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« on: June 23, 2022, 08:38 »
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Hi guys.

So, for once, I'm not going to complain (that much). I was slowly starting to work on my June report, and I noticed my numbers on AS significantly improved. I started to make some year to date comparison, and I realized it's something pretty recent, as the first part of the year was pretty disappointing. RPD is still lower, but not that much compared to the first part of the year.

I wanted to know if I was the only one to experience such changes (and, if there are some guys from AS passing by, if they can tell us something about some recent news that could have impacted sales that well).




« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2022, 08:48 »
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same, i love AS.  :D
with SS i would need 5-10 times more dls to earn the same. so, no more uploads to SS. Is just too crazy.
i love to support AS, with my uploads or a few free images for them. whatever AS wants, they can have it from me. :)

« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2022, 09:12 »
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It's not like that with me. Everything is quite normal. The RPD for images is for me in the period of a year at $1.17. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. But I don't have such significant increases in downloads as you do.

« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2022, 09:29 »
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It's not like that with me. Everything is quite normal. The RPD for images is for me in the period of a year at $1.17. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. But I don't have such significant increases in downloads as you do.

I can see a few good weeks here and there, but the earnings total is about the same.
But I can clearly see a step up in downloads in 2022 (magenta line on the graph).

This explains why my RPD dropped from $1.62 during the second half of 2021, to $1.30 this year.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2022, 09:56 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2022, 10:11 »
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Adobe is poor for me this month, as it was last June too. I'm doing much better on SS despite a weaker RPD.

« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2022, 11:11 »
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Hi guys.

So, for once, I'm not going to complain (that much). I was slowly starting to work on my June report, and I noticed my numbers on AS significantly improved. I started to make some year to date comparison, and I realized it's something pretty recent, as the first part of the year was pretty disappointing. RPD is still lower, but not that much compared to the first part of the year.

I wanted to know if I was the only one to experience such changes (and, if there are some guys from AS passing by, if they can tell us something about some recent news that could have impacted sales that well).

I could have agreed untill this month, since they started with this give us your worknsonwe can give it away for free my sells went to aero.

« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2022, 11:20 »
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No improvement here. June is a particularly bad month compared to the rest of the year so far. And compared to June last year I have an 60% increase in sales, but no significant increase in earnings.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2022, 11:27 by Firn »

« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2022, 11:58 »
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Hi guys.

So, for once, I'm not going to complain (that much). I was slowly starting to work on my June report, and I noticed my numbers on AS significantly improved. I started to make some year to date comparison, and I realized it's something pretty recent, as the first part of the year was pretty disappointing. RPD is still lower, but not that much compared to the first part of the year.

I wanted to know if I was the only one to experience such changes (and, if there are some guys from AS passing by, if they can tell us something about some recent news that could have impacted sales that well).

Similar thoughts here too! I'm also very pleased with the development of Adobe over the last year, with almost every month being better than the last. I also started from scratch with Getty and Shutterstock last summer. One observation I have made is that with adobe it takes time for a new image to sell, whereas with Getty or Shutterstock an approved image can sell immediately. It also makes you wonder how the images can sell so differently in these three major sites. On one site, an image may sell once, while on another it may sell hundreds of times. Anyway, what I'm particularly happy about is that RPD has also increased on all sites in the last three months.  :D

« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2022, 12:35 »
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Even though I like Adobe, I have to say I almost always make more on SS (despite the super low RPD), both number of downloads and actual income is higher, and there may be only one, maybe two months in a year when this is not so. I have noticed many people are experiencing the exact opposite, and that brings up the question: is  there some type of content or artisitc approach which is generally doing better on Adobe Stock? Obviously I am asking in order to improve my stats on Adobe and keep moving forward.

« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2022, 12:42 »
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RPD at Adobe is slipping for me but, and it is a big but, the volume of sales is improving greatly. So far over 10k dls this year compared 6.8k for the same period last year. Net take is up just over 18% compared to the same period last year.

I hope we don't see as big a drop in terms of $/RPD but as long as I keep earning more each year then they must be doing something right.

« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2022, 13:12 »
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It's not like that with me. Everything is quite normal. The RPD for images is for me in the period of a year at $1.17. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. But I don't have such significant increases in downloads as you do.

