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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: wds on August 07, 2022, 08:13
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I just noticed that Adobe is offering "png" files.
A few questions:
- Is their offering png files something new or something that's been there previously?
- Is there a way to specifically search for png files?
- Do png files display on the site in such a way that it is obvious where the "transparency" is?
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Where did you see that? All I can find is this page: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/kb/adobe-stock-known-issues.html saying they don't offer PNG files. They don't appear as an option when I search.
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https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/kb/adobe-stock-known-issues.html
This is pretty recent and says they don't have PNG files - why did you think they did?
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When I go to the upload page I see the attached image on the upload page. (this is of course just part of the upload page).
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That's funny - I had uploaded something earlier and never even noticed that :)
I have some PNGs that I had done for other sites, so I just uploaded one as a test to see how it goes.
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Yes I uploaded a png as well to "try it out". But I am curious about the questions I asked....although it sounds like the question about whether this is new has been answered.
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As the person who posts a lot about stock industry and company news, it must be new if Jo Ann didn’t know about it!
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Is it comes under Photos or Illustrations?
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Thanks for the post. Yes, we are actively seeking PNG files with transparent backgrounds at Adobe Stock. The basic specs are available in the contributor portal as mentioned above in this thread. This is early days for the CFC. We are in the process of building out a learn and support page with much more detailed information. I will share the link here when it's ready this week. I can answer questions for you here in this thread until then.
To start with the question about photos or illustrations selection when uploading PNG files? If it is a photo with a transparent background, select photo. If it's an illustration with a transparent background, select illustration.
As mentioned, this is early days which those of you who have been around a long time should know and understand that equates to big opportunity. Getting quality PNG files with transparent backgrounds integrated into search in the beginning can result in long term, ideal search placement so I recommend you get started uploading right away!
I'll be watching for your questions,
Mat Hayward
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Mat, should we attach any special keywords to png files we upload (e.g. "png")?
Will buyers be able to explicitly search for png files?
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Matt, should we attach any special keywords to png files we upload (e.g. "png")?
Will buyers be able to explicitly search for png files?
I would add "transparent" as a keyword. No need to add the file type. This will be in a filter customers can use.
Thanks for the question,
Mat
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Hello Mat, question, if I already have an approved photo in my portfolio that is jpg, can I upload the same photo in a png version with a transparent background?
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Hello Mat, question, if I already have an approved photo in my portfolio that is jpg, can I upload the same photo in a png version with a transparent background?
Yes, as long as you have isolated the object in the image and added transparency to the PNG. Do not simply convert a jpg to png and upload a duplicate file in an alternate format.
Thanks for the question,
Mat Hayward
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I know a lot of customers/clients have been asking for the feature for quite a while. So great its been finally offered. No doubt that other MS sites are going to try and add this feature. Not sure why they never thought of doing this before.
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I know a lot of customers/clients have been asking for the feature for quite a while. So great its been finally offered. No doubt that other MS sites are going to try and add this feature. Not sure why they never thought of doing this before.
I'm not sure what you mean. Offering PNGs to customers is not a new idea; Dreamstime has allowed them for years as one of the additional file formats that can be uploaded. Haven't other agencies as well?
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So the first of my PNG files was approved this morning, but it's puzzling that while it shows as PNG for the format when viewed from the contributor side of the site, when I do a keyword search on the buyer side, the file type shows as JPEG, so while it might get purchased anyway, the reason for uploading it (and arguably a large part of the value to a buyer) is invisible.
Is this just a temporary glitch?
If Mat wants to take a look, the file number is 521901724
Another rather odd anomaly. I had two PNG files approved this morning, both illustrations (I have uploaded some isolated photos too, but those are still in the queue), both of which appear on the buyer side as JPEGs.
If I turn on the "isolated" checkbox in a search, the umbrella image (521901724) shows in a search but the wildflowers in a vase (522096417) does not.
It's not keywords as the wildflowers in a vase has the isolated keyword and umbrellas does not (both have the transparent keyword). I can't see any obvious reason these two PNGs would behave differently in a search
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So the first of my PNG files was approved this morning, but it's puzzling that while it shows as PNG for the format when viewed from the contributor side of the site, when I do a keyword search on the buyer side, the file type shows as JPEG, so while it might get purchased anyway, the reason for uploading it (and arguably a large part of the value to a buyer) is invisible.
Is this just a temporary glitch?
If Mat wants to take a look, the file number is 521901724
Another rather odd anomaly. I had two PNG files approved this morning, both illustrations (I have uploaded some isolated photos too, but those are still in the queue), both of which appear on the buyer side as JPEGs.
If I turn on the "isolated" checkbox in a search, the umbrella image (521901724) shows in a search but the wildflowers in a vase (522096417) does not.
It's not keywords as the wildflowers in a vase has the isolated keyword and umbrellas does not (both have the transparent keyword). I can't see any obvious reason these two PNGs would behave differently in a search
Thanks for the report, Jo Ann,
This isn't a glitch per se, nor does it fall into the "it's not a bug, it's a feature" category. We are in an early phase to gather content before the product is made available to the public. Currently, as you noted, PNG uploads appear as JPG images in public facing search, and they are displayed as PNG files in the contributor portal.
Once this phase is complete, the switch will be flipped and the files uploaded now as PNG will be available as PNG downloads (and JPG downloads fyi) in the public facing site. I don't have an exact date for that but I expect it will be within the next couple of months.
As far as the search result variation, I'll need to look into that further.
Thanks again,
Mat Hayward
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...This is early days for the CFC...
What is the CFC?
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...This is early days for the CFC...
What is the CFC?
CFC = Call For Content
In this case, the content we are calling for are PNG files with transparent backgrounds.
Thanks!
Mat
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So I did some cut outs (PNG) files for other sites, but for Adobe I put cut-out on white background (Adobe wasn't accepting PNG files at the time) and uploaded it as jpeg file. If I understand correctly, it's OK for me to upload this same image now as PNG file (with transparent background) since now there will be two identical images, one as jpeg, and one as PNG (with transparent background)?
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So I did some cut outs (PNG) files for other sites, but for Adobe I put cut-out on white background (Adobe wasn't accepting PNG files at the time) and uploaded it as jpeg file. If I understand correctly, it's OK for me to upload this same image now as PNG file (with transparent background) since now there will be two identical images, one as jpeg, and one as PNG (with transparent background)?
Yes, this is fine for isolated content that is already online in your portfolio. Do not continue to upload JPG and PNG submissions of the same images moving forward however. Stick to only the PNG as those will be available for JPG download to customers that prefer those.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
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Hello. How will PNG files with white objects be displayed? For example snowflakes.
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From where in the adobe stock search can I filter just png content?
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From where in the adobe stock search can I filter just png content?
The feature is not availalble yet. We are building the collection right now so when the feature is released there will be a robust selection available.
-Mat Hayward
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Hello. How will PNG files with white objects be displayed? For example snowflakes.
Content will not be differentiated based on color. The background will be white.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
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Hello. How will PNG files with white objects be displayed? For example snowflakes.
Content will not be differentiated based on color. The background will be white.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
Mat, a suggestion. It might be more useful or user friendly if the transparent background displayed as a grey checkerboard, similar to the way Photoshop would show "transparency".
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Hello. How will PNG files with white objects be displayed? For example snowflakes.
