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Agency Based Discussion => General - Top Sites => Topic started by: fintastique on July 31, 2006, 10:00

Title: How many images
Post by: fintastique on July 31, 2006, 10:00
I thought I would start a new thread as its no longer a case of istock vs Shutterstock
(24th July) [17th July]

1 Fotolia               1,013,804 (977,382)  [944,904] increase 36,422
2 istock                 956,000 (940,763)  [926,538] increase 15,237
3 Shutterstock       923,690 (906,228) [891,452] increase 17,462

4 Dreamstime         520,000* (510,000) [490,000+] increase 10,000 *27th July
5 Big Stock Photo   430,000 (424,000) [417,000] increase 6,000

6 123 rf                300,000+
7 Can Stock Photo  242,798 (240,520) [236,056] increase 2,278

8 Stockxpert          170,000?

9 Stockphotomedia  68,875 (67,325) [66,235]  increase 1,550
10 Featurepics        47,253 (43,962) increase 3,291
11 Gimmestock       46,260 (45,835) increase 425

Yes in a week Featurepics have overtaken Gimmestock and have a bigger increase than Can Stock.

FT at that rate of growth they could break 2 million in 6 months

Anyone tried to delete their account at Gimmestock??

Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on July 31, 2006, 10:24
thanks again for the info. It is nice to see an overview like this.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: madelaide on August 01, 2006, 16:39
Anyone tried to delete their account at Gimmestock??

Not yet, but I may in some months if it remains so bad.  The same goes for other sites such as Microstock, Area Image, Scandinavian Stock and SPM.

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on August 07, 2006, 01:44
Well its Monday the start of a new week so how are those microstock companies doing?

1 Fotolia              1,048,546 {1,013,804} (977,382)  inc 34,742
2 istock                 970,255 {956,000} (940,763)  increase 14,255
3 Shutterstock       940,323 {923,690} (906,228) increase 16,633

4 Dreamstime         530,000# {520,000*} (510,000)  incr 10,000 #1st August *27th July
5 Big Stock Photo   438,000 {430,000} (424,000) increase 8,000

6 123 rf                300,000+
7 Can Stock Photo  244,776 {242,798} (240,520)  increase 1,978

8 Stockxpert          170,000?

9 Stockphotomedia  69,765 {68,875} (67,325) increase 890
10 Featurepics        49,802 {47,253} (43,962) increase 2,549
11 Gimmestock       46,691 {46,260} (45,835) increase 431

So FT still double the number of new images of iStock + SS
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on August 14, 2006, 02:30
The start of another week looks like everyone is uploading their holiday snaps

1 Fotolia              1,085,190 [1,048,546] {1,013,804}   inc 36,644
2 istock                 988,501 [970,255] {956,000}   increase 18,246
3 Shutterstock       958,473 [940,323] {923,690}  increase 18,150

4 Dreamstime         550,000* [530,000#] {520,000} incr 20,000 *11th August #1st August
5 Big Stock Photo   446,000 [438,000] {430,000} increase 8,000

6 123 rf                300,000+
7 Can Stock Photo  248,429 [244,776] {242,798}   increase 3,653

8 Stockxpert          170,000?

9 Stockphotomedia  70,452 69,765 {68,875}  increase 687
10 Featurepics        52,037 49,802 {47,253}  increase 2235
11 Gimmestock       46,784 46,691 {46,260}  increase 93

Who is still uploading to Gimmestock can't be many though there is queue of 400 FT increases by 78% of their whole portfolio every week. I think for small sites its best not to post image numbers.

So maybe on Friday we shall the millionth image/(exclusive illustration) at iStock
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on August 16, 2006, 04:53
The latest Stockxpert newsletter reports that they now have over 200,000 images.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: StockManiac on August 31, 2006, 18:34
Since this hasn't been done in a few weeks (and I believe fintastique is away on business), I have decided to try my hand at this and give the latest figures.

Fintastique: I hope that you don't mind.

RankAgencyCurrent CountPrevious CountIncrease
1Fotolia1,195,7511,085,190110,561
2iStockphoto1,036,911988,50148,410
3Shutterstock1,006,608958,47348,135
4Dreamstime596,762550,000~46,762
5BigStockPhoto474,000446,000~28,000
6123RF400,000+300,000+???
7CanStockPhoto258,815248,42910,386
8Stockxpert211,893200,000+~11,893
9Stockphotomedia72,74670,4522,294
10Featurepics61,72652,0379,689
11Gimmestock47,37546,784591

Some thoughts:

Fotolia is still on a tear.
FeaturePics is gaining ground on Stockphotomedia
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Boylet on September 01, 2006, 01:02
Nice.... Thanks StockManiac  :)
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on September 01, 2006, 14:37
thanks :)
Title: How many images
Post by: fintastique on September 11, 2006, 10:15
I seem to have lost the original thread and i have missed a couple of weeks but here are the numbers today

FT 1,264,747
iS  1,055,075
SS 1,032,613

DT   610,000
BS    509,000
123  400,000
CanStockPhoto  264,470
StockXpert ??

SPM   73,091
FP     72,995
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on September 11, 2006, 11:12
yeah, where DID that thread go?

You started a new one after the istock vs shutterstock thread.. but i can't find it either.  Do you remember what it was called?
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on September 11, 2006, 11:13
found it :)

and have merged the two.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: CJPhoto on September 11, 2006, 11:33
I had a high rejection ratio in teh last batch at DT.  Are they getting picky now?  Accepted at most other sites so maybe they aren't playing the numbers game.

SS is catching istock slowly and FT continues to power away (depending on if you beleive their numbers - see other thread).
Title: comparing sites how many images
Post by: fintastique on September 18, 2006, 03:26
Leaf can you remind me where the other posts comparing number of images is hidden - wasn't there a search option here once?

FT  1,306,484
iS   1,076,000
SS  1,054,242
DT    620,000
BigStock   528,000
123  400,000+
CanStockPhoto  262,081
StockXpert 170,000+ ??
FP     79,169
SPM   75,122

So 123 finally register an increase they were stuck at 300,000 for months
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on September 18, 2006, 03:33
the search is now on the right hand side under UserTools.. the third option down.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on September 25, 2006, 09:09
Well I am away on business again in Calgary at the moment so thats why there is a late posting numbers in brackets are from 18th september
FT 1,353,879 (1,264,747)
iS  1,089,000 (1,055,075)
SS 1,076,738 (1,032,613)

DT   630,000 (610,000)
BS    549,000 (509,000)
123  400,000
CanStockPhoto  267,053 (264,470)
StockXpert 170,000 ??

SPM   75,506 (73,091)
FP     85,273 (72,995)

Not surprized at the big increase at BigStock they seem to have a very high acceptance rate at the moment.

Featurepics' big increase may be an artefact as the count may include adult images as I am using a different computer.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: StockManiac on September 25, 2006, 10:31
FYI: StockXpert is well over 210,000.  Not sure why you keep putting them back to 170,000.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: phildate on September 25, 2006, 19:03
BigStock recently recruited some 'temp' approvers to get through the Q hence the big jump in numbers
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on October 03, 2006, 02:54
The latest image count from Seattle.

Sorry to all StockXpert fans for undercounting their image base where are you getting this figure from? their newsletter? how do I subscribe?

FT 1,403,576 [1,353,879] (1,264,747)
iS  1,113,000 [1,089,000] (1,055,075)
SS 1,092,000 [1,076,738] (1,032,613)

DT   650,000 [630,000] (610,000)
BS    567,000 [549,000] (509,000)
123  400,000+
CanStockPhoto  276,377 [267,053] (264,470)
StockXpert 210,000+

FP     90,073 [ 85,273] (72,995)
SPM   77,168 [75,506] (73,091)

FP have slowed down a bit closing on on 100,000

BigStock still growing fast probably due to their temp reviewers being not fussy at all.

CanStockPhoto supposedly only a 7 day queue better than a 17 day

Yes my guide does need updating its on the list for the next rainy day

Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on October 03, 2006, 03:25
bigstock has allready 'layed off' their temp reviewers.  sometime last month.. but yeah, i am sure it helped their numbers jump
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on October 04, 2006, 05:44
Sorry to all StockXpert fans for undercounting their image base where are you getting this figure from? their newsletter? how do I subscribe?

The StockXpert newsletter just came out and says that they have over 270,000 images.  It looks like they are about to overtake CanStockPhoto shortly.

You can subscribe to the StockXpert newsletter by going to your account and editing your profile.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on October 10, 2006, 00:44
The latest figures from San Francisco

FT 1,450,802 {1,403,576} [1,353,879] (1,264,747)
iS  1,130,033 {1,113,000} [1,089,000] (1,055,075)
SS 1,109,124 {1,092,000} [1,076,738] (1,032,613)

DT   670,000 {650,000} [630,000] (610,000)
BS    582,000 {567,000} [549,000] (509,000)
123  400,000+
CanStockPhoto  280,870 {276,377} [267,053] (264,470)
StockXpert 270,000 {210,000+}

FP     93,659{90,073} [ 85,273] (72,995)
SPM   77,994 {77,168} [75,506] (73,091)

SPM starting to plateau most people must have given up on the swedes by now.