I can see a few good weeks here and there, but the earnings total is about the same.
But I can clearly see a step up in downloads in 2022 (magenta line on the graph).

This explains why my RPD dropped from $1.62 during the second half of 2021, to $1.30 this year.

Does your RPD include your video sales?

However, I know that my numbers are not as statistically significant as yours. Because you have, although you have zero talent, sold approximately twice as much compared to me.

Anyway, I'm satisfied with AS. And it's currently the only agency I can say that about.

« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2022, 13:16 »
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RPD at Adobe is slipping for me but, and it is a big but, the volume of sales is improving greatly. So far over 10k dls this year compared 6.8k for the same period last year. Net take is up just over 18% compared to the same period last year.

I hope we don't see as big a drop in terms of $/RPD but as long as I keep earning more each year then they must be doing something right.

Wow, those are good numbers! Congratulations!

If you don't mind me asking, how big is your AS portfolio?

« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2022, 13:51 »
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It's not like that with me. Everything is quite normal. The RPD for images is for me in the period of a year at $1.17. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. But I don't have such significant increases in downloads as you do.

I can see a few good weeks here and there, but the earnings total is about the same.
But I can clearly see a step up in downloads in 2022 (magenta line on the graph).

This explains why my RPD dropped from $1.62 during the second half of 2021, to $1.30 this year.

Does your RPD include your video sales?

However, I know that my numbers are not as statistically significant as yours. Because you have, although you have zero talent, sold approximately twice as much compared to me.

Anyway, I'm satisfied with AS. And it's currently the only agency I can say that about.

Yes, it does. Most likely this is why my RPD dropped. Let's remember that video earnings were significantly slashed lately, hence the RPD hit.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2022, 14:18 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2022, 14:32 »
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RPD is irrelevant -- i'd rather have a low RPD for a site earning $100/mo than a high RPD that generates $10/mo.  actual income is what matters.

for me, SS still outperforms AS by 2-3x every month (and canva now rivals SS most months with their su bscription distirubtion payments)

« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2022, 14:35 »
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for me it's quite a shity stats for video... number of sales slowly rise because of the photos I also upload, but the income is dropping (15k+ video, 2k+ photos)

« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2022, 15:40 »
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RPD is irrelevant -- i'd rather have a low RPD for a site earning $100/mo than a high RPD that generates $10/mo.  actual income is what matters.

for me, SS still outperforms AS by 2-3x every month (and canva now rivals SS most months with their su bscription distirubtion payments)

Sorry, I have to disagree. It does play a big role if you have significantly more downloads at one agency than at another - but the significantly more downloads only bring in a fifth of the revenue. Because at the agency with the significantly more downloads and the significantly lower revenue, money is earned at my expense, which arrives at the agency, but not at me.

If one agency manages to keep the RPD of the contributors at the same level for many years, and at the same time another agency argues that the revenue for the contributors has to be reduced in order to "survive in a competitive market", then something is wrong, isn't it?

AS shows that it works without any losses for the contributors. That should be commended for once.

I also once had such an agency, where significantly more came in than with AS. Today, this agency is no longer even a shadow of its former self.

« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2022, 16:02 »
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I look to have bottomed out Q2 of 2021 and slowly climbing back up.

SVH

« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2022, 16:18 »
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I wanted to know if I was the only one to experience such changes (and, if there are some guys from AS passing by, if they can tell us something about some recent news that could have impacted sales that well).
I think my downloads went to your account because I'm getting almost nothing. I have better luck at SS and Istock then with Adobe the last few months. Probably because I haven't had time to upload, upload, upload. And Adobe may just punish people who don't feed the beast. So I'll send you my paypal account to even things up a bit :)

« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2022, 17:48 »
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RPD at Adobe is slipping for me but, and it is a big but, the volume of sales is improving greatly. So far over 10k dls this year compared 6.8k for the same period last year. Net take is up just over 18% compared to the same period last year.

I hope we don't see as big a drop in terms of $/RPD but as long as I keep earning more each year then they must be doing something right.

Wow, those are good numbers! Congratulations!

If you don't mind me asking, how big is your AS portfolio?