Content will not be differentiated based on color. The background will be white.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
Mat, a suggestion. It might be more useful or user friendly if the transparent background displayed as a grey checkerboard, similar to the way Photoshop would show "transparency".
This is a great suggestio and I've just received confirmation that once PNG downloads are live in the customer facing site, the thumbnails will be displayed with checkered backgrounds for the exact reason you noted. This should be complete in plenty of time before snowflakes are trending in sales.
The white backgrounds you see now are in place to help ensure your uploads can be sold as JPG files until the PNG feature is launched.
Thanks for the feedback,
Mat Hayward
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Hello. How will PNG files with white objects be displayed? For example snowflakes.
Content will not be differentiated based on color. The background will be white.
If you look at how Adobe Stock displays 3D content - with a gray background with a perspective grid to show the surface on which the object sits - that approach allows display of everything clearly, both the objects and the transparency. Couldn't something similar to that work for PNGs?
On the Mac, if you view (in the Finder) a PNG file, it has a nice semi-transparent gray background. In Photoshop, you see the checkerboard background to indicate transparency. There are probably other examples already out there.
Seems a shame to obliterate white transparent objects by putting everything in a PNG on a white background...
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Hello. How will PNG files with white objects be displayed? For example snowflakes.
Content will not be differentiated based on color. The background will be white.
If you look at how Adobe Stock displays 3D content - with a gray background with a perspective grid to show the surface on which the object sits - that approach allows display of everything clearly, both the objects and the transparency. Couldn't something similar to that work for PNGs?
On the Mac, if you view (in the Finder) a PNG file, it has a nice semi-transparent gray background. In Photoshop, you see the checkerboard background to indicate transparency. There are probably other examples already out there.
Seems a shame to obliterate white transparent objects by putting everything in a PNG on a white background...
Jo Ann, did you see Mat's response to my post just above yours? Apparently they will have a Photoshop style checkerboard for the transparent background.
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Jo Ann, did you see Mat's response to my post just above yours? Apparently they will have a Photoshop style checkerboard for the transparent background.
Oops - missed that. But it's great news it will show transparency
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Jo Ann, did you see Mat's response to my post just above yours? Apparently they will have a Photoshop style checkerboard for the transparent background.
Oops - missed that. But it's great news it will show transparency
Yes, it should work out well. I confirmed the decision to use white backgrounds on the JPG files now was intentional. Isolated objects on white backgrounds tend to sell better than they do on gray backgrounds.
Mat
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I haven't submitted there in a while, but when I used to submit PNGs with a transparent background to Canva they wanted a jpeg of the file with the metadata. Not sure if they still do that. Is there a way to include metadata with a PNG or will it need to be added manually? If I understand this thread correctly, we can now go ahead and submit those PNGs to Adobe even if the jpeg was accepted long ago, but in the future should only submit the PNG and it will be converted to jpeg. If that is the case then I have quite a few PNGs that could be submitted right away. I got into Canva pretty early and am glad I did because I make more there than anywhere else. I assume Adobe wants a piece of that action which will be a good move for them.
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If you save the PNG from Photoshop (and your metadata is entered there), it is preserved. You need to use the Save a Copy feature, not Export As (which only preserves some metadata when you tell it to include metadata).
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Thank you for your answers and suggestions.
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If you save the PNG from Photoshop (and your metadata is entered there), it is preserved. You need to use the Save a Copy feature, not Export As (which only preserves some metadata when you tell it to include metadata).
OK, thanks. I thought I did it that way and it didn't work - will try uploading a few and will see what happens.
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Hi Matt, I’m uploading PNGs through lightroom but they are showing up as jpegs on the contributor portal, should I not use the lightroom uploader for PNG files? Thanks
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Jo Ann, did you see Mat's response to my post just above yours? Apparently they will have a Photoshop style checkerboard for the transparent background.
Oops - missed that. But it's great news it will show transparency
Yes, it should work out well. I confirmed the decision to use white backgrounds on the JPG files now was intentional. Isolated objects on white backgrounds tend to sell better than they do on gray backgrounds.
Mat
As the contributor, I am interested: will the price for PNG be higher than the price for JPG? Will we get more for PNG?
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Hi Matt, I’m uploading PNGs through lightroom but they are showing up as jpegs on the contributor portal, should I not use the lightroom uploader for PNG files? Thanks
This is a good question. If you see JPEG under the recent upload in the dashboard section then no, should not use LRC to upload the PNG. I'm not 100% on this, but I have a strong suspicion this will be the case. Try uploading direct in the portal to see the difference in the dashboard. Thanks for this question. If I learn differently, I'll be sure to update here.
-Mat Hayward
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Jo Ann, did you see Mat's response to my post just above yours? Apparently they will have a Photoshop style checkerboard for the transparent background.
Oops - missed that. But it's great news it will show transparency
Yes, it should work out well. I confirmed the decision to use white backgrounds on the JPG files now was intentional. Isolated objects on white backgrounds tend to sell better than they do on gray backgrounds.
Mat
As the contributor, I am interested: will the price for PNG be higher than the price for JPG? Will we get more for PNG?
The price and royalty structure remains the same for all images regardless of file type. Thanks for the question.
Mat Hayward
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Thanks for the updates on the new feature Mat...but it is Saturday... surely you're allowed to take a break from work?!?! I think you've earned a pint or two... ;D
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Hello Mat, would it be possible (at some point) to implement a fix so that we can upload our existing jpegs along with PNGs for the purpose of automatically generating the IPTC info of the files?
Although I see the PNG uploads as a good opportunity, adding metadata manually to 5000+ PNG illustrations feels like an impossible task.
edit: btw, I am going to generate the PNGs from existing EPS files automatically and my existing EPS files don't have any metadata. Even if I batch export (from EPS to PNG) I would first need to manually add metadata to all my EPS files.
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I got into Canva pretty early and am glad I did because I make more there than anywhere else.
Yep, same here.
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Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?
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I got into Canva pretty early and am glad I did because I make more there than anywhere else.
Yep, same here. Canva is close to my SS sales each month and about 3x AS
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Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?
That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.
I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.
Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?
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Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?
That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.
I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.
Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?
For now, these files are only available as JPG on the customer facing site. Once the feature is launched, they can download PNG files.
Thank you for the feedback,
Mat
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I have question Mat
I have already uploaded many vector files , Is it possible to upload them again in PNG with the same title and keywords ?
I suggest that we be allowed to upload a single Zip file that contains Ai, EPS , JPG and also PNG
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Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?
That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.
I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.
Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?
For now, these files are only available as JPG on the customer facing site. Once the feature is launched, they can download PNG files.
Thank you for the feedback,
Mat
Thanks for this... noticed that they were showing as jpg on the customer side but PNG on my portfolio.
I presume this won't have a negative impact on the actual jpgs files that exist already. It wouldn't be ideal if the jpgs to competed with the already established successful files. Do we have an approx time scale in terms of when the PNG service will be activated?
Thanks
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I have a few hundred object isolations in my portfolio so I did a couple of tests. The PNG renditions from my photoshop/raw files yielded tiff sized results. I had to reduce image size a bit to get them below 45 megs. Reworked jpeg results were far smaller - about 5 megs. Is higher res/less compression a selling point for the PNGs? If so will 45 megs remain the limit?
