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« on: April 21, 2009, 01:40 »
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G'day

My name is Phill,
I am an Australian guy Currently living in Denmark,within the next 3-4 months I am moving to New Zealand.
I have experience uploading to DT,SS,123RF,BigStock and FOT
I would like to offer you my service as a Microstock Submission Editor.
Which entails attaching MR's ,choosing categories,I also do a 5 word priority sorting of keywords on FOT
ALL Keywords, Titles, and Descriptions must be in the iptc metadata.
I realize that the only realistic way for this to work would be for Us to sign a nondisclosure agreement,
As I would log into your account submit your files and log out.
I will provide a copy of my Passport as Proof of who I am.
I use Skype to keep in contact.
 I Prefer to work contract as I am a very hard and fastidious worker.
My experience tells me that my employers prefer me working contract when they see the results.
For serious persons interested I am more than Happy to talk further about prices,contracts,etc over skype,or email

                               



                              Attached is a Link to my resume,
                              So take a look if I have caught your interest
                              Kind regards Phill
                     
   https://docs.google.com/Presentation?docid=ddb6ztgp_32dgsxhrdz&hl=en_GB

« Last Edit: April 21, 2009, 17:16 by FreedomImage »


« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 07:10 »
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Its Nice to see there are so many views :-)

« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 07:32 »
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No one who is serious would do this

No one who isn't serious is going to pay you to upload their photos

No one will give you their account and password

I don't see where you are going with this

« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 07:40 »
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My first thought was that it would mean giving a stranger my passwords, and access to my earnings on the sites. I think its great that you are looking for original ways to earn money, but you need to think this through a bit more.

« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 08:03 »
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Oh and I forgot to write that I have Yuri Arcurs as a reference
 I thank you for you for saying whats on your mind I will take note :-)
« Last Edit: April 21, 2009, 08:04 by FreedomImage »

grp_photo

« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 08:12 »
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This is a good service idea! I think bigger ones can be interested in your service. And as more references you have more people will trust you.

« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 08:16 »
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I was thinking I could help small people too.I got the idea from a fellow microstocker.
I will be doing his in a few months too maybe

« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 08:19 »
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I think the idea is not so bad. Probably you won't find many of us needing your service, but maybe few of them could contact you, especially those who submit hundreds of images per week. If both sides sign a contract, than both sides should trust to each other.

« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 08:20 »
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Exactly Like a non disclosure document :-)

grp_photo

« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 08:23 »
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I think to "working on a contract" is hard to realize for the smaller ones. A service where i can send in my pictures and i would be charged per image/session and complexity would be much more appealing, some kind of security for the passwords should be also provided (sending copy of your passport to your customers etc.)

« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 08:33 »
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I would want a contract and  a non disclosure agreement and of course I would be willing to provide a copy of MY passport.
I would only do the images on a piece rate, For example one image for 30c .But of course there are a lot of factors involved.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2009, 15:27 by FreedomImage »

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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2009, 08:37 »
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I think it is basically a good idea.

It is just a matter of the details, how much does the service cost, what is included and the like...

Keep us informed, I would be interested.

« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2009, 08:46 »
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Well in regards to pricing and the like It all depends on the stock site.
All work will be on a contract(piece)rate.
If someone is seriously interested we can talk about that outside of the forums :-)
I am very flexible and also thinking about keywording as well
« Last Edit: April 21, 2009, 08:49 by FreedomImage »

« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2009, 11:04 »
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Good idea, it might be useful for bug volume submittters. Good luck< i hope it works out for you!

« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2009, 11:07 »
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Thank you Goldenangel,
I must add that because it is a piece rate it would also be a good idea for small people as well.

« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 11:22 »
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I think this is a great idea. The biggest thing slowing me down is the submitting process. I have hundreds of images waiting, but I run a design studio as a 'real job' and getting my submissions up is the biggest hurdle. I would consider doing this.

For people like me that are perpetually busy with work, and bill by the hour - taking a few hours out to submit photos every week costs me a few hours at my billable hourly rate, because I could be spending that time on clients and getting paid for it. The more I think about this, the more it makes sense.

« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2009, 11:59 »
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I'm glad everyone thinks its a great idea to give up passwords and usernames to someone who has a reference or two.  Who knew it could be so easy

« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2009, 12:02 »
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I'm glad everyone thinks its a great idea to give up passwords and usernames to someone who has a reference or two.  Who knew it could be so easy





This is the NON-Disclosure Document I have been talking about :-)
 
 http://www.fastdue.com/Agreement.aspx?t=NON-DISCLOSURE%20AGREEMENT

And the consulting contract

http://www.fastdue.com/Agreement.aspx?t=CONSULTING%20AGREEMENT
« Last Edit: April 21, 2009, 12:08 by FreedomImage »

« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2009, 13:03 »
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And contracts are so effective if I get ripped off and the other party runs off to a country with a) no laws, b) not a care for contract law, or c) just somwhere you cannot be found, what is that contract worth?

This is a horrible idea and someone is too lazy to upload their own photos, perhaps you should find some other way to make money.

People are complaining they dont' make enough money per download.  Add to it overhead of paying someone else to upload, where do you get to keep the money you earn in this business?

RT


« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2009, 15:03 »
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I wouldnt want a contract per say but more a non disclosure agreement and a copy of passport is also a good idea.

You want a copy of the persons passport !!

« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2009, 15:23 »
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I wouldnt want a contract per say but more a non disclosure agreement and a copy of passport is also a good idea.

You want a copy of the persons passport !!

This is the dumbest sequence of ideas I've seen in a while.  First you want passwords, and access, now you want passports?  Who are you? and why are there people gullible enough to give you what you ask?

« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2009, 15:30 »
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RT I have corrected my post sorry for the mistake I was fairly busy when I wrote that.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2009, 15:37 by FreedomImage »

Xalanx

« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2009, 15:33 »
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I guess you dont have better things to do with your time then what you are doing in this post Ichiro 17

Play nice, all people here are potential clients to you... I would try and convince Ichiro that my intentions are benign.

 :D

« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2009, 15:41 »
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In reply to Ichiro 17 I would like to suggest to you that my intentions were purely to offer some of the busy people a helping hand to get one of the most time consuming microstock jobs out of the way. I apologize for any grievance I have caused

RT


« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2009, 15:52 »
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RT I have corrected my post sorry for the mistake I was fairly busy when I wrote that.

That's OK we all make mistakes, but this does raise a concern with me:

For me personally the whole uploading process accounts for a large proportion of my time, time that I could spend better doing other things running my business, so a service such as the one you've hinted at ( you'll see what I mean in a minute) is something that would be of interest to me. BUT my advice to you would be that you go off and work on a better proposal package, when I target a new client I go in and offer them the complete package in detail, explaining exactly what I offfer and what they'll get for their money, so far having read all of this thread I'm still not sure how you're going to operate.
For instance how do I get my images to you in order for you to upload them for me, and how exactly would it be a quicker and more efficient way than me using FTP to upload them to all the sites myself as I'm currently doing.
A second and even more concerning part is that you're offering keywording services, I mean you no offense but clearly English is not your primary language, judging by your few posts here I can say that at present there's no way I would trust what I consider the most important part of the upload process to you.

I'm all in favour of anybody starting a business, especially if that business is one that could save me time and ultimately increase my workflow, however I'm not one to give my money away.

Good luck in your venture.

« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2009, 16:51 »
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RT- Thankyou for pointing out the specifics that I have missed.I wouldn't be able to provide the full service as of yet because I am in the process of moving to New Zealand.But It is definitely in the pipeline.I am thinking of including keywording in the future service.
And I also have to learn to upload to Stock.I don't have an account there at the moment
My first language is actually Australian,So no offence taken at all :-)
I have to agree with you I don't speak good English (more Australian).
I guess all this time in Denmark speaking danish has not improved my limited English:-)
You are more than welcome to check my titles/ category's/keywords on my own images.
Thanks again

« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2009, 16:55 »
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I guess you dont have better things to do with your time then what you are doing in this post Ichiro 17

Play nice, all people here are potential clients to you... I would try and convince Ichiro that my intentions are benign.

