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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2023, 18:38 »
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It's good that you brought clarity. It just lifted a stone from my soul. Thank you!

« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2023, 00:19 »
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The annoying part is the batch rejection, its not like just one of 2 images are rejected like the good days, now a whole batch of 25 will be rejected. It is as if the reviewer rejects one image so rejects all 25, no other logical reason.

The same thing happened to me a few years ago. 18 images - all different kinds - many of which have always been accepted over the years - all 18 were rejected. I had included a few in an entirely new style for me, that I suspect the reviewer didn't like them so rejected the whole batch.

Ever since then, I have uploaded one image per batch at a time. It is much more time-consuming, but it's something I have to do to prevent the arbitrary rejections you discuss above.

Might give this a go, I think uploading a batch of photos to Adobe is no longer viable due to their ignorant reviewers

« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2023, 05:29 »
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Not too long ago, I was also receiving the harsh rejections on my photos. Previously, I had a pretty high acceptance rate. Though more recently, reviewers are becoming more generous again. Reviews are good at the moment but very slow.

« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2023, 16:46 »
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Almost everything is rejected these days. Just simple vectors with abstract backgrounds passed, while quality files with lots of details and unique artistic style were refused because of a "quality issue". Part of them refused as "non-compilant vectors". Never happened before.  :(

What do you guys think, should I pause uploading and wait a little bit for a better reviewer or an improved review process? Even more important, is it allowed to try to reupload the rejected content?

« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2023, 02:18 »
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It is interesting to see how, since the AI hype, people are popping up all over the net, including here, trying to tell the "old-timers" how the business works and how great AS has become.

I am sorry, but those of us who have been around for a while know AS and especially Fotolia very well.
But unfortunately I have to agree that AS has become much worse in many aspects and this has not only to do with the flood of AI images.

Especially from the customer's point of view. For example, the search in German has become so bad that you have to question whether there are beginners at work behind the scene. This has to do with some peculiarities of the German language, such as the way words are written together and other factors.
It is probably the same with other languages.
I wouldn't complain if it hadn't worked fine before, but this is just bumbling now.

« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2023, 07:28 »
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It is interesting to see how, since the AI hype, people are popping up all over the net, including here, trying to tell the "old-timers" how the business works and how great AS has become.

I am sorry, but those of us who have been around for a while know AS and especially Fotolia very well.
But unfortunately I have to agree that AS has become much worse in many aspects and this has not only to do with the flood of AI images.

Especially from the customer's point of view. For example, the search in German has become so bad that you have to question whether there are beginners at work behind the scene. This has to do with some peculiarities of the German language, such as the way words are written together and other factors.
It is probably the same with other languages.
I wouldn't complain if it hadn't worked fine before, but this is just bumbling now.

yes I know,over the time and with experience many lose humility,they believe they know everything and they lose the ability to learn new things,and to face problems with clarity.

I bought my first reflex in 1987 and started printing in the darkroom in 1989,I'm nobody,I'm the last wheel on the wagon,but I know I can improve.

I like to face problems rationally,and when I see people giving in to paranoia and sci-fi visions,I also feel obliged to intervene to try to make people reflect on what seems logical and obvious to me.

Fotolia was a great agency,all my friends still speak well of it,I started in microstock when Adobe Stock was already here since a year,some friends who run annual photography contests are very happy with this change,because they already know Adobe very well as a company regardless.

Fotolia's times were simpler,today Adobe finds itself,like us,facing a multitude of changes,and from my point of view they are doing a great job,there are definitely a lot of mistakes,in the reviews,I have seen images accepted that probably should have been rejected,women with three legs or whatever,but in fact the situation is new for everyone,and they are certainly doing their utmost to bring everything back to normal,and act in the best possible way while respecting everyone's work,and that's enough to have all my support.

do you want to know why I act like this?because I learned on my back what it means to deal with those who have no respect for people,and I think I recognize when a company,or a microstock agency,acts with respect for people and of their work,as far as possible.








« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2023, 12:24 »
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The annoying part is the batch rejection, its not like just one of 2 images are rejected like the good days, now a whole batch of 25 will be rejected. It is as if the reviewer rejects one image so rejects all 25, no other logical reason.

it's like they've adopted alamy's silly rules

« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2023, 04:18 »
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Three consecutive batches of my submissions, each standing for more than 30 days, have been reviewed. Almost everything in these batches has been rejected due to quality issues, with only one or two exceptions. Two batches were  regular photos, and one batch featured AI-generated content created with Firefly (and upscaled with GigaPixel). The vast majority has been declined due to quality problems. Interestingly, the approved photos had exactly the same quality and were accepted without issues on other stock sites such as Shutterstock, iStock, Dreamstime, and Deposit (for regular photos), some of which have already been sold. Previously, I maintained at least a 95% acceptance rate on Adobe Stock, which is now naturally declining.

What I find most ironic is this:

The database is now filled with AI junk (six fingers, "fruit" logos on laptops, etc.), yet they are now rejecting content created by their own Firefly due to quality problems.

There is clearly a change in the review process, but I wonder if this is the right direction. It seems like they might have lost their way a bit.

« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2023, 06:12 »
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personally I'm taking it as calmly as possible,3 billion images have been generated since Firefly went online,so if we add up all the other AI we arrive at astronomical figures,and we are only at the beginning.

it is obvious that there must be a limit in accepting new content,it seems clear to me.

as I said,I'll take it easy,and I will try to select very carefully what to send,because I am quite certain that if I send a few contents at a time they will be accepted more easily.


« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2023, 12:07 »
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Update: Next batch of 13 images rejected as a whole!!!

Seriously?? Not a single image gets through? Is this the end?

Was it because they are autumn pictures and the review took so long that they are too late?

Mat, can you please explain to us what's going on?

« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2023, 12:38 »
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personally I'm taking it as calmly as possible,3 billion images have been generated since Firefly went online,so if we add up all the other AI we arrive at astronomical figures,and we are only at the beginning.
...

where do we find those stats? how many are submitted to agencies - obviously not all to AS

« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2023, 14:21 »
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Update: Next batch of 13 images rejected as a whole!!!

Seriously?? Not a single image gets through? Is this the end?

Was it because they are autumn pictures and the review took so long that they are too late?

Mat, can you please explain to us what's going on?

I would need to see the photos. Share them here and I'll be happy to provide a critique.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2023, 14:58 »
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Update: Next batch of 13 images rejected as a whole!!!

Seriously?? Not a single image gets through? Is this the end?

Was it because they are autumn pictures and the review took so long that they are too late?

Mat, can you please explain to us what's going on?

I would need to see the photos. Share them here and I'll be happy to provide a critique.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Come on, Mat! I really appreciate your presence here and I am grateful for all the insights you provide. However, when it comes to review process, the way you act is just ridiculous. Instead of admitting that there is a problem with random rejections (not to mention months of waiting for any decision), you keep pretending that everything is fine. It doesn't matter what the quality of 13 images discussed here is. It is a general problem that affects, as far as I can see, all the members of this forum, even the most professional ones.

« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2023, 16:05 »
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« Last Edit: October 26, 2023, 15:09 by cascoly »

« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2023, 16:12 »
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Update: Next batch of 13 images rejected as a whole!!!

Seriously?? Not a single image gets through? Is this the end?

Was it because they are autumn pictures and the review took so long that they are too late?

Mat, can you please explain to us what's going on?

I would need to see the photos. Share them here and I'll be happy to provide a critique.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward


Sorry, this is not about photo critique. Sharing photos, everybody finds something wrong with them. These are all poster-worthy images and if they occasionally reject one of them, well that's life, but in 2 batches in a row they don't take one image, and they are all professional high quality images with nice clean editing. I'm not one who submits to stock their byproducts, but only my very best work, and I have thousands of downloads a month with a small portfolio, so I'd know if my whole batch was garbage. On the other hand I looked at the new images in the search results and... well, everybody can have a look for themselves. I'd like to emphasize that this is not about my ego, I don't care about that stuff. It's serious business talk.

Something very funny is going on and I don't trust Adobe to treat me fairly if I reveal my identity here, after all the criticism I wrote.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 16:15 by Sandeel »

« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2023, 17:28 »
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Update: Next batch of 13 images rejected as a whole!!!

Seriously?? Not a single image gets through? Is this the end?

Was it because they are autumn pictures and the review took so long that they are too late?

Mat, can you please explain to us what's going on?

I would need to see the photos. Share them here and I'll be happy to provide a critique.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Come on, Mat! I really appreciate your presence here and I am grateful for all the insights you provide. However, when it comes to review process, the way you act is just ridiculous. Instead of admitting that there is a problem with random rejections (not to mention months of waiting for any decision), you keep pretending that everything is fine. It doesn't matter what the quality of 13 images discussed here is. It is a general problem that affects, as far as I can see, all the members of this forum, even the most professional ones.