Overall it would take quite a bit of effort to rework a few hundred files. (I tend to polish as I go.) I'm wondering if it will be worth the time. If so.. I'd like to get started.
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Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?
That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.
I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.
Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?
For now, these files are only available as JPG on the customer facing site. Once the feature is launched, they can download PNG files.
Thank you for the feedback,
Mat
But why are they advertised as transparent to customers?
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Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?
That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.
I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.
Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?
For now, these files are only available as JPG on the customer facing site. Once the feature is launched, they can download PNG files.
Thank you for the feedback,
Mat
But why are they advertised as transparent to customers?
I'm not sure what you mean. This feature is not launched for customers yet. There is no need to put the word "transparent" in your title or keywords if that is what you mean. PNG files with transparent backgrounds will be automatically identified by us and will surface in the correct, filtered searches.
-Mat Hayward
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There is no need to put the word "transparent" in your title or keywords if that is what you mean.
No, that's not what I mean. It's not me. It's Adobe that automatically puts the word "transparent" into the keywords when uploading a png. Sure, I could remove the keyword again, but apparently Adobe seems to think it should be there and since - once the feature is actually launched - I want people to actually find my pngs I don't see why I should remove this relevant keyword after Adobe added it. But as of now that means that Adobe automatically adds the keyword "transparent" to images that, at least for now, are not transparent. And that's very misleading to customers.
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I have a few hundred object isolations in my portfolio so I did a couple of tests. The PNG renditions from my photoshop/raw files yielded tiff sized results. I had to reduce image size a bit to get them below 45 megs. Reworked jpeg results were far smaller - about 5 megs. Is higher res/less compression a selling point for the PNGs? If so will 45 megs remain the limit?
Overall it would take quite a bit of effort to rework a few hundred files. (I tend to polish as I go.) I'm wondering if it will be worth the time. If so.. I'd like to get started.
In Photoshop when you save as PNG, it should give you the options of "large", "medium" or "small" file size at the expense of the time it takes to encode the image. My understanding is PNGs use lossless compression for all three file size options (look it up to be sure).
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I have a few hundred object isolations in my portfolio so I did a couple of tests. The PNG renditions from my photoshop/raw files yielded tiff sized results. I had to reduce image size a bit to get them below 45 megs. Reworked jpeg results were far smaller - about 5 megs. Is higher res/less compression a selling point for the PNGs? If so will 45 megs remain the limit?
Overall it would take quite a bit of effort to rework a few hundred files. (I tend to polish as I go.) I'm wondering if it will be worth the time. If so.. I'd like to get started.
In Photoshop when you save as PNG, it should give you the options of "large", "medium" or "small" file size at the expense of the time it takes to encode the image. My understanding is PNGs use lossless compression for all three file size options (look it up to be sure).
I tried those buttons. The resulting file sizes were the same. Odd.
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Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?
That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.
I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.
Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?
For now, these files are only available as JPG on the customer facing site. Once the feature is launched, they can download PNG files.
Thank you for the feedback,
Mat
But why are they advertised as transparent to customers?
I'm not sure what you mean. This feature is not launched for customers yet. There is no need to put the word "transparent" in your title or keywords if that is what you mean. PNG files with transparent backgrounds will be automatically identified by us and will surface in the correct, filtered searches.
-Mat Hayward
Sorry, Mat, but you wrote this on the first page of this thread:
„ I would add "transparent" as a keyword. No need to add the file type. This will be in a filter customers can use.
Thanks for the question,
Mat“
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There is no need to put the word "transparent" in your title or keywords if that is what you mean.
No, that's not what I mean. It's not me. It's Adobe that automatically puts the word "transparent" into the keywords when uploading a png. Sure, I could remove the keyword again, but apparently Adobe seems to think it should be there and since - once the feature is actually launched - I want people to actually find my pngs I don't see why I should remove this relevant keyword after Adobe added it. But as of now that means that Adobe automatically adds the keyword "transparent" to images that, at least for now, are not transparent. And that's very misleading to customers.
No keywords are automatically added. Are you referencing the suggested keywords feature? If so, you must now click to add the suggestions when relevant to your image. Please correct me if I'm missing something.
Thanks,
Mat
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Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?
That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.
I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.
Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?
For now, these files are only available as JPG on the customer facing site. Once the feature is launched, they can download PNG files.
Thank you for the feedback,
Mat
But why are they advertised as transparent to customers?
I'm not sure what you mean. This feature is not launched for customers yet. There is no need to put the word "transparent" in your title or keywords if that is what you mean. PNG files with transparent backgrounds will be automatically identified by us and will surface in the correct, filtered searches.
-Mat Hayward
Sorry, Mat, but you wrote this on the first page of this thread:
„ I would add "transparent" as a keyword. No need to add the file type. This will be in a filter customers can use.
Thanks for the question,
Mat“
Thanks for catching that. That statement was contradicted by my team earlier today who said there was no need to add the keyword. My bad.
-Mat Hayward
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There is no need to put the word "transparent" in your title or keywords if that is what you mean.
No, that's not what I mean. It's not me. It's Adobe that automatically puts the word "transparent" into the keywords when uploading a png. Sure, I could remove the keyword again, but apparently Adobe seems to think it should be there and since - once the feature is actually launched - I want people to actually find my pngs I don't see why I should remove this relevant keyword after Adobe added it. But as of now that means that Adobe automatically adds the keyword "transparent" to images that, at least for now, are not transparent. And that's very misleading to customers.
I've submitted a couple of batches but I think I'll hold off on any more until they're actually ready to go live. My concern is now I've submitted a batch of PNG's that look like jpgs I've already submitted and are successful. The PNG's will drop down the ranking as they may not compete against the established files over the next two months... or, they have a detrimental effect on the jpgs that are selling well. The same way too many similars do.
I think it would be better if they allow us to submit the PNG's and for Adobe to hold off releasing them until they're ready to start the service. That way we can submit the files and customers aren't presented with confusing titles, keywords and files that look the same as existing ones. It should be easy enough for Adobe to hide these from customers based on the png file extension until they're ready to release the service.
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There is no need to put the word "transparent" in your title or keywords if that is what you mean.
No, that's not what I mean. It's not me. It's Adobe that automatically puts the word "transparent" into the keywords when uploading a png. Sure, I could remove the keyword again, but apparently Adobe seems to think it should be there and since - once the feature is actually launched - I want people to actually find my pngs I don't see why I should remove this relevant keyword after Adobe added it. But as of now that means that Adobe automatically adds the keyword "transparent" to images that, at least for now, are not transparent. And that's very misleading to customers.
I've submitted a couple of batches but I think I'll hold off on any more until they're actually ready to go live. My concern is now I've submitted a batch of PNG's that look like jpgs I've already submitted and are successful. The PNG's will drop down the ranking as they may not compete against the established files over the next two months... or, they have a detrimental effect on the jpgs that are selling well. The same way too many similars do.
I think it would be better if they allow us to submit the PNG's and for Adobe to hold off releasing them until they're ready to start the service. That way we can submit the files and customers aren't presented with confusing titles, keywords and files that look the same as existing ones. It should be easy enough for Adobe to hide these from customers based on the png file extension until they're ready to release the service.
Yes, I agree!
