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vonkara

« Reply #100 on: August 03, 2008, 11:10 »
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Fotolia dropped in last place of the big six on the MSG earning rating poll. 123RF is in front. Dropped from 4th to 6th in 2 months


« Reply #101 on: August 03, 2008, 14:07 »
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I still get a payout per month, however, I just calculated my acceptance rate has gone from 80%+ down to 40%-, and I am sure my pictures are better than before??

123RF were close behind FT this month. I had a nice $28 EL from 123RF and a $17.50 EL from FT. I like what they are doing at 123RF, they are closing the gap with some of their rivals like FT, I will be putting more effort there now.

« Reply #102 on: August 03, 2008, 15:02 »
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My acceptance rate on Fotolia has dropped also, drastically... I am sure my pics are better than before..it's obvious when you look at my portfolio. For example, more than half of images from my last batch were rejected on Fotolia, but on Istock, just one image were rejected. That's great success for me on IS because my acceptance rate there was lowest comparing to other agencies where I upload and I am happy because of it. My rejections on FT are almost always "quality of the photograph" and "type of the photograph"

Roadrunner

  • Roadrunner
« Reply #103 on: August 05, 2008, 10:23 »
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Good job vphoto!  You got 5 images Accepted.  8)  I doubt if I could match that. congratulations! ;D

« Reply #104 on: August 05, 2008, 10:28 »
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slightly more. total 1151. they reject nowadays 50% of my submissions.


« Reply #105 on: August 06, 2008, 00:58 »
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Well, my acceptance rate went up slightly last month (To embarrassed to mention % amount!) but my sale doubled so I am not in a position to complain much.

c h e e r s
fred

« Reply #106 on: August 06, 2008, 01:13 »
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I was able to put whopping 8 pictures on FT last month. At the same time my toughest so far, IS, accepted 15. Month ago I was complaining about CS but they accepted 69 in July :-)

« Reply #107 on: August 06, 2008, 07:54 »
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I am getting allot of rejections too!  it sucks!

« Reply #108 on: August 06, 2008, 08:48 »
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Its really too bad, I like fotolia, they have the list of who bought your stuff they sell my work regularly every now and then I even get an extended licence. So its sucks that they don't care that they are pissing off allot of artists. They would have 2000 more images of mine all selling well and making money.
I upload to the sites that pay some respect to their submitters. And I make them money.
Yet I still wish fotolia would get their act back together, and give better customer service to their artists.

Roadrunner

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« Reply #109 on: August 06, 2008, 12:26 »
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Right on Renee! ;D

« Reply #110 on: August 14, 2008, 08:38 »
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Thanks for the update, I guess I will keep mine in the queue then ... >:(

DanP68

« Reply #111 on: August 17, 2008, 11:59 »
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It is what it is.  They reject about 50% of my images.  My acceptance rate is above 90% at SS and DT over the last few months, and above 75% at IS.

I'd get upset, but since FT only manages to contribute 4-5% to my bottom line, I really don't care what they accept or reject.  Everyone has passed them for my portfolio.  123 passed them 2 months ago.  Bigstock passed them last month and is well ahead this month.  Ever since they introduced subs, my credit sales have completely tanked at FT.  I'm apparently not alone, since our poll to the right ranks them 6th out of the Big 7.

The biggest question I have to ask myself is whether or not there is a need to contribute to them in the future.  If they have the most stringent acceptance standards, but some of the lowest sales totals, then what is in it for me?

« Reply #112 on: August 17, 2008, 12:30 »
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Dan I was thinking the  same thing recently and looking at my numbers a year back, rejection, search engine... I think I stop uploading there
will focus on SS,IS,StockXpert,DT for now on....

« Reply #113 on: August 17, 2008, 14:01 »
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I stopped uploading to FL 2 months ago, they reject my stuff as similar or overabundant. Too sad, the so called - accepted - similar images sell very well on FL... I'm really sad, I simply loose money because of somebody's weird decision.

I tried to contact support: I didn't uploaded any similar photograph to #xxxxx, support response was a copy/paste, completely irrelevant to the subject. I contacted support 3 times, the responses were 3 copy/paste's. I feel I'm talking alone or I'm talking to walls.

I have to wait until something changes at FL, I don't want to waste my images.