Yep StockXpert closing fast on CanStockPhoto though the latter have reduced their queue.

Thanks I will subscribe to this StockXpert newsletter to keep myself up todate


Title: Re: How many images
Post by: StockManiac on October 10, 2006, 09:30
I think that a disclaimer should be added to the Fotolia #s.

It seems pretty obvious that they don't have as many images online as they claim.  The true # of images is probably somewhere around 60-70% of their claim (I base this % on their approximate overall acceptance rate).
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on October 10, 2006, 09:35
I suspect FT are including their free images maybe why they didn't make that big a fuss about reached 1,000,000 - no prizes.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: StockManiac on October 10, 2006, 09:52
I suspect FT are including their free images maybe why they didn't make that big a fuss about reached 1,000,000 - no prizes.

That is precisely why I think that there should be a disclaimer.  If you added free images to Stockxpert, then they would have over 500,000 images, and jump two positions (on your chart) ending up in 6th place.

I personally think that they are just displaying the # of images that have been submitted, because the # of images that they claim (1,453,900) is very close to the highest image # that has been accepted (1,448,884).

But however they calculate their #, it is obvious that is not the true amount of images for sale on their website.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on October 16, 2006, 23:37
The latest figures from DC previous weeks in various brackets.

FT 1,498,244 (1,450,802) {1,403,576} [1,353,879] #
iS  1,151,220 (1,130,033) {1,113,000} [1,089,000]
SS 1,131,377 (1,109,124) {1,092,000} [1,076,738]

DT   690,000 (670,000) {650,000} [630,000]
BS    597,000 (582,000) {567,000} [549,000]
123  400,000+
CanStockPhoto  284,716 (280,870) {276,377} [267,053]
StockXpert 270,000 {210,000+} &

FP     98,370 (93,659){90,073} [ 85,273] *
SPM  79,183 (77,994) {77,168} [75,506]

# their claimed number of images
& sorry forgot to sign up for their newsletter so out of touch
* soon to break 100,000 I wonder if there will be another give away.

Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on October 24, 2006, 08:29
typing this al fresco in Byrant Park NYC its 6 C the places I have to go to get free wifi.

Finally got a payout from CanStockPhoto I was stuck at $49.85 for over a week

FT 1,548,375 [1,498,244] (1,450,802) {1,403,576} #
iS  1,171,971 [1,151,220] (1,130,033) {1,113,000}
SS 1,152,140  [1,131,377] (1,109,124) {1,092,000}

DT   710,000 [690,000] (670,000) {650,000}
BS   610,000 [597,000] (582,000) {567,000}
123  400,000+
CanStockPhoto  289,548 [284,716] (280,870) {276,377}
StockXpert ?? [270,000] {210,000+} &

FP     103,668 [98,370] (93,659){90,073}
SPM  80,401 [79,183] (77,994) {77,168}
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on October 30, 2006, 09:49
The latest figures from Boston

FT 1,596,814 {1,548,375} [1,498,244] (1,450,802) #
iS  1,188,000 {1,171,971} [1,151,220] (1,130,033)
SS 1,170,784 {1,152,140}  [1,131,377] (1,109,124)

DT   720,000 {710,000} [690,000] (670,000) %
BS   625,000 {610,000} [597,000] (582,000) {567,000}
123  400,000+
CanStockPhoto  294,977 {289,548} [284,716] (280,870) {276,377}
StockXpert ?? [270,000] {210,000+} &

FP     106,662 {103,668} [98,370] (93,659) *
SPM  80,401 [79,183] (77,994) {77,168}
% should be hitting 730,000 any minute
* apparently I submitted their 100,000 image as well so I get a mystery gift

Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on November 06, 2006, 00:56
I thought I would be early for a change

FT 1,646,842 (1,596,814) {1,548,375} [1,498,244]
iS  1,198,039 (1,188,000) {1,171,971} [1,151,220] #
SS 1,190,375 (1,170,784) {1,152,140}  [1,131,377]

DT   730,000 (720,000) {710,000} [690,000]*
BS   635,000 (625,000) {610,000} [597,000]
123  500,000+
StockXpert 320,000 [270,000] {210,000+}
CanStockPhoto  300,588 (294,977) {289,548} [284,716]


FP     111,866 (106,662) {103,668} [98,370]
SPM  83,173 (80,401) [79,183] (77,994) {77,168}

# SS seem to be closing the gap between them and iS
* should reach 740,000 very soon
123 were stuck at 300,000 for an age then jumped to 400k and now 500k
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Bateleur on November 06, 2006, 01:46

# SS seem to be closing the gap between them and iS


I wonder if that's because of the major hassle now involved in 'tagging' (as they call it) when submitting to iStock. I know my heart sinks when I see that long list and a load of 'Did you mean?'s when I come to sort out my keywords on IS
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on November 06, 2006, 05:27

# SS seem to be closing the gap between them and iS


I wonder if that's because of the major hassle now involved in 'tagging' (as they cal it) when submitting to iStock. I know my heart sinks when I see that long list and a load of 'Did you mean?'s

They've been closing the gap for quite some time now, but the new tagging system probably does help...
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on November 07, 2006, 14:05
The StockXpert newsletter just came out and they reported over 320,000 images online.

So this now moves them up a spot (above CanStockPhoto) into 7th place.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on November 13, 2006, 04:13
FT 1,699,561 [1,646,842] (1,596,814) {1,548,375}
iS  1,222,000 [1,198,039] (1,188,000) {1,171,971}
SS 1,211,677 [1,190,375] (1,170,784) {1,152,140}

DT   750,000 [730,000] (720,000) {710,000}
BS   655,000 [635,000] (625,000) {610,000}
123  500,000+
StockXpert 320,000+ [320,000] [270,000] {210,000+}
CanStockPhoto  305,771 [300,588] (294,977) {289,548}

FP    118,227 [ 111,866] (106,662) {103,668}
SPM  84,401 [83,173] (80,401) [79,183]

So by the look of things FT will reach 2 million (claimed images) before DT reach the 1 M. Talk about a build up they are still about 3 months away. Maybe they are trying to stir up a surge of uploads to keep ahead of BigStock who have a worryingly high acceptance rate these days.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on November 13, 2006, 05:47
thanks again for the images update.

I really am curious how fotolia is counting their images.  I know they have been asked numerous times, but they just sort of avoid the question.  They sure don't have that many images when you try and search for things.  i.e. the number of results that come up when you search for "student" and compare the results between istock, fotolia, and shutterstock.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: XeniaII on November 20, 2006, 20:22
thats right the search engin is awful.. sorry im from germany my english is bad... but fotolia is my best site there I sold Images for 200 euros a month shutterstock only 150
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: snem on November 21, 2006, 05:12
Maybe out of topic, maybe useful, but I think you shold notice this:
Web Rank by Alexa.com
Daily reach per million (averages by myself... in alexa there are graphs my months)
IS 1800
DT 450
SS 400
FT 220
BS 220

Please keep in mind these are averages by myself and they are only orientative, just to notice IS has four times visitors than DT and SS, and DT and SS have two times visitors than FT and BS.
I hope this will be useful,
Regards
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: CJPhoto on November 21, 2006, 07:07
The problem with Alexa ratings are:

1. they only survey people who have their search bar.
2. they include photographers as well.  Not sure if they count unique hits but if someone goes to the site 5 times a day to check there stats, is that one hit or 5?

Interesting none the less.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on November 21, 2006, 07:11
i don't really see the problem with the fact that alexa only measures the hits for people with their search bar.  it still accuratly shows the visits on one site in relation to another site.

hits from checking stats and forum posting is another thing however.  dunno how that is measured.  I believe though, when measuring reach, that person who looked at 10 pages, still only counts as one.  they have another stat that states how many page views each visitor had.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: CJPhoto on November 21, 2006, 08:26
i don't really see the problem with the fact that alexa only measures the hits for people with their search bar. it still accuratly shows the visits on one site in relation to another site.
Agree but, business are less likely to use an alexa bar (maybe i am wrong) so this is skewed towards individuals (submitters??).  Sampling is fine but does the use of the alexa bar make it a random sample or does it favour certain demographics (ie is it more of a US thing?  is it more individuals rather than corporates etc).

Will start a new thread.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on November 21, 2006, 08:39
yeah the us thing could be a valid argument.

But if for example it favoured desingers, and did not favour photographers, it would still give a accurate representation accross the various microstock sites, as probably the same ratio of designers to photographers are on each site... the same demographics....... maybe

however it would not work to compare a design forum against a photography forum, because the sites will not have the same demographics.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on November 27, 2006, 05:33
Todays number count and those from {last Tuesday} I had internet access problems last week.