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FYI, on Thursday, September 1, I will be hosting a livestream with some members of the Adobe Stock staff. Part of the livestream will be dedicated to providing information and answer questions live about PNG uploads. We will also be discussing the Creative Trend "Centered Self."
The session will happen in Behance Live at 12pm PDT: https://www.behance.net/adobestock/livestreams (https://www.behance.net/adobestock/livestreams)
I'm going to be offline starting this Thursday, through the end of next week. I should have a Learn and Support page link to share with you before the end of day tomorrow with some file specifications. When ready, I'll post that link in this thread.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
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This point may have been raised above, but I noticed that accepted PNG files are currently offered to customers in JPEG format, presumably until the official launch of PNG availability. If the file description states it is '"XYZ" on a transparent background' (because in the PNG file it is), but in fact it is currently offered as JPG, the customer may be confused....because in the JPEG version, there is of course no transparency. Not sure how big an issue this is, but it could turn a customer off to an image or contributor ("why is it stated that the background is transparent when it is not?").
Maybe it would be best to just hold off on any availability until the actual launch where PNGs are available rather than confuse or irritate the customer?
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Exactly. I've just deleted the PNG files I uploaded that already have a high ranking jpgs and I'm going to hold off sending any more files until nearer the release time. By then I'll have a large batch to do at once but rather that than annoying customers or, damaging the ranking of the new / existing files. I wish they would just approve the PNG files but hide all .png extensions until they were ready to launch. At the moment it looks (to the customer) that we have submitted duplicate files and it may well have an adverse effect on ranking if they are ignored.
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I'm in the process of uploading all of my PNG files now and gradually over the next month. Yes, there might be some confusion intially but I believe that getting these files accepted and 'ready to go' is really important. The experience at Canva has shown that these files are incredibly popular with designers and I expect the same to apply at Adobe. It might take a while to become fully estabished but I'll guess that once most customers become aware of the PNG file option sales of those files will take off like wildfire. Equivalent 'isolated on white' files are likely to take a back seat over time. I'm expecting sales of my 'isolated on white' stuff to decline as more and more customers opt for PNG. And given the scarcity of PNG files, at least at the launch, those with PNG files ready to go will benefit. I could be wrong but my gut feel is that this is an excellent move by Adobe and I think we'll all be pleasantly surprised at how sales take off.
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I've just uploaded a small batch of transparent PNG versions of some old vectors. Although I agree the customer shouldn't be confused or misled by temporary jpeg versions of the PNGs, I think getting in early will indeed be beneficial. But the PNG feature launch should be asap to avoid any angry customers.
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Mat, can we be able to upload PNG versions of vectors?
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Hello Lima,
No need to re-upload your vectors as PNG. If your vectors don't have a background and have an artboard/canvas of ~10MP, we'll automatically process a transparent PNG version of them as an option for customers. As we're doing currently when offering JPG's on top of the Vector download. At first this option might only appear for recent vector uploads, we'll process the backlog as we can.
Morgan David de Lossy
PM on Adobe Stock
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GREAT! Thankyou Morgan
Hello Lima,
No need to re-upload your vectors as PNG. If your vectors don't have a background and have an artboard/canvas of ~10MP, we'll automatically process a transparent PNG version of them as an option for customers. As we're doing currently when offering JPG's on top of the Vector download. At first this option might only appear for recent vector uploads, we'll process the backlog as we can.
Morgan David de Lossy
PM on Adobe Stock
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Hello Lima,
No need to re-upload your vectors as PNG. If your vectors don't have a background and have an artboard/canvas of ~10MP, we'll automatically process a transparent PNG version of them as an option for customers. As we're doing currently when offering JPG's on top of the Vector download. At first this option might only appear for recent vector uploads, we'll process the backlog as we can.
Morgan David de Lossy
PM on Adobe Stock
Oh okay.
Will these PNGs be listed separately when the buyer filters them in search, or will they be displayed as an option in the vector listing?
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finally good news again. I have an isolated version with a transparent background for each rendering. I just have to save it as a PNG file. This will certainly soon be possible with other agencies as well. Saw it at indivstock. But it will certainly become a competitor for vector graphics.
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But it will certainly become a competitor for vector graphics.
I disagree, vectors will always be more versatile and editable than a raster image.
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Hello Lima,
No need to re-upload your vectors as PNG. If your vectors don't have a background and have an artboard/canvas of ~10MP, we'll automatically process a transparent PNG version of them as an option for customers. As we're doing currently when offering JPG's on top of the Vector download. At first this option might only appear for recent vector uploads, we'll process the backlog as we can.
Morgan David de Lossy
PM on Adobe Stock
Oh okay.
Will these PNGs be listed separately when the buyer filters them in search, or will they be displayed as an option in the vector listing?
Both. Customers will be able to filter by transparent assets. If your original vector had no background in the back, then it will automatically be available in both '1' be displayed when customers filter for transparent assets and '2' be available for 3 possible downloadable assets types: the vector, the PNG, the flattened jpg. (even when customers find them outside of filtering.
Something we'll have to deal with in the future is the flattened jpg option, as you can imagine, white snowflakes flattened on white backgrounds won't get much success. Which is the issue with our current implementation as we ramp up acquisition of transparent assets (PNG's). But we're working on a fix which should hit before customers start needing them. Thanks for working with us on this new opportunity. New ideas > new problems > new solutions > new market for everyone. Please keep the feedback coming! Thx.
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But it will certainly become a competitor for vector graphics.
I disagree, vectors will always be more versatile and editable than a raster image.
Indeed, if your vector is setup in a way that we can automatically offer different download options from it. (Artboard >10MP and no background) Then the best way for you is to only upload the vector, we'll take care of marking these assets as available for Transparent PNG downloads automatically.
Morgan David de Lossy
Product Manager on Adobe Stock
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Hello Lima,
No need to re-upload your vectors as PNG. If your vectors don't have a background and have an artboard/canvas of ~10MP, we'll automatically process a transparent PNG version of them as an option for customers. As we're doing currently when offering JPG's on top of the Vector download. At first this option might only appear for recent vector uploads, we'll process the backlog as we can.
Morgan David de Lossy
PM on Adobe Stock
What happens if I was uploading vectors with artboards in sizes like 2400 x 2300? Do I recreate and save as a PNG or what's going to happen. Will I get dinged somehow for having a file as a vector and as a PNG?
Interesting move forward, I don't know if I'll just add new and leave the old as they are, but I'm still interested in how you are handling these updates.
Thank You
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Not sure why PNG files we have uploaded and have been accepted are being sold as JPGs until the official launch. A customer may download a file that says it has a transparent background (as a PNG), but in fact they get a JPG that does not have a transparent background until the official launch. Not good for the reputation of the contributor nor Adobestock. Why not let these be downloaded as PNG's from the "get-go"?...would that really harm the launch?...there is no great secret here, competitors know that Adobestock will in fact be offering PNGs, so why the holdback of the files as a PNG? It would be better at least if the files were just not customer visible until the launch instead of misleading the customer who thinks they are getting a PNG but in fact get a JPG.
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Not sure why PNG files we have uploaded and have been accepted are being sold as JPGs until the official launch. A customer may download a file that says it has a transparent background (as a PNG), but in fact they get a JPG that does not have a transparent background until the official launch. Not good for the reputation of the contributor nor Adobestock. Why not let these be downloaded as PNG's from the "get-go"?...would that really harm the launch?...there is no great secret here, competitors know that Adobestock will in fact be offering PNGs, so why the holdback of the files as a PNG? It would be better at least if the files were just not customer visible until the launch instead of misleading the customer who thinks they are getting a PNG but in fact get a JPG.
