Author Topic: What's your weekly ranking and how many images? (Read 135237 times)

Injustice for all · « **Reply #1300 on:** January 16, 2025, 10:55 »

the contents that I am creating these days are nothing more than the AI evolution of a vector that I created at the end of 2019.

so it is an already tested idea/concept that has sold a lot,but more in other agencies while on Adobe only 5 times so far.

I hope these AI evolutions of the same concept sell better on Adobe compared to the old vector.

for the rest,I can only hope that you are right,and that from next week sales will start to take off,I am very curious to see what the results of these important first quarter of the year will be.

cobalt · « **Reply #1301 on:** January 17, 2025, 04:12 »

So, yesterday I had 34 sales, this time 21 were ai, 13 were camera

Also some ai files getting their first download.

pos 2850, 7600 files.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #1302 on:** January 17, 2025, 11:12 »

This year so far 80% of sales are real content,and 20% AI.

my port is about 75% real and 25% AI.

cobalt · « **Reply #1303 on:** January 18, 2025, 06:10 »

pos 3050 down again ..

Injustice for all · « **Reply #1304 on:** January 18, 2025, 07:07 »

Don't tell me,it's likely that I'll end the month with an increase compared to last year,but it will probably be an insignificant increase.

DaLiu · « **Reply #1305 on:** January 18, 2025, 09:41 »

Time to rise up!

Injustice for all · « **Reply #1306 on:** January 20, 2025, 08:51 »

again...today January 20,2025 I have the same exact number of sales as I had on January 20,2024.

it's completely demotivating,I uploaded 1935 new contents last year,if I also add to this the fact that old contents should sell more even without new uploads,all this is completely demotivating.

in all honesty it's just not possible to sell so little with the portfolio I have today,I'm certainly not saying that I should sell 10 times more,but at least 2-3 times more than I sell.

It's possible that this is my bad month,but February and March will tell the truth.

Adobe...waaakee uuupppp!

cobalt · « **Reply #1307 on:** January 20, 2025, 09:12 »

By end of this week I could have what I earned last January including istock and there is nearly another week to top it up.

So I hope it will be more, probably 15-20%.

Far from ideal but it will be an upswing.

I hope by end of this week we finally get a little push higher from buyers going back to work.

I am trying to add content with themes I never offered before, but they might then also need longer to sell.

My best bet for this year will be other agencies.

cobalt · « **Reply #1308 on:** January 20, 2025, 12:20 »

today is a slow day in the us and I just realized it is mlk day, plus inauguration

so only 22 dl so far, 11 ai, 11 camera

Injustice for all · « **Reply #1309 on:** January 20, 2025, 17:28 »

but for you it's different,even on a bad day like this you ended up making at least 30 sales,if not more,in short you always sell anyway.

for me it's a different story,to still have a minimum of hope,I would have to sell at least every month like November,at this point in the journey,with my current port.

unfortunately,as I have already said,if I was still at least 40 years old,I still had time,but now at almost 50 years old I no longer have time.

this is a subjective thing,it depends on one's condition,if I had a different situation,I could certainly still afford to wait a few years,but unfortunately it is not my situation.

as I already told you,in the first 20 days of January 2024 I made the exact same number of sales that I have now made in the first 20 days of January 2025,the exact same number of sales,It's definitely not a coincidence,it just can't be statistically.

so it seems clear to me that I will still have to wait a few years before seeing concrete/acceptable results,if ever.

so I'll stop here for now.

I will continue to monitor the situation,if/when I start to see at least a similar number of sales to November,I will resume uploading.

the other agencies?which agencies?SS is finished,IS you have to sell your soul to make 100 usd more a month,which other agencies?

if I can't even earn something decent on Adobe,it's not worth trying anything else in my opinion,and then you know that I'm done with IS.

it's very likely that I'm screwed!

danielvisuals · « **Reply #1310 on:** January 20, 2025, 17:41 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on January 20, 2025, 17:28

...if I was still at least 40 years old....