FT 1,808,588 {1,762,858} [1,646,842] (1,596,814)
iS  1,254,000 {1,240,000} [1,198,039] (1,188,000)
SS 1,251,643 {1,236,558} [1,190,375] (1,170,784) #

DT   780,000 {770,000} [730,000] (720,000)
BS   700,000 {679,000} [635,000] (625,000)
123  500,000+
StockXpert ?? [320,000] [270,000]
CanStockPhoto  316,290 {312,239} [300,588] (294,977)


FP     128,134 {124,197} [111,866] (106,662)
SPM  88,260 {87,212} [83,173] (80,401)

# SS may finally overtake iS
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on December 04, 2006, 05:02
FT 1,859,058 (1,808,588) {1,762,858} [1,646,842] 
SS 1,272,275 (1,251,643) {1,236,558} [1,190,375]  #
iS   1,269,000 (1,254,000) {1,240,000} [1,198,039]

DT   800,000 (780,000) {770,000} [730,000]
BS   717,000 (700,000) {679,000} [635,000] 
123  500,000+
StockXpert 332,000 [320,000] [270,000]
CanStockPhoto  322,633 (316,290) {312,239} [300,588]

FP    134,013 (128,134) {124,197} [111,866]
SPM  89,913 (88,260) {87,212} [83,173]

# SS finally overtake iStock

I finally signed up for the StockXpert newsletter so I can now give them accurate figures
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on December 04, 2006, 05:03
thanks for the update. i see shutterstock has finally pass istock.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on December 04, 2006, 06:18
I finally signed up for the StockXpert newsletter so I can now give them accurate figures

Ironically, the new StockXpert Newsletter didn't contain the # of images in their library.

But they now have over 322,000 images in their library.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Bateleur on December 04, 2006, 12:32
thanks for the update. i see shutterstock has finally pass istock.

I'm not surprised. I suspect iS are losing photographers, the way they treat them.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on December 11, 2006, 04:37
FT 1,906,092 [1,859,058] (1,808,588) {1,762,858}
SS 1,290,258 [1,272,275] (1,251,643) {1,236,558}
iS   1,288,762 [1,269,000] (1,254,000) {1,240,000} 

DT   820,000 [800,000] (780,000) {770,000}
BS   736,000 [717,000] (700,000) {679,000} 
123  500,000+
StockXpert ?? [332,000] [320,000] [270,000]
CanStockPhoto  327,828 [322,633] (316,290) {312,239}

FP    139,019 [134,013] (128,134) {124,197}
SPM  91,555 [89,913] (88,260) {87,212}

Well it would seem FT will reach 2 million (claimed) images before DT reaches 1 million actual images.

I am surprized there isn't a bigger gap between SS and Istock probably the 15/week limit will start to take affect soon
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: ChrisRabior on December 11, 2006, 10:18
I am surprized there isn't a bigger gap between SS and Istock probably the 15/week limit will start to take affect soon

I'm not.  iStock seems to breeze through the Q for exclusives, and they can upload more than 15/week.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on December 11, 2006, 10:56
and they have about a billion members as apposed to only millions at shutterstock.

note: exageration may be present in this post.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on January 01, 2007, 11:09
I missed a couple of weeks being in away in an internet free void but its MOnday so here are the numbers

FT 2,038,858
SS 1,351,038
IS 1,335,000

DT   860,000
BigStock 781,000
123 500,000+

StockXpert 330,000 ++
CanStockPhoto 338,944
FP   151,184

SPM  94,308

When did Fotolia break 2 million?
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Milamber on January 01, 2007, 20:11
More importantly, what do those numbers mean? We shouldn't upload to IS, FT and SS because our images will get swamped in the mire, tougher competition, higher chances of rejections, harder to conceptualise new images, oversaturated market?

OR

We should upload to those sites because they're fast expanding which means they get noticed by buyers, that's where the buyers are, they take in almost anything to boost their database, sales are high on those sites and they're the best so photogs go there?

 ???
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: madelaide on January 01, 2007, 20:55
My images do quite well at FT, so I don't believe we get lost in the crowd, at least if our keywords are good.  My performance at IS is better after the disambiguation thing - I'm not sure it's a coincidence or not, given that despite this, there is still a lot of keyword spamming, so things are not perfect for a buyer yet (but he can now at least have some images out of his searches).

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: StockManiac on January 03, 2007, 08:31
FYI: LuckyOliver has over 126,000 images...
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on January 03, 2007, 09:49


When did Fotolia break 2 million?

good question.  So much for any sort of party :P
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on January 08, 2007, 04:50
The usual weekly update

FT 2,091,567 [2,038,858] +52,709
SS 1,370,882 [1,351,038] +19,844
IS 1,352,660 [1,335,000] +17,660

DT   870,000* [860,000] +10,000
BigStock 795,000 [781,000] +14,000
123 [500,000+]

StockXpert 360,625
CanStockPhoto 343,705 [338,944] +4,761
FP   157,296 [151,184] +6,112

SPM  95,301 [94,308] +993

*4th Jan figure so BigStock aren't catching up on DT as fast as you would think

What does it all mean?

Not a lot but at least you can see which sites still have photographers confidence and are continuing to upload.

Regarding FT's 2 million images I strongly suspect (and I am sure I am not alone) they count their free images so there isn't really 2 million images for your images to be lost in though for popular subjects on any site good keywording is vital.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on January 08, 2007, 06:24
FYI: StockXpert now has 360,625 images online...
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on January 15, 2007, 03:19
Another week has passed and here are the numbers

FT 2,144,384 (2,091,567) [2,038,858] +52,817
SS 1,391,148 (1,370,882) [1,351,038] +20,266
IS 1,368,672 (1,352,660) [1,335,000] +16,012

DT   890,000 (870,000)* [860,000] +20,000
BigStock 808,000 (795,000) [781,000] +13,000
123 [500,000+]

StockXpert (360,625)
CanStockPhoto 348,447 (343,705) [338,944] +4,761
FP   162,464 (157,296) [151,184] +6,112

SPM  97,535 (95,301) [94,308] +2,234
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on January 15, 2007, 07:14
FYI:

StockXpert has 366,318 images
LO has 137,843 images
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on January 22, 2007, 03:57

SS 1,412, 948 [1,391,148] (1,370,882)  +21,800
IS  1,388,436 [1,368,672] (1,352,660)  +19,764
FT  2,202,564* [2,144,384] (2,091,567)  +58,180

DT   910,000 [890,000] (870,000)#  +20,000
BigStock 824,000 [808,000] (795,000)  +16,000
123 [500,000+]

StockXpert 366,318 (360,625)
CanStockPhoto 352,366 [348,447] (343,705)  +3,919
FP   168,880 [162,464] (157,296)  +6,416

SPM  98,410 [97,535] (95,301)  +875

* Finally decided to disregard FT claimed number of images in fact they may be lower than DT.

Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on January 22, 2007, 04:38
why fotolia continues to toot their horn with all those images when they don't really have that many (in comparison to how everyone else counts their images) is beyond me.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on January 29, 2007, 03:33
SS 1,438,626 (1,412, 948) [1,391,148] +25,678
IS  1,400,585 (1,388,436) [1,368,672] +12,149
FT  2,262,808,(2,202,564) [2,144,384] +60,244

DT   930,000 (910,000) [890,000] +20,000
BigStock 838,000 (824,000) [808,000] +14,000
123 [500,000+]

StockXpert ?? (366,318) (360,625)
CanStockPhoto 358,099 (352,366) [348,447] +5,733
FP   173,744 (168,880) [162,464] +4,864

SPM  100,699 (98,410) [97,535] +2,289

I was having a great month at iStock so I decided to give them a second chance and went back and DA all my fles and now sales have collapsed  :'( (still their best month ever)
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: t_rust on January 29, 2007, 15:38
Interesting data. I also read that IS has over 30k images in the queue. IS has 25k added last week alone.

And in the SS forum even some contributors with large portfolios start to notice a slowdown (while uploading more images).  http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16101&start=0

Seems that things start to get crazy on the supply side of the business.
Whats your experience?

My sales went up in Jan, but I increased my portfolio a lot as well in Dec/Jan.


Regards,
T
http://tr-photo-blog.blogspot.com
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: epixx on January 29, 2007, 19:54
Seems that things start to get crazy on the supply side of the business.
Whats your experience?

This market is bound to become over-saturated. Not only are there increasing numbers of photographers, but they all seem to upload the same technically perfect but conceptually boring photos that they believe will become best-sellers.

The challenge to survive with increasing sales will be to see into the future, and find new areas, new angles and new motives. Smiling pretty girl with headphones apparently sells very well, but there is a limit as to how many are needed, I guess.