Good point, but as a rule of thumb I recommend avoiding mentioning the file type or transparency in the title, it's not best practice. These create more noise than benefits, and as you mention, they can lead to customer issues.
It is safer to rely on filters and other browsing options. Your transparent PNG is automatically detected and flagged as such and will be displayed in the given sections when we open them.
For new asset types, and the very case of the PNG launch that we're working on with you, a critical mass is needed across search queries in order to meet customer satisfaction.
The decision to sell them straight away as jpg's was made to ensure contributors would be able to generate revenue from their work without waiting for us to open NPG downloads. Going the other way would not have been fair on our end and might have hurt our sourcing ability.
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Hello Lima,
No need to re-upload your vectors as PNG. If your vectors don't have a background and have an artboard/canvas of ~10MP, we'll automatically process a transparent PNG version of them as an option for customers. As we're doing currently when offering JPG's on top of the Vector download. At first this option might only appear for recent vector uploads, we'll process the backlog as we can.
Morgan David de Lossy
PM on Adobe Stock
What happens if I was uploading vectors with artboards in sizes like 2400 x 2300? Do I recreate and save as a PNG or what's going to happen. Will I get dinged somehow for having a file as a vector and as a PNG?
Interesting move forward, I don't know if I'll just add new and leave the old as they are, but I'm still interested in how you are handling these updates.
Thank You
Hello Uncle Pete, The ~10MP is mostly a recommendation (I talk too fast, I lack Mat's experience. Most vectors convert well regardless of their artboard. The 10MP recommendation is to solve some rare use cases as issues come from small artboard vectors with occasional rasterized layers generated when a contributor converts it's vector to EPS. We'll be updating the HelpX page for vectors best practices soon. I'll post it here when it's live.
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For new asset types, and the very case of the PNG launch that we're working on with you, a critical mass is needed across search queries in order to meet customer satisfaction.
I very much doubt that any form of critical mass can be achieved for PNG files at launch (I am referring to photos rather than illustrations). In the twenty years of microstock none of the major agencies have accepted or sought PNG files so photographers won't have produced them and won't have a library for upload. The exception is Canva who starting asking for PNG files a few years ago. Some photographers (I am one of them) have spent time producing PNG files for Canva and have met with great success. However I imagine that the number of artists producing these is quite small.
I think this is a case of starting small and growing rather than looking for critical mass on day one. Customers will understand that sometimes new ideas take a while to get going. Now that the cat is out of the bag (Shutterstock and Istock read these forums) what's important is that Adobe hits the ground running and gets the service off the ground even if the initial supply is modest.
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Regarding keywords, what is the latest recommendation on keywords such as "transparent", "transparency" etc. Should they be included or not for PNG files?
Thanks!
As a side note to contributors. It seems when you save a file in Photoshop as a PNG "copy", you must explicitly tell PS to include the color profile by checking a box in the save copy dialog....otherwise it will save the file untagged regarding color space.
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Hello Lima,
No need to re-upload your vectors as PNG. If your vectors don't have a background and have an artboard/canvas of ~10MP, we'll automatically process a transparent PNG version of them as an option for customers. As we're doing currently when offering JPG's on top of the Vector download. At first this option might only appear for recent vector uploads, we'll process the backlog as we can.
Morgan David de Lossy
PM on Adobe Stock
What happens if I was uploading vectors with artboards in sizes like 2400 x 2300? Do I recreate and save as a PNG or what's going to happen. Will I get dinged somehow for having a file as a vector and as a PNG?
Interesting move forward, I don't know if I'll just add new and leave the old as they are, but I'm still interested in how you are handling these updates.
Thank You
Hello Uncle Pete, The ~10MP is mostly a recommendation (I talk too fast, I lack Mat's experience. Most vectors convert well regardless of their artboard. The 10MP recommendation is to solve some rare use cases as issues come from small artboard vectors with occasional rasterized layers generated when a contributor converts it's vector to EPS. We'll be updating the HelpX page for vectors best practices soon. I'll post it here when it's live.
Yes, I think the point is, mine aren't 10MP and in the future they should be. I can adapt. EPS Uploads - "Minimum artboard resolution: 4MP" I just wondered how that effects everyone's old files.
Welcome!
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Any news on when the PNG service is likely to go live?
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Any news on when the PNG service is likely to go live?
...or even when we will find out when it will go live?
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Not sure why PNG files we have uploaded and have been accepted are being sold as JPGs until the official launch. A customer may download a file that says it has a transparent background (as a PNG), but in fact they get a JPG that does not have a transparent background until the official launch. Not good for the reputation of the contributor nor Adobestock. Why not let these be downloaded as PNG's from the "get-go"?...would that really harm the launch?...there is no great secret here, competitors know that Adobestock will in fact be offering PNGs, so why the holdback of the files as a PNG? It would be better at least if the files were just not customer visible until the launch instead of misleading the customer who thinks they are getting a PNG but in fact get a JPG.
Good point, but as a rule of thumb I recommend avoiding mentioning the file type or transparency in the title, it's not best practice. These create more noise than benefits, and as you mention, they can lead to customer issues.
It is safer to rely on filters and other browsing options. Your transparent PNG is automatically detected and flagged as such and will be displayed in the given sections when we open them.
For new asset types, and the very case of the PNG launch that we're working on with you, a critical mass is needed across search queries in order to meet customer satisfaction.
The decision to sell them straight away as jpg's was made to ensure contributors would be able to generate revenue from their work without waiting for us to open NPG downloads. Going the other way would not have been fair on our end and might have hurt our sourcing ability.
Hi:
3 questions:
1 - I had 30 png files accepted prepared after initially reading the early discussion here so I put transparent as suggested by the AI and png in all the keywords and some titles. Do you recommend I go back and edit these ASAP?
2 - Although the Christmas leaderboards and other illustrations accepted as png files work with added white backgrounds, if downloaded by non-designer clients as jpgs, they might prefer red or green backgrounds. Should I include a version with colored backgrounds as a jpg file in those instances or will it confuse things?
3 - I did a search for "Christmas ornaments transparent png" today and thousands of files showed up - some showing the grey and white checkerboard and some a white background - the descriptions of those files all included png - so I'm confused - has the png launched or not? And if not, I'm assuming this will launch in time for holiday downloads since I've started with holiday illustrations (non-vector - I use PS) and want to be sure they'll be online as png files in time.
Thanks!
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Not sure why PNG files we have uploaded and have been accepted are being sold as JPGs until the official launch. A customer may download a file that says it has a transparent background (as a PNG), but in fact they get a JPG that does not have a transparent background until the official launch. Not good for the reputation of the contributor nor Adobestock. Why not let these be downloaded as PNG's from the "get-go"?...would that really harm the launch?...there is no great secret here, competitors know that Adobestock will in fact be offering PNGs, so why the holdback of the files as a PNG? It would be better at least if the files were just not customer visible until the launch instead of misleading the customer who thinks they are getting a PNG but in fact get a JPG.