Cheers approx 19k

« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2022, 19:50 »
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This thread convinced me to look at my numbers over the last year. Like Zero Talent, my downloads are up, but my RPD is down. I was happier before I knew this

« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2022, 21:04 »
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RPD at Adobe is slipping for me but, and it is a big but, the volume of sales is improving greatly. So far over 10k dls this year compared 6.8k for the same period last year. Net take is up just over 18% compared to the same period last year.

I hope we don't see as big a drop in terms of $/RPD but as long as I keep earning more each year then they must be doing something right.

Wow, those are good numbers! Congratulations!

If you don't mind me asking, how big is your AS portfolio?

Cheers approx 19k

Thought I knew that .name somewhere. His / her real name is TripleFull cleverly and clandestinely disguised as HalfFull.

« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2022, 22:29 »
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Compared to same period from last year my downloads and earnings went up for about the same, 30%, while my RPD went from o,97 to 0,89.

I prefer more earnings than higher RPD though.

« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2022, 03:09 »
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RPD at Adobe is slipping for me but, and it is a big but, the volume of sales is improving greatly. So far over 10k dls this year compared 6.8k for the same period last year. Net take is up just over 18% compared to the same period last year.

I hope we don't see as big a drop in terms of $/RPD but as long as I keep earning more each year then they must be doing something right.

Wow, those are good numbers! Congratulations!

If you don't mind me asking, how big is your AS portfolio?

Cheers approx 19k

Thought I knew that .name somewhere. His / her real name is TripleFull cleverly and clandestinely disguised as HalfFull.

...TripleFull...
You're right - that would fit better.

« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2022, 03:32 »
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RPD at Adobe is slipping for me but, and it is a big but, the volume of sales is improving greatly. So far over 10k dls this year compared 6.8k for the same period last year. Net take is up just over 18% compared to the same period last year.

I hope we don't see as big a drop in terms of $/RPD but as long as I keep earning more each year then they must be doing something right.

Wow, those are good numbers! Congratulations!

If you don't mind me asking, how big is your AS portfolio?

Cheers approx 19k

Your numbers indicate that you will sell as many images at AS this year as you have images in your portfolio.
I don't think there are many contributors with large portfolios who can achieve that. Respect! Your images must be good!

« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2022, 04:32 »
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RPD is irrelevant -- i'd rather have a low RPD for a site earning $100/mo than a high RPD that generates $10/mo.  actual income is what matters.

for me, SS still outperforms AS by 2-3x every month (and canva now rivals SS most months with their su bscription distirubtion payments)

Sorry, I have to disagree. It does play a big role if you have significantly more downloads at one agency than at another - but the significantly more downloads only bring in a fifth of the revenue. Because at the agency with the significantly more downloads and the significantly lower revenue, money is earned at my expense, which arrives at the agency, but not at me.....

we agree because you're shifting the goalposts now to include # of DL which is not part of RPD,  RPD alone tells you nothing  - it's the actual income that matters - it can come from either high RPD & few DL or low RPD and many DL - therefore RPD is irrelevant as a measure

« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2022, 09:51 »
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...RPD alone tells you nothing  - it's the actual income that matters - it can come from either high RPD & few DL or low RPD and many DL - therefore RPD is irrelevant as a measure

There is one way in which RPD is a very useful metric for contributors. Is it increasing or decreasing over time?

If an agency is increasing downloads by cutting prices and slashing royalty payments, overall income for contributors can go up, for a while, especially for good portfolios with very saleable work.

The problem is that you can't keep that up for the long term - at some point you can't grow the volume more and the price cuts/discounts have lost any effectiveness they once had.

Growing monthly income totals with a falling RPD can be a sign of an unsustainable situation.

« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2022, 14:41 »
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RPD is irrelevant -- i'd rather have a low RPD for a site earning $100/mo than a high RPD that generates $10/mo.  actual income is what matters.

for me, SS still outperforms AS by 2-3x every month (and canva now rivals SS most months with their su bscription distirubtion payments)

Sorry, I have to disagree. It does play a big role if you have significantly more downloads at one agency than at another - but the significantly more downloads only bring in a fifth of the revenue. Because at the agency with the significantly more downloads and the significantly lower revenue, money is earned at my expense, which arrives at the agency, but not at me.....

we agree because you're shifting the goalposts now to include # of DL which is not part of RPD,  RPD alone tells you nothing  - it's the actual income that matters - it can come from either high RPD & few DL or low RPD and many DL - therefore RPD is irrelevant as a measure

cascoly,

for me, RPD is to the microstock business what hourly wages are to industry or the service sector.