I just turned 40 ! I have a lifetime of uploads ahead of me

cobalt · « **Reply #1311 on:** January 20, 2025, 23:12 »

@injustice,

my suggestion for your case would be to add a lot more camera video and upload via blackboxglobal.

bb removes any direct problems with agencies. as you know I no longer have a port on ss because they deleted me. and with adobe i am always scared that the hunter killer algo hits my port.

they are also on platforms like storyblocks, the elements video marketplace on envato, they are on vimeo and will probably keep adding new partners that as an individual producer i cannot reach.

if you look in their facebookgroup, people are now beginning to make very nice reliable income after adding thousands of clips over the last 4 years.

For sales on Adobe…I think it is obvious that something about what you upload is not the right content for regular sales.

Taking a break for maybe 3 months and trying to refocus is usually a good idea.

perhaps also go back to doing more camerawork instead of ai, because it will now have less competition and the content can earn dataset licenses.

there is a lot of useful content that is missing over all agencies, but it takes time to find little niches.

I sincerly wish you all the best and I do believe you will find a way to turn things around.

Every crisis is an opportunity and the buyers will be back end of January.

eta

yesterday i had 25 dl on adobe, 11 ai, 13 camera, pos 3080, 7630 files

I hope today will be better.

danielvisuals · « **Reply #1312 on:** January 21, 2025, 03:00 »

Quote from: cobalt on January 20, 2025, 23:12

@injustice,

they are also on platforms like storyblocks, the elements video marketplace on envato, they are on vimeo and will probably keep adding new partners that as an individual producer i cannot reach.

Are you sure that they are available on Storyblocks? If so, that might be a good reason to consider contributing to BB.

Since I also contribute to Artlist, I'm curious if I can submit footage to both BB and Artlist, given that BB doesn't submit footage to Artlist.

Does anyone knows if BB uses Payoneer for payments?

Also, I noticed that BB’s portfolio on SS is around 2 million videos, while on Istock it’s only about half a million videos. Why would they have four times less videos on istock that on SS?

cobalt · « **Reply #1313 on:** January 21, 2025, 05:31 »

you are right, my mistake, I thought I saw my files on storyblocks via bb, but they are not. somebody else uploaded some messy food shots that looks nearly exactly like mine.

but i wouldn't be surprised if they get added at some point.

as for istock, bb has lots of editorial content and i think istock does not accept most editorial from external producers, they only take that from their own people.

also istock was added later so some content might have been uploaded by producers directly and i am sure they have filters to sort out duplicates.

the bb collection is also not the same size everywhere, some agencies only take a selection.

but I think bb is a very good offer and I find that my files get ranked higher than if I upload myself. they simply have a much bigger volume.

I send all editorial to them and I am still trying to find a sensible distinction by genre what i should add myself.

It is very seductive to just give them all videos, but I still want to have some content directly.

sales are very stable, last year i only added 20 clips and I had the same income as the year before when i added more.

my port is still small with 550 clips. Hoping to add at least 1000 this year. Ideally 2k, but we will see.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #1314 on:** January 21, 2025, 06:38 »

Quote from: danielvisuals on January 20, 2025, 17:41

Quote from: Injustice for all on January 20, 2025, 17:28
...if I was still at least 40 years old....

I just turned 40 ! I have a lifetime of uploads ahead of me

that's right,you're lucky!

I started in microstock at 43 years old,almost seven years ago.

I've been taking photos since I was 13,I bought my first reflex,Yashica fx-3 s2000,it was the end of the 80s.

ironic how at the time I could afford to buy all the equipment I wanted,and it was just a hobby,but today it has become very,very difficult to do anything.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #1315 on:** January 21, 2025, 06:59 »

@Cobalt

thanks for the advice,I have a portfolio similar in number to yours,active on Adobe for almost 7 years,and yesterday I made 0 sales,last week even a couple of days 0 sales,today still 0 sales so far...it doesn't make any sense!

on Istock I was making 40-50 sales a day after only 6 months of starting,among my most successful contents was a mock-up of a device that I sold around 3500 times in a couple of years.

the same mock-up that I have sold on Istock thousands of times,has only been sold 13 times on Adobe in almost 7 years!