Good point, but as a rule of thumb I recommend avoiding mentioning the file type or transparency in the title, it's not best practice. These create more noise than benefits, and as you mention, they can lead to customer issues.
It is safer to rely on filters and other browsing options. Your transparent PNG is automatically detected and flagged as such and will be displayed in the given sections when we open them.
For new asset types, and the very case of the PNG launch that we're working on with you, a critical mass is needed across search queries in order to meet customer satisfaction.
The decision to sell them straight away as jpg's was made to ensure contributors would be able to generate revenue from their work without waiting for us to open NPG downloads. Going the other way would not have been fair on our end and might have hurt our sourcing ability.
Hi:
3 questions:
1 - I had 30 png files accepted prepared after initially reading the early discussion here so I put transparent as suggested by the AI and png in all the keywords and some titles. Do you recommend I go back and edit these ASAP?
2 - Although the Christmas leaderboards and other illustrations accepted as png files work with added white backgrounds, if downloaded by non-designer clients as jpgs, they might prefer red or green backgrounds. Should I include a version with colored backgrounds as a jpg file in those instances or will it confuse things?
3 - I did a search for "Christmas ornaments transparent png" today and thousands of files showed up - some showing the grey and white checkerboard and some a white background - the descriptions of those files all included png - so I'm confused - has the png launched or not? And if not, I'm assuming this will launch in time for holiday downloads since I've started with holiday illustrations (non-vector - I use PS) and want to be sure they'll be online as png files in time.
Thanks!
Hi All,
It's unlikely I will be announcing the launch date in advance. I will however, let you know the moment the feature is live.
No need to edit your files and remove the extra keywords. No real harm in having them there that I can think of.
No, I do not recommend you upload duplicate copies of the same files in jpg format, even with the background color changed.
The files you referenced that appear in search are almost certainly JPG files or Vectors (or files from this new wave of actual PNG uploads) that incorrectly have "PNG" in the title and/or keywords.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
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I see this blue ribbon on my dashboard. We don't accept PNG's file with transparent background. I don't undesrtand!
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Mat, have few questions. I uploaded few of my best sellers that were isolated on white as png files with transparent background and they got accepted.
New accepted files are still jpegs and they look like they have white background that can be interpreted that I have double files, already sold one of them.
Can contributor get in trouble because of that?
to try to answer alexandersr, my blue ribbon says we NOW accept transparent PNG ("now", not "no")
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Mat, have few questions. I uploaded few of my best sellers that were isolated on white as png files with transparent background and they got accepted.
New accepted files are still jpegs and they look like they have white background that can be interpreted that I have double files, already sold one of them.
Can contributor get in trouble because of that?
to try to answer alexandersr, my blue ribbon says we NOW accept transparent PNG ("now", not "no")
No, you won't get into trouble for this. It's only temporary until we unlock PNG downloads to customers. If, for some reason you are flagged somehow feel free to contact me directly to help resolve any potential issues.
I will look into the translation issue raised by alexandersr. Please disregard any message claiming we do not accept PNG files.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
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Thanks for all the info Mat!
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Mat, have few questions. I uploaded few of my best sellers that were isolated on white as png files with transparent background and they got accepted.
New accepted files are still jpegs and they look like they have white background that can be interpreted that I have double files, already sold one of them.
Can contributor get in trouble because of that?
to try to answer alexandersr, my blue ribbon says we NOW accept transparent PNG ("now", not "no")
No, you won't get into trouble for this. It's only temporary until we unlock PNG downloads to customers. If, for some reason you are flagged somehow feel free to contact me directly to help resolve any potential issues.
I will look into the translation issue raised by alexandersr. Please disregard any message claiming we do not accept PNG files.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
Hi Mat ,
From this, I understand that I can re-upload my vectors as PNG ? that's correct ?
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I am very excited about PNG files being available at Adobe given the great success with them at Canva. When Mat made the anouncement I decided to upload all of my files over the course of three weeks or so (500 files). Glad to see that were almost all accepted. However as the service has not yet gone live I am becoming concerned that I have done the wrong thing and perhaps should have waited. As the days go by I become concerned that my files will get lost in searches. Hopefully that won't happen and fingers crossed the service goes live soon. I am debating whether to delete and reupload once the thing goes live.
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Hola Alexander, yo tambien lo veia asi hace unos dias, al parecer ya lo corrigieron ;-)
I see this blue ribbon on my dashboard. We don't accept PNG's file with transparent background. I don't undesrtand!
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Can we also upload illustrative editorial?
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Can we also upload illustrative editorial?
Thanks for the question. Yes, you can submit PNG files with transparent backgrounds for Illustrative Editorial consideration.
-Mat Hayward
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Good to hear, thank you.
Can you also submit images with inside transparency, like a beautifully decorated frame of fresh flowers, or food with a large transparency in the center of the image?
Like a frame?
Or Polaroid cut outs with empty spaces to drop your own fotos inside etc,,,,
Or does it always have to be a single object you can grab?
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Any news on when the PNG file service will go live?
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Good to hear, thank you.
Can you also submit images with inside transparency, like a beautifully decorated frame of fresh flowers, or food with a large transparency in the center of the image?
Like a frame?
Or Polaroid cut outs with empty spaces to drop your own fotos inside etc,,,,
Or does it always have to be a single object you can grab?
Cobalt, I have uploaded and had accepted PNG frame files like you describe.
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Thank you! That is useful information :)
(issue resolved)
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Is there anyway to crop and save a PNG file so it has no transparent container/box(like a circle is just a circle, not a circle inside a transparent box)?
I'm trying to use PNGs as web buttons and the transparent box surrounding the image is being registered. If I create a link it will be active as soon the cursor hits a transparent area of the container, before it hits the actual graphic I want to use as a button.
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Is that a problem?
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Is there anyway to crop and save a PNG file so it has no transparent container/box(like a circle is just a circle, not a circle inside a transparent box)?
I'm trying to use PNGs as web buttons and the transparent box surrounding the image is being registered. If I create a link it will be active as soon the cursor hits a transparent area of the container, before it hits the actual graphic I want to use as a button.
Photoshop has a Trim option, so any excess space around the object can be trimmed.
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Heads up! PNG downloads are now available on the Adobe Stock customer facing site. Thanks to all of you who have submitted this content to make it happen. Keep it coming!
Without you, there is no us.
-Mat Hayward
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Heads up! PNG downloads are now available on the Adobe Stock customer facing site. Thanks to all of you who have submitted this content to make it happen. Keep it coming!
Without you, there is no us.
-Mat Hayward
Great news! Is there a way for the customer to explicitly search for PNG's?
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Heads up! PNG downloads are now available on the Adobe Stock customer facing site. Thanks to all of you who have submitted this content to make it happen. Keep it coming!
Without you, there is no us.
-Mat Hayward
Can I upload again my best sale vectors as PNG ?
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If I want to direct interested people to the png collection on Adobe, what link do I give them?
Or should they just search for "png"?
Will we get feedback in our stats if the customer downloaded png or jpg? That could be really helpful to see what customers prefer.
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I agree that it would be great for contributors to see how many PNG vs JPEG downloads there were for relevant items.
