Author Topic: Thieves at fotolia (Read 31518 times)

Peter · « **on:** April 19, 2008, 05:54 »

some russian guy has entire portfolio of stolen images... lol.

Mellimage · « **Reply #1 on:** April 19, 2008, 06:35 »

What is there to laugh about?

RT · « **Reply #2 on:** April 19, 2008, 06:44 »

For an image as obvious as Scott Maxwells it makes you wonder how . it ever got past the reviewer.

I presume you've informed FT about this.

GeoPappas · « **Reply #3 on:** April 19, 2008, 07:08 »

This might be the same guy with the stolen images at DT.

It makes sense, since if he purchased all of the images from SS via subscription, then he would probably want to get the most bang for his buck and submit them to all of the agencies.

Peter · « **Reply #4 on:** April 19, 2008, 07:40 »

Quote from: RT on April 19, 2008, 06:44

I presume you've informed FT about this.

of course.

Peter · « **Reply #5 on:** April 19, 2008, 07:42 »

Quote from: Mellimage on April 19, 2008, 06:35

What is there to laugh about?

human stupidity for thinking they can sell someone elses work.

RT · « **Reply #6 on:** April 19, 2008, 08:04 »

I've sent a message to Scott (lumaxart3d) about this so if he hasn't already done so he can conatct Fotolia.

RT · « **Reply #7 on:** April 19, 2008, 08:06 »

Quote from: Chode on April 19, 2008, 07:42

Quote from: Mellimage on April 19, 2008, 06:35
What is there to laugh about?

human stupidity for thinking they can sell someone elses work.

But apart from the stupidity of the guy doing it what about the complete stupidity of both the mentioned sites for allowing it to happen, I mean an isolated apple I could understand but Scott is famous for the gold men, you can't tell me any reviewer on any site wouldn't recongnise them.

jsnover · « **Reply #8 on:** April 19, 2008, 10:21 »

Quote from: GeoPappas on April 19, 2008, 07:08

This might be the same guy with the stolen images at DT.

It makes sense, since if he purchased all of the images from SS via subscription, then he would probably want to get the most bang for his buck and submit them to all of the agencies.

It's the same name as is on the DT account, Pavel Andriyanov. Did Fotolia act faster and take this stuff down already? I can't access the image by the number Chode posted. If so, I'm glad to see they've jumped right on it.

rjmiz · « **Reply #9 on:** April 19, 2008, 10:22 »

A curious post was made to this extent.
It is questionable, and unknown if in fact the reviewers are given the names of contributors
at the time they are reviewing the images. If this is the case, then you can well see how this could happen.

The MIZ

RT · « **Reply #10 on:** April 19, 2008, 11:16 »

Quote from: rjmiz on April 19, 2008, 10:22

A curious post was made to this extent.
It is questionable, and unknown if in fact the reviewers are given the names of contributors
at the time they are reviewing the images. If this is the case, then you can well see how this could happen.

The MIZ

Ummm.... I can't say for all the sites but the majority of them certainly know who the submitter is.

snurder · « **Reply #11 on:** April 19, 2008, 11:20 »

How long will it take for this thread to be locked, or even deleted, at Dreamstime? Lumaxart2d has made an appearance on the DT board and his clock is ticking

Good for him in posting outright.

http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_9737

Thread Title: Pavel Andriyanov Zillman98 what

snurder · « **Reply #12 on:** April 19, 2008, 11:37 »

It appears tha Zillman98 is also masquerading as his own referred member, muhamed2525 on DT. Here is yet aother matchup. There are many more

Shutterstock version, believed to be the original artist

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-10207735-shiny-light-bulb.html

DT version, under user Muhamed2525

http://www.dreamstime.com/3d-blue-bulbs-image4828302

Looks like the DT people will be cleanup up quite the sh$tstorm on Monday.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #13 on:** April 19, 2008, 12:17 »

Quote from: snurder on April 19, 2008, 11:37

It appears tha Zillman98 is also masquerading as his own referred member, muhamed2525 on DT. Here is yet aother matchup. There are many more

Shutterstock version, believed to be the original artist

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-10207735-shiny-light-bulb.html

DT version, under user Muhamed2525

http://www.dreamstime.com/3d-blue-bulbs-image4828302

Looks like the DT people will be cleanup up quite the sh$tstorm on Monday.

has anyone responded to your emails re this theft?