I really don't think that the reason why I sell little on Adobe is my content,also because it doesn't explain how it is possible that I then have short periods in which I sell much more.

last year on Adobe I sold different content from what I sell now,that is,what I sell changes,but the result in numbers does not change.

all this doesn't make any sense,I should sell much more than I sell,it really seems that my portfolio is traveling with the handbrake on.

anyway I'm tired,I don't see concrete results,I don't care what the reason is anymore,I'm just tired.

perhaps soon this portfolio will be unlocked,I can only hope so.

in the meantime,as I said,I think the time has come to take a long break,until I see more concrete results,if ever.

I wish you all the best,I hope we will have the opportunity to talk again.

ciao!

cobalt · « **Reply #1316 on:** January 21, 2025, 07:35 »

You really need a break.

I have files that sold over 10 000 times on istock that sold less than 30 times on Adobe.

Sometimes it is just poor luck, your file went live at the right time of day, at a moment when this kind of content was going viral on social media or something.

I can understand it feels like somebody is personally out to get you or holding your port back, but realistically it makes absolutely no sense.

Customers are the driving force of all algos.

But there are differencies between agencies.

On istock I sell a lot of "natural" looking content, matte or subdued colors, often also messy real life.

On Adobe it must be vivid, contrasty, very clean composition and very extreme amount of copy space.

Similar for SS when I still had a port there, lots of files that were bestsellers on istock, never even got accepted on Shutterstock.

For Adobe I cahnged my processing to finally get a good acceptance rate. I also started downsizing my files to around 6mp, because otherwise I would get rejections for focus...

Take your break, but I am sure you will be back.

danielvisuals · « **Reply #1317 on:** January 21, 2025, 08:03 »

Quote from: cobalt on January 21, 2025, 05:31

as for istock, bb has lots of editorial content and i think istock does not accept most editorial from external producers, they only take that from their own people.

also istock was added later so some content might have been uploaded by producers directly and i am sure they have filters to sort out duplicates.

but I think bb is a very good offer and I find that my files get ranked higher than if I upload myself. they simply have a much bigger volume.

I send all editorial to them and I am still trying to find a sensible distinction by genre what i should add myself.

It is very seductive to just give them all videos, but I still want to have some content directly.

sales are very stable, last year i only added 20 clips and I had the same income as the year before when i added more.

my port is still small with 550 clips. Hoping to add at least 1000 this year. Ideally 2k, but we will see.

Istock doesn't accept editorials from external producers? Well, then It makes sense now why the BB portfolio on iStock is much smaller than on Shutterstock. Also, like you said, I found some footage from BB's portfolio uploaded by the actual author on iStock.

I also find BB quite appealing, especially with its better rankings and increased earnings. On one hand, I appreciate the freedom of having my own portfolios, but on the other hand, I feel like I'm missing out on potential earnings. I'll think about it.

However, I am uneasy about having my content on Freepik; that may be a dealbreaker for me.

cobalt · « **Reply #1318 on:** January 21, 2025, 08:27 »

I trust the BB team. If they feel freepik is a good add on, they will have their reasons.

I do hope they make it into storyblocks, even if it is just selected content and not everything.

eta

pos 3110

At 5pm europe today 24 dl, 18 ai, 6 camera so far.

eta 2

9:30 pm, 36 dl, 22 ai, 14 camera

cascoly · « **Reply #1319 on:** January 21, 2025, 19:55 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on January 20, 2025, 17:28

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unfortunately,as I have already said,if I was still at least 40 years old,I still had time,but now at almost 50 years old I no longer have time.

this is a subjective thing,it depends on one's condition,if I had a different situation,I could certainly still afford to wait a few years,but unfortunately it is not my situation.

as I already told you,in the first 20 days of January 2024 I made the exact same number of sales that I have now made in the first 20 days of January 2025,the exact same number of sales,It's definitely not a coincidence,it just can't be statistically.

so it seems clear to me that I will still have to wait a few years before seeing concrete/acceptable results,if ever.

....

