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« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2014, 03:12 »
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I wrote to support, and this is their official reply:

1. Don't worry about that. The Download button is not visible for users who own the photo. We had a few cases where users accidentally purchased their own photos so we disabled that.

2. You can upload your photo originally with a watermark. Then you can go to www.500px.com/store and upload an unwatermarked version. This way you can have a preview with a watermark while selling a photo without a watermark.

3. We currently do not support FTP uploads.

Thanks!
« Last Edit: March 10, 2014, 15:22 by stockphotoeurope »


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« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2014, 04:05 »
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is there any hope these guys are going to make a profit ? i would love to see 500px succeeding but i've never heard about decent sales over there, where are the buyers ? as far as we've seen so far they've been good offering a place for photographers and pixel peepers but making serious bucks is quite another story, they're in the typical position where a startup found a VC and got some bucks in the pocket but they seem to be clueless about monetization, how they're any different from the many other established PoD sites ? not to mention PoDs aren't getting rich and some are losing money.


« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2014, 14:10 »
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2. You can upload your photo originally with a watermark. Then you can go to www.500px.com/store and upload an unwatermarked version. This way you can have a preview with a watermark while selling a photo without a watermark.

Ok, but it's a pain to upload 2 times a photo, you should include some watermarks options, the previews are really too large.

« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2014, 11:06 »
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Hey everyone! My name's Alex, I work at 500px. I'm here to answer any questions you've got. I'll start with a few of the common ones I saw in this thread.

How can we afford to switch from 70% to 30% so quickly?
It definitely takes a cut out of our profits, to give the photographers 70%! There's no denying that. But we think it's better to tighten our margins and attract world class photographers. We'll make up the difference in volume, because we have the best photographers in the world selling their work.

How can you contribute your photos?
Just keep uploading to 500px.com, and ensure your Store is enabled. Go to 500px.com/store to do that. Saleable photos must be at least 3000px on their longest edge. We're constantly scraping the site for saleable photos, and sending out invites. We have about 50k photos in our backlog right now, so as soon as we get through those, we'll send more invites. You can email
primephotographers@500px.com to get more info and step by step instructions too. It's an automated response, but has lots of info.

Watermarks?!
You can put watermarks on your 500px.com displayed photos. Simply upload a watermarked photo first. Then go to 500px.com/store to upload a non-watermarked copy, which will be used for sales. We display the non-watermarked photo as the preview in Prime, but our developers are working to add our own watermarks to those photos, which should be ready before the grand opening of Prime. The watermark will have the 500px logo, and the URL to purchase the photo on Prime.

Let me know if there's anything else I can answer for you guys! Thanks!
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 11:23 by 500alexs »

« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2014, 11:22 »
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Hi Alex and thanks for coming to us :)

If I may ask you... I've found info that if client buys print he gets big size of file as well. Is it true? Why he gets digital file with print?
I hope I'm wrong and misunderstood it :)

And one more about download price - do you consider to let artists set their own pricing? If yes, that would be just perfect! For now I opted out digital download option as I feel $2 is low price. As you can see, stock agencies pay more for that size (resolution of 1920x1080px) :)

Oh, and:
"Use the Payments page to keep track of your sales, and request a payout by cheque or to your Paypal account. The minimum payout is $100.00." (in market tour)

"A minimum amount of $60 is required to request the payment by cheque and $50 by Paypal." (fee schedule)

I'm confused :)
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 11:38 by Ariene »

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« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2014, 11:41 »
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Let me know if there's anything else I can answer for you guys! Thanks!

Thanks for coming here to reply to our questions.

There is a general consensus here among contributors that an easy upload process is paramount, especially for new sites. We can overlook the lack of FTP (temporarily) since you have a mass uploader, but the lack of an automated watermark requires too much work: you will never get the full ports from "world class photographers" this way, which is a pity since your 70% offer is generous.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 12:02 by stockphotoeurope »

« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2014, 12:05 »
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Just to be clear, the personal use Market (prints and lower res digital downloads, with personal usage licensees) and Prime (commercial licenses) are separate entities, but happy to help with this too!