There is a new way to search - a filter called Background where you can pick All, Transparent or Isolated Assets. If you click the helpful information icon you see an explanation of isolated vs. transparent (bonus points to Adobe for choosing two adorable dogs to illustrate)
If I give someone a portfolio link, they can't filter by transparency (just images, video, 3D, etc.) but the PNG uploads show with a checkerboard background which is great.
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I agree that it would be great for contributors to see how many PNG vs JPEG downloads there were for relevant items.
There is a new way to search - a filter called Background where you can pick All, Transparent or Isolated Assets. If you click the helpful information icon you see an explanation of isolated vs. transparent (bonus points to Adobe for choosing two adorable dogs to illustrate)
If I give someone a portfolio link, they can't filter by transparency (just images, video, 3D, etc.) but the PNG uploads show with a checkerboard background which is great.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks Jo Ann!
-Mat
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Ok, I found it! Thank you very much Jo Ann!
Now I can send a screenshot for those interested.
ETA:
Just discovered there is the option to select content from local artists. That is a great feature! If I want a German apple cake and not an american looking apple pie, this should really help.
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Sold one! :)
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Mat, how will buying customers (and potential customers) find out about this new service? Will Adobe make an announcement somehow, such as a newsletter?
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@Mat
It would be great if we could upload PNG and JPG and EPS in only one Zip file . This makes it easier for us to work
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I agree that it would be great for contributors to see how many PNG vs JPEG downloads there were for relevant items.
There is a new way to search - a filter called Background where you can pick All, Transparent or Isolated Assets. If you click the helpful information icon you see an explanation of isolated vs. transparent (bonus points to Adobe for choosing two adorable dogs to illustrate)
If I give someone a portfolio link, they can't filter by transparency (just images, video, 3D, etc.) but the PNG uploads show with a checkerboard background which is great.
This is nice, but does the average customer even know about this search feature? Would it make more sense to promote PNGs in a more upfront way?
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Mat, how will buying customers (and potential customers) find out about this new service? Will Adobe make an announcement somehow, such as a newsletter?
There is an amazing team focused on marketing at Adobe. Stay tuned....
-Mat
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Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
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Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
Can I ask what size of artboard do you use for the file to be available as PNG? I suppose there is some minimum size?
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Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
Can I ask what size of artboard do you use for the file to be available as PNG? I suppose there is some minimum size?
5927 X 4000 or 5000 X 5000 in both JPG and EPS
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Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
Can I ask what size of artboard do you use for the file to be available as PNG? I suppose there is some minimum size?
5927 X 4000 or 5000 X 5000 in both JPG and EPS
Thank you very much. I typically have smaller artboard so I must change my routine now.
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Have to say, so far not knocking my socks off in terms of additional sales. Hopefully when the marketing kicks in that will change.
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Did we make the wrong decision uploading early? Sales already trailing off for the first pngs I uploaded (got some sales of the jpegs). I assume rather than getting a “first mover advantage” (as it was sold) older images are just going to be buried in the searches/ old news by the time sales start in earnest (assuming they do).
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Did we make the wrong decision uploading early? Sales already trailing off for the first pngs I uploaded (got some sales of the jpegs). I assume rather than getting a “first mover advantage” (as it was sold) older images are just going to be buried in the searches/ old news by the time sales start in earnest (assuming they do).
Hopefully customers "just don't know about" png's being available yet. Time will tell.
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Maybe they will announce it at Adobe Max (next week)? So we won't wait too long to see if it was worth it.
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Took me a while, but you can select ALL, Transparent or Isolated
(https://i.postimg.cc/R0DR8B8h/Adobe-Background.jpg)
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Have to say, so far not knocking my socks off in terms of additional sales. Hopefully when the marketing kicks in that will change.
No, it wasn't a mistake. It was a solid move. This is very early days so I would strongly encourage you to remain patient.
thanks,
Mat Hayward
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Have to say, so far not knocking my socks off in terms of additional sales. Hopefully when the marketing kicks in that will change.
No, it wasn't a mistake. It was a solid move. This is very early days so I would strongly encourage you to remain patient.
thanks,
Mat Hayward
Indeed but selling very well already. I created a collection within AS to monitor sales and already notched around 250 sales so far.
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Have to say, so far not knocking my socks off in terms of additional sales. Hopefully when the marketing kicks in that will change.
No, it wasn't a mistake. It was a solid move. This is very early days so I would strongly encourage you to remain patient.
thanks,
Mat Hayward
Indeed but selling very well already. I created a collection within AS to monitor sales and already notched around 250 sales so far.
I made a collection, but is there anyway to see the stats on it without just counting downloads up?
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Have to say, so far not knocking my socks off in terms of additional sales. Hopefully when the marketing kicks in that will change.
No, it wasn't a mistake. It was a solid move. This is very early days so I would strongly encourage you to remain patient.
thanks,
Mat Hayward
Indeed but selling very well already. I created a collection within AS to monitor sales and already notched around 250 sales so far.
I made a collection, but is there anyway to see the stats on it without just counting downloads up?
Unfortunately, no.
-Mat Hayward
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@Mat
Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
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Does it show somewhere in our stats whether a customer downloaded the PNG or JPG version of an asset?
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Does it show somewhere in our stats whether a customer downloaded the PNG or JPG version of an asset?
Unfortunately, no we don't provide you with that information.
Thanks for the question,
Mat Hayward
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You're ignoring my question Mat ?
@Mat
Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
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You're ignoring my question Mat ?
@Mat
Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
I'm sorry, what is the question?
-Mat
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You're ignoring my question Mat ?
@Mat
Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
I'm sorry, what is the question?
-Mat
some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
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You're ignoring my question Mat ?
@Mat
Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
I'm sorry, what is the question?
-Mat
some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
Are you asking me why that is? This is a process that requires a lot of time and resources. The priority was placed on newer files, once complete I am told we will begin converting older files also. I do not know what the timeline is for this.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
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You're ignoring my question Mat ?
@Mat
Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
I'm sorry, what is the question?
-Mat
some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
Are you asking me why that is? This is a process that requires a lot of time and resources. The priority was placed on newer files, once complete I am told we will begin converting older files also. I do not know what the timeline is for this.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
Thanks for your reply .
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You're ignoring my question Mat ?
@Mat
Some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
I'm sorry, what is the question?
-Mat
some of my vectors (newly uploaded) with white background are automatically available also as PNG , but my old vectors aren't
Are you asking me why that is? This is a process that requires a lot of time and resources. The priority was placed on newer files, once complete I am told we will begin converting older files also. I do not know what the timeline is for this.
Thanks,
Mat Hayward
Good news when that happens, I'll have more PNG files from my old EPS. TY
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Does anybody knows, how many PNG files are in Adobes database?
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Does anybody knows, how many PNG files are in Adobes database?
3.833.063
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Mat, how will buying customers (and potential customers) find out about this new service? Will Adobe make an announcement somehow, such as a newsletter?
There is an amazing team focused on marketing at Adobe. Stay tuned....
-Mat
Haven't seen any marketing or announcement yet, or if there has been I've missed it. PNG sales are happening but not at the rate of popularity I had hoped. With the important Christmas/New Year period upon us, it would be good to see buying customers being informed about PNG files and how to find them.
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Illustrator does not embed the color profile when exporting a PNG file, when I check the file metadata in Bridge it says Color Mode RGB, Color Profile Untagged.
Can I upload the untagged PNG saved in Illustrator or should I export again that same file from Photoshop and embed the sRgb color profile there? Does it make any difference?