i think i am going to stop uploading for now.

although no one would steal mine, attila calls them snapshots anyway

seriously, i don't UL my original size anyway, only the small and medium
reduction. so in a way, a theft of my photos isn't that attractive, huh?
they're not big seller either... at least not yet

snurder · « **Reply #14 on:** April 19, 2008, 12:32 »

No responses from DT at this moment. I think on weekends they just do some server babysitting and that may be all. But I have written at least a half dozen, and have even provided links to what I truly perceive to be the original artists - that is the links from Shutterstock and istock, which point to a variety of user names that have been hit. Others have written as well, so they may be in for quite a surprise on Monday morning.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #15 on:** April 19, 2008, 12:44 »

Quote from: Chode on April 19, 2008, 05:54

some russian guy has entire portfolio of stolen images... lol.

they can't prosecute him for copyright theft in russia, i guess.

what about the other sites? eg. FP . he could have tons there since it's not a rejection procedure but just an approval method that your photos are stock compliance, which all these "stolen" best sellers are.
if so, it would be good to informed FP as she is always quick in responding to us.

jsnover · « **Reply #16 on:** April 19, 2008, 12:52 »

I did check BigStock and StockXpert using the microphone shot (against the lights) and Scott's trophy guy. The thief changes the keywords, but even using the ones he used at DT, I can't find either of those images.

I didn't check iStock as I figured their upload limits would be discouraging to someone trying to make a quick buck.

snurder · « **Reply #17 on:** April 19, 2008, 12:57 »

Sorry don't know about copyright laws in Russia. DOn't even know if they have signed on to abide by International Treaties.

Here is a link to the Pavel port on Fotolia. Looks like he is just getting busy there.

http://us.fotolia.com/p/200626358

And since that Oscar statue just stood out, here is another rip link for the original (I think) artist that I found on a quick search

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-3289745--d-rendered-gold-man.html

Shutterstock definitely has a case here because it is one of ther special rights images.

jsnover · « **Reply #18 on:** April 19, 2008, 13:01 »

But Scott's gold guy with a trophy isn't in the portfolio you pointed to - did they just take down that one image after Chode notified them?

The oscar statue render is available elsewhere, not just at SS, so it still doesn't prove where the thief obtained the images.

jsnover · « **Reply #19 on:** April 19, 2008, 13:03 »

Here's another stolen one in the Fotolia port you referenced:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-2912967-magic-book.html
http://us.fotolia.com/id/7158637

snurder · « **Reply #20 on:** April 19, 2008, 13:04 »

Quote from: jsnover on April 19, 2008, 13:01

But Scott's gold guy with a trophy isn't in the portfolio you pointed to - did they just take down that one image after Chode notified them?

I think it may have come down quickly. The DT people just an weekend vacation is all

On FO, they seem to work weekends as I recall getting image appvals there on Sat/Sun.

madelaide · « **Reply #21 on:** April 19, 2008, 13:11 »

Quote from: snurder on April 19, 2008, 12:57

Sorry don't know about copyright laws in Russia. DOn't even know if they have signed on to abide by International Treaties.

I don't think it's a matter of laws in Russia. The person signs a contract with a company and when he uploads the material he confirms he own copyrights on those images.

Regards,
Adelaide

snurder · « **Reply #22 on:** April 19, 2008, 13:13 »

Well this has been quite an education for all of us. I wish I had the time and energy to notify all the individual artists, but I don't today as I have some "real" work to do. If any of the infringed are known to you, please notify them. Lumaxrt2d already vocal on the DT board, but there are many still unsuspecting at this point about the ripping of their images.

If you have anymore "finds" good to post them.

I will inform on any replies I get from DT, or on my banishment from the service. I may have hit a big giant nerve there with my Anyar Admin query, since it was quite direct and to the point.

araminta · « **Reply #23 on:** April 19, 2008, 13:32 »

Hey... he stole one of mine with another name (Sergey Andriyanov) and pseudo

http://www.dreamstime.com/light-bulbs-image4828381

anonymous · « **Reply #24 on:** April 19, 2008, 17:33 »

If any of you find threads on any of these sites pertaining to this subject, would you please be so kind as to post them here? I cannot find any and I'm EXTREMELY curious to see how the individual sites "deal" with the posts. If they close them or punish any of the "posters", this might lend credibility to the "insider" speculations.

THX

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