Hi Alex and thanks for coming to us :)

If I may ask you... I've found info that if client buys print he gets big size of file as well. Is it true? Why he gets digital file with print?
I hope I'm wrong and misunderstood it :)

And one more about download price - do you consider to let artists set their own pricing? If yes, that would be just perfect! For now I opted out digital download option as I feel $2 is low price. As you can see, stock agencies pay more for that size (resolution of 1920x1080px) :)

We used to, but no longer include a digital file with print sales. The price is $2.99 and we find that's a very reasonable price for a Desktop Wallpaper resolution image. We'll definitely consider letting photogs set their own prices, but no plans to change that right now!

Oh, and:
"Use the Payments page to keep track of your sales, and request a payout by cheque or to your Paypal account. The minimum payout is $100.00." (in market tour)

"A minimum amount of $60 is required to request the payment by cheque and $50 by Paypal." (fee schedule)

I'm confused :)

The minimum payout is now $50. We changed it a few months back, but I guess missed that part! We'll update it soon.

« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2014, 12:06 »
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There is a general consensus here among contributors that an easy upload process is paramount, especially for new sites. We can overlook the lack of FTP (temporarily) since you have a mass uploader, but the lack of an automated watermark requires too much work: you will never get the full ports from "world class photographers" this way, which is a pity since your 70% offer is generous.

I totally agree! Making it easy to add your photos to 500px and enable them in Prime is key. Lots of new stuff coming down the pipe that'll help there. As I mentioned, we will be adding automatic watermarking to 500px Prime.

stockphotoeurope

« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2014, 12:10 »
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There is a general consensus here among contributors that an easy upload process is paramount, especially for new sites. We can overlook the lack of FTP (temporarily) since you have a mass uploader, but the lack of an automated watermark requires too much work: you will never get the full ports from "world class photographers" this way, which is a pity since your 70% offer is generous.

I totally agree! Making it easy to add your photos to 500px and enable them in Prime is key. Lots of new stuff coming down the pipe that'll help there. As I mentioned, we will be adding automatic watermarking to 500px Prime.

Thanks, this is great news. (I noticed just now that you already mentioned that your developers are working on this)

Ron

« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2014, 13:58 »
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Leaf, can you batch up 500Alex?  :) Cheers.

« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2014, 17:24 »
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We're constantly scraping the site for saleable photos, and sending out invites. We have about 50k photos in our backlog right now, so as soon as we get through those, we'll send more invites.

Im sure i'm missing something there...
Invites for what????
Like many others, I've uploaded some pictures and they are on sale, no need invitation for selling photos on 500px, can you explain please?

EDIT: ok, i've read, it's for another site named prime. OK it's by invitation and the way to catch it is to upload photos on 500px...another complicated story.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 17:48 by Smithore »

stockphotoeurope

« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2014, 17:43 »
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EDIT: ok, i've read, it's for another site named prime. OK it's by invitation and the way to catch it is to upload photos on 500px, got it?

Which brings one more question about watermarks, since 500alexs said "we will be adding automatic watermarking to 500px Prime"

I hope watermarks are on the way for the basic market too, not just for prime?

« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2014, 18:00 »
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Yes, i wish too, I don't think i will keep my files there too long time, it's maybe fun to share, to vote and receive comment on photos (well done, great job, awesome, keep on the good work...   ;D) on a site, but we are not uploading for playing such a childish game for years, especially if we have to pay an annual fee.  So Watermark option is needed.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 18:54 by Smithore »

EmberMike

« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2014, 23:56 »
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Don't forget 500px core business is charging photographers an annual fee to host their images on the site, so they should easily be able to afford 70% royalties...

Every company can pay 70%. It's just that few choose to do so.

« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2014, 23:59 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:38 by tickstock »

« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2014, 05:07 »
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Just to be clear, the personal use Market (prints and lower res digital downloads, with personal usage licensees) and Prime (commercial licenses) are separate entities, but happy to help with this too!

Hi Alex and thanks for coming to us :)

If I may ask you... I've found info that if client buys print he gets big size of file as well. Is it true? Why he gets digital file with print?
I hope I'm wrong and misunderstood it :)

And one more about download price - do you consider to let artists set their own pricing? If yes, that would be just perfect! For now I opted out digital download option as I feel $2 is low price. As you can see, stock agencies pay more for that size (resolution of 1920x1080px) :)

We used to, but no longer include a digital file with print sales. The price is $2.99 and we find that's a very reasonable price for a Desktop Wallpaper resolution image. We'll definitely consider letting photogs set their own prices, but no plans to change that right now!