For the agencies, the challenge will be to find new markets, both with regards to types of customers, but even more with regards to geography. From the download time of day, it's easy to see that most of the downloads are in America, so Europe is lagging behind here. Even more so is Asia, where more than half of the world population lives. Many Asian countries are relatively poor, but not all, and it's a huge market with different needs and a different taste from the western hemisphere.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: MiguelAngelo on January 29, 2007, 22:50
I really don't think that things have already to start crazy.
I guess it will become harder and harder to submit those headphones smiling babes, or those "really rare" American flags or flowers.
But there is a lot of room for new images and there are some unexploited areas.
The real problem for me is when buyers start to really complain about keyword spam.

The other day I did a search i can't remember where for "water background" and guess what, the first pic i got (first line, left column) was some pretty naked girl laying on her back

I guess we can expect some hard rejections in the future but not as soon as one can think.

The markets thing will be a natural development of this business model and I guess with time more and more European and Asian clients will arrive.

I guess and hope this will be a very competitive but profitable market in the future
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on February 01, 2007, 07:53
LO currently has over 165,000...
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on February 05, 2007, 04:20
Its Monday morning how have those microstock grown since last week

SS 1,464,442 [1,438,626 (1,412, 948) +25,816
IS  1,421,002 [1,400,585] (1,388,436) +20,417
FT  2,321,582 [2,262,808] (2,202,564) +58,774

DT   940,000 [930,000] (910,000) +10,000
BigStock 850,000 [838,000] (824,000) +12,000
123 [500,000+]

StockXpert ?? (366,318) (360,625)
CanStockPhoto 362,349 [358,099 (352,366) +4,250
FP   180,928 [173,744] (168,880) +7,184

SPM  101,779 [100,699] (98,410) +1,080
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on February 12, 2007, 04:21
Its Monday so its count those images time not sure what was going on at iStock

SS 1,498,102 (1,464,442) [1,438,626] +33,660
IS  1,429,000 (1,421,002) [1,400,585]  +7,998
FT  2,379,735 (2,321,582) [2,262,808] +58,153

DT   960,000 (940,000) [930,000] +20,000
BigStock 867,000 (850,000) [838,000]  +17,000
123 [500,000+]

StockXpert ?? (366,318)
CanStockPhoto 366,648 (362,349) [358,099  +4,299
FP   187,216 (180,928) [173,744] +6,288

SPM  104,102 (101,779) [100,699] +2,323
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Bateleur on February 12, 2007, 04:32

... not sure what was going on at iStock ...


I've had a wodge of images approved at IS these past few days. They show up on my file management page but not in my portfolio. Nor do they appear when I search on their keywords. (And we're well outside the 24hr they allow for the database to be updated.)

I don't know if this affects the numbers, but if this is happening to everybody then thousands of images must be 'missing'
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on February 12, 2007, 05:01
thanks again for the update.  Shutterstock is really moving fast.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on February 12, 2007, 06:08
StockXpert now has over 448,000 images.

That is quite a jump (82,000) from last time (366,000 on 1/15). Maybe that is one reason why they are rejecting so many images recently.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on February 12, 2007, 06:13
I've had a wodge of images approved at IS these past few days. They show up on my file management page but not in my portfolio. Nor do they appear when I search on their keywords. (And we're well outside the 24hr they allow for the database to be updated.)

I don't know if this affects the numbers, but if this is happening to everybody then thousands of images must be 'missing'


Interesting, I appear to be having the same problem with a few of my images.  I have a few photos that were accepted last week and they are not searchable either.  One was accepted on 02/07 (#2821552) and the other on 02/08 (#2827143).  Neither are findable via the search engine.

Have you reported this to admin?

EDIT: Just found a thread on IS.  Admin is aware of the problem.  Here is the thread in case anyone is interested:

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=47297&page=1
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Bateleur on February 12, 2007, 08:20
I wonder if IS have some new 'improvement' up their sleeve, and this is why there's a lag.

Yikes!   :-\
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on February 26, 2007, 05:11
Sorry for missing last Monday counting exercise down in London and couldn't face this with a 56 K modem


SS 1,549,608 [1,498,102] (1,464,442)  +51,506
IS  1,478,000 [1,429,000] (1,421,002)  +49,000
FT  2,500,308 [2,379,735] (2,321,582)  +120,573

DT   1,000,000 [960,000] (940,000) +40,000 *
BigStock 900,000 [867,000] (850,000)   +33,000 #

123 [500,000+]
StockXpert 448,000+

CanStockPhoto 376,738 [366,648] (362,349)  +10,090
FP   201,625 [187,216] (180,928)  +14,409

SPM  109,532 [104,102] (101,779) +5,430

* well it finally happened and a newbie at DT got the prize just 23 files all uploaded in February. I see the next prize is pretty cool as well a 30 GB iPod.

Though the new prices at DT have yet to start  :'(

# finally started accepting vector files though you can't upload eps files for previously accepted jpegs yet.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: grp_photo on March 01, 2007, 09:52
but they all seem to upload the same technically perfect but conceptually boring photos that they believe will become best-sellers.

;D ;D :D lol
But that's the Microstockcustomer obviously really want's i did see a few very orginal porfolios on Microstock but with depressing sales!

If you have a new idea be smart and don't upload it to microstock ;)
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on March 05, 2007, 04:25
Its Monday

SS 1,576,275 (1,549,608) [1,498,102]  +26,667
IS  1,500,000 (1,478,000 [1,429,000]   +22,000
FT  2,565,396 (2,500,308 [2,379,735]   +65,088

DT   ?? (1,000,000) [960,000]   *
BigStock 915,000 (900,000) [867,000]    +15,000

123 [500,000+]
StockXpert 448,000+

CanStockPhoto 380,495 (376,738) [366,648]   +3,757
FP   207,575 (201,625) [187,216]   +14,409

SPM  111,741 (109,532) [104,102]  +2,209

* supposed DT are now announcing and awarding for their 100,000 landmark images (hence the better prize)
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: madelaide on March 05, 2007, 17:12
How long ago did IS reach the 1million milestone?  It's on 1.5 now, so quickly, no?

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: hatman12 on March 05, 2007, 17:16
What I'd really like to know is how many total sales each agency makes each week.

But I suppose getting that info is impossible.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on March 05, 2007, 18:03
StockXpert now has over 478,000 images.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on March 12, 2007, 03:00
Another week has past

SS 1,599,558 [1,576,275] (1,549,608) +23,283
IS  1,520,000 [1,500,000] (1,478,000)  +20,000
FT  2,629,920 [2,565,396] (2,500,308) +64,524

DT   1,037,000   
BigStock 930,000 [915,000] (900,000) +15,000 #

123 600,000+
StockXpert 478,000

CanStockPhoto 384,777 [380,495] (376,738) +4,282
FP   213,250 [207,575] (201,625) +5,675

SPM  112,364 [111,741] (109,532)   +623

# so another 4-5 weeks and someone will win an ipod at BigStock
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: hatman12 on March 12, 2007, 15:44
Things seem to be slowing down at IS.

Waiting list at IS has reduced from 30,000 images to 20,000 and approval time has shrunk by a couple of days.

DT input seems to be rising.

SS still going strong and approval is fast and efficient (possibly automated).

Perhaps IS has recruited some additional inspectors.  Or the flow of new images has declined given the complex upload procedure.

Time will tell.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on March 26, 2007, 04:49
I was away in Oxford last Monday so I missed an image account for the usual suspects. Sorry for neglecting this forum of late I've been trying to catch up on my quota of uploads for the month after a slow start.

SS 1,642,594 (1,599,558)  [1,576,275] +43,036
IS  1,562,000 (1,520,000) [1,500,000]   +42,000
FT  2,757,211 (2,629,920) [2,565,396]  +127,291

DT   1,075,000 (1,037,000)  +38,000
BigStock 979,000 (930,000) [915,000]  +49,000 #

123 700,000+
StockXpert 478,000+

CanStockPhoto 391,000 (384,777) [380,495]  +6,223
FP   224,750 (213,250) [207,575]  +11,500

SPM  116,017 (112,364) [111,741]   +3,653

SS and iStock seem to be having similar growth
# someone should be winning an iPod here in the next week
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on April 02, 2007, 02:23
Its Monday here are the counts looks like two lucky people will win an new iPod sometime this week at DT and BigStock.

