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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2016, 11:22 »
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great idea I will ask Shutterstock for a pay rise


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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2016, 11:27 »
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I cannot change the company policy. I can either agree or disagree like in any other business. If I am an employee and dont like my company, I better quit. If I am self employed and my customer does not pay me what I want, I better look for another opportunity.

To all posters in this thread:

If Josephine believes that Innovation and creating new and better ideas has a value of .02 cents. That investing in Illustrator and being perfect in it has a value of .02 cents, then leave her to it.

To Josephine:

If you believe everyone else should simply be happy with whatever we get or quit, please stop reading threads about petitions and raises. Leave us to our belief that quality work should get fair pay.

« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2016, 11:29 »
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great idea I will ask Shutterstock for a pay rise
You've heard of unions I guess? Doing a petition is a bit similar. I'm not saying it will work but not everyone believes they just have to suck up whatever is given to them.

« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2016, 11:37 »
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I cannot change the company policy. I can either agree or disagree like in any other business. If I am an employee and dont like my company, I better quit. If I am self employed and my customer does not pay me what I want, I better look for another opportunity.
There have been many times in the past when enough of us have complained and we have changed a company policy.  Ignoring problems would of made us a lot worse off and sometimes it also benefits a site, if we see problems that they haven't thought of.

« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2016, 11:40 »
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dont forget: "fair pay" depends on where you live.
Greetings from Zimbabwe

« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2016, 11:41 »
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I cannot change the company policy. I can either agree or disagree like in any other business. If I am an employee and dont like my company, I better quit. If I am self employed and my customer does not pay me what I want, I better look for another opportunity.
There have been many times in the past when enough of us have complained and we have changed a company policy.  Ignoring problems would of made us a lot worse off and sometimes it also benefits a site, if we see problems that they haven't thought of.
Indeed I'm sure many or even most of us have suggested a change to our employer that they have accepted. The idea you just leave if you don't like something is simplistic in the extreme.

« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2016, 11:54 »
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dont forget: "fair pay" depends on where you live.
Greetings from Zimbabwe
Now I understand.  If you come from a country that has had a $100 trillion banknote microstock sites must seem amazing.

« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2016, 11:59 »
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thank you sharpshot, you are a real smart guy.

Shelma1

« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2016, 12:01 »
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Still, even if you're from Zimbabwe, why would you NOT want to make more money? Why would you be Ok with your earnings dropping? Weird.

Picone

« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2016, 12:23 »
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This forum has become a dangerous place. Ruled by very tough and nervous girls Shelma and Cathyslife. I'm afraid to post anything anymore  ;)

« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2016, 12:24 »
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dont forget: "fair pay" depends on where you live.
Greetings from Zimbabwe
Now I understand.  If you come from a country that has had a $100 trillion banknote microstock sites must seem amazing.
And when you come from a country where being in a union will get you gunned down in the street it also makes you more tolerant of being treated badly by companies.

Shelma1

« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2016, 12:55 »
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This forum has become a dangerous place. Ruled by very tough and nervous girls Shelma and Cathyslife. I'm afraid to post anything anymore  ;)

I'm not nervous. ;)

« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2016, 13:25 »
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This forum has become a dangerous place. Ruled by very tough and nervous girls Shelma and Cathyslife. I'm afraid to post anything anymore  ;)

I'm not nervous. ;)

Me neither. What is funny is I haven't even posted in this thread!  ::)
« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 13:28 by cathyslife »

Picone

« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2016, 13:27 »
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This forum has become a dangerous place. Ruled by very tough and nervous girls Shelma and Cathyslife. I'm afraid to post anything anymore  ;)

I'm not nervous. ;)
Molesting Zimbabweans, oh, yes, you are :D

« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2016, 13:30 »
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This forum has become a dangerous place. Ruled by very tough and nervous girls Shelma and Cathyslife. I'm afraid to post anything anymore  ;)

I'm not nervous. ;)
Molesting Zimbabweans, oh, yes, you are :D

Yeah, OK, now I see. I think it's funny when someone is doing exactly the same thing they are accusing someone else of doing.  ::)
« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 14:59 by cathyslife »

« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2016, 13:39 »
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dont forget: "fair pay" depends on where you live.
Greetings from Zimbabwe

Back on topic...you are correct. A good portion of contributors, though, come from the United States, with a higher cost of living. If petitions, etc. get higher royalties, why would you oppose that? I don't think anyone is arguing that good quality is always the goal, but providing good quality also means getting fair pay according to one's standard of living.

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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2016, 13:42 »
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Christatron on a bike, this escalated quickly! Josephine... you're missing the point again. It doesn't matter where you're from, or what currency you use... 5 or 10% less or 5 or 10% more means exactly the same for everyone, no matter where they live.

But still, let us know how you get on when you ask Shutterstock for a raise, hopefully it goes well. If you're successful then I'm sure many others will follow. They will build statues and sing songs of your brilliance for many years to come.

« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2016, 13:47 »
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Cathy, do you believe in your heart, that you will succeed in getting more money by putting your signature under a petition? Are you not afraid that you get blacklisted when you do so?

« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2016, 14:01 »
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Cathy, do you believe in your heart, that you will succeed in getting more money by putting your signature under a petition? Are you not afraid that you get blacklisted when you do so?

Sounds like you are suggesting that Shutterstock is a vindictive organisation, hope you are wrong they might not like being called out on a public forum.

Shelma1

« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2016, 14:06 »
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Almost 1,200 people have signed that petition, and I haven't heard of anyone being blacklisted. I'd be the first, since they know who wrote it and talked to me on the phone. Sales for me on SS are fine this month.

« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2016, 14:25 »
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...but providing good quality also means getting fair pay according to one's standard of living.

Actually no! Nobody is entitled to a certain "standard of living", nor to a higher pay because of that.
A fair pay is what the two contracting parties have free-willingly agreed to. Therefore a "fair pay" is always the market price.
If you don't consider it fair, you should be free to walk away from the contract you don't like. If enough people walk away, then the market price will be adjusted, back to the level the market will consider "fair".
« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 14:31 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2016, 14:41 »
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This forum has become a dangerous place. Ruled by very tough and nervous girls Shelma and Cathyslife. I'm afraid to post anything anymore  ;)

What a messed up comment.  If you are so terrified of a couple of smart women speaking their mind, you should want a pay increase to cover costs of the therapy you need.

« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2016, 14:45 »
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zero talent, I like your point of you.
There is only one little problem, what about if there is half a million contributors around the world you expect to walk away. Will they?

« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2016, 14:52 »
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Cathy, do you believe in your heart, that you will succeed in getting more money by putting your signature under a petition? Are you not afraid that you get blacklisted when you do so?

Answer to the first question...I have no clue, but if it is a cause I believe in, I am willing to give it a shot. It doesn't hurt anything to try. Answer to the second question...no, I am not afraid. I have been in microstock since 2004, using my real name the whole time. When I was uploading, my sales were increasing. When I stopped uploading, they dropped, which makes perfect sense. I still make payouts from the two sites I contribute to, so no. I don't ever believe that the things I say are so heinous as to justify any "blacklisting". Guess i am just not as paranoid as some here.

« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2016, 14:57 »
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zero talent, I like your point of you.
There is only one little problem, what about if there is half a million contributors around the world you expect to walk away. Will they?

If they don't, it means they consider $0.02 "fair", therefore it is the new market price, like it or not.

But I'm confident a critical mass of contributors will pull out their ports or stop uploading new stuff in order to reject these insulting IS royalty proposals.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 16:11 by Zero Talent »


 

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