« Reply #114 on: August 17, 2008, 14:07 »
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Same to me, everything is similar or overabundant :-) I was able to add 9 photos this month and had no sales at all so I start moving FL to the end my my queue.

« Reply #115 on: August 17, 2008, 14:44 »
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Same here. I had a period when they accepted everything I had sent them. And now they keep rejecting the very same pictures (or maybe even better) with their stupid "overabundant" or "type" pseudoreasons. But my sales are now much better than their used to be. So I do not know what to make from it.

KB

« Reply #116 on: August 17, 2008, 18:42 »
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Same here.  >:(

My AR has run over 90% at SS, around 90% at DT for the last year, and 70% at IS (though much higher the last 6 months).

At FT over the last year it's been around 50%. And my last batch (and I do mean last batch) last week -- 15 out of 18 rejected! 14 for "quality of photo", one for "type". Quality? DT, IS, and SS (not to mention the rest) don't have problems with them, what makes FT so special?

I wrote to support, asking that they be re-reviewed by a senior reviewer. You all know the response I got.  Sorry for the inconvenience, blah, blah, blah.

Only an idiot (hello!)  ;D would continue to upload under these circumstances. The most difficult UL process combined with relatively poor sales (except for the occasional EL) and the least consistent, most frustrating rejections.

I'm not yet at the point where I'm going to delete my port (why bother?), but they won't be seeing new images from me until (unless) I read that things have changed. (As if they care -- ha!)

« Reply #117 on: August 17, 2008, 19:03 »
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maybe they rotate acceptance percentage like some sites rotate the search engine :D

Dunno what to tell all of you, we just had 98 of the last 120 accepted onto the site.
Rejects: Overabundant (we had some daisies :D )
              Similar (they took one of four shots of a series, etc)

Well, I guess I better finish bulk uploading before they rotate acceptance again... lol

« Reply #118 on: August 17, 2008, 19:28 »
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well this is my trick...

i upload a batch (30-50 images) i edit few
5-8
if rejected i dont submit the others...

i guess it have to do something with the moon and the weather  (ha ha)

so i'm waiting for the next moon to submit the rest (after tested) with the new ones....

« Reply #119 on: August 18, 2008, 05:28 »
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Well, the only problem is I usually upload every other day. So waiting for the next moon would cause a big "photo jam". :-)

« Reply #120 on: August 18, 2008, 06:01 »
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Maybe they are trying to limit the competition for their "Infinity" collection!!

« Reply #121 on: August 18, 2008, 08:08 »
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since I arrived back in the UK 2 months ago, I have had nearly every submission to Fotolia rejected for one reason or another. I really don't know what they are looking for anymore. My acceptance rate on all the other sites has remained high, so I guess I will just have to manage without them from now on.

michealo

« Reply #122 on: August 18, 2008, 08:17 »
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I am in the process of pulling my port from there. I stopped uploading after getting so many overabundant rejections. Sales certainly weren't overabundant ;-)

« Reply #123 on: August 18, 2008, 09:42 »
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Everybody there on vacations, one rookie reviewer has no vacation this year so he is pissed off and sends everything to void  ;D

« Reply #124 on: August 18, 2008, 11:11 »
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I am in the process of pulling my port from there. I stopped uploading after getting so many overabundant rejections. Sales certainly weren't overabundant ;-)

I am not pulling my port, but I am not uploading any more images until FT delivers some COHERENT statement about criteria/policies, categories they are looking for and categories they are not accepting and WHY.

I don't want any more "arbitrary". I don't want any more hit or miss. I don't want any more uncertainty. Uploading and processing takes time, which is valuable and FT has sent me a clear message that it does not respect my time and does not take effort to communicate clearly about the images it is looking and standards it is adhering to. I want a coherent statement about its "aesthetic quality" standards and I want a statement about categories that are overabundant because, well - a bunch of people images i submitted have fallen victim to these two beasts.

Experience shows that photogs can influence behavior of agencies. Is it too much to ask FT to make explicit and clear its acceptance policy? I can live with harsh, stringent acceptance and review criteria. I refuse to play the game of uncertainty.  I think we as photographers should demand that FT communicate with us.

I personally am not uploading to FT any more until my concerns about FT acceptance standards and criteria are alleviated at least in some fashion.


 

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