SS 1,671,459 [1,642,594] (1,599,558)   +28,865
IS  1,576,000 [1,562,000] (1,520,000)    +14,000
FT  2,820,839 [2,757,211] (2,629,920)   +63,628 *

DT   1,093,949 [1,075,000] (1,037,000)  +18,949
BigStock 997,000 [979,000] (930,000)   +18,000

123 700,000+
StockXpert 478,000+

CanStockPhoto 395,327 [391,000] (384,777)  +10,550
FP   229,550 [224,750] (213,250)   +4,800

SPM  117,583 [116,017] (112,364)    +1,566

* actually figure is probably 1.4 million or less
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on April 09, 2007, 02:48
SS 1,700,323 (1,671,459) [1,642,594]   +28,864
IS  1,600,474 (1,576,000) [1,562,000]    +24,474 #
FT  2,882,022 (2,820,839) [2,757,211]   +61,183

DT   1,113,908 (1,093,949) [1,075,000]  +19,959
BigStock 1,016,000 (997,000) [979,000]    +19,000

123 700,000+
StockXpert 478,000+

CanStockPhoto 401,392 (395,327) [391,000]   +6,065
FP   235,450 (229,550) [224,750]    +5,900
SPM  119,114 (117,583) [116,017]     +1,531

# reviewers obviously in a good mood accepting a few more pics than usual.

Well two ipods were won last week but not by me  :'(
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on April 09, 2007, 02:51
wow, 1.7 million allready.  I thought we were just counting down the race to 1 million.

no ipods for me either :(
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on April 16, 2007, 03:28
This weeks count

SS 1,729,719 [1,700,323] (1,671,459)    +29,396
IS  1,623,523 [1,600,474] (1,576,000)   +23,049
FT  2,949,800 [2,882,022] (2,820,839)   +67,778

DT   1,133,044 [1,113,908] (1,093,949)  +19,136
BigStock 1,033,000 [1,016,000] (997,000)   +17,000

123 700,000+
StockXpert 478,000+

CanStockPhoto 406,352 [401,392] (395,327)  +4,960
FP   241,950 [235,450] (229,550)     +6,500
SPM  119,626 [119,114] (117,583)     +512

So the race to 2 million starts SS in 9-10 weeks, iStock in 4 months and DT in about 10 months

Will FTP at CanStockPhoto revive the site? (probably not sales would help) finally got a payout there  ;D only took a year  :'(
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on April 23, 2007, 03:47
Another monday another image count

SS 1,756,414 (1,729,719) [1,700,323]     +26,695
IS  1,647,857 (1,623,523) [1,600,474]   +24,334
FT  3,020,674 (2,949,800) [2,882,022]    +70,874

DT   1,151,145 (1,133,044) [1,113,908]  +18,101
BigStock 1,048,000 (1,033,000) [1,016,000]    +15,000

123 700,000+++
StockXpert 478,000+++

CanStockPhoto 411,691 (406,352) [401,392]  +5,339
FP   249,000 (241,950) [235,450]     +7,050
SPM  121,266 (119,626) [119,114]     +1,640
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: CJPhoto on April 23, 2007, 05:55
Fotolia really needs to get serious about their numbers.  IF they were serious, they would have promoted the 3mill mark - or did I miss that?
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: ptlee on April 23, 2007, 15:47
3 mil???  :o
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: hatman12 on April 23, 2007, 17:13
I am concerned about FT quoting that number.  It may of course be correct, but I think there are sufficient doubts to suggest that it isn't.

As a recent new contributor to FT I am actually quite pleased with sales progress.  But I feel uncomfortable all the same; its something to do with this massive headline number and the fact that their forums seem to be controlled and edited like something from Nazi Germany (I do not contribute to their forums).

It has a taste of 'dishonesty' about it and I am concerned about that.

Having said these things, I am pleased to be able to see the customers who buy, and with clients like BDO Stoy Hayward, FT are clearly making some progress into the professional market.

But of all the agencies, this is the only one where I feel I cannot trust them; I have been in business a long time, and at my age one gets a feel for honesty or untrustworthiness.

Let's hope that FT will make a leap forward and start to address these things.  They certainly won't attract a large number of volume photographers unless they do.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on April 23, 2007, 18:04
It has been mentioned before and I will mention it FT state the number of "online images".  They don't claim to have 3 million images for sale

If a submitted image is accepted, rejected, made a free image or deleted by user a thumbnail is kept so is "online"
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: hatman12 on April 23, 2007, 18:15
Well I believe that in business one should play fair and at least not be misleading; 3 mill images 'online' implies 'for sale' and therefore appears to be deliberately misleading.

I think it would be appropriate for FT to actually state the number of images accepted and available for sale.  That would be the more professional approach.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on April 30, 2007, 02:33
SS 1,782,774 [1,756,414] (1,729,719)    +26,360
IS  1,667,000 [1,647,857] (1,623,523)   +19,143
FT  3,085,068 [3,020,674] (2,949,800)    +64,394

DT   1,170,948 [1,151,145] (1,133,044)  +19,803
BigStock 1,066,000 [1,048,000] (1,033,000)   +18,000

123 800,000+
StockXpert 569,397+  Thanks GeoPappas

CanStockPhoto 419,573 [411,691] (406,352)  +7,882
FP   254,250 [249,000] (241,950)     +5,250
SPM  123,015 [121,266] (119,626)    +1,749

Another iPod up for grabs at DT in about 10 days or so

just to warn you if anyone else makes it to $50 at CanStockPhoto I had to wait a week and CanStockPhoto didn't pay the fee so i got hit for the $2.25 charge  :'( . The only site I know that doesn't cover that cost.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Fortunefame on April 30, 2007, 02:57
just fyi - 123RF is 800000+ already
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on April 30, 2007, 06:05
StockXpert 478,000+++  anyone know?

StockXpert now has 569,397 images online.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on May 07, 2007, 05:14
SS 1,807,250 (1,782,774) [1,756,414]   +24,476
IS  1,685,000 (1,667,000)[1,647,857]   +18,000
FT  3,157,330 (3,085,068) [3,020,674]   +72,262

DT   1,190,475 (1,170,948) [1,151,145]  +19,527
BigStock 1,084,000 (1,066,000) [1,048,000]   +18,000

123 800,000+
StockXpert 569,397+ 

CanStockPhoto 428,234 (419,573) [411,691]  +8,661
FP   261,875 (254,250) [249,000]     +7,625
SPM  124,758 (123,015) [121,266]    +1,743

Some lucky contributor should win a new iPOd at DT by the end of the week. SS should break the 2 million mark in two months any news of a prize there?
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: sharpshot on May 07, 2007, 05:38
I think LO must have overtaken some of the sites on the list.  They reported reviewing 20,000 photos in a week.  Would be interesting to know how many they have now.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: StockManiac on May 07, 2007, 07:16
LO now has ~ 289,418 images.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on May 13, 2007, 15:37
I will be busy tomorrow so here are the numbers a few hours early

SS 1,834,159 [1,807,250] (1,782,774)  +26,909
IS  1,703,544 [1,685,000] (1,667,000)  +18,544
FT  3,226,856 [3,157,330] (3,085,068)  +69,526

DT   1,215,487 [1,190,475] (1,170,948)   +25,012
BigStock 1,102,000 [1,084,000] (1,066,000) +18,000

123 800,000+
StockXpert 569,397+ 

CanStockPhoto 434,467[428,234] (419,573) +6,233
FP   267,700 [261,875] (254,250) +5,825
SPM  [124,758] (123,015) +1,743
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: StockManiac on May 13, 2007, 17:15
In my opinion, Fotolia needs to be moved into 4th or 5th place.

A search for the keyword "flower" gave the following results:
SS: 143480
IS: 106227
DT: 65115
BigStock: 83571
FT: 9346

A search for the keyword "business" gave the following results:
SS: 144940
IS: 125148
DT: 114166
BigStock: 97204
FT: 9799

A search for the keyword "background" gave the following results:
SS: 435460
IS: 212687
DT: 307208
BigStock: 287812
FT: 9611

As you can see, Fotolia has far less images in their database for these popular searches than any of the other top sites.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on May 13, 2007, 18:20
Ft at position three was a guestimate they may be lower I thought 50% of their stated figure was reasonable.

I think that Fotolio has a 10,000 image ceiling on any search which gives misleading results in your searches plus they have a weighed keywords so for popular searches if a keyword isn't listed in the top 7 it won't be listed, I started obscure and then tried to widen the net.

Edinburgh castle
SS 199
IS 127
FT 108
DT 101
BigStock 104

Golden Gate Bridge
SS 728
IS 735
FT 507
DT 696
BigStock 689

New York City
SS 4777
IS 7856
FT 2186
DT 2593
BigStock 2462

London
SS 5453
IS 6570
FT 4509
DT 3732
BigStock 4213

man
SS 113,630
IS 131,917
FT 9,509
DT 89,341
BigStock 70,122

woman
SS 221,295
IS 214,625
FT 9,293
DT 166,086
BigStock 124,193

just goes to show the gender bias either designers want photos of women or photographers prefer taking pictures of women.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on May 13, 2007, 20:03
I think that Fotolio has a 10,000 image ceiling on any search which gives misleading results in your searches...

If that is true, then that means that a large % of the images in their database will never be found by a buyer.  For example, if there are 400,000 flower images in their database and only 10,000 are shown, then that means that 390,000 images will never be found (at least with that keyword).