And, of course, you're right: if you work 80 hours a week for $10, you'll have double that in your bank account at the end of the month than if you work 10 hours a week for $40.

But in the microstock business, we're heading toward the point where soon you'll have to work 24 hours 7 days a week to get to the income you used to earn with one-tenth the work. That's sick. And not common anywhere in industry or the service sector.

And that's why the RPD is a very definitive factor for me. It shows us how "healthy" or how "sick" our business is. It's an indication of which agency is "a fair employer."

Those who, with a lot of work, manage to increase revenues, must realize that not so long ago they would have earned four times as much.

Everyone talks about and is afraid of inflation. In microstock, inflation has been devastating for years! And at some point, even the most diligent contributor runs out of energy to make any more increases. You can't feed the beast forever. At some point it will eat you.

« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2022, 15:09 »
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Most of my recent better works go to AS first because of the much higher RPD there. Some of them will be uploaded to SS (and iS) months later. This works for me. This year's earnings from AS so far is 85% higher than SS, the same trend as in the forum's Earning Rating. Download numbers on SS does not decrease but almost all of them are $0.10.

Some smaller agencies offer good RPD but sadly they're too small to attract many buyers.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2022, 15:23 by flywing »

« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2022, 17:34 »
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RPD is irrelevant -- i'd rather have a low RPD for a site earning $100/mo than a high RPD that generates $10/mo.  actual income is what matters.

for me, SS still outperforms AS by 2-3x every month (and canva now rivals SS most months with their su bscription distirubtion payments)

Sorry, I have to disagree. It does play a big role if you have significantly more downloads at one agency than at another - but the significantly more downloads only bring in a fifth of the revenue. Because at the agency with the significantly more downloads and the significantly lower revenue, money is earned at my expense, which arrives at the agency, but not at me.....

we agree because you're shifting the goalposts now to include # of DL which is not part of RPD,  RPD alone tells you nothing  - it's the actual income that matters - it can come from either high RPD & few DL or low RPD and many DL - therefore RPD is irrelevant as a measure

cascoly,

for me, RPD is to the microstock business what hourly wages are to industry or the service sector.

And, of course, you're right: if you work 80 hours a week for $10, you'll have double that in your bank account at the end of the month than if you work 10 hours a week for $40.

But in the microstock business, we're heading toward the point where soon you'll have to work 24 hours 7 days a week to get to the income you used to earn with one-tenth the work. That's sick. And not common anywhere in industry or the service sector.

And that's why the RPD is a very definitive factor for me. It shows us how "healthy" or how "sick" our business is. It's an indication of which agency is "a fair employer."

Those who, with a lot of work, manage to increase revenues, must realize that not so long ago they would have earned four times as much.

Everyone talks about and is afraid of inflation. In microstock, inflation has been devastating for years! And at some point, even the most diligent contributor runs out of energy to make any more increases. You can't feed the beast forever. At some point it will eat you.

My favourite subject  ;)

RPIs vs RPDs vs Total Income. These are some of the ways I've been able to use these stats in the past:

RPIs (Return per Image, total income/total number of images). This was the most valuable ratio for me because it told what to shoot. I used to divide my port into sets and calculate the RPIs for each set, every 3 or 4 months. And then compare the rise or fall of each compared to the last period. If the percentages went up, then I knew I could shoot more for that set and not oversaturate. If it went down, then I would stop shooting for that subject, it was oversaturated.

RPDs (Return per Download, total income/number of downloads). I used these to compare value between agencies, or compare the average price between types of subjects.

Taken from my older spreadsheets, here are some examples:

Food (non-holiday) photography vs Mother's Day photos vs Christmas photos.  Food had the highest RPD, which told me that I was more likely to receive ODDs and SODs sales than the others, but it had a low RPI, and the lowest total income. Mother's Day photos had very high income, and the highest RPI which was still rising, so there was room for more images. Christmas had low RPI and RPD, but the highest total income (because it had the most images).