Oh, and:
"Use the Payments page to keep track of your sales, and request a payout by cheque or to your Paypal account. The minimum payout is $100.00." (in market tour)

"A minimum amount of $60 is required to request the payment by cheque and $50 by Paypal." (fee schedule)

I'm confused :)

The minimum payout is now $50. We changed it a few months back, but I guess missed that part! We'll update it soon.


Welcome here Alex.

Ron

« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2014, 05:17 »
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Thanks for adding the Batch Leaf, good to see the verification process working.


The person voting my post down probably misunderstood me.


« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2014, 05:32 »
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Has anyone experience with their existing (not the new Prime) store? Do they sell?
I signed up due to this thread and like the community, but are there sales as well?

« Reply #68 on: March 12, 2014, 07:14 »
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Thanks for adding the Batch Leaf, good to see the verification process working.


The person voting my post down probably misunderstood me.


Probably... I still have no idea what you mean about the "Batch" or what "Batch up" means...

stockphotoeurope

« Reply #69 on: March 12, 2014, 07:47 »
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Thanks for adding the Batch Leaf, good to see the verification process working.


The person voting my post down probably misunderstood me.


Probably... I still have no idea what you mean about the "Batch" or what "Batch up" means...

He means "badge" instead of "batch" probably


« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2014, 08:41 »
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We're constantly scraping the site for saleable photos, and sending out invites. We have about 50k photos in our backlog right now, so as soon as we get through those, we'll send more invites.

Im sure i'm missing something there...
Invites for what????
Like many others, I've uploaded some pictures and they are on sale, no need invitation for selling photos on 500px, can you explain please?

EDIT: ok, i've read, it's for another site named prime. OK it's by invitation and the way to catch it is to upload photos on 500px...another complicated story.

Sorry, by "invites" I meant "requests" to add include your photo in Prime. We are handpicking and sending requests for the photos we'd like to include in the Prime marketplace. To make sure your photo is eligible to be requested, make sure it's enabled for sale in 500px.com/store. Hope that helps!

« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2014, 08:43 »
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EDIT: ok, i've read, it's for another site named prime. OK it's by invitation and the way to catch it is to upload photos on 500px, got it?

Which brings one more question about watermarks, since 500alexs said "we will be adding automatic watermarking to 500px Prime"

I hope watermarks are on the way for the basic market too, not just for prime?

You can already watermark in the regular Store. When you upload your photo to 500px, upload a watermarked copy first. Then go to 500px.com/store to upload a second non-watermarked copy. This non-watermarked copy will only be used for sales (in both the consumer store and Prime). The watermarked image is what we use for display on 500px.com and in the regular Store. Right now we're using the non-watermarked copy for display in Prime, but will be adding our own watermarks to them shortly. We'll definitely consider add these automatic watermarks to images in the regular store too, but for now you're welcome to add your own. Thanks!

Ron

« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2014, 08:55 »
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Thanks for adding the Batch Leaf, good to see the verification process working.


The person voting my post down probably misunderstood me.


Probably... I still have no idea what you mean about the "Batch" or what "Batch up" means...

You give agency representative a verified batch, right? Or what is the word for that? The logo under the user name. I thought that was called a batch.

Ow shoot, I mean badge !!  :) Ugh, sorry.

« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2014, 08:56 »
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Thanks for adding the Batch Leaf, good to see the verification process working.


The person voting my post down probably misunderstood me.


Probably... I still have no idea what you mean about the "Batch" or what "Batch up" means...

You give agency representative a verified batch, right? Or what is the word for that? The logo under the user name. I thought that was called a batch.

Ow shoot, I mean badge !!  :) Ugh, sorry.

ahh yes.  ok - that makes more sense :)

Ron

« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2014, 08:56 »
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Thanks for adding the Batch Leaf, good to see the verification process working.


The person voting my post down probably misunderstood me.


Probably... I still have no idea what you mean about the "Batch" or what "Batch up" means...

He means "badge" instead of "batch" probably
I do ! Completely messed that up.  ;) Thanks.


 

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