...plus they have a weighed keywords so for popular searches if a keyword isn't listed in the top 7 it won't be listed, I started obscure and then tried to widen the net.

And if this is true, then why would they have us include more than 7 keywords???
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on May 14, 2007, 01:03
My final word on this for the moment FT are probably fifth I presume they must have attracted a lot of photographers and rejected far more images that I thought. There is a 10,000 result ceiling in searches but fear not as in more refined searches photos will appear I saw some of my spring illustrations in "flower london" along with a whole series of graffiti photos with not a flowers in sight, do we need property release for graffiti? I have photos rejected in the past because of tagging. 


flower
SS 143,480
IS 103,374
DT 65,115
FT 9,350
BigStock 83,907

yellow flower
SS 31,104
IS 23,509
DT 16,141
FT 9,486
BigStock 19,207

dutch flower
SS 1,015
IS 217
DT 585
FT 266
BigStock 524

american flower
SS 617
IS 588
DT 333
FT 261
BigStock 406

flower london
SS 88
IS 131
DT 48
FT 38
BigStock 88

Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on May 21, 2007, 03:07
How the mighty have fallen so now FT have been demoted to 5th place someday when I have teh time I will try to calculate how many images they may have based on searches that give less than 10,000 results and compare to the same search on different sites.

SS 1,864,043 (1,834,159) [1,807,250]   + 29,884
IS  1,728,000 (1,703,544) [1,685,000]  +24,456

DT   1,241,074 (1,215,487) [1,190,475]    +25,587
BigStock 1,121,000 (1,102,000) [1,084,000]   +19,000
FT  3,404,998 (3,226,856) [3,157,330]   +178,142 ???

123 800,000+
StockXpert 569,397+ 

CanStockPhoto 442,064 (434,467) [428,234] (419,573) +7,597
FP   273,600 (267,700) [261,875] (254,250) +5,900

I will be away for a few weeks so if anyone wants to take over this thread temporarily send me a site mail.

Looking at my sums after 20 days of May have elapsed this month should be the best month ever for me. Even if I don't include the funds for selling the rights for a photo at FT.

One positive note about FT they seem to have cleared their review backlog they were reviewing some last night just as I was adding the categories.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: CJPhoto on May 21, 2007, 06:52
It has been mentioned before and I will mention it FT state the number of "online images".  They don't claim to have 3 million images for sale

If a submitted image is accepted, rejected, made a free image or deleted by user a thumbnail is kept so is "online"
Online to me means online and avaliable.  It is not online if they are the only ones who can see it (ie rejected and delted files).  The free image theory also doesn't cut it given the large jump this week (there cant be that many giving images away free).

Are they simply multiplying by 6 (or however many different language versions they have?)
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on June 18, 2007, 02:59
Sorry to see but not surprized nobody filled in for me in my absence continuing this thread fingures in square brackets are from 4 weeks ago.
So 123 passed the 1 million mark was there a prize?

SS 1,971,332 [1,864,043] (1,834,159)
FT  1,961,129 [3,404,998] (3,226,856)
IS  1,813,000 [1,728,000] (1,703,544)

DT   1,300,000+ [1,241,074] (1,215,487)   
BigStock 1,179,000 [1,121,000] (1,102,000) 
 
123 1,000,000+ [800,000]+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 469,895 [442,064] (434,467)
FP   301,275 [273,600] (267,700)
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on June 25, 2007, 04:30
Figures in curved brackets from last week and square brackets from a month ago

SS 2,000,270 (1,971,332) [1,864,043]  +28,938
FT  1,958,929 (1,961,129) [3,404,998] -2,200
IS  1,835,818 (1,813,000) [1,728,000] +22,818

DT   1,418,362 (1,300,000+) [1,241,074] 
BigStock 1,203,000 (1,179,000) [1,121,000]  +24,000
 
123 1,000,000+ [800,000]+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 473,899 (469,895) [442,064] +4,004
FP   308,050 (301,275) [273,600] +6,775

Well SS broke the 2 million barrier no bells no whistles, I forget did they make a fuss of breaking 1 million.

Not sure what the next big milestone will be I suppose DT might have a decent give away for their 2 millionth image. I ma sure as soon as I buy a new mp3 player i will win one somewhere.

FT actually experienced shrinkage either miscounting or maybe their cull of old unloaded images. I am a bit concerned about this long wait to upload. Will everyone dump 1-2 weeks of images in one mammoth FTP upload one evening overloading the servers. Rather annoying as I have soe seasonal illustrations that won't get a chance to sell at this site

I noticed CanStockPhoto have celebrated three years in the business certainly one of slow performers
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on July 02, 2007, 07:16
SS 2,026,054 [2,000,270] (1,971,332) +25,784
FT   1,957,478 [1,958,929] (1,961,129) -1,451
IS  1,858,000 [1,835,818] (1,813,000) +22,182

DT   1,440,406 [1,418,362] (1,300,000+) +22,044
BigStock 1,214,000 [1,203,000] (1,179,000) +11,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 480,349 [473,899] (469,895) +6,450
FP   312,550 [308,050] (301,275) +4,500

The shrinkage of FT database continues not sure if they are reviewing yet but they are still deleting more than they are accepting.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on July 02, 2007, 10:56
wow, and shutterstock is plowing ahead like nobody's business.  Dreamstime as well for that matter.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on July 09, 2007, 03:03
SS 2,054,155 (2,026,054) [2,000,270] +28,101
FT   2,011,341 (1,957,478) [1,958,929]  +53,863
IS  1,883,538 (1,858,000) [1,835,818]  +25,538

DT   1,467,059 (1,440,406) [1,418,362]  +26,653
BigStock 1,225,000 (1,214,000) [1,203,000]  +11,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 485,507 (480,349) [473,899]  +5,158
FP   316,450 (312,550) [308,050]  +3,900

FT break the two million mark again the last time was January 2007, hopefully this is an accurate figure.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Freezingpictures on July 11, 2007, 02:27
Here is an Article about Dreamstime Industry record in Image submissions: http://animators.digitalmedianet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=160314
Apparently they seem to have grown faster then SS in June.. although the time when you fintastique submitted exact numbers of weekly additions they had a slower growth.. Amazing how fast they have grown. And it seems to be right if you look at the numbers of May 21 to July 9th. In this period DT had a faster growth than SS. Thanx for the numbers fintastique!
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on July 11, 2007, 02:39
yeah dreamstime seems to be doing well.  they are one of my favorites - a stable site, nice interface, and good payout.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on July 11, 2007, 06:11
Yep there were no accurate figures for the first half of June as I was out of internet access  :-[

A pity a few of the sites aren't inspired by some of their features such as autopopulate.

I had four $4 eps file sales at DT yesterday   ;D a pity the other sites don't charge as much.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on July 16, 2007, 03:44
SS 2,083,736 [2,054,155] (2,026,054) +29,581
FT   2,072,063 [2,011,341] (1,957,478) +60,722
IS  1,911,042 [1,883,538] (1,858,000) +27,504

DT  1,488,389  [1,467,059] (1,440,406) +21,330
BigStock 1,239,000 [1,225,000] (1,214,000) +14,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 490,116 [485,507] (480,349) +9,767
FP   320,775 [316,450] (312,550) +4,325

FT due to overtake SS again but this time for real?

Another iPod coming soon to one lucky contributor at DT
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on July 16, 2007, 04:15
SS 2,083,736 [2,054,155] (2,026,054) +29,581
FT   2,072,063 [2,011,341] (1,957,478) +60,722
IS  1,911,042 [1,883,538] (1,858,000) +27,504

DT  1,488,389  [1,467,059] (1,440,406) +21,330
BigStock 1,239,000 [1,225,000] (1,214,000) +14,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 490,116 [485,507] (480,349) +9,767
FP   320,775 [316,450] (312,550) +4,325

FT due to overtake SS again but this time for real?

Another iPod coming soon to one lucky contributor at DT

oohh looks like i should upload then :)
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on July 23, 2007, 02:51
SS 2,117,242 (2,083,736) [2,054,155]  +33,506
FT   2,109,741 (2,072,063) [2,011,341]  +37,678
IS  1,931,000 (1,911,042) [1,883,538]  +19,958

DT  1,511,911 (1,488,389)  [1,467,059]  +23,522
BigStock 1,253,000 (1,239,000) [1,225,000]  +14,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 496,400 (490,116) [485,507] +6,284
FP   329,825 (320,775) [316,450]  +9,050

A slow down in FT's growth lower upload numbers or tougher reviewing?
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on July 30, 2007, 03:58
Another Monday another image count

SS 2,150,034 [2,117,242] (2,083,736)   +32,792
FT   2,146,149 [2,109,741] (2,072,063)   +36,408
IS  1,960,593 [1,931,000] (1,911,042)   +29,593

DT  1,534,254 [1,511,911 (1,488,389)   +22,343
BigStock 1,267,000 [1,253,000] (1,239,000)   +14,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 502,611 [496,400] (490,116)  +6,211
FP   337,425 [329,825] (320,775)  +7,600
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: CJPhoto on July 30, 2007, 08:11
So FT should be the biggest again next week?? Or at least the week after.