Thanks for your help!
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Illustrator does not embed the color profile when exporting a PNG file, when I check the file metadata in Bridge it says Color Mode RGB, Color Profile Untagged.
Can I upload the untagged PNG saved in Illustrator or should I export again that same file from Photoshop and embed the sRgb color profile there? Does it make any difference?
Thanks for your help!
I don't use Illustrator, but I realized even in Photoshop, the default was to save PNGs with no profile, but there is in fact a checkbox in the save dialog box which allowed you to save with a color profile.
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When I save an EPS file with transparent background and the design requires some empty space around to frame the object (an icon for example) what is the best option?
- Adding a transparent background that has same size of the artboard and larger than the object, on another layer
or
- Saving the EPS file selecting the Use Artboards option
That file will still have a flat jpg preview file paired to preserve colors when displayed online.
Thanks
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I wonder how it would work with vectors. :o When uploading vectors the automated preview image shows distorted colors (to avoid this I have to make a JPG too and zip it together with the EPS and upload it that way), so I worry that the automated PNG might have distorted colors too, no? Hm. Time to test it.
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I wonder how it would work with vectors. :o When uploading vectors the automated preview image shows distorted colors (to avoid this I have to make a JPG too and zip it together with the EPS and upload it that way), so I worry that the automated PNG might have distorted colors too, no? Hm. Time to test it.
I upload the eps file (with no background) zipped with the jpg preview. When the image is approved it shows ai/eps, jpg and png on sale and colors are fine.
I don't know if it is the right procedure but seems to work for me.
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The previews and the free downloadable sample of PNG versions of (raster) images look softer than JPG ones.
It is more pronounced on some images that you can see the difference even from the small previews on the web page.
This may discourage buyers.
PNG on the left, JPG on the right @300% magnification of the free small sample file (https://stock.adobe.com/th/images/white-fence-and-green-hedge-png-format/526151123, not my image).
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Are Adobe still planning "big things" for their png collection or have they shifted their attention/ resources away to AI now (i.e. doing away with us)? We were told to wait and see and that we wouldn't be disappointed with what they had in mind/ the level of promotion. Haven’t seen much yet.
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Are Adobe still planning "big things" for their png collection or have they shifted their attention/ resources away to AI now (i.e. doing away with us)? We were told to wait and see and that we wouldn't be disappointed with what they had in mind/ the level of promotion. Haven’t seen much yet.
PNG files are selling but as you say there doesn't appear to have been any announcement or marketing to customers by Adobe. Shame and disappointing for those of us who have made the effort to upload. Adobe did say they might have to wait to achieve 'critical mass' in search results - that might take a long time given that the majority of contributors do not have an existing PNG file collection.
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Are Adobe still planning "big things" for their png collection or have they shifted their attention/ resources away to AI now (i.e. doing away with us)? We were told to wait and see and that we wouldn't be disappointed with what they had in mind/ the level of promotion. Haven’t seen much yet.
PNG files are selling but as you say there doesn't appear to have been any announcement or marketing to customers by Adobe. Shame and disappointing for those of us who have made the effort to upload. Adobe did say they might have to wait to achieve 'critical mass' in search results - that might take a long time given that the majority of contributors do not have an existing PNG file collection.
Right? I was expecting a new product that integrates PNGs (maybe Canva like web based design software?) or at least some ads or promotion on the front page and search filters for pngs etc.
So far getting some organic sales but very much underwhelmed given the hype. Have to reiterate my fears that early adopters who fell for the promises will be long buried in search results by the time it really takes off (in fact already are, my earliest uploads are already falling off in the usual pattern for uploads to Adobe after the new content search boost).
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Personally I am grateful for the delay because it gives me more time to build a larger png port :)
Sales might be slower than expected, but many files do sell faster than normal uploads.
I am especially impressed that editorial pngs sell. Basically a combo of two content types I didn‘t do before.
Ultimately I hope png will get their own top category, like video. But they will need millions of files for that.
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Ultimately I hope png will get their own top category, like video. But they will need millions of files for that.
They already have millions. 5.127.388 png files as of now.
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Are Adobe still planning "big things" for their png collection or have they shifted their attention/ resources away to AI now (i.e. doing away with us)? We were told to wait and see and that we wouldn't be disappointed with what they had in mind/ the level of promotion. Haven’t seen much yet.
PNG files are selling but as you say there doesn't appear to have been any announcement or marketing to customers by Adobe. Shame and disappointing for those of us who have made the effort to upload. Adobe did say they might have to wait to achieve 'critical mass' in search results - that might take a long time given that the majority of contributors do not have an existing PNG file collection.
Right? I was expecting a new product that integrates PNGs (maybe Canva like web based design software?) or at least some ads or promotion on the front page and search filters for pngs etc.
They already have product similar to Canva, it is Adobe Express. I tried it few times, couldn't see all AS images there and thought it was weird and missed chance to sell more. But I admit I didn't go much in detail so I might be wrong.
Also, maybe they are waiting for acquisition of Figma to come through. Again, just a guess.
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They already have product similar to Canva, it is Adobe Express. I tried it few times, couldn't see all AS images there and thought it was weird and missed chance to sell more. But I admit I didn't go much in detail so I might be wrong.
Also, maybe they are waiting for acquisition of Figma to come through. Again, just a guess.
Good guess I think
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Are Adobe still planning "big things" for their png collection or have they shifted their attention/ resources away to AI now (i.e. doing away with us)? We were told to wait and see and that we wouldn't be disappointed with what they had in mind/ the level of promotion. Haven’t seen much yet.
PNG files are selling but as you say there doesn't appear to have been any announcement or marketing to customers by Adobe. Shame and disappointing for those of us who have made the effort to upload. Adobe did say they might have to wait to achieve 'critical mass' in search results - that might take a long time given that the majority of contributors do not have an existing PNG file collection.
If they haven't started to promote them then I'm really looking forward to that point in time. They've been selling really well for me so far.
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Ultimately I hope png will get their own top category, like video. But they will need millions of files for that.
They already have millions. 5.127.388 png files as of now.
You are right, I was looking at photos only.
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I've noticed that PNG files are gaining in popularity but its a slow process. Some of my PNGs are less popular than others and I can't see them in a normal search, but selecting the transparent background option brings them to the first page. That must be how customers are finding them and suggests that customers are gradually finding the transparent background option.
Of course it would be excellent if Adobe could issue some newsletter or announcement to existing and potential customers but that doesn't yet appear to have happened. Fingers crossed it happens eventually because I'm sure customers will be delighted. Quite why nothing has been done yet is beyond me.
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Do they have to be PNG-16 or PNG-8, or are both okay?
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I've noticed that PNG files are gaining in popularity but its a slow process. Some of my PNGs are less popular than others and I can't see them in a normal search, but selecting the transparent background option brings them to the first page. That must be how customers are finding them and suggests that customers are gradually finding the transparent background option.
Of course it would be excellent if Adobe could issue some newsletter or announcement to existing and potential customers but that doesn't yet appear to have happened. Fingers crossed it happens eventually because I'm sure customers will be delighted. Quite why nothing has been done yet is beyond me.
I can't say what they've done so far to promote PNG files but so far they've been selling really well. A lot comes down to what the subject matter is and timing.