 :D

I'm going exclusive, so my workflow will be fairly smooth.  And I was at work (day job) so I didn't have much to do.  Thats why I've been more active.  I prefer to view from a distance in most posts.

Given RT's lovely post, I'm just going to add that I'm the type of person that will not give up the keywording even though its a horrible task because it involves access to my personal information.  I don't want to give that away.  If you find someone willing, thats great, but I'm in the group of people that will never look for such a service.  If I was, I would go out and hire a team.  Thats my opinion, and I wish you well.

« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2009, 16:58 »
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Thats fine Ichiro 17 its good to see a bit of life in this forum :-) Have a nice day/night.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2009, 17:01 by FreedomImage »

« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2009, 19:53 »
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Why restrict yourself to uploading only? If you could include doing the photography for me too, at 30c a pop for each uploaded image, then I might be interested ;-)

Since when did 'Australian' become a language anyway? I'm even more concerned about your ability to actually do the job now. I'd have thought command of English to native-Degree standard (including good knowledge of American variables) would be an absolute prerequisite of offering this service.

As an Englishman who has visited the US many times over the last 20-odd years I'm still regularly learning US variables. For example my images of 'lasagne' (how the Europeans spell it) never sold particularly well until I started including the US version of 'lasagna' within the keywords. There are hundreds of such details and it is absolutely essential to know the significant ones if you are to maximise sales.

« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2009, 20:05 »
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It does sound a bit odd there are no actual details in the offer.  Hey, I'll upload your stuff for some unknown fee, somehow, and Yuri says it's cool.

« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2009, 01:52 »
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Hello there  - quick question, would a client send the pics on a CD to you, say 250 at a time? On there would have to be all model release details and depending what they are shooting info on what the pic is if it a particular flower, building, beach etc..

You'd then have to caption the lot in full and upload to maybe eight sites,  probably with upload restrictions as is Istock etc depending on your clients acceptance rate / canister level.

All this for say 30 cents a picture?

Would a slightly better idea be that a client uploaded all of ther own images to the sites by FTP. They send you an email it's all finished, and you log in to all their accounts and with copy and paste finish off the captioning there. Slightly unweildy, but it would probably be just as quick.

Finally, skirting over the login details, don't some sites alredy offer this kind of service?

Good luck with it



« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2009, 02:52 »
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Hello there  - quick question, would a client send the pics on a CD to you, say 250 at a time? On there would have to be all model release details and depending what they are shooting info on what the pic is if it a particular flower, building, beach etc..

You'd then have to caption the lot in full and upload to maybe eight sites,  probably with upload restrictions as is Istock etc depending on your clients acceptance rate / canister level.

All this for say 30 cents a picture?

Would a slightly better idea be that a client uploaded all of ther own images to the sites by FTP. They send you an email it's all finished, and you log in to all their accounts and with copy and paste finish off the captioning there. Slightly unweildy, but it would probably be just as quick.

Finally, skirting over the login details, don't some sites alredy offer this kind of service?

Good luck with it




Yes I would much prefer your second option, Reasons being that The pictures are then safely on the site and cant get lost in the mail etc :-)

As far as I know the only site that has anything similar is DT with its keymaster program.but correct me if I am wrong.
And yes around that price depending on site.I have not done Istock before and will stay clear of that until I have an account and am confident with the keywording. Contact me out of this post to talk further details :-)
regards Phill

« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2009, 03:07 »
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It does sound a bit odd there are no actual details in the offer.  Hey, I'll upload your stuff for some unknown fee, somehow, and Yuri says it's cool.

I have not said anywhere that Yuri endorses this I only said I had him as a reference :-)

« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2009, 03:52 »
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I do not see it as risky as it seems first. Just think on it! The copy of passport is one thing but... if you do not trust him, you can still withdraw your earnings every week. So in the worst case scenario he is 'stealing' one week but not more. But it is still very unlikely he can do it. On most sites there is a pending time from the request until the actual payment, so you have a very good chance to realize the request in time and cancel it. If he ever tries to do this with anyone's account, everyone will be informed here instantly. Ah well, and you can verify his reference by an email to Yuri. :)

I already have assistance in uploading but otherwise I would be interested.

« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2009, 03:57 »
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I do not see it as risky as it seems first. Just think on it! The copy of passport is one thing but... if you do not trust him, you can still withdraw your earnings every week. So in the worst case scenario he is 'stealing' one week but not more. But it is still very unlikely he can do it. On most sites there is a pending time from the request until the actual payment, so you have a very good chance to realize the request in time and cancel it. If he ever tries to do this with anyone's account, everyone will be informed here instantly. Ah well, and you can verify his reference by an email to Yuri. :)

I already have assistance in uploading but otherwise I would be interested.

Thats exactly right NitorPhoto,Anyone who is interested knows how to get Yuri's email :-)
Have a nice day :-)

« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2009, 04:39 »
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You all forget we are giving our full size images. So he will have all our images full size on CD or what ever... I dont give anybody my images, unless they buy them :D

Also, I would NEVER give my account details to someone. It is not that I dont trust him, but I just dont want to think about it, and want to sleep peacefully. Maybe he would never steal from me, but I just dont want to think about it.

« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2009, 05:30 »
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Fully agree with Peter!

I wouldn't really be happy to give somebody else my full-rez pics, even with a signed NDA or contract whatsoever.

Perhaps I am a bit exaggerated but better to play safe...

 ;)

Caz

« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2009, 05:41 »
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What happens if you upload the wrong release with an image from a session with multiple models & releases? Or keyword incorrectly? The image gets rejected because of that, an upload slot is lost and acceptance rate falls. How do you propose to recompense the contributor in that situation?

« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2009, 09:41 »
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If I were to do the submitting for somebody I would happily re do the image if it is MY mistake :-)
I wouldnt be keywording right now as I have said further up.
Also I wouldnt want anything todo with CD's and full rez images I would solely be attaching MR's and assigning catagories
It is all explained in my First post.

Old Hippy

    This user is banned.
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2009, 12:19 »
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i wouldnt trust anonymous people find on the net to manage my pictures.

who's gonna tell you they dont resell your images elsewhere or that they dont sell crops, b&w, etc ?

« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2009, 12:33 »
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i wouldnt trust anonymous people find on the net to manage my pictures.

who's gonna tell you they dont resell your images elsewhere or that they dont sell crops, b&w, etc ?

Well, at least there's one sensible thing you've said today.

lisafx

« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2009, 19:10 »
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Apparently there is no thread on this forum too old, already resolved, or irrelevant to be resurrected by Old Hippy.

It's been a nice trip down memory lane. 

Guess I had better get back to doing my small part to undermine the entire photographic industry (and indeed, civilization itself) now ;D

« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2009, 05:19 »
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i wouldnt trust anonymous people find on the net to manage my pictures.

This from an anonymous newbie  ???

michealo

« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2009, 05:53 »
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Thank you for your kind offer but I don't need anyone to upload my images as a kindly Nigerian gentleman is giving me several million for allowing me to help him move some money around ...

« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2009, 09:05 »
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Apparently there is no thread on this forum too old, already resolved, or irrelevant to be resurrected by Old Hippy.


LOL @

« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2011, 05:51 »
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More info coming here soon :)
No more an anonymous newbie  8)

« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2011, 07:28 »
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More info coming here soon :)
No more an anonymous newbie  8)

As you can see, we all got along fine since 2009.  Thanks though.

« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2011, 07:34 »
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More info coming here soon :)
No more an anonymous newbie  8)

As you can see, we all got along fine since 2009.  Thanks though.

Thats great :)
Thankyou for the fast reply,

« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2012, 11:43 »
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More info coming here soon :)
No more an anonymous newbie  8)
As you can see, we all got along fine since 2009.  Thanks though.
Thats great :)
Thankyou for the fast reply,
You're welcome. How is your Barbie doll trading business going or is it Ninjas now? How is your "team" doing? I have a great business opportunity for you by the way. A very rich guy in Nigeria died recently and
« Last Edit: January 28, 2012, 11:45 by FD »


 

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