Are people still disputing their numbers or do they appear correct after the big drop that came with v2?
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: sharpshot on July 30, 2007, 10:54
I am sure they are still counting all the rejected images.  A lot of people haven't been uploading to them recently, as the V2 still has problems, so I can't see how they can have all those uploads, unless they count all the rejected images as well.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on August 06, 2007, 04:24
SS 2,182,031 (2,150,034) [2,117,242]   +31,997
FT   2,179,890 (2,146,149) [2,109,741]    +33,741
IS  1,984,850 (1,960,593) [1,931,000]   +24,257

DT  1,550,397 (1,534,254) [1,511,911]   +16,143
BigStock 1,284,000 (1,267,000) [1,253,000]  +17,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 509,241 (502,611) [496,400] +6,630
FP   343,300 (337,425) [329,825]  +5,875

SS still in the lead but not by much.

IS to join the 2 million club this week
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on August 13, 2007, 03:37
FT at number one again

FT   2,212,036 [2,179,890] (2,146,149)   +32,146
SS 2,209,830 [2,182,031] (2,150,034)   +27,799
IS  2,012,367 [1,984,850] (1,960,593)   +27,517

DT  1,570,626 [1,550,397] (1,534,254)   +20,229
BigStock 1,299,000 [1,284,000] (1,267,000)   +15,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 515,625 [509,241] (502,611)  +6,384
FP   349,200 [343,300] (337,425)   +5,900
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on August 20, 2007, 02:06
This weeks numbers

SS 2,241,063 (2,209,830) [2,182,031]   +31,233
FT   2,239,929 (2,212,036) [2,179,890]    +27,893
IS  2,046,548 (2,012,367) [1,984,850]    +34,181

DT  1,592,218 (1,570,626) [1,550,397]    +21,592
BigStock 1,313,000 (1,299,000) [1,284,000]    +14,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++

CanStockPhoto 521,223 (515,625) [509,241]  +5,598
FP   356,050 (349,200) [343,300]    +6,850

SS back at number #1  ???

Its almost iPOD time at DT again
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: hatman12 on August 20, 2007, 15:37
Perhaps Steve-Oh could help fill in the recent numbers for StockXpert.......
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on August 27, 2007, 06:39
FT   2,281,040 [2,239,929] (2,212,036)    +41,111 #
SS 2,272,589 [2,241,063] (2,209,830)   +31,526

IS  2,076,625 [2,046,548] (2,012,367)     +30,077

DT  1,623,000 [1,592,218] (1,570,626)    +30,782 *
BigStock 1,325,000 [1,313,000] (1,299,000)    +12,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 569,397++ ??

CanStockPhoto 525,092 [521,223] (515,625)   +3,869
FP   363,375 [356,050] (349,200)   +7,325

# FT at number 1 again looks like uploader confidence has returned

* a big jump for DT
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on September 03, 2007, 03:25
Another week another image count

FT  2,318,778 (2,281,040) [2,239,929]    +37,738
SS 2,294,590 (2,272,589) [2,241,063]    +22,001

IS  2,096,000 (2,076,625) [2,046,548]     +19,375

DT 1,647,687 (1,623,000) [1,592,218]  +24,687
BigStock 1,343,000 (1,325,000) [1,313,000]     +18,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert ?????

CanStockPhoto 529,587 (525,092) [521,223]    +4,495
FP   369,925 (363,375) [356,050]   +6,550
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on September 03, 2007, 07:10
StockXpert now has > 790,000 images...
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on September 10, 2007, 04:11
FT  2,353,375 [2,318,778] (2,281,040)    +34,597
SS 2,329,523 [2,294,590] (2,272,589)     +34,933

IS  2,117,194 [2,096,000] (2,076,625)     +21,194

DT 1,675,817 [1,647,687] (1,623,000)  +28,130 #
BigStock 1,361,000 [1,343,000] (1,325,000)     +18,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 790,000 ++

CanStockPhoto 534,524 [529,587] (525,092)   +4,937
FP   376,300 [369,925] (363,375)   +6,375

# almost iPOD time again at DT
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on September 17, 2007, 03:14
FT  2,379,932 (2,353,375) [2,318,778]    +26,557
SS 2,363,552 (2,329,523) [2,294,590]    +34,029

IS  2,138,004 (2,117,194) [2,096,000]    +20,810

DT 1,701,188 (1,675,817) [1,647,687]  +25,371
BigStock 1,376,000 (1,361,000) [1,343,000] +15,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 790,000 ++

CanStockPhoto 539,836 (534,524) [529,587]   +5,312
FP   383,200 (376,300) [369,925]   +6,900
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on September 23, 2007, 12:54
This weeks image count a bit early as tomorrow I will be on a train to Venice

FT  2,398,281 [2,379,932] (2,353,375) +18,349 #
SS 2,396,223 [2,363,552] (2,329,523) +32,671

IS  2,166,000[2,138,004] (2,117,194) +27,996

DT 1,728,695 [1,701,188] (1,675,817) +27,507
BigStock 1,393,000[1,376,000] (1,361,000) +17,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 790,000 ++

CanStockPhoto 544,124 [539,836] (534,524)  +4,288
FP   389,250 [383,200] (376,300) +6,050

# a slow week
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on October 01, 2007, 04:56
FT  2,442,201 (2,398,281) [2,379,932]  +43,920
SS 2,426,105 (2,396,223) [2,363,552] +29,882

IS  2,197,786 (2,166,000) [2,138,004]  +31,786

DT   1,763,758 (1,728,695) [1,701,188]  +35,063 *
BigStock 1,410,000 (1,393,000) [1,376,000]  +17,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 790,000 +?

CanStockPhoto 549,994 (544,124) [539,836]   +5,870
FP   396,950 (389,250) [383,200]  +7,700

* a big increase another iPod in a week or so
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: leaf on October 01, 2007, 05:11
wow, the numbers are really growing fast.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on October 08, 2007, 04:10
FT 2,474,032 [2,442,201] (2,398,281) +31,831
SS 2,451,662 [2,426,105] (2,396,223) +25,557

IS  2,226,772 [2,197,786] (2,166,000) +28,986

DT   1,791,402 [1,763,758] (1,728,695) +27,644 #
BigStock 1,434,000 [1,410,000] (1,393,000) +24,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 790,000 +?

CanStockPhoto 555,290 [549,994] (544,124)   +5,296
FP   403,025 [396,950] (389,250)   +6,075

# its iPOD time again

Very similar growth this week for the top five sites
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on October 15, 2007, 06:08
FT 2,509,798 (2,474,032) [2,442,201]  +35,766
SS 2,486,882 (2,451,662) [2,426,105] +35,220

IS  2,257,000 (2,226,772) [2,197,786]  +30,228

DT   1,826,714 (1,791,402) [1,763,758]  +35,312
BigStock 1,446,000 (1,434,000) [1,410,000]  +12,000
 
123 1,000,000+
StockXpert 790,000 +?

CanStockPhoto 563,967 (555,290) [549,994]  +8,677
FP   409,950 (403,025) [396,950]    +6,925

A bit of a slow week for BigStock. The top four very similar growth, I wonder if DT will have a special prize for the two millionth image in about 5 weeks
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: hatman12 on October 15, 2007, 14:52
Would be good to somehow get an updated figure for StockXpert.  Since August their image ID numbers have gone up by more than a million - if correct, that's over a million submissions in two months (and explains the problems with the review process).

Perhaps Steve could give us an updated number if he reads this.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: mwp1969 on November 26, 2007, 23:29
Is this thread still active?

FYI: Currently active on BigStock and DT with approvals pending (forever) on FT, 123rf. I'm on my third attempt to get onto IS and awaiting my 2nd attempt to get onto SS.

I wonder who gains the most new contributors per week?

Mark
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: hatman12 on November 27, 2007, 02:21
Good to see you here Mark.

This thread is usually maintained by Fintastique who is presently on an extended vacation of some sort.........
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: hatman12 on November 27, 2007, 19:28
123RF now appear to have 1.6 million images.

I'm pleased with progress at 123RF (in a modest way) - they do seem to be developing their business and attracting customers.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: vphoto on November 27, 2007, 19:36
They also attract contributers. I have stopped uploading to LO, SV and FP, but still uploading to 123RF, i feel they have a future. SV will make it too, eventually, but now it is a drag to upload to them without FTP.

vphoto
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: MicrostockExp on November 27, 2007, 19:45
I am pretty happy also about the progress of 123rf fairly constants. On teh other hand no results with CanStockPhoto and BigStock
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on December 07, 2007, 07:03
Extended vacation I wish, failed business adventure would be a more accurate description of the time since my last post in London. With the Alamy fiasco and all the micros being so picky about travel pictures these days.

