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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2019, 11:46 »
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Awesome!  Thanks. :)

« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2019, 16:06 »
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Editorial footage would be great. For me it seems like editorial has bigger share in the video world than in photos.

« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2019, 16:30 »
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Great, finally some good news which applies to me too. Maybe I find motivation to start uploading again.

« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2019, 16:33 »
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does it apply to footage or only photo?


« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2019, 18:41 »
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thanxx mat..

« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2019, 07:32 »
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Hi Mat.

One question to clarify me illustrative editorial content: a building with property rights (for example any modern architecture building) but without signs, is illustrative editorial?

Thank you

« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2019, 07:34 »
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does it apply to footage or only photo?

Photos only for now.

-Mat

I should clarify this..."Images only for now." Vectors and Illustrations are welcome in addition to photographs.

Thanks,

Mat

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2019, 08:11 »
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what means exactly illustrative editorial?
for example an hotel of a touristic location is illustrative editorial?

« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2019, 10:04 »
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One question to clarify me illustrative editorial content: a building with property rights (for example any modern architecture building) but without signs, is illustrative editorial?

what means exactly illustrative editorial?
for example an hotel of a touristic location is illustrative editorial?

I have this same question too.

Mat, can you give us a clear definition of "illustrative editorial"?

Thanks!

« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2019, 10:09 »
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ILLUSTRATIVE EDITORIAL
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:

More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html

« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2019, 10:24 »
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ILLUSTRATIVE EDITORIAL
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:

More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html

OK, that helps! Thanks.

« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 10:52 »
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ILLUSTRATIVE EDITORIAL
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:

More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html

Thank you, I had already read it, and I know what it means in general terms: brands, signs, without recognizable people, ... but I still have doubts about buildings with property rights, for example: Empire Estate Building or any Norman Foster buildings,  could they be Illustrative Editorial?

Thanks

« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2019, 11:03 »
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ILLUSTRATIVE EDITORIAL
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:

More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html

Thank you, I had already read it, and I know what it means in general terms: brands, signs, without recognizable people, ... but I still have doubts about buildings with property rights, for example: Empire Estate Building or any Norman Foster buildings,  could they be Illustrative Editorial?

Thanks


Yes, that kind of clarification would definitely help.

I'm not ever going to do the kinds of set-up (still life) photos shown on AS's info page (the link).

However, I have on occasion photographed places with recognizable buildings. It would be useful to know that those are acceptable within the category of Illustrative Editorial.

« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2019, 11:55 »
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ILLUSTRATIVE EDITORIAL
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:

More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html

Thank you, I had already read it, and I know what it means in general terms: brands, signs, without recognizable people, ... but I still have doubts about buildings with property rights, for example: Empire Estate Building or any Norman Foster buildings,  could they be Illustrative Editorial?

Thanks

There isn't a 'one-size-fits-all' answer to this question. It's going to depend on the image and the building. You want to avoid uploading as Illustrative Editorial as a method of escaping rejection. If an image can be licensed for commercial use, that's how it should be submitted. To be acceptable, Illustrative Editorial content must clearly depict a brand. If it's an unmarked building that's protected, it's unlikely a buyer would be looking for that for editorial purposes.

-Mat

« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2019, 12:32 »
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The thing that confuses contributors is it that you use the term 'Illustrative Editorial" to mean something different than how, the first micro site (SS) to use the term, defines "Illustrative Editorial".

Products are "Illustrative Editorial' and identifiable buildings are just editorial on SS.
Frankly I don't understand the need for the distinction but that's the way they do it.

Adobe Stock on the other hand is lumping all editorial images (without people) into "illustrative Editorial".

As for what is acceptable at AS in regards to buildings as Commercial vs Editorial and what SS considers Commercial or Editorial can be quite different and somewhat vague, not only to contributors but to reviewers as well. Rejections are all over the place.