My decision: Shoot more Mother's Day. Forget non-holiday food because my time was better spent shooting other subjects. I decided to keep shooting Christmas, even though it was oversaturated, mainly because I enjoy Christmas photography and styling, and still had lots of ideas for some of the niche subsets of Christmas.

In summary, my recommendation is to use them in conjunction with each other to get a broader picture, and to guide you on what to shoot, what to stop shooting, and what agencies to upload to or not.  If you only use total income as a guide, you may be missing out on some better opportunities, or important useful data.

...

To answer the OP. My total income on AS this month is almost the same as the exact same period in 2021. So no difference for me.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2022, 19:28 by Annie »

« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2022, 15:10 »
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I've made 48% of my earnings on Adobe in just the past 12 weeks, I've definitely seen an earnings surge recently. Nice to say something positive given all the bad news lately (stock, US, world ...)

MxR

« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2022, 04:49 »
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The problem is that as istock already did, in 2020 shutter leaves fair payments to contributors on the shoulders of other agencies, leaving the burden of decent commissions on adobe. It is a matter of time before Adobe lowers our commissions, perhaps in my case this movement is no longer necessary to put aside the professional microstock and send them photos of my cat.
 
Adobe is my 1st earner...because Shutter is at 50%-60% with the 0.10 trick

« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2022, 11:45 »
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The problem is that as istock already did, in 2020 shutter leaves fair payments to contributors on the shoulders of other agencies, leaving the burden of decent commissions on adobe. It is a matter of time before Adobe lowers our commissions, perhaps in my case this movement is no longer necessary to put aside the professional microstock and send them photos of my cat.
 
Adobe is my 1st earner...because Shutter is at 50%-60% with the 0.10 trick

But it looks like AS gets more revenue from each sale than SS?

Supposing we gets $0.10 and that is 15% of image's price. That means SS gets $0.57 (85%) per image.

At AS, the lowest we gets is $0.33 (33% of image's price). That means AS gets $0.67 (67%) per image. And there are also more frequent medium-value sales at AS.

The next factor is number of sales between AS and SS. And it looks like AS is gaining much more downloads than before? For me, it is. And from the forum's poll results (62.4 vs 31.9), it probably is.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2022, 11:51 by flywing »

« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2022, 12:14 »
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The problem is that as istock already did, in 2020 shutter leaves fair payments to contributors on the shoulders of other agencies, leaving the burden of decent commissions on adobe. It is a matter of time before Adobe lowers our commissions, perhaps in my case this movement is no longer necessary to put aside the professional microstock and send them photos of my cat.
 
Adobe is my 1st earner...because Shutter is at 50%-60% with the 0.10 trick

But it looks like AS gets more revenue from each sale than SS?

Supposing we gets $0.10 and that is 15% of image's price. That means SS gets $0.57 (85%) per image.

At AS, the lowest we gets is $0.33 (33% of image's price). That means AS gets $0.67 (67%) per image. And there are also more frequent medium-value sales at AS.

The next factor is number of sales between AS and SS. And it looks like AS is gaining much more downloads than before? For me, it is. And from the forum's poll results (62.4 vs 31.9), it probably is.

Not necessarily.
For example, my SS RPD for May was $1.46/dl, while my AS RPD for May was $1.40/dl.
For June, my SS RPD is $1.42/dl, while my AS RPD dropped to $0.99/dl

You forget to include the big sales that are more frequent on SS than on AS.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2022, 12:20 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2022, 12:26 »
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The problem is that as istock already did, in 2020 shutter leaves fair payments to contributors on the shoulders of other agencies, leaving the burden of decent commissions on adobe. It is a matter of time before Adobe lowers our commissions, perhaps in my case this movement is no longer necessary to put aside the professional microstock and send them photos of my cat.
 
Adobe is my 1st earner...because Shutter is at 50%-60% with the 0.10 trick

But it looks like AS gets more revenue from each sale than SS?

Supposing we gets $0.10 and that is 15% of image's price. That means SS gets $0.57 (85%) per image.

At AS, the lowest we gets is $0.33 (33% of image's price). That means AS gets $0.67 (67%) per image. And there are also more frequent medium-value sales at AS.