If there is interest I will restart the counting on the 10th of December
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: mwp1969 on December 08, 2007, 23:58
I would like to see the updates :)

Hatman good to see your a regular on this site as well !

Mark
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on December 10, 2007, 07:35
numbers in brackets from 15th October 8 weeks ago.

Looks like IS will be pushed back to #4 in terms of portfolio size eventually

FT 2,802,024 [2,509,798] +292,226 [36,528/week]
SS 2,770,660 [2,486,882] +283,778 [35,472/week]
IS 2,465,000 [2,257,000] +208,000 [26,000/week]
DT 2,049,583 [1,826,714] +222,869 [27,859/week]

BS 1,587,000 [1,446,000] +141,000 [17,625/week]
123 1,500,000+ [1,000,000]

StockXpert ????
CanStockPhoto 607,654 [563,967] +43,687 [5461/week] *
FP 454,025 [403,025] +51,000 [6,375/week]

* so close to another payout then I am going to close this account

Just gave my microstock guide a long overdue update
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Pixart on December 10, 2007, 15:23
Thanks fintastique.  You know, I've never really paid this thread much attention before and I'm quite surprized to see that IS doesn't have the largest library.   

If they would just accept a few more from me now and then, they would have a chance to catch up. ;)
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: mwp1969 on December 10, 2007, 15:56
No doubt Pixart. I think I'm on my 5th application with IS just to try and get started with them ... all of my applications have been with images that have been approved by DT, BigStock and Fotolia ...

Mark
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on December 17, 2007, 05:49
FT 2,836,805 (2,802,024) [2,509,798]  +34,781
SS 2,799,138 (2,770,660) [2,486,882]  +28,478
IS 2,493,301 (2,465,000) [2,257,000]  +28,301
DT 2,107,545 (2,049,583) [1,826,714]  +57,962 *

BS 1,610,000 (1,587,000) [1,446,000]  +23,000
123 1,500,000+ [1,000,000]

StockXpert ?????????????????
CanStockPhoto 612,953 (607,654) [563,967] +5,299
FP 458,725 (454,025) [403,025] +4,700

* watch out iStock!!
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: GeoPappas on December 21, 2007, 11:33
I just got an email from StockXpert that stated that they hit the 1 million image mark.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on December 31, 2007, 09:50
New Year's eve figures and Christmas eve in () 17th December []
slower growth in the portfolios as the reviewers and uploaders take a break

FT 2,888,263 (2,867,493) [2,836,805] +20,770
SS 2,849,017 (2,830,076) [2,799,138] +18,941
IS  2,531,000 (2,519,000) [2,493,301] +12,000
DT  2,149,825 (2,140,108) [2,107,545] +9,717

BS  1,652,000  (1,633,000) [1,610,000] +19,000 *
123 1,500,000+

StockXpert 1,000,000 + #
CanStockPhoto  622,597 (618,890) [612,953]   +3,707
FP  469,275 (465,325) [458,725]  +3,950

* I presume the reviewers at BigStock decided to skip their holidays unlike most other sites
# StockXpert join the 1 million club no prizes though

Hey all you guests please read my microstock guide see link in my signature
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on January 14, 2008, 05:59
Two weeks worth of numbers, I thought I would try a new way of presenting the data, I was getting bored using a calculator.   

(http://www.fintastique.com/stats140108.jpg)

a new iPod is imminent at DT for the 2.2 millionth image

123 at 1.5 million +
StockXpert at 1 million +
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: CCK on January 14, 2008, 07:02
Good, I prefer this new method.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on December 11, 2008, 11:14
A forgotten post of mine which I used to update weekly listing how many images each site has in its portfolio (I have modified the original post to avoid more confusion)


how have things changed in the last 11 months

(http://www.fintastique.com/HMI111208.jpg)

Istock is pushed back in 4th place and DT surges ahead look out FT

I was updating my microstock guide mainly FT new rankings, so I thought I would resurrect this thread I will try to update it monthly in future.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: AVAVA on December 11, 2008, 11:43
WOW! Fintastique,

 This list you put together or found is excellent, thank you so much for the effort. It truly shows a trend that has taken place over the past year. This is great news to photogrpahers. The more even all these guys are in sales the strength of Micro continues to grow and so do our options. You can see why Istock is restructuring their pricing it is all there in numbers. Thanks for this input I see I have to upload my collection to another site that I didn't realize had so much traffic. Your one post will increase my sales by a good margin. ;D

Thanks again,
Best,
AVAVA
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: sharply_done on December 11, 2008, 12:06
...
Thanks for this input I see I have to upload my collection to another site that I didn't realize had so much traffic. Your one post will increase my sales by a good margin. ;D
...

AVAVA - I'm under the the impression you think this shows sales. These are number of images online, not number of images licensed.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: anaire on December 11, 2008, 12:26
Steve - Fintastique,
I was actually looking for a way to send you a message. I'm going to take advantage of this topic and use it to say thank you for all your efforts!
My name is Anna and I work for a small photo studio and design company in Dublin.
I started reading your blog about a year ago.
Checked in every week or so, to see if you added anything new.
Among many, many other useful hints and tips it was your blog that actually gave me the address for this forum.
You told me to wait before applying to Shutterstock. Until I had at least some images up and running with companies like Fotolia, DT and IStock.
I did that.
And in a way it is your merit that I got in the first time with 10 out of ten.
In return I'm going to buy a few more of your images.
Because I'm grateful and because they're beautiful!
Thank you!
All the best.

PS I keep on recommending your blog to everyone interested. It is well worth the read.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: AVAVA on December 11, 2008, 13:45
Thanks Sharply,

 You are correct. I misread the post. I will take a second look and see how I can use this data. One thing it does show is the growth of imagery is still being spread evenly across all agencies and I think that is still a strong sign for the photographers but not nearly what I thought the data was. I still want to thank the poster for offering such helpful info.

Best,
AVAVA
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: fintastique on December 12, 2008, 06:54
anaire (Anna)

Thanks for the public thank you

the "blog" is linked under my signature as microstock guide lots of comparison tables sorry I never added new sites as I never signed up
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Phil on December 13, 2008, 20:48
ss added 2.4 mill images in 11 months, wow.

throw in say half? of IS being exclusive say 700k
+ a scattering of exclusive images elsewhere not on ss, say another 100k

over 3 million images hitting microstock in just under a year, pretty mindblowing imo.

 
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: sharpshot on December 14, 2008, 04:19
There is still a long way to go before they catch up with alamy who currently have 14.3 million images online.  I think the other micro sites will probably follow istock now and split their images in to smaller collections.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: lagereek on December 14, 2008, 07:50
Quantity does not mean quality! on the contrary, many times quantity render loads of rubbish and irrelevant material. I would say out of Alamys and IS totals, you might get, what? around 25% of professional quality, no more.
Bazillions of dilletants pick up DSLRs and all of a sudden theyre Pros, nothing wrong with that. Whats wrong is that most Micros seem to accept into their files whatever is thrown at them, as if its a big deal.
Theres no big deal in having millions of shots, flaunting around the files.
Big deal lies in that a buyer with the twist of a finger and within seconds find quality and highly relevant material.
That results in a good name, PR, trust and known as dependable. A good service.
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: shank_ali on December 27, 2008, 17:13
Quantity does not mean quality! on the contrary, many times quantity render loads of rubbish and irrelevant material. I would say out of Alamys and IS totals, you might get, what? around 25% of professional quality, no more.
Bazillions of dilletants pick up DSLRs and all of a sudden theyre Pros, nothing wrong with that. Whats wrong is that most Micros seem to accept into their files whatever is thrown at them, as if its a big deal.
Theres no big deal in having millions of shots, flaunting around the files.
Big deal lies in that a buyer with the twist of a finger and within seconds find quality and highly relevant material.
That results in a good name, PR, trust and known as dependable. A good service.
I keep reading your words and you sound very bitter for some reason.I wont be reading anymore tyvm.btw i pick up a few downloads now and then and will never call myself a pro or want to as the thought of taking photos full time as a job makes me yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Title: Re: How many images
Post by: Tuilay on December 28, 2008, 20:03

Quantity does not mean quality! on the contrary, many times quantity render loads of rubbish and irrelevant material. I would say out of Alamys and IS totals, you might get, what? around 25% of professional quality, no more.

Good point lagereek.
Alamy has around 75% crap like you said, but we have to remember those are mostly old stuff when they first started. Lots of horrible travel photos with no model release, IP without PR,etc.
I think they would do themselves good but getting rid of those sh##load , as they don't do Alamy any good to keep them.
Yes, less is more. Good point , lagereek.