by your own and see how fun that is

cthoman · « **Reply #26 on:** May 06, 2009, 15:28 »

While I don't think Fotolia is cooking the books, I definitely don't have a lot of trust in them. The vector price slashing really killed all the trust. I haven't uploaded a file since.

So, say what you want and vent on!

JC-SL · « **Reply #27 on:** May 06, 2009, 15:52 »

ProjectPlus... " Does this make me unprofessional to discuss this issue on a public forum?" It certainly does.
Being upset about pricing/uploading/commissions etc is one thing, but to publicly accuse a corporation of fraud is downright criminal. If your will is so strong, put your money where your mouth is and ask (and pay for) an audit. Most (not all) have policies which allow contributors to pay for an audit and should there be discrepancies of more then 10%, the agency will pay for the audit. ( plus backpay/interest etc.) Enquire about the policies FT has.. you might be surprised. After the audit, come back and let us know how you went.

Trust has always been in a large part of the photo library/agency industry. Photographer have to trust the agency and the client, the agency has to trust the client and the photographer and the client has to trust the agency and the photographer. A bit general... but you get the hint.

Nothing hurts more than to bust your balls for people and to have just one person say the wrong thing and undue years of good work for no reason. Just because someone needed to vent.

Even better.. setup and run your own agency. Chicken.

JC

peep · « **Reply #28 on:** May 06, 2009, 16:40 »

Quote from: cidepix on May 06, 2009, 10:48

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I am not saying we should accuse fotolia of anything because it is wrong, but they always tend to do things that upset contributors..

I must agree - they DO things to upset contributors. And so does DT.
FT: they keep changing their conditions - almost always the new ones are worse for us and better for them, they lowered our commissions, they have unpredictable rejections, they are said not to be very communicative or responsive (do not know myself, have never needed their help)
DT: they punish us for their own mistakes (their so called "customer refund" - somebody has our images, we lose every control over them and even the small commission is stolen from us), they have their "well-covered-crap" rejections or "too many shots" rejections, they are going to re-review old portfolios for "similars" (nothing wrong in general but they did not mind them at all when they wanted to boas about xxx.xxx milestones or about xx.xxx new images every week, did they), they are going to remove accepted files and lower our acceptance ratios (again they did not mind similar files when they wanted to brag about their huge collection) - and this may easy be the beginning for them to change their conditions every other week and "re-review" portfolios whenever they feel like it. I would not be against stronger rules against similars or series - but it must be from now on, never retroactively.

madelaide · « **Reply #29 on:** May 06, 2009, 17:16 »

One EL there today - I was missing them!

cidepix · « **Reply #30 on:** May 06, 2009, 17:49 »

Quote from: cthoman on May 06, 2009, 15:28

While I don't think Fotolia is cooking the books, I definitely don't have a lot of trust in them. The vector price slashing really killed all the trust. I haven't uploaded a file since.

So, say what you want and vent on!

I don't upload my vectors on fotolia anymore. And I never will If they don't increase the price back to max.

I do keep uploading them as jpegs only and they sell ok. But I am done with fotolia about vectors. No matter what! They can become the world beater but they will never have my new vectors. I keep the old ones as they are still 8 credits, but if that changes and they lower them it means I am going to delete the entire vector port and probably re-upload them as jpegs.

I honestly believe we should find a way to create a microstock revolution. A contributor movement.

Imagine what would happen if we all pulled our images off of fotolia. It would surely send a BIG STATEMENT to all rival agencies!

Milinz · « **Reply #31 on:** May 25, 2009, 11:23 »

Quote from: cidepix on May 06, 2009, 17:49

Quote from: cthoman on May 06, 2009, 15:28
While I don't think Fotolia is cooking the books, I definitely don't have a lot of trust in them. The vector price slashing really killed all the trust. I haven't uploaded a file since.

So, say what you want and vent on!

I don't upload my vectors on fotolia anymore. And I never will If they don't increase the price back to max.

I do keep uploading them as jpegs only and they sell ok. But I am done with fotolia about vectors. No matter what! They can become the world beater but they will never have my new vectors. I keep the old ones as they are still 8 credits, but if that changes and they lower them it means I am going to delete the entire vector port and probably re-upload them as jpegs.

I honestly believe we should find a way to create a microstock revolution. A contributor movement.

Imagine what would happen if we all pulled our images off of fotolia. It would surely send a BIG STATEMENT to all rival agencies!

With artists who are on fotolia and also submitting to vectorstock, I find no problem having mine vectors more expensive... But, they'd have too much money for their vectors indeed... It is simple and because they give them on vectorstock for $1, $3 mostly!

I agree with you cidepix that if you don't feel enough payed for your vectors you should not upload. I am uploading simple only - those which are more complex anyway can't be uploaded there due to maximum 2MB Vector file limit. So, those are uploaded as rasterized versions if reviewers accept them.

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