The next factor is number of sales between AS and SS. And it looks like AS is gaining much more downloads than before? For me, it is. And from the forum's poll results (62.4 vs 31.9), it probably is.

Not necessarily.
For example, my SS RPD for May was $1.46/dl, while my AS RPD for May was $1.40/dl.
For June, my SS RPD is $1.42/dl, while my AS RPD dropped to $0.99/dl

You forget to include the big sales that are more frequent on SS than on AS.

Big Sales on SS? You must be lucky! I dont know what you are talking about!

« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2022, 12:31 »
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The problem is that as istock already did, in 2020 shutter leaves fair payments to contributors on the shoulders of other agencies, leaving the burden of decent commissions on adobe. It is a matter of time before Adobe lowers our commissions, perhaps in my case this movement is no longer necessary to put aside the professional microstock and send them photos of my cat.
 
Adobe is my 1st earner...because Shutter is at 50%-60% with the 0.10 trick

But it looks like AS gets more revenue from each sale than SS?

Supposing we gets $0.10 and that is 15% of image's price. That means SS gets $0.57 (85%) per image.

At AS, the lowest we gets is $0.33 (33% of image's price). That means AS gets $0.67 (67%) per image. And there are also more frequent medium-value sales at AS.

The next factor is number of sales between AS and SS. And it looks like AS is gaining much more downloads than before? For me, it is. And from the forum's poll results (62.4 vs 31.9), it probably is.

Not necessarily.
For example, my SS RPD for May was $1.46/dl, while my AS RPD for May was $1.40/dl.
For June, my SS RPD is $1.42/dl, while my AS RPD dropped to $0.99/dl

You forget to include the big sales that are more frequent on SS than on AS.

Big Sales on SS? You must be lucky! I dont know what you are talking about!

I am talking about stuff like this (recorded this month on SS):
 ;)

« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2022, 12:53 »
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The problem is that as istock already did, in 2020 shutter leaves fair payments to contributors on the shoulders of other agencies, leaving the burden of decent commissions on adobe. It is a matter of time before Adobe lowers our commissions, perhaps in my case this movement is no longer necessary to put aside the professional microstock and send them photos of my cat.
 
Adobe is my 1st earner...because Shutter is at 50%-60% with the 0.10 trick

But it looks like AS gets more revenue from each sale than SS?

Supposing we gets $0.10 and that is 15% of image's price. That means SS gets $0.57 (85%) per image.

At AS, the lowest we gets is $0.33 (33% of image's price). That means AS gets $0.67 (67%) per image. And there are also more frequent medium-value sales at AS.

The next factor is number of sales between AS and SS. And it looks like AS is gaining much more downloads than before? For me, it is. And from the forum's poll results (62.4 vs 31.9), it probably is.

Not necessarily.
For example, my SS RPD for May was $1.46/dl, while my AS RPD for May was $1.40/dl.
For June, my SS RPD is $1.42/dl, while my AS RPD dropped to $0.99/dl

You forget to include the big sales that are more frequent on SS than on AS.

Big Sales on SS? You must be lucky! I dont know what you are talking about!

I am talking about stuff like this (recorded this month on SS):
 ;)

Yes, I know! I had already seen that.    :P

I don't have to explain it to you - we've known each other long enough for that now, but I actually had exactly one download for an impressive $6.95 this month. The rest were in the minimum range.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2022, 12:57 by Wilm »

« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2022, 13:08 »
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The problem is that as istock already did, in 2020 shutter leaves fair payments to contributors on the shoulders of other agencies, leaving the burden of decent commissions on adobe. It is a matter of time before Adobe lowers our commissions, perhaps in my case this movement is no longer necessary to put aside the professional microstock and send them photos of my cat.
 
Adobe is my 1st earner...because Shutter is at 50%-60% with the 0.10 trick

But it looks like AS gets more revenue from each sale than SS?

Supposing we gets $0.10 and that is 15% of image's price. That means SS gets $0.57 (85%) per image.

At AS, the lowest we gets is $0.33 (33% of image's price). That means AS gets $0.67 (67%) per image. And there are also more frequent medium-value sales at AS.

The next factor is number of sales between AS and SS. And it looks like AS is gaining much more downloads than before? For me, it is. And from the forum's poll results (62.4 vs 31.9), it probably is.

