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lisafx

« Reply #75 on: July 18, 2008, 09:31 »
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What's consistent about Fotolias revue process is the inconsistancy of the results!   :)

This sums up my experience too.  Well put!


DanP68

« Reply #76 on: July 18, 2008, 11:05 »
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I submit at least 20 new images every weekday, and that gets to be a lot of work submitting on Fotolia with the cumbersome upload process (categories aren't bad, but the reordering of the keywords in a P.I.T.A.)


20 new images per day - you have a helluva work ethic!   8)

As part of my workflow, I make sure my most important keywords are near the front in my IPTC data.  I do this for Fotolia, and it is pretty much automatic these days.  That way I don't have to worry about re-ordering.

I also ensure my description is at least 7 words for Bigstock, though I have no clue why I bother with them lately.  Sales have fallen through the floor.

« Reply #77 on: July 18, 2008, 11:35 »
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I stopped uploading there about 6 months ago, tried once again to see if the Attila was gone but alas was still there, I sent them an email but they don't care about loosing artists. There vectors take extra work and they are the only site that wants svgs and they reject 60% of my work that is accepted 100% on other sites. I will leave Fotolia to the hungry people, I prefer to submit to sites that at least listen to feedback. At the beginning of F2 they accepted everything, so I decided to upload my port and half way through uploading they hired Attila and that ended that. They remind me of Istock YUCK!

Me, too...I quit uploading in May.  I'm just plain tired of their overall heavy handedness with everyone and everything.  The amazing increase in rejections coupled with the arrogance shown after subscriptions were introduced was the last straw for me.  I don't pay them 63% of my earnings so I can be treated like dirt. 

« Reply #78 on: July 18, 2008, 12:55 »
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As part of my workflow, I make sure my most important keywords are near the front in my IPTC data.  I do this for Fotolia, and it is pretty much automatic these days.  That way I don't have to worry about re-ordering.

This is also what I do. However, it seems ironic that we are tailoring our IPTC data to suit the site that seems to show the lowest respect to the efforts we put in creating our images. I refer to the increase in rejection rates without adequate explanation.

I am really beginning to get fed-up with the site for this reason, however, at least they are still managing to sell images, the ones that made it through before the culling began!  :-\

DanP68

« Reply #79 on: July 18, 2008, 13:17 »
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They don't sell my images Stu, so honestly they are on thin ice with my portfolio.  Fotolia has never represented more than 10% of my earnings, and now they are below 4%.  The few sales I've had this month have either been sub or XS it seems.  123RF is kicking their teeth in this month.

Shutterstock has tough reviews, but they actually deliver with earnings. 

« Reply #80 on: July 18, 2008, 15:44 »
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I think I need to apologize to all those who are experiencing muted downloads on FT recently.

Seems like (as it appears to me) I uploaded a huge batch of "Killer Images" in the recent passing weeks.
These images seem to be * up all the downloads to my account and I don't know how to make them stop!

Please bare with me as I am aware of the problem, and I am working on a solution soon.
I might consider deleting some of my best sellers just to even out the downloads and give you guys a chance again.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

« Reply #81 on: July 18, 2008, 15:51 »
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hilarious!


DanP68

« Reply #82 on: July 18, 2008, 16:10 »
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That's great Miz!  How are you doing at Shutterstock? 



I think I need to apologize to all those who are experiencing muted downloads on FT recently.

Seems like (as it appears to me) I uploaded a huge batch of "Killer Images" in the recent passing weeks.
These images seem to be * up all the downloads to my account and I don't know how to make them stop!

Please bare with me as I am aware of the problem, and I am working on a solution soon.
I might consider deleting some of my best sellers just to even out the downloads and give you guys a chance again.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason


« Reply #83 on: July 18, 2008, 16:21 »
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Start another thread about SS and I will comment.
It is vulgar, and rude manners to hijack a thread. Please consider using some proper forum etiquette in the future.

Why do you always insist on changing the subject of a thread Mr. DanP68?
However, I look forward to reading your thread about your troubles, and will gladly comment when I spot it.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason


« Reply #84 on: July 18, 2008, 16:34 »
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things are actually looking up at FT...I had "1" image accepted so far this month (out of 4 and it was a piece of crap...I've virtually quit bothering). Things are turning around!!!!!!!!!

DanP68

« Reply #85 on: July 18, 2008, 16:59 »
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Start another thread about SS and I will comment.
It is vulgar, and rude manners to hijack a thread. Please consider using some proper forum etiquette in the future.

Why do you always insist on changing the subject of a thread Mr. DanP68?
However, I look forward to reading your thread about your troubles, and will gladly comment when I spot it.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason




It's a shame you are so good at making light of others, but cannot take it in return.  But I guess this is what has gotten you kicked out of microstock agencies and independent forums in the past. 