My advice to anyone is upload it and let AS figure it out.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2019, 12:34 by PhotoBomb »

« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2019, 13:26 »
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I have uploaded about 60 editorial images to this time. Most of them have been approved. I have sold a small few but that is great because it is clearly new sales. Thank you Adobe Stock. 

« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2019, 14:17 »
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There isn't a 'one-size-fits-all' answer to this question. It's going to depend on the image and the building. You want to avoid uploading as Illustrative Editorial as a method of escaping rejection. If an image can be licensed for commercial use, that's how it should be submitted. To be acceptable, Illustrative Editorial content must clearly depict a brand. If it's an unmarked building that's protected, it's unlikely a buyer would be looking for that for editorial purposes.

-Mat

Not to belabor a point that you possibly can't clarify further  ;)   

But

A. Would a photo of a city skyline that included one iconic, recognizable building among many nondescript others pass muster for Commercial use?

B. Or does that one recognizable structure keep the whole thing from being acceptable either as Commercial or Illustrative Editorial?

C. If the answer to B is Yes   What if there's a large sign on that recognizable structure showing a specific brand name (say, Trump Tower :D), would it then be acceptable for Illustrative Editorial but not Commercial?

This isn't entirely an academic exercise for me, Mat, given that I travel a lot and often wonder if urban images are worth bothering with, rather than just the natural critters and landscapes that I usually focus on.

Thanks for your patience.  ;D


« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2019, 15:19 »
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There isn't a 'one-size-fits-all' answer to this question. It's going to depend on the image and the building. You want to avoid uploading as Illustrative Editorial as a method of escaping rejection. If an image can be licensed for commercial use, that's how it should be submitted. To be acceptable, Illustrative Editorial content must clearly depict a brand. If it's an unmarked building that's protected, it's unlikely a buyer would be looking for that for editorial purposes.

-Mat

Not to belabor a point that you possibly can't clarify further  ;)   

But

A. Would a photo of a city skyline that included one iconic, recognizable building among many nondescript others pass muster for Commercial use?

B. Or does that one recognizable structure keep the whole thing from being acceptable either as Commercial or Illustrative Editorial?

C. If the answer to B is Yes   What if there's a large sign on that recognizable structure showing a specific brand name (say, Trump Tower :D), would it then be acceptable for Illustrative Editorial but not Commercial?

This isn't entirely an academic exercise for me, Mat, given that I travel a lot and often wonder if urban images are worth bothering with, rather than just the natural critters and landscapes that I usually focus on.

Thanks for your patience.  ;D

It would depend on the image. I can't answer a hypothetical with a definite yay or nay. If the shot was of the sign then probably yes but a cityscape that happens to have the sign in it incidentally, probably no.

-Mat

« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2019, 16:43 »
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There isn't a 'one-size-fits-all' answer to this question. It's going to depend on the image and the building. You want to avoid uploading as Illustrative Editorial as a method of escaping rejection. If an image can be licensed for commercial use, that's how it should be submitted. To be acceptable, Illustrative Editorial content must clearly depict a brand. If it's an unmarked building that's protected, it's unlikely a buyer would be looking for that for editorial purposes.

-Mat

Not to belabor a point that you possibly can't clarify further  ;)   

But

A. Would a photo of a city skyline that included one iconic, recognizable building among many nondescript others pass muster for Commercial use?

B. Or does that one recognizable structure keep the whole thing from being acceptable either as Commercial or Illustrative Editorial?

C. If the answer to B is Yes   What if there's a large sign on that recognizable structure showing a specific brand name (say, Trump Tower :D), would it then be acceptable for Illustrative Editorial but not Commercial?

This isn't entirely an academic exercise for me, Mat, given that I travel a lot and often wonder if urban images are worth bothering with, rather than just the natural critters and landscapes that I usually focus on.

Thanks for your patience.  ;D

It would depend on the image. I can't answer a hypothetical with a definite yay or nay. If the shot was of the sign then probably yes but a cityscape that happens to have the sign in it incidentally, probably no.

-Mat

Okay, and that's fine. Appreciate your input, as always!

« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2019, 10:54 »
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My skyline cityscapes usually contain 30 or more signs, billboards, and murals.  I clone them all away to create commercially usable material.  The end product is quite altered.  True editorial content should have no cloning at all.  Please consider loosening the acceptable editorial policy to include "clone free" skylines and cityscapes. 

« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2019, 11:53 »
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Great!

Thanks!

My I ask for an improvment? Please import both  the "description" and "title" IPTC tags  from the uploaded file and let me chose between them.  Most often the best description is not in the title tag.

Best regards

T.G

« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2019, 14:47 »
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Great point about title and description.

« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2019, 06:44 »
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Great news. I knew that it would be available for Silver sooner than I would have reached Gold :-)

« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2019, 08:20 »
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Great news. I knew that it would be available for Silver sooner than I would have reached Gold :-)

Same here!  :D

However, I doubt I'll do much Illustrative Editorial. It's just not my thing.

« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2019, 09:12 »
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Thank you Mat, great news! I'm looking forward for the footage too!

wds

« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2019, 12:40 »
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.....and to lift the restriction on unreleased people!...but I am not complaining.

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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2019, 17:30 »
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great news Matt!

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2019, 10:18 »
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I had some questions from the readers of my blog about what exactly an illustrative editorial image is. I've just tried to explain that in a new post and outlined how successful the first two months of my experience with this new usage type has been with Adobe Stock:

https://www.backyardsilver.com/2019/12/adobe-illustrative-editorial-stock-images/

Hope it is helpful for those interested in submitting such shots to Adobe.

Steve

wds

« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2019, 23:02 »
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I had some questions from the readers of my blog about what exactly an illustrative editorial image is. I've just tried to explain that in a new post and outlined how successful the first two months of my experience with this new usage type has been with Adobe Stock:

https://www.backyardsilver.com/2019/12/adobe-illustrative-editorial-stock-images/

Hope it is helpful for those interested in submitting such shots to Adobe.

Steve

How do you find your editorial sales on Adobestock vs. Shutterstock?

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2019, 11:21 »
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How do you find your editorial sales on Adobestock vs. Shutterstock?

That is really hard to answer. I have many more at SS because they take all sorts of editorial, and also I have no way in Microstockr Pro to split out editorial shots. I did this analysis of Adobe by eye - looking at each image that sold and deciding if it was editorial or not.

No way I can do that for SS.

To a large extent, it doesn't matter - I put all files with all agencies that will take them and use Stock Submitter to do that. So the cost of putting a file on an agency is zero so I do it. Relative sales of different types of image then are "interesting" but not "important"

Steve

« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2020, 18:31 »
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any information on next phase of availability?

« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2020, 10:50 »
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any information on next phase of availability?

Not at this time, I expect it will remain with the silver rank and above for a while. If you have an established portfolio of Illustrative Editorial you can submit your portfolio via the contact us link found at the bottom of the Adobe Stock Contributor portal for consideration.

-Mat Hayward

« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2020, 04:54 »
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I sent editorial images with trademark and without recognizable people, some were accepted and others refused for reason "File is not illustrative editorial". I have normally resubmitted these same images and they have been refused for "violation of the Intellectual Property Code". I sent a message to support explaining the problem to them and here is their response:

"Thank you for contacting us. Currently, we are not accepting editorial submissions from individual contributors. This is by invitation only.

Unless you have been invited by our Editorial team to submit these type of files, you won't be able to sell them through our site for now.

If you have any questions, or to update your case, simply respond to this email. "

« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2020, 08:13 »
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any information on next phase of availability?

Not at this time, I expect it will remain with the silver rank and above for a while. If you have an established portfolio of Illustrative Editorial you can submit your portfolio via the contact us link found at the bottom of the Adobe Stock Contributor portal for consideration.

-Mat Hayward

thanks.  Don't have the availability to create portfolio at this time.  was curious, and more if it was worth creating AS versions of Illustrative Editorial specific at time being, and i guess you are saying no. 


 

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