Fair enough. Thank you for your feedback.

-Mat Hayward

« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2023, 18:00 »
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personally I'm taking it as calmly as possible,3 billion images have been generated since Firefly went online,so if we add up all the other AI we arrive at astronomical figures,and we are only at the beginning.
...

where do we find those stats? how many are submitted to agencies - obviously not all to AS

there are plenty of articles online about it,search for "3 billions of images generated with firefly" This news seems to be from October 10th

obviously this is the number of images generated,not the number of images accepted for sale by Adobe Stock or other agencies.

« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2023, 18:16 »
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regarding the contents rejected by Adobe,I can only say my experience so far.

I haven't had any particular problems with rejections so far,I had photos and videos rejected and accepted in the normal level as always.

However,I am sure that the amount of content to be reviewed these days is considerable,and that mistakes will certainly have also been made,we are all human.

and I also know that it can really make you impatient at times,because you have worked on it,and when you see the rejections they are never pleasant.

I suppose that from the end of November the review situation will start to improve in time,not in quantity of rejections,but it's simply my idea,based on some things,which I won't be here to explain,also because I don't even know if that's the case.

from the beginning of next year in my opinion things will start to improve noticeably from all points of view.

but I repeat,these are just my ideas and considerations.

« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2023, 19:20 »
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sorry,I tripled myself...it wouldn't be bad,they would be useful to me a couple of clones! :D
« Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 19:23 by Injustice for all »

« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2023, 01:56 »
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It is interesting to see how, since the AI hype, people are popping up all over the net, including here, trying to tell the "old-timers" how the business works and how great AS has become.

I am sorry, but those of us who have been around for a while know AS and especially Fotolia very well.
But unfortunately I have to agree that AS has become much worse in many aspects and this has not only to do with the flood of AI images.

Especially from the customer's point of view. For example, the search in German has become so bad that you have to question whether there are beginners at work behind the scene. This has to do with some peculiarities of the German language, such as the way words are written together and other factors.
It is probably the same with other languages.
I wouldn't complain if it hadn't worked fine before, but this is just bumbling now.


That's right! The translation does not work at all anymore! But this has nothing to do with complicated words, where the translation software has a hard time.
An example:
- Tuscany (search Region USA) = 417.000 results
- Toscana (search Region Italy) = 242.000 results
- Toskana (search Region Germany) = 37.000 results
If you do not do the keywording in English, you will not be found, because search terms from other languages will not be translated.

Mat, can you please comment on this?


« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2023, 10:42 »
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Changing regions produces completely insane results - no idea where exactly the bugs are, but this is important to fix.

As a particularly crazy example, if you search for Berlin - spelled the same in German and English:

274.118 Ergebnisse fr Berlin in Bilder
275,093 results for Berlin in images (US)


No translation of anything required but nearly 1,000 images are just missing.

And for the Tuscany example, if you switch to the Italian region:

366.635 risultati per Tuscany in immagini
220.371 risultati per toscana in immagini


Searching for Tuscany in French in the French region:

161 562 rsultats pour Toscane dans images
366 635 rsultats pour Tuscany dans images


« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2023, 12:22 »
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Changing regions produces completely insane results

even the search from Italy for AI contents is different from yours.

"AI" search show 13.199.418 AI images and 128479 AI videos.

"IA"(intelligenza artificiale,Italian language) show 13.248.660 images.

This is one way the Adobe Stock sales system is perhaps supposed to work?Maybe there is a reason why the searches are different?Maybe not? :D

242.005 results for "Toscana" near home  :)

« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2023, 12:45 »
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Changing regions produces completely insane results

even the search from Italy for AI contents is different from yours.

"AI" search show 13.199.418 AI images and 128479 AI videos.

"IA"(intelligenza artificiale,Italian language) show 13.248.660 images.

This is one way the Adobe Stock sales system is perhaps supposed to work?Maybe there is a reason why the searches are different?Maybe not? :D

242.005 results for "Toscana" near home  :)


Advantage for you! Searching for Toscana here from German region I only get 163.400 results! I feel discriminated now!

« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2023, 12:48 »
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I have written a PM to Mat concerning this. I dont know what to do because lots of my images with German keywording dont appear in the search results. I loose lots of money.


 

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