Not necessarily.
For example, my SS RPD for May was $1.46/dl, while my AS RPD for May was $1.40/dl.
For June, my SS RPD is $1.42/dl, while my AS RPD dropped to $0.99/dl

You forget to include the big sales that are more frequent on SS than on AS.

Big Sales on SS? You must be lucky! I dont know what you are talking about!

I am talking about stuff like this (recorded this month on SS):
 ;)

Yes, I know! I had already seen that.    :P

I don't have to explain it to you - we've known each other long enough for that now, but I actually had exactly one download for an impressive $6.95 this month. The rest were in the minimum range.
:D
It's not only that Wilm. Last month I got these image sales like this:
These are more frequent and more valuable than what I get on AS, hence the higher SS RPD.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2022, 13:11 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2022, 13:30 »
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The problem is that as istock already did, in 2020 shutter leaves fair payments to contributors on the shoulders of other agencies, leaving the burden of decent commissions on adobe. It is a matter of time before Adobe lowers our commissions, perhaps in my case this movement is no longer necessary to put aside the professional microstock and send them photos of my cat.
 
Adobe is my 1st earner...because Shutter is at 50%-60% with the 0.10 trick

But it looks like AS gets more revenue from each sale than SS?

Supposing we gets $0.10 and that is 15% of image's price. That means SS gets $0.57 (85%) per image.

At AS, the lowest we gets is $0.33 (33% of image's price). That means AS gets $0.67 (67%) per image. And there are also more frequent medium-value sales at AS.

The next factor is number of sales between AS and SS. And it looks like AS is gaining much more downloads than before? For me, it is. And from the forum's poll results (62.4 vs 31.9), it probably is.

Not necessarily.
For example, my SS RPD for May was $1.46/dl, while my AS RPD for May was $1.40/dl.
For June, my SS RPD is $1.42/dl, while my AS RPD dropped to $0.99/dl

You forget to include the big sales that are more frequent on SS than on AS.

The point of the reply (to MxR's post) is more about the effects on agencies of selling at lower prices.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2022, 14:05 by flywing »

« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2022, 14:37 »
+1
The problem is that as istock already did, in 2020 shutter leaves fair payments to contributors on the shoulders of other agencies, leaving the burden of decent commissions on adobe. It is a matter of time before Adobe lowers our commissions, perhaps in my case this movement is no longer necessary to put aside the professional microstock and send them photos of my cat.
 
Adobe is my 1st earner...because Shutter is at 50%-60% with the 0.10 trick

But it looks like AS gets more revenue from each sale than SS?

Supposing we gets $0.10 and that is 15% of image's price. That means SS gets $0.57 (85%) per image.

At AS, the lowest we gets is $0.33 (33% of image's price). That means AS gets $0.67 (67%) per image. And there are also more frequent medium-value sales at AS.

The next factor is number of sales between AS and SS. And it looks like AS is gaining much more downloads than before? For me, it is. And from the forum's poll results (62.4 vs 31.9), it probably is.

Not necessarily.
For example, my SS RPD for May was $1.46/dl, while my AS RPD for May was $1.40/dl.
For June, my SS RPD is $1.42/dl, while my AS RPD dropped to $0.99/dl

You forget to include the big sales that are more frequent on SS than on AS.

Big Sales on SS? You must be lucky! I dont know what you are talking about!

I am talking about stuff like this (recorded this month on SS):
 ;)

Yes, I know! I had already seen that.    :P

I don't have to explain it to you - we've known each other long enough for that now, but I actually had exactly one download for an impressive $6.95 this month. The rest were in the minimum range.
:D
It's not only that Wilm. Last month I got these image sales like this:
These are more frequent and more valuable than what I get on AS, hence the higher SS RPD.

Yes, when the bigger SODs come in at SS, there's more there.

I had a few Enhanced this month at AS, but nothing at SS. And then it comes down to the BME.

But I'm happy for you! Well deserved!

« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2022, 03:51 »
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SS has the bigger sales ($). I've had one $112 & $91 this week. Adobe does have quite a few from 20-60 mark as well but whereas SS has loads for $0.10 AS is more consistently around the 1 mark with far more sales. SS is only 1/3 - 1/2 of AS for me, even with the bigger SS sales.


 

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