I will continue to monitor the situation,if/when I start to see at least a similar number of sales to November,I will resume uploading....

it's very likely that I'm screwed!

at 50 you don't have the time, young'un? wait till you're 25 yrs older, like me

statistically there's no reason identical results shouldn't happen. low probability, but not impossible.
and if you wait to see improvement before uploading more, you're ensuring you won't get the results you want. what % of your previous portfolio did you upload last year?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #1320 on:** January 22, 2025, 12:30 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on January 20, 2025, 17:28

as I already told you,in the first 20 days of January 2024 I made the exact same number of sales that I have now made in the first 20 days of January 2025,the exact same number of sales,It's definitely not a coincidence,it just can't be statistically.

Why not? Same sales, or same income? How about after 22 days?

Hopefully more money in any case.

cobalt · « **Reply #1321 on:** January 22, 2025, 14:06 »

Today I reached the sales of January 2024 on Adobe. So now I have 8 days left to add to it.

My weekly rank has improved a bit to pos 2800.

today so far 35 dl, 20 ai, 15 camera

MPfoto71 · « **Reply #1322 on:** January 22, 2025, 16:27 »

@cobalt:
That looks very good after all - 8 days “in the plus” is good!

Unfortunately, it looks the other way around for me...
- in January 25 I had 322 DL so far
- in January 24 (on the same day) I had 480 DL

The curve shows a steady downward trend (with some ups and downs), although I have uploaded like never before.

In 2024 I started with 35,675 files and on 12/31/2024 there were 49,052 - of which about 3,000 photos, 2,500 videos (AI and real mixed), 9,000 AI images. I know my photos aren't that good, I'm just not a photographer, but at least with AI images I know what I'm doing to some extent, but somehow it's not going up.
The only area where I see a slight increase is videos.

Overall, there have been three major changes in the last 12 months, which are probably due to changes in the search:
-> there was a change on March 30, from then on a whole lot of my bestsellers disappeared into nothingness from one day to the next
-> on October 8, some of these images suddenly reappeared in the sales
-> at the beginning of January 25, the AI images were switched off from the customer search for 3 1/2 days (as a default state), which had a lasting effect on the ranking of some images

For example, if you search for this “exclude AI” on the German AS site for dog or cat, only 8-10 of the first 100 images are AI (previously these were 30-40 of the first 100) - this is not intended as a rating, just an observation.

So it's quite clear to see that AI is no longer so prominent and if you were to ask me off the record, that was exactly the plan of the 3 1/2 day exclusion of AI images - because if we are honest with ourselves, we all know that the interest of the platform operator is solely the customers and not the providers

cobalt · « **Reply #1323 on:** January 22, 2025, 16:50 »

If the new mix works better for the customers, then this is the way it should be. Producers are free to balance by adding more camera content.

I also have no official degree in art or photography. But I did take a lot of classes and learnt from the pros at various stock events.

My main expertise is understanding what is useful for the customers, which comes from practical marketing/trade shows experience.

You can improve your photos quite quickly if you take a few classes. It is not magic, just a learned skill.

You can use your ai series as a mood board and lead for composition, colors and overall design.

Follow the composition and lighting of your best sold ai to create great camera shots.

Otherwise, perhaps sticking to video for a while and especially camera video content that can be sent to all agencies, is a good idea.

How are your ai people images doing? I really like them very much because they look so authentic. They don't have the depressing dark midjourney vibe they are very warm and alive.

I would buy them.

eta

my adobe downloads are still 8% below January 24. But in money I surpassed last years value today.

MPfoto71 · « **Reply #1324 on:** January 22, 2025, 17:35 »

I agree with you - there should be a balance, currently it is not in balance after the Exlude AI, but it will regulate itself.

The problem with my photos is probably that most of them are rather boring and past the customer, I know that too - and I don't photograph people as a matter of principle (because I don't like people) ;-)

To your question about my People AI images - they are currently running let's say mediocrely, 6 of my top 20 AI images have something to do with people, the rest are more topic-related concept images (like green footprint and such topics).

Which is a sobering realization for me:
-> 13,500 new files accepted in one year wasn't enough to boost my downloads
-> according to my calculations, I would have needed about 16,000 new files in 2024 just to keep my downloads, in 2025 it will probably have to be between 20,000 and 25,000 new files - that's really hard to do, you can't beat the flood of AI image farms

But luckily my Canon R8 + 24-105 F4.0 has just arrived - I can now take decent photos again

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