« Reply #86 on: July 18, 2008, 17:44 »
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Epixx,

......My sales have been going crazy lately, with a BME in June and a strong follow-up so far in July.  And my Earnings per Download is up to $1.11 this month.  More realistically, I am averaging $0.86 per DL for 2008.

Seriously, if this continues and the raise is as beneficial as Dreamstime thinks it will be, I will consider exclusivity with them next winter. 

So I guess it's OK for you to toot your horn, but if I do it you want to slam me to the ground, bury me in the dirt, and then spit on me.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2008, 03:20 »
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So I guess it's OK for you to toot your horn, but if I do it you want to slam me to the ground, bury me in the dirt, and then spit on me.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

Makes jokes about others, takes similar pokes at himself in stride = good sport
Makes jokes about others, borderline hysterical reaction to similar jokes aimed at him = mean spirited

Tell it like it is, take it like it is.

graficallyminded

« Reply #88 on: July 30, 2008, 07:19 »
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Any ease up on Fotolia reviews lately?  Every so often I push 5 through, just to see what happens.  If 4 out of 5 get approved that means there's a good reviewer on duty.  If none or 1 out of 5 get approved, I stop wasting my precious time and move on to focusing my attention on another site. 

It's a shame, because I have like 400 new images from the last month and a half piling up in the cue...ready to categorize and submit. 

« Reply #89 on: July 30, 2008, 07:47 »
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They reject a lot of my submissions and usually I just put them up there and forget about them. Hide the deleted files so it doesn't bother me so much. They sell enough photos for me to keep uploading there.

« Reply #90 on: July 30, 2008, 07:57 »
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Reviews have got better for me again but I'm only uploading illustrations, all photos are going elsewhere for the time being.

« Reply #91 on: July 30, 2008, 09:17 »
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For me reviews have become worse.  I'm done with Fotolia for the moment. I will upload photos straight out of Prostockmaster in the queue, no keywords checking or switching anymore, only adding a MR if necessary, nothing else. So then it's almost no work at all.

« Reply #92 on: July 30, 2008, 10:57 »
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No improvement at all.  I thought I'd try again and uploaded 100 new images last week, all of which had been accepted elsewhere across the board, and had only 35 accepted.  I don't know why I even bothered.

« Reply #93 on: July 30, 2008, 13:00 »
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No improvement at all.  I thought I'd try again and uploaded 100 new images last week, all of which had been accepted elsewhere across the board, and had only 35 accepted.  I don't know why I even bothered.
I think this or similar is happening to a lot of us, except Peter of course. FT has become very picky and ridiculous as far as rejections go. I get 98% approval at SS which I think is tough and with the same images I get 50% or lower at FT. 

graficallyminded

« Reply #94 on: August 01, 2008, 13:39 »
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It's actually gotten to the point where iStock is accepting what Fotolia rejects.  How ridiculous is that?  It's easier to get images into iStock...now that's bad ;)

« Reply #95 on: August 01, 2008, 18:48 »
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I have much better acceptance at istock than ft.   I stopped at fotolia when they brought in subscriptions, I didn't like the way they treated people and when you are getting 80-90% rejections (and 90+% acceptance elsewhere) and there keywords and there categories, I felt the time vs income vs treatment wasnt worth it.

but after looking at this thread I looked at their latest 300 uploads, and there is some very average images getting through... is this just luck? or are they exclusive? or is there some other secret? :)

Phil

« Reply #96 on: August 02, 2008, 17:04 »
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I've begun uploading 1 image per month...this month they accepted it, so now I'm at 100% acceptance  ;)

I would blow them off completely but I still cash out 1 - 2 times per month. In the next 6 months, they will officially have the most out-of-date stock collection online.

« Reply #97 on: August 02, 2008, 19:28 »
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I almost never get a rejection on fotolia.  I find that IS is by far the hardest site and in almost every batch I get a couple of overfiltered rejections although last month they didn't reject anything.

« Reply #98 on: August 03, 2008, 02:37 »
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but after looking at this thread I looked at their latest 300 uploads, and there is some very average images getting through... is this just luck? or are they exclusive? or is there some other secret? :)

Phil

All my uploads to Fotolia are exclusive and I get lots of rejections, mostly for too similar, so I don't think being exclusive makes it any easier. Through frustration I've stopped uploading photographs for now and only send my illustrations there. Acceptance in the past few weeks of those seems to be much better.

« Reply #99 on: August 03, 2008, 10:47 »
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It's actually gotten to the point where iStock is accepting what Fotolia rejects.  How ridiculous is that?  It's easier to get images into iStock...now that's bad ;)

I'm finding the same thing. Just got a batch reviewed with 50% rejections, images rejected that are good enough at IS etc. I think it's time for FT and I to take a break, I've only got a small port of 700+, but its going to stay that way until I decide to start uploading again. It wouldn't be so bad if the rejections made sense! Perhaps Attila will be going off on a long over due campaign elsewhere soon. One hopes ;-)


 

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